Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: UK Redsox on August 18, 2015, 11:45:48 AM
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Who's out on loan and how are they doing ?
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According to Wiki only Robinson (Bristol City) and Cissokho (Porto) are on loan. I reckon more will follow.
Robinson came on as sub in both Bristol's league defeats. He played the whole game and scored in their League Cup exit. They were being rumoured to want to spend £6 million on Palace's Gayle so it seems they're after a forward, which doesn't bode well if he's already struggling to get in the team for league games.
Cissokho played no part in Porto's opening win.
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I'm a little bit concerned that Robinson is not going to get much game time at Bristol City, seeing as they seem to be looking to spend astronomical (for The Championship) money on another striker. They've already tried to get Dwight Gayle from palace and have now apparently had a £9m (!!) bid accepted for Andre Gray at Brentford.
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Game time.
Eugh.
That is all.
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Chillax Gramps.
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Bah
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I never knew Cissokho was on loan at Porto.
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I never knew Cissokho was on loan at Porto.
Neither do Porto.
We just put him on the plane with no return address and sent them an email saying there was a surprise waiting at the airport.
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I never knew Cissokho was on loan at Porto.
Neither do Porto.
We just put him on the plane with no return address and sent them an email saying there was a surprise waiting at the airport.
a bit like paddington bear
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Robinson starts tonight against DL. He seems to be in midfield though, be interesting to see how he gets on (not that I can see it, but you know what I mean).
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Subbed off after 57 minutes with Bristol City 2-0 down at home to Leeds.
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They don't seem to be missing him. 2-2.
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Janoi Donacien has gone to Wycombe on a one-month loan.
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Janoi Donacien has gone to Wycombe on a one-month loan.
Ooh I might try and catch a game and check him out. I think he'll do well for them.
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I liked the bits I saw of Donacien, especially in pre-season a couple of years ago. Was hoping to see him around the first team squad by now.
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I liked the bits I saw of Donacien, especially in pre-season a couple of years ago. Was hoping to see him around the first team squad by now.
I was hoping that Villa would wait until after the Notts County game before sending him out on loan.
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Update:
Robinson was unused sub in Bristol C's win at Middlesbrough.
Donacien was substituted after 67 mins for Wycombe.
Cissokho played the whole game for Porto and was booked.
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Janoi Donacien remained an unused sub for Wycombe. They kept a clean sheet so he may have to wait to regain his place.
Robinson played eleven minutes off the bench for Bristol C.
Cissokho didn't play for Porto. Not sure but assume he was injured rather than dropped as he wasn't even in the squad.
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Another one to keep track on, Riccardo Calder has gone to Dundee until January.
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Calder's a big lad. I didn't think he was a winger from the pre-season games, more a central midfielder who likes to stick his boot in.
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Meaning Evil
17:53, 1 September 2015
By StripeyScrote
Joe Bennett will join Bournemouth on a six-month loan deal, but that won’t spell the end of his Aston Villa career.
The 25-year-old is set to sign a 12-month extension to his contract which would have expired at the end of this season.
Boss Tim Sherwood has been impressed with the left-back who scored in the 5-3 win over Notts County in the Capital One Cup win last week.
A number of Championship clubs had tracked his services this summer but he looked set to stay until Bournemouth’s late interest.
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Two more to keep an eye on then, Bennett at Bournemouth and Baker at Bristol City with Robinson.
I expect Gary Gardner and either Bunn or Steer to go on loan before too long.
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Kevin Toner has gone to Kidderminster Harriers on a months loan.
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Donacien has gone to Newport County on an emergency loan.
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Is Bennett getting any match time at Bournemouth?
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Baker's hamstring gone twang playing for Bristol City. Robinson doesn't make the substitutes. Again.
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Is Bennett getting any match time at Bournemouth?
Not played at all what was the point of loaning him, he should have gone to a championship team.
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Joe Cole scoring last night.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11710/10055079/watch-joe-cole-scores-classy-free-kick-for-coventry (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11710/10055079/watch-joe-cole-scores-classy-free-kick-for-coventry)
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Huddersfield Town's manager sacked this morning after last night's draw at Reading.
Jed Steer was in goal again for Huddersfield. According to Wiki his loan period expires next Wednesday 11th November. Hope he has benefited and comes back confident.
It will be interesting to see if Garde keeps him, or sends him out on loan again.
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Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/young-aston-villa-forward-danger-10385247)
Young Aston Villa forward in danger of becoming the forgotten man
Callum Robinson's loan move to Bristol City has not gone to plan and he is expected to return to Villa when it expires in January
16:00, 4 NOV 2015
BY GREGG EVANS
Callum Robinson is expected to seek a new challenge after struggling to make an impact at Bristol City.
Unless there’s a dramatic change in fortunes, the 20-year-old will leave Ashton Gate when his loan spell ends in January.
Robinson, who can’t play for another loan club until his current temporary spell ends, hasn’t made a first-team squad for over a month.
He’s failed to find the net in the Championship this season and has only played 171 minutes of league action.
Returning to Villa in 2016 is an option especially as he is only playing Under-21 football for Bristol City.
Last night he bagged the winner against Crystal Palace and still hopes to force his way back into Steve Cotterill’s plans but his chances appear slim.
The Robins can only name five of their six loan signings in a matchday 18 and the young Villa forward is way down the pecking order.
On top of that Robinson hasn’t really fitted into Cotterill’s 3-5-2 formation and he’s said to have cut a frustrated figure in recent times.
The move was supposed to give him a boost towards Villa’s first-team and when he moved in the summer he was filled with excitement.
With his contract expiring at the end of the season, the Northampton-born forward is effectively playing for his future.
Whether new boss Remi Garde will want to take a closer look at him after Christmas is still unclear.
But if Robinson is to get back on track and fulfil his huge potential he’ll need to start playing games and at Bristol City that looks unlikely.
Meanwhile, fellow loanee Nathan Baker returned to action last night after struggling with a hamstring injury.
He’s said to be making good progress at the club.
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Funny, I was just going to post in this thread but about Baker. Just talking to a city fan I work with, the lustrous bearded one is fit again and was MOTM last night against wolves, playing on the left side of a "proper" back 3. Apparently their fans love him and this guy is worried about us recalling him. So there you go.
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Can we recall Bennett? I don't like the thought of him playing for Bournemouth when one inspired performance could keep them up and send us down.
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Noticed that Jed Steer had been dropped and on the bench for Huddersfield's home defeat to Leeds today.
His loan with Huddersfield ends this Wednesday 11th November.
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Baker gave away a penalty, bit harsh according to Sky reporter. It was missed anyway.
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Baker gave away a penalty, bit harsh according to Sky reporter. It was missed anyway.
Ball came into the striker's feet and Baker was behind him. The striker then seemed to launch himself forward. Didn't look like Baker pushed him. They had the penalty saved anyway.
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Baker gave away a penalty, bit harsh according to Sky reporter. It was missed anyway.
Ball came into the striker's feet and Baker was behind him. The striker then seemed to launch himself forward. Didn't look like Baker pushed him. They had the penalty saved anyway.
Yeah, I think they said justice was done on Sky.
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Watching the replay of that incident it was clearly Baker's beard that made contact with the striker. No pen for me.
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Watching the replay of that incident it was clearly Baker's beard that made contact with the striker. No pen for me.
Aye, but one of the voles that live in Baker's beard might have bit him.
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It's only a matter of time before an opposition player gets the benefit of tight offside decision because Baker's beard is playing him on.
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From F365's "Top 10 Premier League Players Impressing On Loan" article:
Jed Steer (Huddersfield, from Aston Villa)
Huddersfield have only kept consecutive clean sheets three times since the start of the 2013/14 season; Jed Steer only joined in September, but he is responsible for a third of that tally.
While Aston Villa have toiled in the Premier League and sit bottom, loanee Steer has… well steered Huddersfield to safety in the Championship. The Terriers had conceded in all six of their games before the keeper arrived from Villa Park, and while the 23-year-old’s debut ended in defeat to Cardiff, he has kept two clean sheets since and has helped strengthen a troubled defence.
In a league table from the 10 games Steer has featured in since his Huddersfield debut Town sit 13th, with only nine sides losing fewer games in that sequence. In his first game out of the side since joining, Huddersfield lost 3-0 to Leeds, while Steer is also making more saves per game than Villa counterpart Guzan.
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Jed Steer has rejoined Huddersfield Town on a one month loan deal.
The shot-stopper will be with The Terriers until Boxing Day.
Steer has already spent two months with the Championship club.
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Callum Robinson back out on load to Preston
He's out of contract in the summer, so that might be that for his time at Villa
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11697/10120007/aston-villa-forward-callum-robinson-returns-to-preston-north-end-on-loan
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Calder back from Dundee
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https://twitter.com/lewis_kinsella/status/685168031203475456
"Sick of this bullshit"
Someone isn't happy.
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Calder back from Dundee
He's someone that I rated in pre-season
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https://twitter.com/lewis_kinsella/status/685168031203475456 (https://twitter.com/lewis_kinsella/status/685168031203475456)
"Sick of this bullshit"
Someone isn't happy.
Fair play, so. A good section of our fan base feels the same.
Here is some musical expression of the emotion.
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No wonder Ilori has given it legs. Gabby got a grip of him in training and the poor bastard prolly thought an asteroid was on the horizon, blotting out the sun.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYJFGqBWQAAlyxi.png)
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Choinks!
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Janoi Donacien live on S4C playing for Clwb Pêl-droed Sir Casnewydd against Blackburn
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Joe Bennett off to join the Scottish Iniesta @ Sheff Weds on loan until the end of the season
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Joe Bennett off to join the Scottish Iniesta @ Sheff Weds on loan until the end of the season
Physically one of the weakest defenders I've seen at Villa, he was like having a year 7 kid from P.E in your team.
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Gardner seems to be doing ok and playing for Forest.
If we do drop, he has to be back in our squad and playing next season surely?
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Only if we sell Veretout, which I Vere much hope we don't.
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Crespo appears to have gone back to Spain on loan. I forgot he existed.
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Only if we sell Veretout, which I Vere much hope we don't.
Why (first point not second)?
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Crespo was an odd signing, doesn't sound like he had the required quality.
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Gardner seems to be doing ok and playing for Forest.
If we do drop, he has to be back in our squad and playing next season surely?
90% passing accuracy and over 100 touches last Saturday, Forest fans love him. I'm not sure why he hasn't been given a shot here, surely a game or two to see if he has more to contribute than Westwood wouldn't have been that risky would it?
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Crespo was an odd signing, doesn't sound like he had the required quality.
In Crespo and Luna I think we somehow scouted technically two of the worst Spanish players that ever lived.
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Crespo was an odd signing, doesn't sound like he had the required quality.
In Crespo and Luna I think we somehow scouted technically two of the worst Spanish players that ever lived.
Agreed. Peanuts and monkeys spring to mind.
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Crespo was an odd signing, doesn't sound like he had the required quality.
In Crespo and Luna I think we somehow scouted technically two of the worst Spanish players that ever lived.
Cuellar wasn't great either. We don't seem to have much luck with Spanish players.
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Only if we sell Veretout, which I Vere much hope we don't.
Why (first point not second)?
Sorry. Just because I think Veretout is better and has potential to get a lot better than Gardner. I wouldn't give Gardner a chance at the moment as I don't see the two playing together. Maybe Gardner can stay as cover and play in the League Cup.
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Only if we sell Veretout, which I Vere much hope we don't.
Why (first point not second)?
Sorry. Just because I think Veretout is better and has potential to get a lot better than Gardner. I wouldn't give Gardner a chance at the moment as I don't see the two playing together. Maybe Gardner can stay as cover and play in the League Cup.
I haven't seen any Forest matches but hasn't he been playing a more defensive role and therefore not competing with Veretout but possibly playing the side with him. We should never keep players in the squad as cover. They should all be capable to come into the side to keep all players on their toes. This is one of the many failings we currently have.
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Gardner plays deeper but could just as easily have played where Westwood has been. I stop think if we let him go it will bite us.
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Gardner plays deeper but could just as easily have played where Westwood has been. I stop think if we let him go it will bite us.
I would bring him back in the summer with the intention of playing him at the start of the season. He did well last year at Forest so it shows that he can play at Championship level. I am sure if he gets a run of games and stays clear of injuries he will be ok for next season.
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Jerell Sellars joins Wycombe Wanderers on loan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35891381
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Wycombe Wanderers sign Aston Villa goalkeeper
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35851798
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On Saturday, Lewis Kinsella was relegated twice.
Kidderminster have also dropped.
That can't be too good for him
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On Saturday, Lewis Kinsella was relegated twice.
Kidderminster have also dropped.
That can't be too good for him
Character building!