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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: four fornicholl on September 07, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
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just been reading about sasa curcic, cant help feeling a little bit sorry for him.
what are peoples views and tales of ex villa players gone tits up
McGrath excluded cos he can do no wrong
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The self-proclaimed intellect, David James, was declared bankrupt a few years ago.
That's pretty good going for the career he had. You can only blame bad advice so far!
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Mike Tindall
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I think of everybody, Gary Charles is about the saddest and worst case. I hope he's got his life sorted now because a few years ago it wasn't looking too clever.
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Clarke Carlisle
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I never understood the whole Sasa Curcic thing. I was really excited when he signed. He fell apart pretty quickly. They didn't earn the money then that players earn now... but it was still enough at that level to secure their future if managed sensibly.
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Mike Tindall
Good shout. I'm sure I read somewhere that Roy Keane gave him a leg-up and he is back in the business now.
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
It certainly does. Really pleased to see Charles has sorted himself out.
For all of Keane's faults, I've always felt there was an underlying decency beneath, and that much of his angst came from having to live and work in a phoney, backstabbing business.
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
Good to hear that Charles is doing much better. Annoyingly, I now have to give Keane some resect for doing something which not many people would.
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
Good on him. Both of them in fact.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
Milne has had it very rough, as he's now dead.
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Lee Hendrie went bankrupt? I think it was bad advice on property deals.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
Milne has had it very rough, as he's now dead.
That's pretty rough.
He'll be in heaven now with Sir Booby Charlton.
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Terrible to hear Robbie Savage yesterday, he was babbling incoherently on the radio, only heard a bit of whatever it was but I assume it was a programme about the permanently bewildered.
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Terrible to hear Robbie Savage yesterday, he was babbling incoherently on the radio, only heard a bit of whatever it was but I assume it was a programme about the permanently bewildered.
Maybe we could help him with the aid of your brothers charity. We could all post our memories of how much of a twat he was as a player, and I'll happily volunteer to go and read them out to him in person.
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Mike Tindall
If you mean the ex-Villa player, he's particularly happy with life now.
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Mike Tindall
If you mean the ex-Villa player, he's particularly happy with life now.
Glad to hear it. Last I heard he was walking round Bromsgrove, calling himself the "disciple of Jesus" and trying to cobble together the money to go on a missionary trip to spread the word of God in Africa.
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
Good on him. Both of them in fact.
Just an excellent article. I wonder where/how he found this story?
Nice to see a completely different side to Keane, someone who I have always thought a fairly deplorable character, partially driven by his media image but also his own personal actions. While this doesn't completely change my image of him, it is pretty impressive given that there are probably not many people who would have been willing to go to the lengths that he has to help someone who, by the sounds of it, was not an incredibly close friend at the time of Charles' troubles
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This thread made me wonder what Gary Charles was up to now, which led me to this:
Roy Keane and Gary Charles: A different perspective on the Man Utd legend (http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.it/2014/10/i-dont-know-roy-keane_9.html)
It also offers an interesting alternative perspective on Roy Keane.
Good on him. Both of them in fact.
Just an excellent article. I wonder where/how he found this story?
He mentions in the article that he is a friend of Charles.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
Des Walker is a lorry driver who does stops where I work. He's a bit of a mardy fucker, obviously I don't know for sure if it's because he has to do a job like that but I suspect it is.
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Sorry, different sport but I read this article this morning and thought how the highs of a career as a pro sportsman must make the low, or normality, of every day life harder to accept.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34167399
Chris Lewis the cricketer is another which springs to mind.
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Phil King's got an OK pub in Swindon, so far as any pub in Swindon can be OK.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
Des Walker is a lorry driver who does stops where I work. He's a bit of a mardy fucker, obviously I don't know for sure if it's because he has to do a job like that but I suspect it is.
What a fantastic defender he was.
See, that's what annoys me. A great defender like that having to drive a lorry for years after retiring, and truly mediocre guff like Habib Beye set for life.
I say "annoys", that's a bit strong, but hey ho.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
I thought it was Nigel Spink's own courier business.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
I thought it was Nigel Spink's own courier business.
It probably is, but he's still driving a van for a living (as per a tweet the other week) whereas your Nicky Shoreys are reclining in large thrones made of gold, in enormous country mansions.
probably
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Anyone remember Marco Boogers who went from playing top flight football, not very successfully mind, with West Ham to living in a caravan.
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I thought Boogers went awol and was found in a caravan?
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Actually that appears to have been untrue.
http://backpagefootball.com/the-curious-case-of-marco-boogers/21422/
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I like the fact that he will be forever remembered for something untrue which he has no control over. Bit like whatsit playing saxaphone on Baker Street. Bob summat.
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I like the fact that he will be forever remembered for something untrue which he has no control over. Bit like whatsit playing saxaphone on Baker Street. Bob summat.
Or, and I confess to only recently knowing this, the American guy who bought London Bridge knew full well what he was buying. Many of his countrymen didn't.
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Another non Villa player, but it was shocking to see Kenny Sansom in the paper a while ago, alcoholic and pot less, was reduced to sleeping on a park bench.
He's having a terrible time.
I was also reading about (the very ill) Ralph Milne at the weekend, and he too has had it rough, to say the least.
I always feel really bad for some of the players who missed out on the "set for life" money by being around too early. I read the other day that Nigel Spink is now a van courier. I'm not suggesting he's anything but happy with his lot, not at all, but I wonder how many players in the top flight these days will ever have to work like that in times to come?
I thought it was Nigel Spink's own courier business.
It probably is, but he's still driving a van for a living (as per a tweet the other week) whereas your Nicky Shoreys are reclining in large thrones made of gold, in enormous country mansions.
In the series of podcasts that the Guardian did over the summer of interviews with recently retired footballers (which were all very good and well worth listening to, the Dean Windass one particularly), Matt Le Tissier was talking on this subject and mentioned that the biggest contract that he had in his career was £4,000 per week. Which is fine, he's probably not living in poverty and £200,000 per year is still rather a lot.
But for somebody who was a) pretty fucking brilliant, b) didn't retire that long ago in the grand scheme of things and c) probably in a position to earn millions of pounds a year, even if he were just staying with Southampton had he been playing ten years later, that's basically peanuts. I expect that we have players in our youth team, who will never even make it onto our bench earning considerably more than that.
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We probably paid Salifou double that amount!
Says it all, really.
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Didn't Le Tissier go out with some actress from Home and Away - possibly Marilyn?
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I like the fact that he will be forever remembered for something untrue which he has no control over. Bit like whatsit playing saxaphone on Baker Street. Bob summat.
Or, and I confess to only recently knowing this, the American guy who bought London Bridge knew full well what he was buying. Many of his countrymen didn't.
*nods*
Fucking astonishing that Sterling will be sold for £49m. Give Liverpool their dues. They've sucked £169m out of other clubs for Torres, Suarez and Sterling. Incredible.
Liverpool's chief negotiator must be the same guy who sold London Bridge to that American who thought he was getting Tower Bridge.
A good story, but not true I'm afraid. They had planned to knock it down, leave the remains in the river and just rebuild it as it wasn't wide enough for modern (at the time) traffic. There was a trend in America to buy up European buildings at the time so they advertised it for sale and sent out loads of brochures, with pictures of London Bridge on.
But had they bought the right bridge? Legend has it that McCulloch thought he was getting Tower Bridge, but according to Elborough (author of London Bridge In America), legend doesn’t know what it’s talking about. When McCulloch came to the UK to sign on the dotted line, he was photographed on London Bridge with Tower Bridge in the background. He was no fool. Indeed, he comes over as rather an admirable character: bold, adventurous and a bit batty.
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Sky TV and rich oligarchs have murdered English football. OK, we have a more cosmopolitan mix of average footballer to watch these days, but just about everything else about the game is increasingly shit:
1) Bang average footballers are earning millions and millions, while the cost of going to games for families is prohibitive for many families.
2) The league is less competitive than it's ever been, with the top 5 effectively a closed cartel. I remember teams like us, Newcastle, Leeds, Ipswich and Forest pushing hard for the title, and as things stand now that's unthinkable.
3) The England team has suffered with so very few opportunities for young English players coming through. Look at the recent England squads to see how utterly mediocre most of the players are.
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
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Which B was a British Agent played by Bob Holness?
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I like the fact that he will be forever remembered for something untrue which he has no control over. Bit like whatsit playing saxaphone on Baker Street. Bob summat.
Or, and I confess to only recently knowing this, the American guy who bought London Bridge knew full well what he was buying. Many of his countrymen didn't.
*nods*
Fucking astonishing that Sterling will be sold for £49m. Give Liverpool their dues. They've sucked £169m out of other clubs for Torres, Suarez and Sterling. Incredible.
Liverpool's chief negotiator must be the same guy who sold London Bridge to that American who thought he was getting Tower Bridge.
A good story, but not true I'm afraid. They had planned to knock it down, leave the remains in the river and just rebuild it as it wasn't wide enough for modern (at the time) traffic. There was a trend in America to buy up European buildings at the time so they advertised it for sale and sent out loads of brochures, with pictures of London Bridge on.
But had they bought the right bridge? Legend has it that McCulloch thought he was getting Tower Bridge, but according to Elborough (author of London Bridge In America), legend doesn’t know what it’s talking about. When McCulloch came to the UK to sign on the dotted line, he was photographed on London Bridge with Tower Bridge in the background. He was no fool. Indeed, he comes over as rather an admirable character: bold, adventurous and a bit batty.
I was on one of those Tour Bus teams (couple of weeks after Cup Final) with a Gooner as guide (he was alright to be fair) and he illuminated me.
Was it the Black Eyed Peas who did a song London Bridge where Tower Bridge featured prominently?
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
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That was interesting.
I know a few people in Cork, not remotely interested in football, who say that Keane is pretty well known for helping charities and clubs there and whilst at Man U was often at the airport picking up people from Cork who were over to visit (their point being that he was loyal to his circle of friends and took the time to pick them up in person).
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Dexys Midnight Runners asked that Jocky Wilson be used during their Top of the Pops performance of 'Jackie Wilson said'. Wish somebody would tell all those clueless makers of crap 'Who remembers the 80's?' type TV programmes.
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I think of everybody, Gary Charles is about the saddest and worst case. I hope he's got his life sorted now because a few years ago it wasn't looking too clever.
He was coaching teenagers at a Tamworth based club (Bolehall Swifts) up until 2 seasons ago. Not sure if he still is.
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Which B was a British Agent played by Bob Holness?
James Bond, in a radio play
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Dexys Midnight Runners asked that Jocky Wilson be used during their Top of the Pops performance of 'Jackie Wilson said'. Wish somebody would tell all those clueless makers of crap 'Who remembers the 80's?' type TV programmes.....
....to fuck off.
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Remember curcics home debut he and savo tore arsenal to shreds we went 2-0 up and only a world class save from seaman stopped us going 3-0 up game over.
Arse brought hartson and wright on (I think ) and we fell apart losing 2-3 and I'm sure he never got a look in after that but for me I loved him always trying to something different.
Such a shame
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Terrible to hear Robbie Savage yesterday, he was babbling incoherently on the radio, only heard a bit of whatever it was but I assume it was a programme about the permanently bewildered.
Bit of an unfortunate phrase to use considering what happened to his father.
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Remember curcics home debut he and savo tore arsenal to shreds we went 2-0 up and only a world class save from seaman stopped us going 3-0 up game over.
Arse brought hartson and wright on (I think ) and we fell apart losing 2-3 and I'm sure he never got a look in after that but for me I loved him always trying to something different.
Such a shame
Finished 2-2, Derby at home was Curcic's first game for us.
I've said before that a good mate of mine knew Curcic well while he was with us so met Curcic a few times. We all went out to lunch one day and he was a lovely chap, mad as a box of frogs though, in a nice way. I think the main thing for him though was he hated playing football, he only played because he was good at it and it meant he could support his family back home.
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Which B was a British Agent played by Bob Holness?
James Bond, in a radio play
That's Blockbusters.
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I think Aston Villa should check out Sasa Curcic's coaching school and maybe help him out and he then can recommend some young players to watch out for in coaching school or watching youth football at the level. He could be employed as a scout or whatever. It might be worth investing say 150 pounds a week to do that.
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I think Aston Villa should check out Sasa Curcic's coaching school and maybe help him out and he then can recommend some young players to watch out for in coaching school or watching youth football at the level. He could be employed as a scout or whatever. It might be worth investing say 150 pounds a week to do that.
Nobody's stopping you.
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I am not running the club ;)
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Craig Gardner's career has gone down 2 toilets since leaving the Villa and it's a toss up over which one stinks the most, but i'll go for the cesspit he currently finds himself in (by a short tortoise head)
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curcic would have been on what 10k a week? 500k a year and he packed it in to be a porn star.
and now the club should help him lol
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From a different era but I remember watching a documentary on Albert Johannesson one of the first significant black players (he was South African) who is fondly remembered by older Leeds Utd fans as a very skilful, goalscoring left winger from the mid 1960's. If it was not for a certain Eddie Gray he would have played far more games though he did play in the 1965 FA Cup Final against Liverpool and I think was the first non-white to play in the final. A debt of gratitude should be bestowed on him as I imagine that he suffered from all sorts of abuse and bigotry but he paved the way towards the more enlightened attitude towards non Caucasian footballers.Unfortunately, and sadly without recognition at the time, he died in 1995, a recluse who had suffered with alcoholism, meningitis and heart failure.
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The Nii Lamptey story is a very sad read.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/448663-a-tragic-career-the-tale-of-nii-lamptey
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curcic would have been on what 10k a week? 500k a year and he packed it in to be a porn star.
and now the club should help him lol
He also battled a drug addiction. Is that lol too?
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Paul Merson. Blew his first ever pay cheque as a pro footballer same day in the bookies and never really recovered.
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Marlon Harewood at Nuneaton?
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Marlon Harewood at Nuneaton?
That's more "clubs gone wrong"
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Paul Merson. Blew his first ever pay cheque as a pro footballer same day in the bookies and never really recovered.
He doesn't look like he's doing too badly to me.
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Paul Merson. Blew his first ever pay cheque as a pro footballer same day in the bookies and never really recovered.
He doesn't look like he's doing too badly to me.
He's another one who has somehow found employment where you need to be able to use words and form sentences and doesn't appear to be able to do either.
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Plenty of the names on this thread simply prove the adage about a fool and his money. Although I would add that in a business where young men barely out of school are made millionaires, their employees perhaps have a duty of care to ensure that they are properly advised and helped.
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Not having Sky I don't see Soccer Saturday very often, the odd time i've seen it in the past I always got the impression Merson was on there, in part at least, for them to take the piss out of. The 'bantz' is probably very popular with most of the Sky watching generation.
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Paul Merson. Blew his first ever pay cheque as a pro footballer same day in the bookies and never really recovered.
He doesn't look like he's doing too badly to me.
He's got a cushy number at Sky and on the after dinner circuit as he has "a tale to tell" but he's certainly spunked a lot of £££ up the wall through a variety of means and misdemeanours . (Haven't we all though)
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Not having Sky I don't see Soccer Saturday very often, the odd time i've seen it in the past I always got the impression Merson was on there, in part at least, for them to take the piss out of. The 'bantz' is probably very popular with most of the Sky watching generation.
He sort of plays court jester which is some going when you're in the same room as Charlie Nicholas , Phil Thompson and Matt Le Tis.
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Not having Sky I don't see Soccer Saturday very often, the odd time i've seen it in the past I always got the impression Merson was on there, in part at least, for them to take the piss out of. The 'bantz' is probably very popular with most of the Sky watching generation.
He sort of plays court jester which is some going when you're in the same room as Charlie Nicholas , Phil Thompson and Matt Le Tis.
Sounds like hell on earth.
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Albert Johanneson's plight, even before he left football, was pitiful. He was too much of a victim to qualify as a 'footballer gone wrong'. If ever a player deserved a guiding hand and a bit of help from his former club it was Johanneson.
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Plenty of the names on this thread simply prove the adage about a fool and his money. Although I would add that in a business where young men barely out of school are made millionaires, their employees perhaps have a duty of care to ensure that they are properly advised and helped.
That's what the employ agents for.
Unfortunately (and this may be a gross misrepresentation based on a few high profile arseholes) the agents appear to be at best, as concerned about earning their next 10% as looking after their clients best long term interests.
The only way you're going to protect footballers from the corrosive effects of that much wealth at that age, mostly without the education or self-realisation to navigate amongst the sharks, yes men, and leaches that that kind of money attracts is to deposit a large percentage of their wages into some sort of trust fund to be accessed on retirement so that there will always be something there. (Just like the rest of us do, just that we have to work and save for 40 years to get a relative pittance back.)
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
Sorry I read that twice and I still don't understand
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
Sorry I read that twice and I still don't understand
It's an oft-repeated urban myth that John Lukic's mom was on the Munich plane whilst pregnant with him, but it's obviously not true as he wasn't born until three years later.
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Curcic (https://instagram.com/p/7V2CGRSwad/)
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Plenty of the names on this thread simply prove the adage about a fool and his money. Although I would add that in a business where young men barely out of school are made millionaires, their employees perhaps have a duty of care to ensure that they are properly advised and helped.
Siado Berehino is a prime example. An arrogant young man who thinks he knows it all but but quite obviously doesn't know anything. Tony Pullis (and all managers) must despair at the crass attitudes of this type of player
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
Sorry I read that twice and I still don't understand
It's an oft-repeated urban myth that John Lukic's mom was on the Munich plane whilst pregnant with him, but it's obviously not true as he wasn't born until three years later.
That myth started because apparently there was a stewardess on the flight with the surname Lukic who was pregnant at the time. I remember in the nineties it led to the fantastic but false quiz question about who was the only Munich survivor still playing top flight football. As you point out, he was born a few years too late for it to possibly have been true.
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
Sorry I read that twice and I still don't understand
It's an oft-repeated urban myth that John Lukic's mom was on the Munich plane whilst pregnant with him, but it's obviously not true as he wasn't born until three years later.
That myth started because apparently there was a stewardess on the flight with the surname Lukic who was pregnant at the time. I remember in the nineties it led to the fantastic but false quiz question about who was the only Munich survivor still playing top flight football. As you point out, he was born a few years too late for it to possibly have been true.
*PEDANT ALERT*
The Mrs Lukic in question was the non-pregnant wife of the Yugoslavian ambassador, who was hitching a lift back to London from Belgrade.
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Bob Holness. Its just come back to me.
and Dion Dublin's dad was in Showaddywaddy.
John Lukic mom was stewardess on ill fated flight of of Munich in 1958. I remember him being interviewed and he said it would have been a hell of a pregnancy 3 years in total.
Sorry I read that twice and I still don't understand
It's an oft-repeated urban myth that John Lukic's mom was on the Munich plane whilst pregnant with him, but it's obviously not true as he wasn't born until three years later.
That myth started because apparently there was a stewardess on the flight with the surname Lukic who was pregnant at the time. I remember in the nineties it led to the fantastic but false quiz question about who was the only Munich survivor still playing top flight football. As you point out, he was born a few years too late for it to possibly have been true.
*PEDANT ALERT*
The Mrs Lukic in question was the non-pregnant wife of the Yugoslavian ambassador, who was hitching a lift back to London from Belgrade.
I think you might find that she was pregnant with her son, Zoran.
She also had her daughter with her (not in the womb).
*adjusts glasses*
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Football club should set up contract to look after players for long term rather than give then all 30 grand a week. Why not give them say 10 grand and put 20 grand in investment to enable them get income after playing games. And if Players are responsible enough after couple of years then they could get more freedom with investment.
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Why not give them say 10 grand and put 20 grand in investment to enable them get income after playing games.
Because they'll then just go to a different club that wouldn't treat them like a child that doesn't know what to do with his pocket money.
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One thing they're not short of: people giving them `expert advice' on how to invest their money.
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Why not give them say 10 grand and put 20 grand in investment to enable them get income after playing games.
Because they'll then just go to a different club that wouldn't treat them like a child that doesn't know what to do with his pocket money.
Plus there's the fact that a lot of owners aren't exactly great role models when it comes to money.
Randy Lerner "Here's £20K of your £50K Gueye, I totally haven't blown a huge chunk of my family trust fund and I am therefore going to invest this wisely for you."
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
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Why not give them say 10 grand and put 20 grand in investment to enable them get income after playing games.
Because they'll then just go to a different club that wouldn't treat them like a child that doesn't know what to do with his pocket money.
Plus there's the fact that a lot of owners aren't exactly great role models when it comes to money.
Randy Lerner "Here's £20K of your £50K Gueye, I totally haven't blown a huge chunk of my family trust fund and I am therefore going to invest this wisely for you."
"...by the way Idrissa, have you ever thought of investing your money in a mid-ranking football club?"
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Why not give them say 10 grand and put 20 grand in investment to enable them get income after playing games.
Because they'll then just go to a different club that wouldn't treat them like a child that doesn't know what to do with his pocket money.
Plus there's the fact that a lot of owners aren't exactly great role models when it comes to money.
Randy Lerner "Here's £20K of your £50K Gueye, I totally haven't blown a huge chunk of my family trust fund and I am therefore going to invest this wisely for you."
"...by the way Idrissa, have you ever thought of investing your money in a mid-ranking football club?"
... there's a real opportunity to turn it into a perennial bottom feeder.
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Fabian Delph.
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Fabian Delph.
You beat me to it.
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me too
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Fab... oh arse
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Shame Lowry
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Young footballers who act up should be made to spend a week making deliveries with Des Walker. The club could pay Des £500 to be super-arsey
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Mark Bosnich was in a bad way a couple of years ago, not sure if he has cleaned up his act since
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
George Edwards had a newsagents in Baldwins Lane, Hall Green. Through him my late father struck up a relationship with Stan Lynn and Harry Parkes - he attended shareholders meetings with them - betwen them they must have been the first "Anti Ellis" brigade.
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Jimmy Greaves I know he used to have a drink problem a long time ago but now he's had a stroke and needs help with his care he was a brilliant goalscorer I wonder if he was playing today how much would he be worth when you see average players going for £10 million and above I hope the football world can help him out.
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I noticed that a couple of you had mentioned bankrupts, so I'll suggest Brad Friedel who went bankrupt with debts of nearly £5 million
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
Anyone remember Craystons newsagents in Blackwood Road, Streetly. Arsenal and England.
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It was only after I left Streetly that I got to wonder how Jack Crayston ended up running a newsagents in a residential district of a conurbation from which he neither hailed or played for one of its teams. Does anyone know?
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Mark Bosnich was in a bad way a couple of years ago, not sure if he has cleaned up his act since
He has. He's a pundit on fox sports A league match day coverage here in aus, along with Robbie Slater. Bit of a knob to be honest. Slater's ok, but a bit too serious.
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All the girls at school fancied bosnich
By the time he was in his thirties he looked like Ian Beale!
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Cocaine will do that. By the time he's 50 he'll look like Lou Beale.
One for the kids there
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Cocaine will do that. By the time he's 50 he'll look like Lou Beale.
One for the kids there
at sixty he'll look like Pete Beale.
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
He looks like he's mimicking Paul Jewell's sex face.
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David White?
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Four goals against us...is it Ridgewell?
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete?
Aren't darts players classed as professional athletes these days?
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
Anyone remember Craystons newsagents in Blackwood Road, Streetly. Arsenal and England.
I bought my sweets and comics there when I was a kid. And my mom's fags from the age of about five or six ('I've got a note from me mum').
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I don't want to suggest that he has 'gone wrong' as he apparently 'runs his own waste reclamation firm' nowadays. But I think he should get somebody to look at his blood pressure
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Two opposition player names that spring to mind when I remember extremely bad times at Villa Park - David Fucking White and Trevor Fucking Christie.
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We made David White look like Zico. That was terrible.
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We made David White look like Zico. That was terrible.
We made Mickey Quinn look like Gerd Muller, and that was with the best side I've seen us have.
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The appropriately named Tony Woodcock had a tendency to tear us a new one on a couple of occasions as I recall.
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We made David White look like Zico. That was terrible.
I loaned my season ticket to a mate for that match whilst I went on a date with my future wife.
A truly dreadful evening all round looking back.
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Can anyone post a recent photo of Neville Southall?
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Can anyone post a recent photo of Neville Southall?
At a buffet with John Barnes and Jan Molby if possible
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
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Anyone got a photo of Neil Shipperley, he must be 20 stone now.
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Thanks. He used to be a binman before becoming the best goalkeeper in the country?
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Let's play spot the difference.
(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/9646/10499937_2.jpg?v=8CE714124B67990)
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Shipperley has kept himself surprisingly fit
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01453/SNN1517A---_1453576a.jpg)
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Thanks. He used to be a binman before becoming the best goalkeeper in the country?
Binman, waiter (I'm sure we can all guess where that went wrong) and a hod carrier. He's also a teatotaller. I can't even begin to imagine what he'd look like if he liked a pint.
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Thanks. He used to be a binman before becoming the best goalkeeper in the country?
Binman, waiter (I'm sure we can all guess where that went wrong) and a hod carrier. He's also a teatotaller. I can't even begin to imagine what he'd look like if he liked a pint.
He was brilliant for a while.
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Cocaine will do that. By the time he's 50 he'll look like Lou Beale.
One for the kids there
at sixty he'll look like Pete Beale.
All the girls at school fancied bosnich
By the time he was in his thirties he looked like Ian Beale!
And the moral of the story is:
Get your quotes lined up in order
Or
Cocaine leads to a life on Beale Street.
Which actually doesn't sound too bad.
So, Another moral:
Sometimes they (morals) don't turn out the way you'd think. :)
Which also works for ex footballers! Wow, complete circle.
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Thanks. He used to be a binman before becoming the best goalkeeper in the country?
Binman, waiter (I'm sure we can all guess where that went wrong) and a hod carrier. He's also a teatotaller. I can't even begin to imagine what he'd look like if he liked a pint.
He was brilliant for a while.
He certainly was, he was a brilliant keeper.
That Everton team was excellent. Had we not got banned from Europe, I've a feeling they'd have had a good shout of winning the European Cup.
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Always seem to recall Neville southall would be covered in shit and looked like he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards before a ball had even been kicked in anger.
He was a top keeper though for 2 or 3 years , very agile.
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For probably 4 or 5 years he was as good a keeper as any in the world. Yet this is always my first thought of him whenever I hear his name.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/07/article-0-14E36A2E000005DC-93_634x438.jpg)
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I loved t he story about Southall, possibly an urban myth, but at one Everton training session the whole squad were taking pot shots at him for 30 minutes and he wasn't allowed to use his hands. No one scored at all, he saved every shot.
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
who even is that? Got no idea.
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PWS was right...its fatboy David White (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2279238/David-White-poses-FA-Cup-ahead-Manchester-City-Leeds-clash.html)
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
who even is that? Got no idea.
Supposedly it's David White, formerly of Leeds and Man Citeh. Though it looks like Jocky Wilson's mum
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George Edwards was our newsagent when my mom and dad moved to Hall Green. As is common in the trade when the paper boys don't turn up the proprietor has to deliver the papers. My mother doorstepped him and told him that it was not appropriate for a Villa legend to so demean himself and she in future would send my dad up to Baldwin's Lane for our Sporting Buff and Birmingham Gazette. (I was in the Kate Karney marching up and down the Berlin Wall frightening the shit out of Nikita Khrushchev).
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I knew a bloke who got locked up for the night for assaulting Neville Southall. He was up in Glasgow for a pre season friendly and had been drinking most of the day and his mates told him Southall wanted a word with him (this was round about the time of his strike threat or whatever it was), the problem was that at the time he was warming up on the pitch and Andy in his befuddled state believed his mates and proceeded to make his way on to the pitch to confront him and ended up shoving him over.
Next day he appeared in court and received a fine and some sort of banning order, he was mortified but when the police were asked how it was that he was able to casually make his way on to the pitch and approach Southall without being stopped, the copper responded that as he was wearing what appeared to be an official Everton tracksuit they assumed he was a member of the coaching staff until they saw him push Mr Southall into the back of the goal!
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Here you go, Chico.
(http://i1.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article7192631.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Southall.jpg)
Thanks. He used to be a binman before becoming the best goalkeeper in the country?
Binman, waiter (I'm sure we can all guess where that went wrong) and a hod carrier. He's also a teatotaller. I can't even begin to imagine what he'd look like if he liked a pint.
He wouldn't look out of place with the rest of the goons in Jabba the Hut's palace.
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Then there's this jolly chap
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/13/article-2261590-16E619C6000005DC-999_634x368.jpg)
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###just don't let Southall read you any of his poetry.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/vogon.jpg)
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
That's a shocker. Totally unrecognisable. I'm sure we put a bid in for him when BFR was in charge.
Anyone mentioned Michael Johnson yet? Looked a superb prospect when he came through at Man City. Retired about three years ago aged 24, looking about four stone overweight
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David Bentley must be a contender
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David Bentley must be a contender
He retired because he said that he had fallen out of love with the game.
He's not doing to bad either. Owns a restaurant in Marbella and invested in property.
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
who even is that? Got no idea.
David White. [ Invalid YouTube link ]
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David White was a sexy fucker in his prime, wasn't he ?
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David White was a sexy fucker in his prime, wasn't he ?
He's still sexier than me and he looks like a dinner lady who's been sleeping in a skip
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David Bentley must be a contender
He retired because he said that he had fallen out of love with the game.
He's not doing to bad either. Owns a restaurant in Marbella and invested in property.
Given that there are literally scores of very good restaurants in Marbella / P Banus already , he better have a very good one
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La Sala, Puerto Banus.
http://www.lasalabanus.com
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The man who put the anus into Puerto Banus.
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Eric Gates now runs a pig farm. @FinishedPlayers on Twitter tells you what loads of players are doing now.
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Eric Gates now runs a pig farm. @FinishedPlayers on Twitter tells you what loads of players are doing now.
The PM will be in touch with him soon then,
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I saw Merson present an after dinner speech at a "do" I was at a couple of years ago, didn't mention the Villa once & his speech, tone, delivery etc were shite as well.
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Can you even tell that this person used to be a professional athlete? Clue: the highlight of his career was scoring four goals against the Villa
(http://whdn.williamhill.com/cms/images/news/library/en/feature/nb11davidwhitefacup.jpg)
who even is that? Got no idea.
I don't know David White, from the description (4 goals against Villa being his career highlight) I thought it might be Micky Quinn. Mind you, I think he got a hat-trick, not 4.
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
Anyone remember Craystons newsagents in Blackwood Road, Streetly. Arsenal and England.
Oh yes! Many pennies worth of pocket money wasted in that shop!
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
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Met Brendan Ormsby after a Leeds vs Villa game; a postie.
Seeing how David White has 'matured' I wonder what the hell must Nigel Callaghan look like?
Edit - having just googled him, he's large.
He's unfortunately also grappling with cancer, sad to report.
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Met Brendan Ormsby after a Leeds vs Villa game; a postie.
Seeing how David White has 'matured' I wonder what the hell must Nigel Callaghan look like?
Edit - having just googled him, he's large.
He's unfortunately also grappling with cancer, sad to report.
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-star-Nigel-Callaghan-lives-mental/story-21120411-detail/story.html
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
Didn't Kenny Burns do a shit once in someone's house from this board? or did I dream that?
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
Didn't Kenny Burns do a shit once in someone's house from this board? or did I dream that?
Why on earth would you dream that?!
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
Didn't Kenny Burns do a shit once in someone's house from this board? or did I dream that?
That rings a bell from a while back. There is a fair chance his son did one in my shop at some point. Now we just need someone who knew his wife to claim the full shithouse set.
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I was really excited when we signed Nigel Callaghan. He'd always looked really good when Derby had been on telly.
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I don't remember Derby being on telly much around that time but I can remember a Notts County v Watford game on MOTD that finished about 6-7 with Barnes and Callaghan both scoring a few and setting up few.
Admittedly the mists of time have probably made me exaggerate my memories but it was a fairly high scoring game and they both excelled on their respective wings.
Just checked and it's on Youtube. Feb 1984, Notts County 3 Watford 5.
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
Didn't Kenny Burns do a shit once in someone's house from this board? or did I dream that?
It was my mate's parents' house in Nottingham years ago.
His parents had their house for sale. One day, couple come to view it, Mr and Mrs Kenny Burns. While he was there, Burns asked if he could use the toilet. Which he did.
Shortly after he'd gone, my mate went to use said toilet. Said it stank like a decomposing rat, and the filthy bastard had pebbledashed it, no attempt to tidy up after himself.
Apologies to long term readers, I've definitely related that story here before a few times.
A few years later, my parents were selling their house. One of the viewers was Ray Ranson. He didn't buy it, but at least he had the courtesy not to foul the facilities.
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Totally off-topic but, that story of Burns allegedly shitting where he shouldn't reminded me that, that happened at the last place I worked back home. Sometime, over one weekend, somebody took it upon himself to shit in the desk drawer of the works manager. Whatever possessed him to do it I'll never know or understand. As you would imagine, when the story broke on the Monday morning; much hilarity and merriment ensued. For the rest of my time there I, or anyone else found out who the phantom turd layer was.
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Sorry about what Niger Callan hand is fighting but I can tell you the bloke was the world's biggest wander. He used to come and train with my Sunday league side whilst lodging with one of my team mates not long after signing for us. I say lodge but I don't think the turd actually stuck his hand in his pocket.
My team mate was a massive SHA fan and during team building drinking sessions said fat failed DJ used to happily serade us with Graham Taylor what a wanker what a wanker whilst walking up George Street in Tamworth.This was before he used to spin the wheels of steel in the George.
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Totally off-topic but, that story of Burns allegedly shitting where he shouldn't reminded me that, that happened at the last place I worked back home. Sometime, over one weekend, somebody took it upon himself to shit in the desk drawer of the works manager. Whatever possessed him to do it I'll never know or understand. As you would imagine, when the story broke on the Monday morning; much hilarity and merriment ensued. For the rest of my time there I, or anyone else found out who the phantom turd layer was.
I have a similar story. Friend of mine on a golf outing played 18 holes in the morning, had lunch in the clubhouse, and when he returned to his golf bag for another 18 in the afternoon found that someone had taken a dump in it (the ball pocket to be precise). Most peculiar.
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The Holte End phantom pharter in the mid 00s was revealed as erstwhile poster Chris (f)Harte if I remember rightly.
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
Anyone remember Craystons newsagents in Blackwood Road, Streetly. Arsenal and England.
Oh yes! Many pennies worth of pocket money wasted in that shop!
It seemed every shop I used to go in as a kid my dad would tell me it was owned by an ex-Villa player. I can't remember them all now but Billy Kirton had one on the College Road, and there was a chippy round there owned by an ex player too and I'm sure someone had a shop on Kingstanding circle. Then whenever we were it town we'd always spend time in Harry Parkes' sports shop on corporation Street - with a cricket bat as a door handle and all old Villa team photos hanging on the walls.
I remember reading in Joe Mercer's biography that after transferring from Everton to Arsenal they allowed him to stay on Merseyside and train with Liverpool during the week so he could work in his grocers shop after training, then get a train to London on the Friday for the game. He was captain of England at the time!
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
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Sherwood!
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
Just "bantz" probably.
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dumping in a bowling ball sock I could just about understand, but a golf bag!
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ever seen any up to date photos of Kenny TR7 Burns the fat t=== - never liked the man
His son used to bet in a bookies I managed a few years back and seemed an okay bloke. I never knew his proper name as everyone just called him 'Burnsy'.
Didn't Kenny Burns do a shit once in someone's house from this board? or did I dream that?
I remember. Kenny was viewing their house with a view to buy and unloaded in their toilet in a most uncomplimentary manner. I'd imagine it would have the same consistency and aroma as that of a hippo.
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I was really excited when we signed Nigel Callaghan. He'd always looked really good when Derby had been on telly.
Hmmmmm
"I had a brilliant time being a footballer – I played for two great teams, Derby County and Watford, with great supporters.
Well fuck-off then.
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Much depends on the time frame when you assess whether a footballer has gone wrong. The best player I have ever seen was John Charles and the crock of gold at the end of his rainbow was the tenancy of a pub, in Leeds I think. That in turn led to excessive drinking and the all too familiar sad end. However, that was considered to be a well planned exit from the game in the not so distant past. Players with less generous clubs got a newsagents.
Anyone remember Craystons newsagents in Blackwood Road, Streetly. Arsenal and England.
Oh yes! Many pennies worth of pocket money wasted in that shop!
It seemed every shop I used to go in as a kid my dad would tell me it was owned by an ex-Villa player. I can't remember them all now but Billy Kirton had one on the College Road, and there was a chippy round there owned by an ex player too and I'm sure someone had a shop on Kingstanding circle. Then whenever we were it town we'd always spend time in Harry Parkes' sports shop on corporation Street - with a cricket bat as a door handle and all old Villa team photos hanging on the walls.
I remember reading in Joe Mercer's biography that after transferring from Everton to Arsenal they allowed him to stay on Merseyside and train with Liverpool during the week so he could work in his grocers shop after training, then get a train to London on the Friday for the game. He was captain of England at the time!
Kingstanding Circle (opposite the snooker hall and police station) was Bruce Rioch's shop. Plumber's merchant. Chico Hamilton had a boutique in Mere Green.
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
Yeah. That's the thin end of the wedge.
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can't remember who but when I went to a Stag weekend in Swansea circa 2001 the newsagent I was in was owned by an ex-Villa player.
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
Yeah. That's the thin end of the wedge.
surely you mean the thick end
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
Yeah. That's the thin end of the wedge.
surely you mean the thick end
I was concentrating on the wedge bit!
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what would possess any normal person to take a shit in a golf bag? FFS.
Yeah. That's the thin end of the wedge.
But with practice you can get it off to a tee
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I was really excited when we signed Nigel Callaghan. He'd always looked really good when Derby had been on telly.
Hmmmmm
"I had a brilliant time being a footballer – I played for two great teams, Derby County and Watford, with great supporters.
Well fuck-off then.
Useless waster in a Villa shirt. Remember when Platt tried to strangle him when a half hearted Callaghan gave up during a game. Pity he didn't finish him off.
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When I started my first job after graduating, one of my colleagues had been captain of the Hertfordshire schools county side that, as he put, it Nigel just about made the sub's bench. He thought at 15 he was a prize twat.
Said colleague had been a good prospect, captain of QPR youth team until he broke his leg twice in quick succession and that was the end of that. He went off and started work at the Datsun dealer in Watford, whilst Callaghan made his way with the town's football team. As soon as he got into the first team, he was in the garage putting down the deposit on a Datsun 240z and signing the HP agreement. Unfortunately the simple matter of making the repayments was beyond Nige, so my colleague got the job of going to the training ground and repossessing the car. He said it gave him immeasurable pleasure!
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can't remember who but when I went to a Stag weekend in Swansea circa 2001 the newsagent I was in was owned by an ex-Villa player.
Peter, I don't know for sure but, I would take a guess that the newsagent's shop was one belonging to Barry Hole.
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Pete, Bruce Rioch also had a Bathroom Showrooms on the Hawthorn Road, about half way down. Remember it?
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Went to a pub in rural Derbyshire few years back owned by Kevin Gage.
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The Manor?
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Couldn't tell you the name of it. Near Millthorpe
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The Manor House (https://www.facebook.com/manorhousehotel.co.uk?pnref=story)
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http://www.manor-househotel.co.uk/
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Don't think that's it, thinking about it I'm probably talking 20 years ago. Maybe his previous venture.
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Pete, Bruce Rioch also had a Bathroom Showrooms on the Hawthorn Road, about half way down. Remember it?
I don't remember that one Dave, I don't think I was ever aware of it.
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Wasn't KG's pub the Angel Inn at Holmesfield?
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Fred Turnbull has a pub in the North East somewhere.
He probably sits at his Bar rueing the day Martin Chivers was born.