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Title: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2015, 10:08:50 AM
I think at the moment I would go;

4-4-2
Guzan
Hutton
Amavi
Richards
Lescott
Sanchez
Gueye
Traore
Grealish
Sinclair
Gestede

Bunn
Clark
Bacuna
Veretout
Westwood
Gill
Kozak
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: teamvillage on September 02, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
4-2-3-1

Guzan

Hutton
Amavi
Richards
Lescott

Sanchez
Gueye

Grealish
Gil
Traore

Sinclair
-----------
Bunn
Clark
Ilori
Veretout
Westwood
Gestede
Kozak

There's flexibility to drop Sinclair back into the 3 and stick Kozak/Gestede up top.

Similarly, Veretout and/or Westwood would come in, depending on opposition.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2015, 10:20:45 AM
I know Sinclair has been great recently but I'm not sure he could play 2 positions :-)
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: teamvillage on September 02, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
I know Sinclair has been great recently but I'm not sure he could play 2 positions :-)

Edited - thanks. I knew what I meant...
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: tomd2103 on September 02, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
4-2-3-1

Guzan

Hutton
Amavi
Richards
Lescott

Sanchez
Gueye

Grealish
Gil
Traore

Sinclair
-----------
Bunn
Clark
Ilori
Veretout
Westwood
Gestede
Kozak

There's flexibility to drop Sinclair back into the 3 and stick Kozak/Gestede up top.

Similarly, Veretout and/or Westwood would come in, depending on opposition.

Yep that is pretty much the team I would go for except I would have Sinclair on the left of the 3 behind the striker with Grealish or Gil in the middle and Gestede, Gabby or Kozak starting up front. 
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 02, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
All the squad fit, I'd pick:

Guzan

Richards Okore Lescott Amavi

Sanchez Gana

Adama Grealish Gil

Sinclair

Subs

Bunn
Bacuna
Ilori
Veretout
Gabby
Gestede
Clark
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Richard on September 02, 2015, 10:58:51 AM
Looks like you've all written off Ayew already then!
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: darren woolley on September 02, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
I would also go for that team line up Percy.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2015, 11:30:52 AM
Looks like you've all written off Ayew already then!

The only player I've written off (available to us right now) is NZogbia.
Ayew, Richardson, Cole, Crespo, Tiago, Okore and hell, even Gabby still could force their way into the 18 or even maybe the 11. We are in quite a good place now squad wise.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: mr underhill on September 02, 2015, 11:43:11 AM
so does no one think Veretout is good enough to start or is it just lack of fitness?
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on September 02, 2015, 11:55:04 AM
so does no one think Veretout is good enough to start or is it just lack of fitness?

I think he needs time. Can see him being a regular starter next season, maybe earlier.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: footyskillz on September 02, 2015, 12:02:34 PM
so does no one think Veretout is good enough to start or is it just lack of fitness?

I'm in . though he needs to make a place his own. And up to fitness ! Perhaps similar to milner in that he's got a great engine  adap table to play holding, central and number 10. He tackles as well as delph you see! Okay so I think out of the central midfielder if we categorize him as such for discussion sake up against sanchez , Westwood,Ghana he will score the most goals ! You can book mark that! I would think he's going to play more than  won't and start more matches.

He will be the highest scoring midfielder this season.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: asgpaul on September 02, 2015, 12:05:01 PM
so does no one think Veretout is good enough to start or is it just lack of fitness?

I think he needs time. Can see him being a regular starter next season, maybe earlier.

I think once he gets up to speed he'll be a regular starter this season - have high hopes of this player.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 02, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
I'd like to see Veretout in attacking midfield, with Gana and Sanchez defensive midfield and wingers either side of him.

GK Guzan
RB Hutton
LB Amavi
CB Richards
CB Lescott
DM Gana Gueye
DM Sanchez
RW Traore
AM Veretout
CF Sinclair
LW Grealish

SUBS
Bunn
Crespo
Clark
Westwood
Gil
Ayew
Gestede

It's actually quite tricky to limit yourself to eighteen, which is pretty positive.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Lobsterboy on September 02, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
Guzan, Hutton, Amavi, Richards, Lescott, Gueye, Sanchez, Traore, Grealish, Sinclair, Gestede (4-2-3-1)

Subs: Bunn, Clark, Westwood, Veretout, Agbonlahor, Gil, Ayew

That still gives us the likes of Kozak, Ilori, Bacuna etc to bring in as required.

It looks on paper a decent squad, let's hope that look translates on to the pitch!
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Matt Collins on September 02, 2015, 12:34:55 PM
For now as we get to grips with things I'd go

Guzan - Hutton Richards lescott Amavi - Westwood Sanchez Gana - grealish - Gestede Sinclair

As we get up to speed i hope we can go more attacking:

Guzan - bacuna Richards lescott Amavi - Sanchez Gana - Traore grealish Sinclair - Gestede

Westwood and veretout to be regulars in there too, for Sanchez and one of the three AMs

Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 02, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
Guzan, Hutton, Amavi, Richards, Lescott, Gueye, Sanchez, Traore, Grealish, Sinclair, Gestede (4-2-3-1)

Subs: Bunn, Clark, Westwood, Veretout, Agbonlahor, Gil, Ayew

That still gives us the likes of Kozak, Ilori, Bacuna etc to bring in as required.

It looks on paper a decent squad, let's hope that look translates on to the pitch!

I like the look of the starting XI
I think we have to have a focal CF to bring a very dynamic and mobile attacking midfield into play. There are certainly players who now can get above the forward if the ball is held a fraction
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 02, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
I like the fact that we have several options now and something Sherwood was keen on creating, different ways of playing. The side should mature and evolve to the point that we can mix and match based on availability and opponents. Look at squad now vs what Lambert had and it appears on paper at least that it is so much stronger everywhere other than our primary striker. And let's see how that comes along because hopefully the midfield gets a lot more involved in creating and taking chances, and players like Gestede and Ayew get up to speed.

Lots of reason for optimism.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2015, 12:56:00 PM
I agree, there are many different variations on offer based on going more defensive or attacking. A formation that intrigues me but would mean not playing Grealish and Traore (so therefore is pretty unthinkable) would be 5-3-2 like Little used to play. I think we could have the best pair of wing backs in the league potentially and go
Guzan
RCB Okore
CB Richards
LCB Lescott
RWB Bacuna
LWB Amavi
DM Sanchez
AM Gueye
AM Veretout
CF Gestede
CF Sinclair

But at this stage i would sooner see what Traore and Grealish can do as wingers than play with wing backs.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 02, 2015, 01:14:07 PM
I think Veretout willl be the first name on the teamsheet by Christmas, he just needs to get his fitness up to speed, but I really think he's got the lot in his locker.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Matt Collins on September 02, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Veretout does have a great rep. The YouTube videos presumably don't do him justice as he looks pretty functional in those

Really happy with having a proper squad for once. But whichever team you pick from those above, the variations in attack leave a lot of question marks

And just to labour the point, I really really don't think Sinclair can play the 1 in a 4231 or 433. I just don't see it at all.
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: thegreatdane on September 02, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
I am unsure to Sinclair playing as a front man.

GK GUZAN
LB AMAVI
CB LESCOTT
CB CLARK
RB RICHARDS

CM GUEYE
CM VERETOUT / WESTWOOD
CM(A) GREALISH

LM) TRAORE
RM) SINCLAIR

ST) GESTEDE
Title: Re: Best 11 / 18....?
Post by: Virgil Caine on September 02, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
The positive now is that we have a squad which is good and competitive enough to have flexibility. My opinion is that Sherwood may set up either differently for home and away or pick sides depending on the opposition. Players will have to be used to being a squad rather than team member and that no one is guaranteed a place. The result should be that every player will be busting a gut each game they play as to make harder for TS to drop them. A couple of wins under the belt and this squad could really be flying by Christmas. Bring it on!
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