What position does Taore play in?
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
Is it too much to hope for Tarore and Embolo before the window closes?
Is it too much to hope for Tarore and Embolo before the window closes?
Yes
Is it too much to hope for Tarore and Embolo before the window closes?
Yes
and its a yes from me Simon.
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
I will cry if true. He looks a fucking amazing player.
Please be true.
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
I will cry if true. He looks a fucking amazing player.
Please be true.
AS reporting it...
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
I will cry if true. He looks a fucking amazing player.
Please be true.
AS reporting it...
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Just had a look at the Birmingham Mail site, are they employing children during the summer holidays to write the content on the Villa transfer rumours page?
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
I will cry if true. He looks a fucking amazing player.
Please be true.
AS reporting it...
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Which translates as
Adama Traoré, who plays for Barcelona B, will play next season in the Premier League. Despite the interest from Liverpool and Stoke City, the squad has finally opted for Aston Villa. Adama, 19, signed for three seasons with another option.
The Spanish player of Malian descent is one of the pearls of the current blaugrana quarry. However, unlike Munir or Sandro, the end has not been called to make the preseason with the first team, why the player has decided to look for another club site in minutes you can enjoy the highest level.
Adama pass medical examination this Tuesday to stamp his contract with the villains. Villa Park will be challenged to demonstrate what their true level.
Villa Park will be challenged to demonstrate what their true level.
Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
He'll have great role models to look up to at Villa Park in Charles N'Zogbia, Scott Sinclair and Jack Grealish.
Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
Just stumbled across this:
http://www.modernghana.com/sports/635631/2/jordan-beware-aston-villa-sign-barcelona-youngster.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
(http://www.modernghana.com/sports/635631/2/jordan-beware-aston-villa-sign-barcelona-youngster.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Which contains the funniest line of text I've ever read:QuoteHe'll have great role models to look up to at Villa Park in Charles N'Zogbia, Scott Sinclair and Jack Grealish.
Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
Looks like we've won the bidding war with Stoke then.
I just hope that Liverpool don't come in with a higher bid.Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
Looks like we've won the bidding war with Stoke then.
Blimey. Even allowing for the fact that N'Zogbia and Kozak look to be surplus to requirements, that's still Ayew, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil, Grealish, Gestede and Traore to fit into 3 attacking positions.
Traore done !! Wtf ! This is magnificent
Blimey. Even allowing for the fact that N'Zogbia and Kozak look to be surplus to requirements, that's still Ayew, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil, Grealish, Gestede and Traore to fit into 3 attacking positions.
Blimey. Even allowing for the fact that N'Zogbia and Kozak look to be surplus to requirements, that's still Ayew, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil, Grealish, Gestede and Traore to fit into 3 attacking positions.
Blimey. Even allowing for the fact that N'Zogbia and Kozak look to be surplus to requirements, that's still Ayew, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil, Grealish, Gestede and Traore to fit into 3 attacking positions.
And Joe Cole. Not sure which side of the list he is suppose to go on.
Blimey. Even allowing for the fact that N'Zogbia and Kozak look to be surplus to requirements, that's still Ayew, Gabby, Sinclair, Gil, Grealish, Gestede and Traore to fit into 3 attacking positions.
I'd be disapointed to see Kozak go. If he does, I hope it's only on loan because there's a very good goalscorer there.
As for this Traore, I know you shouldn't get carried away by you tube clips but he looks bleeding great.
If we can get this kid, and say Lescott, it would be the best transfer window in a very long time. I thought tht "Tactics Tim" was just going to buy a load of Spurs rejects and get them to run around a bit.
It seems like we're assembling a squad that is both promising and sensible.
If we can get this kid, and say Lescott, it would be the best transfer window in a very long time. I thought tht "Tactics Tim" was just going to buy a load of Spurs rejects and get them to run around a bit.
Do Barcelonas B team play in Spains third tier?
the best summer signing bar none if it happens
Do Barcelonas B team play in Spains third tier?
Second tier.
If we can get this kid, and say Lescott, it would be the best transfer window in a very long time. I thought tht "Tactics Tim" was just going to buy a load of Spurs rejects and get them to run around a bit.
He's pursued a kind of violently sensible transfer policy. It's all very impressive.
He looks intelligent, which will take some getting used to. Also, why are all YouTube player videos accompanied by the worst dance music available to humanity?
Do Barcelonas B team play in Spains third tier?
Second tier.
I think they were relegated from the second tier a couple of seasons ago
the best summer signing bar none if it happens
Best summer signing ever. Honestly, looking back, I can't think of a signing we've made that really excited me. This however could be the one that changes all that. He looks like he's from another planet. 3 year contract with an additional one year option? Looks very good and smart business.
It's almost like Tim has used his Brain, surrounded himself with people who have really sound knowledge of the game, good scouts and then trusted then to get the right players. Itv is like he really does have a plan. Such a refreshing change. Please let this one come off.
Express and Talksport both saying it's agreedWell, they're only reporting that other people (the articles quoted earlier in the thread) say that it's agreed.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/597554/Barcelona-winger-snubs-Liverpool-Stoke-Aston-Villa-Adama-Traore-latest-transfer-news
Do Barcelonas B team play in Spains third tier?
Second tier.
I think they were relegated from the second tier a couple of seasons ago
Interesting scouting report on Adama (http://www.espnfc.com/blog/scouts-notebook/78/post/2557924/barcelona-adama-traore-set-to-shine-in-the-premier-league). Not the finished product but obviously has bags of potential.
Is Adama going to be our first Galactica?
It's almost like Tim has used his Brain, surrounded himself with people who have really sound knowledge of the game, good scouts and then trusted then to get the right players. Itv is like he really does have a plan. Such a refreshing change. Please let this one come off.
Over the weekend Sherwood was saying that he has a mate from Spurs that not only knows everything about every player but more importantly what players Sherwood likes. The scouts tell him the names of the players and he'll tell them if Sherwood will want them or not.
Not sure who his mate is but he must be working for us. Anybody know who he is?
Sherwood has suggested that Gil's best position might be as the elusive, mysterious number 10.
Sherwood has suggested that Gil's best position might be as the elusive, mysterious number 10.
In who hole you say?
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.it would be great to watch indeed! However, at our most expensive summer signing, I think Ayew is a destined starter for a bit.
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.it would be great to watch indeed! However, at our most expensive summer signing, I think Ayew is a destined starter for a bit.
Sherwood has suggested that Gil's best position might be as the elusive, mysterious number 10.
.It's almost like Tim has used his Brain, surrounded himself with people who have really sound knowledge of the game, good scouts and then trusted then to get the right players. Itv is like he really does have a plan. Such a refreshing change. Please let this one come off.
Over the weekend Sherwood was saying that he has a mate from Spurs that not only knows everything about every player but more importantly what players Sherwood likes. The scouts tell him the names of the players and he'll tell them if Sherwood will want them or not.
Not sure who his mate is but he must be working for us. Anybody know who he is?
'arry?
Catalan newspaper 'Sport' saying that Adama Taore "could fly to England in a matter of hours" to sign for the Villa. They report that the fee is Approx 12 mil euros, with no buy back clause. Good, if true, but the operative word here is "might "...........Godzilla!
I will cry if true. He looks a fucking amazing player.
Please be true.
AS reporting it...
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/11/primera/1439285875_964302.html?ref=rss&format=simple&link=link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Which translates as
Adama Traoré, who plays for Barcelona B, will play next season in the Premier League. Despite the interest from Liverpool and Stoke City, the squad has finally opted for Aston Villa. Adama, 19, signed for three seasons with another option.
The Spanish player of Malian descent is one of the pearls of the current blaugrana quarry. However, unlike Munir or Sandro, the end has not been called to make the preseason with the first team, why the player has decided to look for another club site in minutes you can enjoy the highest level.
Adama pass medical examination this Tuesday to stamp his contract with the villains. Villa Park will be challenged to demonstrate what their true level.
.It's almost like Tim has used his Brain, surrounded himself with people who have really sound knowledge of the game, good scouts and then trusted then to get the right players. Itv is like he really does have a plan. Such a refreshing change. Please let this one come off.
Over the weekend Sherwood was saying that he has a mate from Spurs that not only knows everything about every player but more importantly what players Sherwood likes. The scouts tell him the names of the players and he'll tell them if Sherwood will want them or not.
Not sure who his mate is but he must be working for us. Anybody know who he is?
'arry?
Seamus ... I forget his last name.
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.
Swap one of Gil or Grealish with Sinclair and we'd be in business.
Veretout Gueye
Traore Gil / Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.
Swap one of Gil or Grealish with Sinclair and we'd be in business.
Veretout Gueye
Traore Gil / Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
that's a bit defensive. I was thinking more
Guzan
Richards Clarke
Gueye
Traore Gil Vertout Praet Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
no room for overlapping full backs :-)
that's a bit defensive. I was thinking more
Guzan
Richards Clarke
Gueye
Traore Gil Vertout Praet Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
no room for overlapping full backs :-)
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.
Swap one of Gil or Grealish with Sinclair and we'd be in business.
Veretout Gueye
Traore Gil / Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
that's a bit defensive. I was thinking more
Guzan
Richards Clarke
Gueye
Traore Gil Vertout Praet Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
no room for overlapping full backs :-)
Imagine Grealish Gil and Traore as the 3 behind Gestede with Veretout and Gueye holding. We would be ace to watch. Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew all in the mix on the bench. Mid table might even be achievable.
Swap one of Gil or Grealish with Sinclair and we'd be in business.
Veretout Gueye
Traore Gil / Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
that's a bit defensive. I was thinking more
Guzan
Richards Clarke
Gueye
Traore Gil Vertout Praet Grealish Sinclair
Gestede
no room for overlapping full backs :-)
Have we bought another central defender then? Who is this bloke Clarke?
Interesting scouting report on Adama (http://www.espnfc.com/blog/scouts-notebook/78/post/2557924/barcelona-adama-traore-set-to-shine-in-the-premier-league). Not the finished product but obviously has bags of potential.
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Nii Lamptey according to BFR was going to be the new Pele. We seen how that one worked out. I don't want to decry any of our new signings and really hope all of them live up to the hype but let's be honest, a few weeks from now as history has repeatedly shown, for some of them "shite" will become the adjective when making reference.
Torygraph says Redscouse are in for him ...
I refuse to get excited by this one as i'm sure someone will nip in and beat us to his signature
It's a mentality thing. After years of being frankly full as ditch water in the market when we start trying to buy really exciting players we are quick to remember Ferdinand and Bergkamp being whisked from our grasp.
Guzan
Bacuna Richards Clark Amavi
Veretout Gueye
Traore Ayew Sinclair
Guzan
Bacuna Richards Clark Amavi
Veretout Gueye
Traore Ayew Sinclair
Don't want to be a miserable bastard here, but - after years of false dawns and loads of absolutely shit unknown buys by Lambert - I'm a bit of a cynic. Has anyone actually seen this fella play? other than his highlights on Yow Tube.
Is he any good or are we just assuming that, because he's from Barcelona's reserves, he must be.
Serious question
Chris Jameson's son rates him so that's good enough for me.
Here we go, fuck off Liverpool.
Guzan
Bacuna Richards Clark Amavi
Veretout Gueye
Traore Ayew Sinclair
Yep - we're so bad ass we only field 10 players to give other sides a chance!
Here we go, fuck off Liverpool.
Where would he fit in a Liverpool attacking position with Firmino, Benteke, Sturridge, Lallana, Coutinho and Ings. Not even including Origi, Balotelli and Borini in the list. There doesn't seem to be much game time at all.
Torygraph says Redscouse are in for him ...
I refuse to get excited by this one as i'm sure someone will nip in and beat us to his signature
Another African though?
Another African though?
He's going to play for Spain so no problems with ACoN I think.
Barca sporting director Robert Fernandez has previously revealed Adama has a €6m release clause.
Why is the fee being reported as 12M ?QuoteBarca sporting director Robert Fernandez has previously revealed Adama has a €6m release clause.
Which would, I assume, equate to the £4m mentioned earlier ??
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.Who apart from Adama would be Mali?
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
Why is the fee being reported as 12M ?QuoteBarca sporting director Robert Fernandez has previously revealed Adama has a €6m release clause.
Which would, I assume, equate to the £4m mentioned earlier ??
Isn't it only being reported as £12m by the Daily Mail? Who shouldnt' be relied on for anything other than pictures of footballers' girlfriends on holiday.
Everywhere else seems to be saying around £4m.
But isn't this geezer a Spanish U19 international?
But isn't this geezer a Spanish U19 international?
yes, he qualifies for Spain. Though with a last name like that he could declare for a senior team elsewhere right? French even if he has any links there?
But he has declared that he's going to play his international football for Mali*.But isn't this geezer a Spanish U19 international?
yes, he qualifies for Spain. Though with a last name like that he could declare for a senior team elsewhere right? French even if he has any links there?
He doesn't just qualify, he was born there.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=54042.msg2885517#msg2885517
;)
Whatever, bring 'em on I say. Worrying about the African cup of nations - a biannual event that could take players out for about 3 games, if they qualify - strikes me as the epitome of 'glass half emptiness'. I love the fact we're getting a fair few quality, young players in on long-ish contracts. If s couple of them bugger off for a few weeks, a year in January, so be it.
According to Twitter (yes, I know) the two different prices could be down to whether or not a buy-back clause for Barca is included. ie. With a clause its £6m. Without one its £12m.
Just watched a highlights reel on Youtube and, aside from him looking a bit of alright, the closing caption of the video said "Welcome to Liverpool 2015/16" with a picture of the Liverpool badge.
Oops
As reporting this is a done deal now: http://as.com/diarioas/2015/08/11/english/1439288484_250702.html
Then again, that paper is just one S away from being "ass"... so who knows the accuracy.
No wingers and no number 10 for years and then suddenly we seem to have a bus full of them.
It's all rather strange isn't it? What's also odd is for years we get linked with the same old shit year on and this summer we get links to these young starlets and we're actually getting them. What's that all anout?
Telegraph 7 hours ago
By Telegraph Sport2:32PM BST 11 Aug 2015
Liverpool Football Club
Liverpool transfer news and rumours
Liverpool will not give up on Barcelona youngster Adama Traore and will make their move for the 19-year-old this month.
Traore has been linked with a host of Premier League clubs over recent weeks with Liverpool facing competition from Stoke, Everton and Aston Villa for his signature.
Stoke manager Mark Hughes revealed that the club have held talks with Traore over a move but it appears his bid to land the player could be scuppered by Liverpool's interest.
According to the Metro, Brendan Rodgers will make an offer for the young winger in the coming weeks.
According to the Metro, Brendan Rodgers will make an offer for the young winger in the coming weeks.That's your problem, right there.
Telegraph 7 hours ago
By Telegraph Sport2:32PM BST 11 Aug 2015
Liverpool Football Club
Liverpool transfer news and rumours
Liverpool will not give up on Barcelona youngster Adama Traore and will make their move for the 19-year-old this month.
Traore has been linked with a host of Premier League clubs over recent weeks with Liverpool facing competition from Stoke, Everton and Aston Villa for his signature.
Stoke manager Mark Hughes revealed that the club have held talks with Traore over a move but it appears his bid to land the player could be scuppered by Liverpool's interest.
According to the Metro, Brendan Rodgers will make an offer for the young winger in the coming weeks.
Just watched the clips of this lad and he will confuse the hell out of the rest of our players. What is this running with the ball and taking players on???would confuse the old guard, suspect by end of august there maybe 2-3 left in team from our gallant relegation battlers ;)
Ok good and I don't have a problem with a Barcelona buy back option after 3 years. That's some serious incentive for the lad to perform week in week out .Good point.
Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
Fair enough, though to be fair Messi does the odd "give and go" ;)Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
Nobody moans when Messi does it! ;)
I think once he's at the byline he's a different animal, definitely great at providing assists from there but bloody hell he's gonna try and get there by himself!Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
On the one I watched it was noticeable how unselfish he was, crossing to people in better positions when he could have gone for a worldly.
Yes I think it's what sets Barcelona's stars apart they are generally great team players despite being stupendously skilful to boot. Still Traore looks a brilliant prospect and look forward to seeing him on the pitch to prove me wrong!Watched 30 seconds of his highlight reel.. he's better than anyone on our team.The one criticism I would have from his clips, he looks a bit like the kid at school who is ten times better than everyone else and NEVER PASSES THE BLOODY BALL! Some of those dribbles are great and stupid/pointless in equal measure.
That might just be immaturity and he is 19. With a bit more experience, he might learn when to pass and when to take someone on. That's probably why Barcelona aren't looking to keep him though. Their players that can take people on know when to pass too.
That might just be immaturity and he is 19. With a bit more experience, he might learn when to pass and when to take someone on. That's probably why Barcelona aren't looking to keep him though.Who says they're not looking to keep him? He's a reserve team player with a release clause in his contract (which by all accounts we're willing to meet), who doesn't want to play in the third tier next year but does want to play first-team football.
That might just be immaturity and he is 19. With a bit more experience, he might learn when to pass and when to take someone on. That's probably why Barcelona aren't looking to keep him though.Who says they're not looking to keep him? He's a reserve team player with a release clause in his contract (which by all accounts we're willing to meet), who doesn't want to play in the third tier next year but does want to play first-team football.
That doesn't mean that they want rid of him.
Don't know if we're all watching the same videos but I've seen quite a few clips of him tracking back and putting in some great tackles. Can he play right back?
On the Stoke Oafcake forum they reckon if they'd have signed Traore that they would "loan him to a club like Villa"! Getting a bit above their station aren't they??
Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
We're currently in a bidding war with Stoke and Liverpool.Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
Can they demand more than the release clause value though?
On the Stoke Oafcake forum they reckon if they'd have signed Traore that they would "loan him to a club like Villa"! Getting a bit above their station aren't they??
On twitter they think that once he lands in the UK they are going to hijack the deal as they are the bigger club.
I went to Stoke once, it is a hole.
We're currently in a bidding war with Stoke and Liverpool.Apparently his release clause is 6m euros, which would equate to around £4.2m.Howard Hodgson has tweeted the fee as £4.2m done deal
Surely that's just the up front bit and there will be add ons. The kid looks insanely good.
And as we've all learned over the summer, if there's a release clause then it's difficult to negotiate too much more around it.
Can they demand more than the release clause value though?
For contrast here is the equivalent video of Everton's chap from Barcelona:
I'd say the Traore one is at least as good and Everton are delighted to have signed him on a permanent deal (I think).
I quite like Trentham Monkey Forest. That's near Stoke. Wouldn't recommend it to Traore though as, being Spanish, the Barbary Macaques would undoubtedly make him really angry by taunting him about Gibraltar's constitutional status.
I quite like Trentham Monkey Forest. That's near Stoke. Wouldn't recommend it to Traore though as, being Spanish, the Barbary Macaques would undoubtedly make him really angry by taunting him about Gibraltar's constitutional status.
My nose uncle once took me in a stolen car to a safari park. Baboons removed and ate his windscreen wipers. As a season ticket holder he must have been used to that sort of thing.
I quite like Trentham Monkey Forest. That's near Stoke. Wouldn't recommend it to Traore though as, being Spanish, the Barbary Macaques would undoubtedly make him really angry by taunting him about Gibraltar's constitutional status.
My nose uncle once took me in his car to the sty. The locals removed and ate his windscreen wipers. As a season ticket holder he must have been used to that sort of thing.
For contrast here is the equivalent video of Everton's chap from Barcelona:
I'd say the Traore one is at least as good and Everton are delighted to have signed him on a permanent deal (I think).
On the Stoke Oafcake forum they reckon if they'd have signed Traore that they would "loan him to a club like Villa"! Getting a bit above their station aren't they??First Albion, then Leicester , now Stoke, all lining up too take pots at their good looking well hung neighbour, fuck off ugly pin dicks, fuck off!
On the Stoke Oafcake forum they reckon if they'd have signed Traore that they would "loan him to a club like Villa"! Getting a bit above their station aren't they??First Albion, then Leicester , now Stoke, all lining up too take pots at their good looking well hung neighbour, fuck off ugly pin dicks, fuck off!
Stoke can shove Shaqiri up their arse. And he looks quite stocky so quite a bit of girth. Like a jam jar.
You would think he will get a lot more game time with us than he would at Liverpool, which is obviously what he is after as otherwise you'd stay at Barca.
As ever when linked strongly to a player that looks bloody good, I am convinced he will go elsewhere.
As ever when linked strongly to a player that looks bloody good, I am convinced he will go elsewhere.
As ever when linked strongly to a player that looks bloody good, I am convinced he will go elsewhere.
Yep.
Would Pedro departing affect the deal? Theoretically it might bump Traore up a place in the rank and mean he is closer to the Barca first team.
From what I have read he has not trained at all pre-season - or at least been excluded from the main sessions - so I suspect that he would still be a few players away from getting into the squad.
they'll sign him back for ~£8m and sell him on for more.
they'll sign him back for ~£8m and sell him on for more.
What if two clubs want to buy him back ?
Would Pedro departing affect the deal? Theoretically it might bump Traore up a place in the rank and mean he is closer to the Barca first team.
From what I have read he has not trained at all pre-season - or at least been excluded from the main sessions - so I suspect that he would still be a few players away from getting into the squad.
Don't think so. This move is very much part of his development - we pay for him on the cheap and pay his wages, and Barca can sign him back on the cheap at any point during his contract with us.
If we want to sign him to a new deal we'll need to renegotiate with Barca. We're OK to sell him elsewhere, but Barca will have to be notified.
Ultimately, this is a loan that can be cut short at any time. If he does well, but not well enough for Barca, they'll sign him back for ~£8m and sell him on for more.
Why are people now thinking he won't come?
As ever when linked strongly to a player that looks bloody good, I am convinced he will go elsewhere.
Ditto I suspect we might end up disappointed.
Why are people now thinking he won't come?
Brummie pessimism.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
How about Joey Barton?
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I hope we sign him he looks a really good player.
I hope we sign him he looks a really good player.
yes
I hope we sign him he looks a really good player.
yes
this
I hope we sign him he looks a really good player.
yes
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I hope we sign him he looks a really good player.
yes
In depth reporting there from our top journalist
If they had a few more Darrens and a few less Greggs, they'd be well set.
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
It's not on facebook.com?Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Damn I thought Francis Benali had turned into Mr BigMedical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
DanlanzaMedical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Whose facebook, though?
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
Dammit TV, I just got this shirt cleaned. Now it's got tea on it again from me laughing at your above post.
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!
DanlanzaMedical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Whose facebook, though?
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!Wait til we play Nor-wich then...as an aside, my favorite joke is to tell them July 4th is Thanksgiving in England :)
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!Wait til we play Nor-wich then...as an aside, my favorite joke is to tell them July 4th is Thanksgiving in England :)
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
Dammit TV, I just got this shirt cleaned. Now it's got tea on it again from me laughing at your above post.
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!
Medical passed this morning according to fb.
fb?
I'm guessing Facebook.
Correct.
Whose facebook, though?
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
Dammit TV, I just got this shirt cleaned. Now it's got tea on it again from me laughing at your above post.
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!
Talking of which, there's that urban legend about when an Aussie turned up in Leicester and asked how to get to Loogabarooga.
Or Loughborough as we call it.
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
Dammit TV, I just got this shirt cleaned. Now it's got tea on it again from me laughing at your above post.
Funny enough, I had to pronounce Bournemouth several times for my American friends to fully get it. And I'll forever be telling them how to say "Leicester". It's not that hard!
Talking of which, there's that urban legend about when an Aussie turned up in Leicester and asked how to get to Loogabarooga.
Or Loughborough as we call it.
That's a Carrott joke about yanks.
The best one for any of you lot who've been to the U.S. is getting them to pronounce Worcestershire sauce. It's an abomination like no other.
La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonuses
The best one for any of you lot who've been to the U.S. is getting them to pronounce Worcestershire sauce. It's an abomination like no other.
La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonuses
La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonusesJust saw that.."All that's missing are the signatures."
Have you been a Villa fan long? Good things happen rarely. Good players don't all arrive and play together at the same time. A joined up genuinely planned approach is for other clubs. We need a Hardwood and Bowery to temper the fell good vine that's letting people think good players will keep coming.
I'm from across the Atlantic and decided to follow a Premier League soccer franchise. All my buddies support clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal. I wanted a team that wins. So on Monday I decided I picked your team, Aston Villa. Been exciting so far, lots of players coming in through the draft and we won our game against a team I can't pronounce. Is it always like this?
The best one for any of you lot who've been to the U.S. is getting them to pronounce Worcestershire sauce. It's an abomination like no other.
Yep I know a guy from Indiana and the first time I heard him say it was - wooooo-oer-cesersterireshire sauce
in a hat....and then I'm struggling :)La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonuses
IAHAAJAATA.
in a hat....and then I'm struggling :)La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonuses
IAHAAJAATA.
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The Doc
In a hat and a jumper and a tie alsoin a hat....and then I'm struggling :)La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonuses
IAHAAJAATA.
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The Doc
Good start...
At airport
At airport
Off on your hols?
Er...which airport though? Better not beJohn Lennon!
La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonusesJust saw that.."All that's missing are the signatures."
Er...which airport though? Better not beJohn Lennon!
Staverton
Just to clarify, I'm not picking up crack nor am I anywhere near Staverton.Do you seriuosly think that the police and HMRC are going to believe that? Especially after they filmed a Colombian disguised as Juan Pablo Angel leaving your house the other night. :)
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
Keep us updated John.
Er...which airport though? Better not beJohn Lennon!
Staverton
You mean Worcestershire Airport. No such thing as Staverton Airport.
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
Keep us updated John.
Top back on, to many pervo's about
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
That so unfair on those of us who look solely for artistic inspirationI'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
Keep us updated John.
Top back on, to many pervo's about
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
Keep us updated John.
Top back on, to many pervo's about
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
Keep us updated John.
Top back on, to many pervo's about
Perhaps she's on here and realised you were talking about her?
I'm in Spain, well Ibiza actually
Nothing to report from here, but then i am laid out in front of the pool with only my mobile so don't be holding your breath for any breaking news
Although there is a good looking lady in front of me just taken her top off, so I might stick around a bit longer
I think this needs its own thread. Pictures?
In a hat at a jaunty angle at the airport?
La Gazetta dello Sport reporting he's passed the medical. 10m euros with a further 2m in bonusesJust saw that.."All that's missing are the signatures."
Er...which airport though? Better not beJohn Lennon!
Staverton
You mean Worcestershire Airport. No such thing as Staverton Airport.
Or Gloucestershire Airport, even ;)
he's even had the photos done according to someone on VT, yet nothing! This is all silly season bollocks isn't it?
he's even had the photos done according to someone on VT, yet nothing! This is all silly season bollocks isn't it?
he's even had the photos done according to someone on VT, yet nothing! This is all silly season bollocks isn't it?
That fake account on Twitter, whispers_listen reported that Adebayor had the photos taken at Bodymoor yet everyone took it as gospel.
Didn't Sherwood confirm Adebayor had been at Bodymoor?he's even had the photos done according to someone on VT, yet nothing! This is all silly season bollocks isn't it?
That fake account on Twitter, whispers_listen reported that Adebayor had the photos taken at Bodymoor yet everyone took it as gospel.
Those pictures were genuine I think.
he's even had the photos done according to someone on VT, yet nothing! This is all silly season bollocks isn't it?
That fake account on Twitter, whispers_listen reported that Adebayor had the photos taken at Bodymoor yet everyone took it as gospel.
Those pictures were genuine I think.
I mean official in the shirt photos.
Didn't Sherwood confirm Adebayor had been at Bodymoor?
There was no way I was going to get that :)...In a hat at a jaunty angle at the airport?
Bingo!
There was no way I was going to get that :)...In a hat at a jaunty angle at the airport?
Bingo!
AVPONTPIAHSTS
sounds like some sort of disease a nose would use as an excuse not to frequent the palace of despair :)
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The Doc
where's that long range camera bloke when you need him that captured the picture of Veretout stretching the top at Villa Park? That was top ITK. Surely he can get one of Traore.
Graham Hunter was just talking about him and said we should be very excited if we sign him. Didn't really give an indication as to whether he thought it would happen though.
With Aston Villa reported to be closing in on a deal for Barcelona winger Adama Traore, Sky Sports’ Spanish football expert Graham Hunter has offered fans good reason to be excited about his potential arrival.
Speaking to Sky Sports News HQ, Hunter gave the former Spain Under-19 international a ringing endorsement and labelled him the kind of signing that will have Villa supporters off their seats.
“He’s potentially exceptional,” said Hunter. “This is the kind of player who explains why people buy season tickets and why Sky have invested in the Premier League again.
“He’s frighteningly exciting. He runs at players, goes past players and has the potential to do things which should be the provenance of a man with the size and centre of gravity of Lionel Messi.
“But, no, he’s like a well-built middle-weight boxer. He’s gifted, hugely thrilling and will unsettle defences.
“The slight clause you have to put is that this is a developing boy of 19, but he’s immensely impressive,” he added. “If Villa pull this deal off, the fans will be ecstatic with the board and with Tim Sherwood.
“He is the type of player who can be something of a remedy to the fact that Villa fans have not only been threatened with relegation but haven’t had excitement.
“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways. He is a beautiful talent and it will be very exciting if he goes to that club.”
Traore, known as Adama, was born in Barcelona to Malian parents and joined the Catalan giants in 2004 at the age of eight following a brief spell at neighbouring CE L'Hospitalet.
The 5ft 10in attacker has since risen through the ranks to emerge as one of the club’s top prospects, although he has made just four senior appearances over the past two seasons due to strong competition for places.
Nevertheless, he has established himself as one of Barcelona B’s star performers in that period, racking up eight goals and 18 assists in 63 games in the Spanish second division, while recording an incredible 243 successful dribbles last term – 63 more than anyone else in Europe [h/t Opta].
However, the time has now come for him to taste top-flight action in a major league and, according the likes of Telegraph, Villa look like the club that will offer him the chance to make that next step in his career.
SEE ALSO: Sherwood explains why Aston Villa summer signing has him excited
The Telegraph’s report claims that the claret and blues have emerged as the front-runners for his signature over rivals suitors such as Liverpool and Stoke and are now putting the finishing touches to a £7 million deal, which could be completed later this week.
The 19-year-old’s contract will also reportedly contain a buy-back clause on Barca’s insistence but, given the plaudits he has received from the likes of Hunter, that seems like a gamble well worth taking if it means securing the services of one of Europe’s most exciting talents.
Graham Hunter was just talking about him and said we should be very excited if we sign him. Didn't really give an indication as to whether he thought it would happen though.QuoteWith Aston Villa reported to be closing in on a deal for Barcelona winger Adama Traore, Sky Sports’ Spanish football expert Graham Hunter has offered fans good reason to be excited about his potential arrival.
Speaking to Sky Sports News HQ, Hunter gave the former Spain Under-19 international a ringing endorsement and labelled him the kind of signing that will have Villa supporters off their seats.
“He’s potentially exceptional,” said Hunter. “This is the kind of player who explains why people buy season tickets and why Sky have invested in the Premier League again.
“He’s frighteningly exciting. He runs at players, goes past players and has the potential to do things which should be the provenance of a man with the size and centre of gravity of Lionel Messi.
“But, no, he’s like a well-built middle-weight boxer. He’s gifted, hugely thrilling and will unsettle defences.
“The slight clause you have to put is that this is a developing boy of 19, but he’s immensely impressive,” he added. “If Villa pull this deal off, the fans will be ecstatic with the board and with Tim Sherwood.
“He is the type of player who can be something of a remedy to the fact that Villa fans have not only been threatened with relegation but haven’t had excitement.
“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways. He is a beautiful talent and it will be very exciting if he goes to that club.”
Traore, known as Adama, was born in Barcelona to Malian parents and joined the Catalan giants in 2004 at the age of eight following a brief spell at neighbouring CE L'Hospitalet.
The 5ft 10in attacker has since risen through the ranks to emerge as one of the club’s top prospects, although he has made just four senior appearances over the past two seasons due to strong competition for places.
Nevertheless, he has established himself as one of Barcelona B’s star performers in that period, racking up eight goals and 18 assists in 63 games in the Spanish second division, while recording an incredible 243 successful dribbles last term – 63 more than anyone else in Europe [h/t Opta].
However, the time has now come for him to taste top-flight action in a major league and, according the likes of Telegraph, Villa look like the club that will offer him the chance to make that next step in his career.
SEE ALSO: Sherwood explains why Aston Villa summer signing has him excited
The Telegraph’s report claims that the claret and blues have emerged as the front-runners for his signature over rivals suitors such as Liverpool and Stoke and are now putting the finishing touches to a £7 million deal, which could be completed later this week.
The 19-year-old’s contract will also reportedly contain a buy-back clause on Barca’s insistence but, given the plaudits he has received from the likes of Hunter, that seems like a gamble well worth taking if it means securing the services of one of Europe’s most exciting talents.
Graham Hunter was just talking about him and said we should be very excited if we sign him. Didn't really give an indication as to whether he thought it would happen though.QuoteWith Aston Villa reported to be closing in on a deal for Barcelona winger Adama Traore, Sky Sports’ Spanish football expert Graham Hunter has offered fans good reason to be excited about his potential arrival.
Speaking to Sky Sports News HQ, Hunter gave the former Spain Under-19 international a ringing endorsement and labelled him the kind of signing that will have Villa supporters off their seats.
“He’s potentially exceptional,” said Hunter. “This is the kind of player who explains why people buy season tickets and why Sky have invested in the Premier League again.
“He’s frighteningly exciting. He runs at players, goes past players and has the potential to do things which should be the provenance of a man with the size and centre of gravity of Lionel Messi.
“But, no, he’s like a well-built middle-weight boxer. He’s gifted, hugely thrilling and will unsettle defences.
“The slight clause you have to put is that this is a developing boy of 19, but he’s immensely impressive,” he added. “If Villa pull this deal off, the fans will be ecstatic with the board and with Tim Sherwood.
“He is the type of player who can be something of a remedy to the fact that Villa fans have not only been threatened with relegation but haven’t had excitement.
“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways. He is a beautiful talent and it will be very exciting if he goes to that club.”
Traore, known as Adama, was born in Barcelona to Malian parents and joined the Catalan giants in 2004 at the age of eight following a brief spell at neighbouring CE L'Hospitalet.
The 5ft 10in attacker has since risen through the ranks to emerge as one of the club’s top prospects, although he has made just four senior appearances over the past two seasons due to strong competition for places.
Nevertheless, he has established himself as one of Barcelona B’s star performers in that period, racking up eight goals and 18 assists in 63 games in the Spanish second division, while recording an incredible 243 successful dribbles last term – 63 more than anyone else in Europe [h/t Opta].
However, the time has now come for him to taste top-flight action in a major league and, according the likes of Telegraph, Villa look like the club that will offer him the chance to make that next step in his career.
SEE ALSO: Sherwood explains why Aston Villa summer signing has him excited
The Telegraph’s report claims that the claret and blues have emerged as the front-runners for his signature over rivals suitors such as Liverpool and Stoke and are now putting the finishing touches to a £7 million deal, which could be completed later this week.
The 19-year-old’s contract will also reportedly contain a buy-back clause on Barca’s insistence but, given the plaudits he has received from the likes of Hunter, that seems like a gamble well worth taking if it means securing the services of one of Europe’s most exciting talents.
Quote“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways"
Quote“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways"
Lettuce hope that the story is true then.
It had been like that in last 48 hours so wtf going on and where the photos of the lady please ;) Did you know your phone can take photos ;)
Let's hope Adama is introduced to the fans at VP at the game on Friday.
I'll be cressfallen if it falls through now.Quote“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways"
Lettuce hope that the story is true then.
It'll be a turnip for the books if Villa sign him
I'll be cressfallen if it falls through now.Quote“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways"
Lettuce hope that the story is true then.
It'll be a turnip for the books if Villa sign him
I'll be cressfallen if it falls through now.Quote“Adama represents that in 24 carrot ways"
Lettuce hope that the story is true then.
It'll be a turnip for the books if Villa sign him
We need to squash this vegetable punning
Breaking on Sky now. Deal expected to be completed tomorrow
Breaking on Sky now. Deal expected to be completed tomorrow
We don't know how this is all going to pan out but isn't it great to be so excited during a transfer window and finally acting like a big, 21st century club. Proper scouting. Identifying markets where our purchasing power is greatest.
Breaking on Sky now. Deal expected to be completed tomorrow
I herb it'll be announced at 5 tomorrow.
I herb it'll be announced at 5 tomorrow.
AM or PM?
I herb it'll be announced at 5 tomorrow.
AM or PM?
Whoosh...
With signings as crowd pleasing as this, there wont be mushroom in the Holte for our next game.
I herb it'll be announced at 5 tomorrow.
AM or PM?
Whoosh...
Yeah I thought that but it was the shitness of the pun that did me not the intellectual calibre.
I herb it'll be announced at 5 tomorrow.
AM or PM?
Whoosh...
Yeah I thought that but it was the shitness of the pun that did me not the intellectual calibre.
Puns have to be shit don't they?
If this all works out, they'll be making a film about Sherwood. Cue Cumberbatch to play the lead role
With signings as crowd pleasing as this, there wont be mushroom in the Holte for our next game.
It will be a squash
If this all works out, they'll be making a film about Sherwood. Cue Cumberbatch to play the lead role
Ouch...
If only you were all geeky enough to do highly relevant Battlestar Galactica puns.
Paddy O'Reilly has absolutely smashed it on his European jaunt. I hope we've booked him somewhere nice ahead of January.
At Villa Park on the pitch in a hat stretching the shirtArse.....im useless at this game.....has Adama been confirmed yet ?
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually glad Benteke has left. It got tedious with the endless speculation. Now we're signing all these potentially exciting young players; it may not all come off, but this window has been one of the best ever for surprises....Agree 100%.
If only you were all geeky enough to do highly relevant Battlestar Galactica puns.
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually glad Benteke has left. It got tedious with the endless speculation. Now we're signing all these potentially exciting young players; it may not all come off, but this window has been one of the best ever for surprises....Agree 100%.
Benteke saw himself bigger than the club which is an untenable scenario.
If these players play to their potential they will be squeezing more people in and there will be no legume at VP for all the fans trying to watch the games.
We have certainly got scouts now that know their onions.
Adama, have you pak choi bags yet?
Aubergining to think this might happen.
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
What I reckon they want to do is to introduce him to the packed stadium on Friday night
before the match starts to get the crowd going.
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
Subtle.
Rumours now sprout-ing everywhere
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
Subtle.
I've read it about a dozen times, and I know, *know*, there's a pun there, I just can't see it.
I feel defeated.
Why would Barcelona let go of such a good player????
Makes no sense.
Why would Barcelona let go of such a good player????
Makes no sense.
Players over there have to have a release clause in their contract and to our benefit, his makes good value. The Barcelona B side got relegated last season too and he doesn't want to drop down a division.
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
Subtle.
I've read it about a dozen times, and I know, *know*, there's a pun there, I just can't see it.
I feel defeated.
I've finally got it. You'll kick yourself Paulie.beetroot
Because they have one or two half-decent players anyway, and because, under Spanish rules, all players have a release clause. If you meet it, there's nothing they can do.
Because they have one or two half-decent players anyway, and because, under Spanish rules, all players have a release clause. If you meet it, there's nothing they can do.
But what happens if two sides go for him and one offers more than the clause?
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
Subtle.
I've read it about a dozen times, and I know, *know*, there's a pun there, I just can't see it.
I feel defeated.
I've finally got it. You'll kick yourself Paulie.beetrootsweet baby Jesus and the orphans! That's terrible but also very good.
At this time? I thought only Mourinho treated his medical staff badly.It's what the Tory Mail are reporting.
They have no choice but to let him go. He has a release clause. Do you just ask questions then ignore the answers?Sorry, point taken. Well him Jack n Gill.... makes for an exciting season. not sure I can take it after the past 5 years of dross!!! Hold on to your seats.
Medical completed.
Bugger all on Sky Sports News
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
Nothing casual I just really really hate black people.
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
Nothing casual I just really really hate black people.
So is no one going to challenge this comment? I can not believe that it has escaped any form of censure from other users or moderators.
Be nice to have him signed and ready for Friday. We could at least put him on the bench to bring on against the Mancs.
Be nice to have him signed and ready for Friday. We could at least put him on the bench to bring on against the Mancs.
Unless Shaw has improved massively as a defender in the last few months I'd love to see someone with this level of skill running at him for the last 20-25 minutes.
This is just like like when we signed a certain French player winger before we played Man Utd.One of my favourite games watching the Villa.Be nice to have him signed and ready for Friday. We could at least put him on the bench to bring on against the Mancs.
Unless Shaw has improved massively as a defender in the last few months I'd love to see someone with this level of skill running at him for the last 20-25 minutes.
3 year contract ? At 12mil is quite steep as he'll just leave after 3 years . Needs a 4 to 5 year contract like WestwoodYes and just think who you would have us buy.
So Mali (if true or it happens), Ghana, maybe Mali, Senegal...not sure I'm too keen on that many Africans in the team who would be potentially first-team players.
Any particular reason, or just a bit of casual racism?
Nothing casual I just really really hate black people.
So is no one going to challenge this comment? I can not believe that it has escaped any form of censure from other users or moderators.
It's a joke. He doesn't really hate black people, he's reacting to the suggestion it was casual racism by playing up to the suggestion.
He's a well known poster on here, who everyone knows is entirely un-racist.
I can understand how a casual user might not understand this context, though.
If only you were all geeky enough to do highly relevant Battlestar Galactica puns.
Is he any good?
Er...which airport though? Better not beJohn Lennon!
Staverton
You mean Worcestershire Airport. No such thing as Staverton Airport.
Or Gloucestershire Airport, even ;)
or even Cheltenham International ?
But Cheltenham is more important globally than Gloucester though....
I still don't accept it could be true - Traore at Villa Park.
Subtle.
I've read it about a dozen times, and I know, *know*, there's a pun there, I just can't see it.
I feel defeated.
I've finally got it. You'll kick yourself Paulie.beetroot
If only you were all geeky enough to do highly relevant Battlestar Galactica puns.
Chill out and get yourself a Starbucks or something.
Adama
Bit of a girl's name that, surely?
So do we actually know how much this release clause is...I've seen figures ranging from £4m to £12m already today. Also if the buy back clause is written into the contract then surely it can't be for the same price we bought him for...or is that likely to be a condition in the original release clause?
So do we actually know how much this release clause is...I've seen figures ranging from £4m to £12m already today. Also if the buy back clause is written into the contract then surely it can't be for the same price we bought him for...or is that likely to be a condition in the original release clause?
I think there is confusion in the media about whether it is Euros or Sterling.
AdamaSays Paulie :)
Bit of a girl's name that, surely?
So do we actually know how much this release clause is...I've seen figures ranging from £4m to £12m already today. Also if the buy back clause is written into the contract then surely it can't be for the same price we bought him for...or is that likely to be a condition in the original release clause?
I think there is confusion in the media about whether it is Euros or Sterling.
Blimey, we're not signing Sterling as well are we?
Have been listening to the Moose on Talk Sport giving the latest transfer news and there was no mention of the Traore deal. All the transfer news seemed to revolve around the dealings of his beloved West Ham. People go on about Paul Franks on WM being useless, believe me compared to the Moose he is a good journalist. Moose is absolutely useless.Well, if you will listen to Tallkshite ...
Have been listening to the Moose on Talk Sport giving the latest transfer news and there was no mention of the Traore deal. All the transfer news seemed to revolve around the dealings of his beloved West Ham. People go on about Paul Franks on WM being useless, believe me compared to the Moose he is a good journalist. Moose is absolutely useless.
So do we actually know how much this release clause is...I've seen figures ranging from £4m to £12m already today. Also if the buy back clause is written into the contract then surely it can't be for the same price we bought him for...or is that likely to be a condition in the original release clause?
I think there is confusion in the media about whether it is Euros or Sterling.
Blimey, we're not signing Sterling as well are we?
That Euros is a good player too, but maybe a bit weak for the premier league.
So do we actually know how much this release clause is...I've seen figures ranging from £4m to £12m already today. Also if the buy back clause is written into the contract then surely it can't be for the same price we bought him for...or is that likely to be a condition in the original release clause?
I think there is confusion in the media about whether it is Euros or Sterling.
Blimey, we're not signing Sterling as well are we?
That Euros is a good player too, but maybe a bit weak for the premier league.
He had a terrible time in Greece.
How about that Yuan guy from China? He looks good value at the moment
Breaking on Sky now. Deal expected to be completed tomorrow
Much as I hate puns, tomarrow you say?
I predict some Delph type thread for this chap in a season or twos time.
Will we know his buy back price until it happens?
He looks like he's great on the ball and a good runner. Be an interesting signing and could arrive today.
I predict some Delph type thread for this chap in a season or twos time.
Will we know his buy back price until it happens?
It's a bit different. It's not like the buy back clause isn't something we're aware of in this case. Also it seems quite standard practice for Barca to insist on a buy back clause. If they choose to activate it he will have done brilliantly for us.
Exactly - a buy back clause is better than a general buy-out clause. At least it is only the best team in the world who can activate it and not Liverpool and their ilk.
I predict some Delph type thread for this chap in a season or twos time.
Will we know his buy back price until it happens?
It's a bit different. It's not like the buy back clause isn't something we're aware of in this case. Also it seems quite standard practice for Barca to insist on a buy back clause. If they choose to activate it he will have done brilliantly for us.
Let's face it, if it turns out to be a glorified loan of one of Barca's bright young talents for a couple of seasons, on top of what we've already signed, it's still a good deal for us. Don't forget we almost get relegated every season!
I predict some Delph type thread for this chap in a season or twos time.
Will we know his buy back price until it happens?
It's a bit different. It's not like the buy back clause isn't something we're aware of in this case. Also it seems quite standard practice for Barca to insist on a buy back clause. If they choose to activate it he will have done brilliantly for us.
Although if they activate it, it doesn't necessarily mean that they think he is good enough for them - it could just as easily mean that they can sell him on for more than the buy-back-clause. So if it's set at £8m and somebody is willing to pay £10m for him, then they just buy him off us and sell him on.
Either way though you're right - they're not going to bother if he ends up spending the next three years in our reserves.
How about that Yuan guy from China? He looks good value at the momentdefinitely yuan for the future
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
I don't understand the embargo as they've bought a couple of players but they can't play for them or anybody else until January 1st.
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
I don't understand the embargo as they've bought a couple of players but they can't play for them or anybody else until January 1st.
That's a common misinterpretation from the press. It's a ban on registering players, not actually signing them. There was never a 'transfer embargo' - that just suits a headline better.
Let's face it, if it turns out to be a glorified loan of one of Barca's bright young talents for a couple of seasons, on top of what we've already signed, it's still a good deal for us. Don't forget we almost get relegated every season!
Every time I see a new post I think he's signed. Hope this hurries up!
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
I don't understand the embargo as they've bought a couple of players but they can't play for them or anybody else until January 1st.
That's a common misinterpretation from the press. It's a ban on registering players, not actually signing them. There was never a 'transfer embargo' - that just suits a headline better.
But ultimately it is the same thing and is probably easier understood than referring to it as a registration embargo.
Exactly - a buy back clause is better than a general buy-out clause. At least it is only the best team in the world who can activate it and not Liverpool and their ilk.
We will come to regret it when we meet them in the Champions League Final and he rips us apart. Will we be happy to say "Ah look at the wonderful development job we finished"?
:D
Every time I see a new post I think he's signed. Hope this hurries up!
You're part of the problem now. Can we just all agree to not post here until it's on the OS?
Every time I see a new post I think he's signed. Hope this hurries up!
You're part of the problem now. Can we just all agree to not post here until it's on the OS?
Every time I see a new post I think he's signed. Hope this hurries up!
You're part of the problem now. Can we just all agree to not post here until it's on the OS?
Agreed.
He looks like he's great on the ball and a good runner. Be an interesting signing and could arrive today.
Let's hope he doesn't get injured otherwise he would have bean a good runner.
For those getting impatient, go back to the Gueye and Veretout threads as examples. The players had signed/taken pics etc good while before the club officially posted it. Yet there was a thousand articles written in between the speculation that they were on the verge of signing and when they actually made it onto the OS.
I hope we pull this transfer off he looks a really good player.
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
I don't understand the embargo as they've bought a couple of players but they can't play for them or anybody else until January 1st.
That's a common misinterpretation from the press. It's a ban on registering players, not actually signing them. There was never a 'transfer embargo' - that just suits a headline better.
But ultimately it is the same thing and is probably easier understood than referring to it as a registration embargo.
Well no, it clearly isn't, if it was a ban on transfers they wouldn't have been able to sign people in preparation for January when they register them, referring to it as a transfer ban when they then go and make signings is just confusing.
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
the "ahem" Gentleman's art pamphlet ?
UTV
The Doc
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
Take it the Barca transfer embargo is just on players in then?
I don't understand the embargo as they've bought a couple of players but they can't play for them or anybody else until January 1st.
That's a common misinterpretation from the press. It's a ban on registering players, not actually signing them. There was never a 'transfer embargo' - that just suits a headline better.
But ultimately it is the same thing and is probably easier understood than referring to it as a registration embargo.
Well no, it clearly isn't, if it was a ban on transfers they wouldn't have been able to sign people in preparation for January when they register them, referring to it as a transfer ban when they then go and make signings is just confusing.
While as if there was a transfer ban, they would simply agree to sign a player post deadline, let them train with the club and pay an additional amount to compensate the player for the lost 6 months wages.
Instead they sign them now and let them train with the club, pay their wages but the player would be unable to play for the club until January.
No difference from between the first and second scenario, apart from the technicalities.
The end result is players would still go to Barca and not play till Jan just like Turan did.
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Welcome To The Black Parade, great albumThere's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Easter Parade, great film
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Easter Parade, great film
Welcome To The Black Parade, great albumThere's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Easter Parade, great film
There's a rumour on Villatalk that he's going to officially be announced and paraded in front of the crowd tomorrow night.
I love a good parade.
Easter Parade, great film
You can't beat a bit of Judy.
I'd like to see a desk and two old school chairs on the pitch with a pen and a contract and him sign in front of the crowd (or pretend to) like in the good old days. He must wear massive flares, a kipper toe and either a suit jacket or afghan coat.
I'd like to see a desk and two old school chairs on the pitch with a pen and a contract and him sign in front of the crowd (or pretend to) like in the good old days. He must wear massive flares, a kipper toe and either a suit jacket or afghan coat.
Before the next home game, I'd like to see him posing with his new club Rover.
Wasn't it Colliers .I'd like to see a desk and two old school chairs on the pitch with a pen and a contract and him sign in front of the crowd (or pretend to) like in the good old days. He must wear massive flares, a kipper toe and either a suit jacket or afghan coat.
Before the next home game, I'd like to see him posing with his new club Rover.
bought from Nicholas J Radcliffe!
I'd like to see a desk and two old school chairs on the pitch with a pen and a contract and him sign in front of the crowd (or pretend to) like in the good old days. He must wear massive flares, a kipper toe and either a suit jacket or afghan coat.And flanked by a couple of photocopiers
Good to know as we do seem to be floundering our way through this deal.
A Kipper Toe eh Chris?
Good to know as we do seem to be floundering our way through this deal.
you're always Carping about something. I think the way we've handled this has been Brill.
Don't worry. Tim's a dab hand now.Good to know as we do seem to be floundering our way through this deal.
you're always Carping about something. I think the way we've handled this has been Brill.
Oi Goby, you should get your herring checked. Cod only knows when this deal with be completed.
Another article on Traore's strengths and weaknesses... nothing too revelatory, but confirms his promise and reinforces that he is not yet a finished product...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546620-why-barcelona-starlet-adama-traore-is-worth-the-premier-league-fuss
Don't worry. Tim's a dab hand now.Good to know as we do seem to be floundering our way through this deal.
you're always Carping about something. I think the way we've handled this has been Brill.
Oi Goby, you should get your herring checked. Cod only knows when this deal with be completed.
Another article on Traore's strengths and weaknesses... nothing too revelatory, but confirms his promise and reinforces that he is not yet a finished product...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546620-why-barcelona-starlet-adama-traore-is-worth-the-premier-league-fuss
I think re the finished product thing, if he already were that, it'd imply he had lived up to his potential, in which case he wouldn't be coming here anyway.
God, I really hope he signs now.
Another article on Traore's strengths and weaknesses... nothing too revelatory, but confirms his promise and reinforces that he is not yet a finished product...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546620-why-barcelona-starlet-adama-traore-is-worth-the-premier-league-fuss
Another article on Traore's strengths and weaknesses... nothing too revelatory, but confirms his promise and reinforces that he is not yet a finished product...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546620-why-barcelona-starlet-adama-traore-is-worth-the-premier-league-fuss
Having a player who can "lower his knees" is something to look forward to! Interesting assessment though, and it should be exciting all round, though clearly he has a lot to learn and we should judge him as a work in progress, and give him as much slack as, say, Grealish.
Inspector Gadget?Another article on Traore's strengths and weaknesses... nothing too revelatory, but confirms his promise and reinforces that he is not yet a finished product...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546620-why-barcelona-starlet-adama-traore-is-worth-the-premier-league-fuss
Having a player who can "lower his knees" is something to look forward to! Interesting assessment though, and it should be exciting all round, though clearly he has a lot to learn and we should judge him as a work in progress, and give him as much slack as, say, Grealish.
This pun thing is fucking carp
Parachute him in at the start of the ManU game. Literally. I want him to parachute onto the center circle at kick off then start playing.
Parachute him in at the start of the ManU game. Literally. I want him to parachute onto the center circle at kick off then start playing.
Parachute him in at the start of the ManU game. Literally. I want him to parachute onto the center circle at kick off then start playing.
That worked so well the last time they tried something like that.
Why isn't it confirmed yet?! Why isn't there a picture of him stretching the shirt?! Why, why WHY?!
He's on FB stretching a shirt
Sorry can't do links.
Sorry it's someone else photoshopped.
Why isn't it confirmed yet?! Why isn't there a picture of him stretching the shirt?! Why, why WHY?!Because they want the maximum publicity.Therefore it will be tomorrow night before a full house..United will feel humbled!
Not just a full house, a global audience of probably 100 million ??Why isn't it confirmed yet?! Why isn't there a picture of him stretching the shirt?! Why, why WHY?!Because they want the maximum publicity.Therefore it will be tomorrow night before a full house..United will feel humbled!
We will not be behind at any stage of the game TV Rockstede will give Daley Blind an evening he will never forget.
Anyone else a bit worried?
Anyone else a bit worried?
If we still had either of the TSMs the team doctor would be Dr Strangelove.
Anyone else a bit worried?
Hold up is waiting for name change to Jordan to go through.Anyone else a bit worried?
Me. He's been signing "tomorrow" for the last three days. How long does he need to write his name?
Anyone else a bit worried?I will admit I'm starting to stress a little bit.
Anyone else a bit worried?I will admit I'm starting to stress a little bit.
Anyone else a bit worried?I will admit I'm starting to stress a little bit.
Keep the faith Ger. Keep the faith.
If this does go through I will start to wonder about a possible sale. Not that we have seen a big summer net buy but we're buying a hell of a lot of potential, including one fro Barcelona who has excited a lot of better informed people, to the point that we have suddenly in one summer managed to put together the best managerial, coaching, scouting, and contract negotiating network, in the space of a couple months. Either Sherwood, or Fox, are absolute geniuses to date or the players and network referred to know something about the club's near future direction.
Anyone else a bit worried?I will admit I'm starting to stress a little bit.
I'm pretty confident he'll sign. He may have already done so.
If it's in the Telegraph, the picture will be him jumping in the air on the steps of a famous public school, holding his a-level results
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11802066/Aston-Villa-transfer-news-Adama-Traore-agrees-7m-deal-from-Barcelona.html
If it's in the Telegraph, the picture will be him jumping in the air on the steps of a famous public school, holding his a-level resultsMore screaming on the news today than when The Beatles played Shay Stadium.
To be fair to myself twitter was saying he had signed.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11802066/Aston-Villa-transfer-news-Adama-Traore-agrees-7m-deal-from-Barcelona.html
So they're not reporting that he's signed?
They say "Adama Traore will become Aston Villa’s tenth summer signing" just like everybody else is saying.
Torygraph reporting he has signed.
Sherwood: "He has a good aura about him".
Torygraph reporting he has signed.
Talk about pissing on our chips. Forget Traore, I'm now more concerned our manager is some New Age hippy twat.QuoteSherwood: "He has a good aura about him".
"Aura"? Wanker! Acid House* has a lot to answer for.
*Invented in London by white chavs to save face.
I don't care when they unveil him as long as he's signed.
Torygraph reporting he has signed.
Talk about pissing on our chips. Forget Traore, I'm now more concerned our manager is some New Age hippy twat.QuoteSherwood: "He has a good aura about him".
"Aura"? Wanker! Acid House* has a lot to answer for.
*Invented in London by white chavs to save face.
Ah, that's where you've gone.
Torygraph reporting he has signed.
Talk about pissing on our chips. Forget Traore, I'm now more concerned our manager is some New Age hippy twat.QuoteSherwood: "He has a good aura about him".
"Aura"? Wanker! Acid House* has a lot to answer for.
*Invented in London by white chavs to save face.
Ah, that's where you've gone.
Shucks. You missed me, Percy?
Just got off the phone with the old fella, trying hard to hold back my utter excitement with this signing. I'm so jeoulous of you lot that will see him play every week.
Born in 1996. Jesus Christ. I think my knees just let out a little whimper of despair.
Born in 1996. Jesus Christ. I think my knees just let out a little whimper of despair.
I'm wearing a T shirt older than that.
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:) :)
This guy could turn out to be a massive massive driving engine for us for the next few years!
I'm chuffed that we've signed him. Really chuffed.
Surely that must be all our signings now??? Or are there more to come??
There is no way that picture was taken today that's for sure.They've shopped his head onto Okores body
There is no way that picture was taken today that's for sure.
Is it Sherwood or Almstadt that has turned this club on it's head?Both
FC Barcelona and Aston Villa FC have reached an agreement for the transfer of Adama Traore for 10 million euros plus two million more if certain conditions are met.
FC Barcelona reserves the right to buy back the player during the first three years of the player’s contract and also has the right of first refusal for any possible future transfer.
The Club wishes to publicly express its gratitude to Adama Traoré for his professionalism and dedication while with the Club, as well as to wish him all the best in the future.
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:) :)
£7 mil being reported
You know there might just be something to the theory that we have a new benefactor behind the scenes
Lets face it considering the club is up for sale and Randy has already dropped his asking price by £50 m it would have been easy enough to pocket the cash as he wants out.
Me thinks exciting times ahead
Wonder when that pic was taken? Not today judging by the weather!Wednesday
There is no way that picture was taken today that's for sure.
That's what I was thinking!
This is exciting news. No comparison with this time last year when we were completely underwhelmed by the signings of Richardson, Senderos and Cole.
Does that mean he's signed in time to go on the bench tonight?Wonder when that pic was taken? Not today judging by the weather!Wednesday
Isn't the buy back clause a pretty standard way of Barcelona conducting transfers away from them??
I can't remember the last time we bought a player from one of the really top clubs in the world.
Sky reporting he's not expected to featureDoes that mean he's signed in time to go on the bench tonight?Wonder when that pic was taken? Not today judging by the weather!Wednesday
Give LVG something to think about!!
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:) :)
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Thanks a lot, Villa. I'm not supposed to be taking football as seriously this season, and now you sign somebody from Barcelona.
Barcalona always insist of buy back clauses on their sales. They had one for Romeu, who has just gone to Southampton. Let's face it if they choose to activate it they will either want him back in the team or he would have increased in value so they can sell him. In either of those scenarios he will have done very well for us.Yes, even without buy back clauses, if Barcelona want one of our players, we would probably not be able to keep them, anyway.
Welcome Adama, fantastically exciting signing.
Sat at work and someone has asked me how many, if any transfers have gone on between Villa and Barcelona.
Great news by the way!
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Sat at work and someone has asked me how many, if any transfers have gone on between Villa and Barcelona.
Great news by the way!
Phil King back in 1995 and Simon Stainrod in 87 are the only ones I can recall off the top of my head.
5 year deal apparently.Reading between the lines that means he'll be off for a medical at Man City in the January window.
The sun always shines on the Villa. Welcome Adama and congratulations on joining the worlds best football club from that obscure club you were at.(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/78/2b/0,,10265~13904760,00.jpg)
:) :)
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That photo must have been taken on Wednesday judging by the sunshine! the weather yesterday was dull and overcast with drizzle
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Just so no one panics, he has stretched the shirt in the traditional new signing manner. So it's official.
I can't remember the last time we bought a player from one of the really top clubs in the world.
With this unreal signing of Adama I think we should now stop buying .The reason being my heart can't stand any more excitement!!What about if we win as well tonight Ron?!!!
Wonder if Benteke and Delph are looking at developments with a little regret?
Wonder if Benteke and Delph are looking at developments with a little regret?An interesting thought but one that is, ultimately, flawed.
I still can't quite get my head around the speed at which we have moved from signing cast-offs and mediocre lower-league Brits, to a massive supermarket sweep of bright young talents from the continent.
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Just so no one panics, he has stretched the shirt in the traditional new signing manner. So it's official.
Just told my lad that we'd signed a player from Barcelona.
"Is it Messi?" he asked. Oh to be 6 again.
I still can't quite get my head around the speed at which we have moved from signing cast-offs and mediocre lower-league Brits, to a massive supermarket sweep of bright young talents from the continent.
I'm still trying to adjust to this strange urge to want to watch us play.
Wonder if Benteke and Delph are looking at developments with a little regret?An interesting thought but one that is, ultimately, flawed.
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Just so no one panics, he has stretched the shirt in the traditional new signing manner. So it's official.
Hadn't we already signed Marvin before Delph performed his double backflip with half pike?Wonder if Benteke and Delph are looking at developments with a little regret?An interesting thought but one that is, ultimately, flawed.
Presume that if Delph had stayed we would be looking at the same ins minus Gana, in which case maybe so in his case. But that's total guesswork and take your point that you can't know much one hinged on the other.
With this unreal signing of Adama I think we should now stop buying .The reason being my heart can't stand any more excitement!!What about if we win as well tonight Ron?!!!
Balague from sky sports: irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubtsThat's a pretty good summation of Balague; now what has he said about Traore?
And I thought I was cynical and sarcastic. Keep up the good workBalague from sky sports: irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubtsThat's a pretty good summation of Balague; now what has he said about Traore?
Wonder if Benteke and Delph are looking at developments with a little regret?
Maybe not Benteke but I reckon Delph might be. Especially since the way he was pilloried for his decision and that despite his signing Citeh are in still looking to strengthen with quality midfielders.
Nevermind, feck the fecker.
Balague from sky sports: irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubtsThat's a pretty good summation of Balague; now what has he said about Traore?
I think we should put nzogbia in the starting 11 tonight , then put nzogbias shirt on Adama instead . Manure wont be bothered the slightest about nzogbia while he scores five goals and then sell ngozbia to west brom for ten million pounds.I like the cut of your jib young man! :D Would be worth it just to hear the stripeys whinge "it ay fair! Dem dirty Viaal bastids ripped uz off ay?"
Balague from sky sports says: Adama, new Aston Villa player for €10m+ €2 in variables: fast, irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubts
Balague from sky sports says: Adama, new Aston Villa player for €10m+ €2 in variables: fast, irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubts
Balague is unbelievably smug.
Blimey Barca like to have their cake and eat eat it.
They can have him back at any point in the next 3 years ( for unspecified price) and if not then they get a share of his sell on value.
Balague's criticism amounts to 'not good enough for Barcelona'. Which is pretty faint criticism if you ask me.Yes. My first thought was "What? We are signing someone who was good enough to sign Barcelona 'forms' in the first place. Fucking hell!".
And he speaks French too (as well as Spanish).That's a prerequisite now.
Blimey Barca like to have their cake and eat eat it.
They can have him back at any point in the next 3 years ( for unspecified price) and if not then they get a share of his sell on value.
That's not how the statement on their site puts it. For the first three years there is a specified price in place at which they can buy him. If they choose not to exercise it, then for the following two years (and presumably any subsequent contract he signs with us) if we choose to sell him then they have first refusal to buy him - presumably at whatever value we put on him.
So it's really only an issue at the point that the set price expires - if the price is say, £10m and he is worth more than that then they might as well exercise it and sell him on to somebody else.
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
Bacuna? I dont think so. Adama can deal with the scintillating wing play and Hutton can deal with the defensive work. He is far better than Bacuna in that facet of the game.
And he speaks French too (as well as Spanish).That's a prerequisite now.
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
Bacuna? I dont think so. Adama can deal with the scintillating wing play and Hutton can deal with the defensive work. He is far better than Bacuna in that facet of the game.
you can't leave Gabby out, it's not allowed
To quote The Pointer Sisters, I'm so excited.
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Just so no one panics, he has stretched the shirt in the traditional new signing manner. So it's official.
Now, that's a proper fucking shirt stretching. Well played young man.
What we need is one of those Che Guevara Viva La Revolucion t-shirts made up with Sherwood's mug on it. Because that is exactly what this is. The dead club we all knew in February in a few short months has been smashed to pieces, burnt to the ground and is starting to be rebuilt.
It's refreshing is'nt it? We've gone from playing a centre forward from Chesterfield out on the wing to signing up and coming talent from Barcelona. If he's a good as he looks and all these players gel, we're in for an exciting few season's.
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
Just add an "o" on to the end of the words whilst pouting...easy!And he speaks French too (as well as Spanish).That's a prerequisite now.
Yes, well French and Spanish are basically the same language; along with Portuguese and Italian.
:-)
I've been banging on like a mad man for years about the lack of movement off the ball and lack of imagination in our squad, well that has well and truly been addressed this summer and its rather bloody delightful.
Gueye. Veretout.
Adama. Gil. Grealish.
Ayew/Gestede.
That midfield and front line has more movement than Spaghetti Junction, add Amavi and Bacuna bombing forward from full back and its all rather exciting, granted the tracking back would be none existant but we'll deal with that when we come to it.
Aston Villa 10 Chelsea 9 ;D
I would also ... Come on you Design savvys, do some mock-ups.(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/ab/2b/0,,10265~13904811,00.jpg)
Just so no one panics, he has stretched the shirt in the traditional new signing manner. So it's official.
Now, that's a proper fucking shirt stretching. Well played young man.
What we need is one of those Che Guevara Viva La Revolucion t-shirts made up with Sherwood's mug on it. Because that is exactly what this is. The dead club we all knew in February in a few short months has been smashed to pieces, burnt to the ground and is starting to be rebuilt.
And I'd spend my VillaCash on one :)
Balague from sky sports says: Adama, new Aston Villa player for €10m+ €2 in variables: fast, irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubtsI do too, I think he's a great talent to have on board but he looks incredibly selfish in the way he plays. He has to learn to pass it or will end up down more blind alleys than Mr N'Zogbia.
I am literally buzzing my tits off
Just told my lad that we'd signed a player from Barcelona.
"Is it Messi?" he asked. Oh to be 6 again.
I am literally buzzing my tits off
Actually the lack of net spend . I make it we are now +£10m roughly. Another £10-15m on a CB and RB and possibly a DCM and we are doneI am literally buzzing my tits off
It doesn't seem that long ago you were unhappy with the lack of activity.
Actually the lack of net spend . I make it we are now +£10m roughly. Another £10-15m on a CB and RB and possibly a DCM and we are doneI am literally buzzing my tits off
It doesn't seem that long ago you were unhappy with the lack of activity.
No it's more about spending the money to improve the areas that need improving. We aren't there yet defensively IMHO . Tonight will probably highlight the need for better players at RB and another top CB , we will see how westwood handles the middle of the park aswell.
Balague from sky sports says: Adama, new Aston Villa player for €10m+ €2 in variables: fast, irregular, too individualistic and has to be more humble. Got my doubts
No it's more about spending the money to improve the areas that need improving. We aren't there yet defensively IMHO . Tonight will probably highlight the need for better players at RB and another top CB , we will see how westwood handles the middle of the park aswell.
What I'm excited about most is this young man's brain. He appears to have one. This goes against everything Aston Villa has stood for for the last five years. It feels like a new dawn.
Did Tim actually describe him as 'a little bit Messi, a little bit Ronaldo' - no pressure!
What I'm excited about most is this young man's brain. He appears to have one. This goes against everything Aston Villa has stood for for the last five years. It feels like a new dawn.
I know we have a reasonably good set up for young players but it does not compare with 10 years developing at Barcelona. He has had the ingredients, now we need to see his attitude to taking his career further.
No it's more about spending the money to improve the areas that need improving. We aren't there yet defensively IMHO . Tonight will probably highlight the need for better players at RB and another top CB , we will see how westwood handles the middle of the park aswell.
Well, if you're 'literally buzzing' your tits off now, I think we'd all pay to see what the result of three extra signings would be.
I went straight from 6 to midnight when I heard it was confirmed. Potentially one of our all time great bits of business.
Barcelona have a first-refusal option on the winger and can buy him back during his first three years at Villa Park, the Spanish club have announced.
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Did Tim actually describe him as 'a little bit Messi, a little bit Ronaldo' - no pressure!
Now you've got the Monkees 'A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You' going round in my head.
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Oooh, Benteke's old number. All rise and hail the coming of the new Beast
Who was the other ex Barcelona player we signed?
Good luck son. You start as N'Zogbia's understudy so pay attention and learn all you can.
Hasn't he been punished enough already?Good luck son. You start as N'Zogbia's understudy so pay attention and learn all you can.
This post should result in a ban of some sort.
Good luck son. You start as N'Zogbia's understudy so pay attention and learn all you can."Lesson number one - let's take you out and get you some terrible clothes."
Hasn't he been punished enough already?Good luck son. You start as N'Zogbia's understudy so pay attention and learn all you can.
This post should result in a ban of some sort.
That post was obviously the result of a prolonged period of sensory deprivation.
Great signing. Shows some real intent.
Had a few American friends text me today and say it was a great signing too. Seems people are taking notice of Tim is doing!
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Happy with the player. One question doesn't a three year buyback clause mean this is just a loan really? Or are they typically at much higher sums than the sale price? Not familiar with this kind of thing so insights would be good.
Happy with the player. One question doesn't a three year buyback clause mean this is just a loan really? Or are they typically at much higher sums than the sale price? Not familiar with this kind of thing so insights would be good.
They're higher, but not normally much higher. Barca don't tend to activate them for a small bit of profit, see Romeu who's gone to Southampton.
Happy with the player. One question doesn't a three year buyback clause mean this is just a loan really? Or are they typically at much higher sums than the sale price? Not familiar with this kind of thing so insights would be good.
They're higher, but not normally much higher. Barca don't tend to activate them for a small bit of profit, see Romeu who's gone to Southampton.
thanks, seems like a pretty good deal for them though. If he ends up being the next Messi then they can have him back anytime.
N'Zog often plays football in a jazz style.To paraphrase Lady Grantham: do you think any of them know what the others are doing?
I can't remember the last time we bought a player from one of the really top clubs in the world.
Bowery?
Our most exciting signing since Nii Lamptey!
I really hope he does the business because it seems there is so much expectation of him it's untrue..... He's a 19 year old kid who has hardly played at a decent level
Same is true of Grealish.... About 10 games and he's gonna change the world ( I hope he does but these expectations are too much)
I expect the Ballon d'Or to be between Grealish and Traore this year.
luckily he doesn't play like him
I expect the Ballon d'Or to be between Grealish and Traore this year.
They will have both let themselves, and us, massively down if it isnt
Far far too much expectation of this young player. If he adapts to our league he might live up to it,but don't expect wonders from his first few games. He has a lot to learn.
He will have been training with Barcelona B.
Also bare in mind the Spanish league doesn't start for another 2 weeks, so the best case is that he's about 1 month behind.
We need to ease him in gradually. Starting him at palace would probably be a mistake.
We need to ease him in gradually. Starting him at palace would probably be a mistake.
After the complete lack of opportunities created in our first two games, he can hardly fail.
Who was the other ex Barcelona player we signed?
I don't like this formation at all. We created so much more in the diamond that we used for a few weeks last season. 4-3-3 isn't working so either go to a system of 4-5-1 with two wide attacking midfielders or back to the diamond and at least give ourselves a chance to score every week.
I don't like this formation at all. We created so much more in the diamond that we used for a few weeks last season. 4-3-3 isn't working so either go to a system of 4-5-1 with two wide attacking midfielders or back to the diamond and at least give ourselves a chance to score every week.
We've been away to Championship champions on the first day where the tactics were to contain them in the first half and then against a Champions League team that we never do well against. All this where everyone's at different fitness levels, most are getting their first experience of the league and the team still has to gel. Chopping and changing the tactics on a game-by-game basis might not be the best idea right now.
There is a full back out there in one of the other 19 sides and he is sat in bed, and he doesn't know this, but one day, maybe real soon, he is going to have to defend against Toure and Amavi. Ouch.
I suppose the best thing to do against Palace is to give him 20mins in the second half to give him an idea of the pace of the EPL. At 19 he should be able to manage that.
For Palace I'd go
Defence
Veretout Gueye Westwood
Traore Sinclair
Gestede
Ayew on as a sub depending on the situation.
I hope you are wrongFor Palace I'd go
Defence
Veretout Gueye Westwood
Traore Sinclair
Gestede
Ayew on as a sub depending on the situation.
Haha Gabby dropped! You're having a laugh aren't you?
Actually there's nothing funny about that because he won't be dropped.
*Cries*
We need to ease him in gradually. Starting him at palace would probably be a mistake.
After the complete lack of opportunities created in our first two games, he can hardly fail.
There is a cup game a few days after which would probably be the best time to give him a run out.
Adama Traore sat down with the official website after putting pen to paper on a five year deal with Villa - and offered his thoughts on a host of claret and blue topics.
Check out his views below.
On joining Villa…
I know all about Aston Villa. I know it is a huge club with a massive history of winning trophies.
It's an honour for me to come here.
It's a club that showed interest in me from the first moment and made me feel important in terms of their project.
I have spoken to the manager and have a very good impression of him and what he wants from me.
All this have made this club my top attraction. It will be a pleasure to defend the shirt.
On Tim Sherwood…
I know the manager is a man of passion with a huge will to win. That drives him. I can feel that. He wants this team to do very well.
The manager has been great to talk to. He has so much passion, energy and confidence. You just know that this transmits to his players.
I felt very comfortable talking to him. We will work very well together.
I feel he trusts me a lot. I want to pay that back. When you know someone has belief in you and likes the way you play, it is great to work together.
The manager is building a new Villa. It contains new, young, hungry players - and I am one of them now.
I want to do my part in growing this team. I want to do great work for this club.
He wants to build a strong group. We want to improve all together and achieve our goals.
On Lionel Messi and Barcelona…
Barcelona is a club where I grew up as a person and as a footballer. I will always be grateful.
I have learnt a lot of values there - from the football perspective but as well as a personal point of view.
They taught me how to be a professional player on and off the field. Now I want to grow here.
What I have learnt from my time at Barcelona is the invisible work that goes on off the pitch. It's about the fine details.
It's about working hard, resting when you need to, leading a healthy life, having a support structure around you. These factors help you improve.
The maximum example in terms of his path at the club is Lionel Messi. That is where you can clearly see how to be a great player.
Talent is not enough - it's about using it in the right way. He is the reference to how to become a real professional footballer.
He works so hard at his game. He is humble - a very normal guy. That is something to admire and look up to.
Traore
On exciting the fans…
I think people would say I am explosive and I am fast. I want to excite the fans. I want to get them out of their seats and enjoy matchdays watching this team.
I want to see the fans cheering and screaming - but not just for me, for all the players!
From the goalkeeper to the striker, we are all very, very important.
Sometimes the forwards get the merit from the fans but the work of everybody is vital - every single member of our team.
We all need the supporters. We win together. We lose together. Being a team is far more important than any individual glory.
The glory of the team is what I care about!
On learning the language…
I know Carles Gil. I have spoken to him. It's a great help to have lads here who can speak Spanish, like him, Jose Angel Crespo and Carlos Sanchez.
They will help at the beginning.
I also speak French so that will also help me get to know some of the new lads.
But I am determined to learn English. I am going to do that very, very quickly because it's very important for me so I can adapt here.
"I know Carles Gil. I have spoken to him"
"I know Carles Gil. I have spoken to him"
Oof, that had the potential to go badly.
It seemed like a 4 4 1 1 but bizarrely with Veretout out of position wide right and Gabby playing behind Ayew
He is playing well for the reserves tonight according to Woodward & co
Who was the other ex Barcelona player we signed?It is Barcelona Sporting Club in Educador not that Barcelona in Nou Camp ;)
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How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.
AVFC U21 team:
Bunn, Leggett, Baker, Suliman, Bennett, Lyden, Hale, Traore, Sellars, Grealish, Gil
A few highlights:
DCFC 0-0 AVFC – 2mins: What a start from Traore! He charges past three players, crosses for Gil who fires wide.
DCFC 0-1 AVFC - GOAL - 30mins: Jack Grealish opens the scoring after a neat attacking move involving Traore and Gil.
DCFC 0-1 AVFC -39mins: Traore running the show. His cross is almost turned into his own net by Wassall but the keeper gathers.
DCFC 0-1 AVFC – 45mins: Close! Gil's strike is pushed onto the post by Mitchell.
DCFC 0-1 AVFC - 53mins: Gil releases Jack Grealish and his drive is kept out by Mitchell.
DCFC 0-1 AVFC - 71mins: Carles Gil is replaced by Harry McKirdy.
FT: DCFC 0-1 AVFC
Links:
Match report (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4940138,00.html)
Pun infested audio summary (https://audioboom.com/boos/3476992-derby-u21s-0-1-villa-u21s-jack-woodward-full-time-report)
Traore Gallery (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10265~4940149,00.html)
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.
It probably works like:
Interviewer: are you excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby Agbonlahor?
Player: Yes.
Website then quotes player directly as saying they are excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby.
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.
It probably works like:
Interviewer: are you excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby Agbonlahor?
Player: Yes.
Website then quotes player directly as saying they are excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby.
I know it's his job, and I know why they do it, but when Jack rolls out those lines in interviews with new signings, I cringe so much I worry I'll rupture something important.
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.
It probably works like:
Interviewer: are you excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby Agbonlahor?
Player: Yes.
Website then quotes player directly as saying they are excited at the prospect of linking up with Gabby.
I know it's his job, and I know why they do it, but when Jack rolls out those lines in interviews with new signings, I cringe so much I worry I'll rupture something important.
The whole OS seems pitched to 8-12 year olds, which I'm sure is intentional. But yeah, less of the "famous claret and blue" type stuff would suit me fine too.
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.i think it's probably just a coincidence that he describes himself as 'young and hungry, just like all the other players'. I honestly don't see why people would think the club's website would put words in his mouth in an interview for the club's website...
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.i think it's probably just a coincidence that he describes himself as 'young and hungry, just like all the other players'. I honestly don't see why people would think the club's website would put words in his mouth in an interview for the club's website...
How heavily do the official website edit foreign player quotes when they give their first interview in a language other than English? It's nice to read the things he's quoted as saying but even allowing for some translation liberties I can't imagine a young kid like him saying all the fawning stuff. It's just too pravda.i think it's probably just a coincidence that he describes himself as 'young and hungry, just like all the other players'. I honestly don't see why people would think the club's website would put words in his mouth in an interview for the club's website...
Mind you, at the end, he did say "Proud history, bright future"
We need to be patient and not go overboard and expect too much, but he is better than Messi.
I wouldn't play him at Palace. They have Barcelona style colours so he'll end up thinking he's playing for them.
We need to be patient and not go overboard and expect too much, but he is better than Messi.Messi is no yard stick as he has never won the World Cup🙊
We need to be patient and not go overboard and expect too much, but he is better than Messi.Messi is no yard stick as he has never won the World Cup🙊
Not sure if you have seen the Nou Camp but from outside it looks like an awful council estate.I wouldn't play him at Palace. They have Barcelona style colours so he'll end up thinking he's playing for them.
He'd think the Nou Camp had been subject to a monumental terrorist atrocity.
I thought it already looked like that.I wouldn't play him at Palace. They have Barcelona style colours so he'll end up thinking he's playing for them.
He'd think the Nou Camp had been subject to a monumental terrorist atrocity.
Not sure if you have seen the Nou Camp but from outside it looks like an awful council estate.I wouldn't play him at Palace. They have Barcelona style colours so he'll end up thinking he's playing for them.
He'd think the Nou Camp had been subject to a monumental terrorist atrocity.
I only saw highlights and of course he was playing against reserves so I don't want to over react BUT............... bloody hell he looked amazing. Skill full, intelligent , strong and with acceleration that is stunning.Reading that I thought I'd better catch up with the avtv highlights and I can confirm you are not exaggerating! Just as pleasing was to see the way the three amigos (jack carles and adama) linked up, always on the same wavelength. Not sure we could afford to see all 3 in the same team in the premier league but would be fantastic to see
I cannot wait to see him play for us I think he is class. He and Amavi look genuinely like top , top players already and they are so young.
We need to be patient and not go overboard and expect too much, but he is better than Messi.Messi is no yard stick as he has never won the World Cup🙊
If Pele, Maradona and Messi had a baby, it would be Adama. He is the Slayer of Ceylons, Saviour of Aston Villa, Destroyer of Defenders, Lord of the Universe.
Alan Wells was pretty quick.But look at his scoring record!
What's his beef with pre independent Sri Lankans?!
What's his beef with pre independent Sri Lankans?!
Bloody typos!
I only saw highlights and of course he was playing against reserves so I don't want to over react BUT............... bloody hell he looked amazing. Skill full, intelligent , strong and with acceleration that is stunning.Reading that I thought I'd better catch up with the avtv highlights and I can confirm you are not exaggerating! Just as pleasing was to see the way the three amigos (jack carles and adama) linked up, always on the same wavelength. Not sure we could afford to see all 3 in the same team in the premier league but would be fantastic to see
I cannot wait to see him play for us I think he is class. He and Amavi look genuinely like top , top players already and they are so young.
I only saw highlights and of course he was playing against reserves so I don't want to over react BUT............... bloody hell he looked amazing. Skill full, intelligent , strong and with acceleration that is stunning.Reading that I thought I'd better catch up with the avtv highlights and I can confirm you are not exaggerating! Just as pleasing was to see the way the three amigos (jack carles and adama) linked up, always on the same wavelength. Not sure we could afford to see all 3 in the same team in the premier league but would be fantastic to see
I cannot wait to see him play for us I think he is class. He and Amavi look genuinely like top , top players already and they are so young.
Yeah when they linked up it was beautiful! Gil & Grealish in particular just seemed to know each other. I would love to see the three of them play together like that, just lovely!
They could in theory, in a 4231. Grealish naturally seems to drift left and Adama is right sided. Gil presumably could slot into the central position. I'm not sure we have natural players for the deeper two midfielders, maybe Sanchez and Gueye?
Just as pleasing was to see the way the three amigos (jack carles and adama) linked up, always on the same wavelength. Not sure we could afford to see all 3 in the same team in the premier league but would be fantastic to seeWhat formation we play last night and what positions did the 3 amigos take up?
I know this has probably been discussed else where, but Gil looked good from what I saw of him and the goal in the cup he scored was fantastic. I could never understand why he didn't feature at all towards the end of last season. Anyone got any ideas?
I just saw footage of the U-21 game on facebook. Holy crap, he looks superb. Get him in the first team for Saturday .
Aston Villa The Informer page.I just saw footage of the U-21 game on facebook. Holy crap, he looks superb. Get him in the first team for Saturday .
Whereabouts on facebook ?
A two man central midfield set up can work in a 4231. The 2 have a far less offensive job than they do in a 433, for example. So those two are both focused on protecting the defense and doing the work in the middle of the park. They have to be disciplined, but it's a good idea. Traore, Gil and Grealish behind Ayew or Gestede would be wonderful. With players like Sinclair and Gabby able to come in.
I just saw footage of the U-21 game on facebook. Holy crap, he looks superb. Get him in the first team for Saturday .
I just saw footage of the U-21 game on facebook. Holy crap, he looks superb. Get him in the first team for Saturday .
can it be posted on here for the less social media savvy
I just saw footage of the U-21 game on facebook. Holy crap, he looks superb. Get him in the first team for Saturday .
can it be posted on here for the less social media savvy
Link to Facebook video (https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/11856864_787145774731827_579133567_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQyNCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&oh=9b4582e44415fc35fa4456b2654279b4&oe=55D49868)
Surprised though of all the footage there isn't the one of the host which is meant to involve Gil and Traore before Jack finishes it off.
Surprised though of all the footage there isn't the one of the host which is meant to involve Gil and Traore before Jack finishes it off.
As if by magic the shopkeeper appeared (https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xtf1/v/t42.1790-2/11864898_787138171399254_1224294988_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjU4MSwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=581&vabr=323&oh=0e028686d7d9c087a031881a40f14b84&oe=55D4B14C)
I've taken to having the highlights on mute.Surprised though of all the footage there isn't the one of the host which is meant to involve Gil and Traore before Jack finishes it off.
As if by magic the shopkeeper appeared (https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xtf1/v/t42.1790-2/11864898_787138171399254_1224294988_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjU4MSwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=581&vabr=323&oh=0e028686d7d9c087a031881a40f14b84&oe=55D4B14C)
Ta Mr Shopkeeper
Actually the highlights are available on AVTV now. The first run that Traore makes, our Jack Woodward is prattling on about something else insignificant as our new signing blows by three players. Priceless.
We need to be patient and not go overboard and expect too much, but he is better than Messi.Messi is no yard stick as he has never won the World Cup🙊
I don't think we need to send anyone else to Palace - Just Adama :)
Nothing as exciting or guaranteed to get people off their feet as watching a player go past a defender
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Does need to look up a wee bit rather than do everything himself but certainly looks the part
Pity TSM II was not here to coach all of that out of him ::)
I think having Grealish and Gil around him will be of great benefit. He has amazing skills and speed, but does too much on occasions. That play where Jack and Carles worked the ball up between them creating a shot on goal was sublime and Adama will hopefully learn to add that to his game - he has plenty of time to develop.Yeah, the interplay between the two looked great; let's hope they can reproduce that sort of football for the first team.
I can see this guy being on that 'Tekkers' section (or whatever it's called) on Soccer AM quite a bit.
I can see this guy being on that 'Tekkers' section (or whatever it's called) on Soccer AM quite a bit.
I expect a full article from the Birmingham Mail explaining how well would fit in at Liverpool.
I can see this guy being on that 'Tekkers' section (or whatever it's called) on Soccer AM quite a bit.
I expect a full article from the Birmingham Mail explaining how well would fit in at Liverpool.
I'm expecting an article along the lines of he's all show and no substance, digging up some Spanish article that's critical of him, suggesting he won't be ready for a relegation dog fight and then mentioning through gritted teeth that even if he does Ok Barcelona have a buy back for a pittance anyway.
Tim doesn't think he's fit yet so I don't expect he'll feature in the next few weeks. I'd love to know what his definition of fit is.
I would hope that isn't literal and was just designed to take some pressure off him ; I'd hate to think he wasn't going to feature at all this season, little point in buying him if so.
I would hope that isn't literal and was just designed to take some pressure off him ; I'd hate to think he wasn't going to feature at all this season, little point in buying him if so.
I saw Tim's latest interview on AVTV after the Derby U21 game. He said basically that Traore is short of fitness, so don't expect him to feature in the first team yet. I think he may give him some game time in the Notts County League Cup match but we'll have to wait and see.
Sherwood has already proved that much of what he says at times is buster. I would bet on Traore being in and around the first team in the next few weeks, looking a very capable impact sub and then kicking on from there. This just takes the pressure of his shoulders and lets him settle more easily.
I'd imagine Sherwood is taking the pressure off him somewhat. I don't see Villa spending £7 million on a player that won't play this season.
I'd imagine Sherwood is taking the pressure off him somewhat. I don't see Villa spending £7 million on a player that won't play this season.
I can see him starting vs Notts County
From those comments from TS it seems as though Traore definitely wont be starting any PL games soon. I'm not going to question TS or the coaching staff in making these decisions, but I hope we see Traore in first team action sooner rather than later...preferably from the bench tomorrow at Palace.
Let's also keep in mind Stoke have 3 ex Barca players and at the moment they still look shite. This won't happen overnight
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
Because its fun. All kinds of teams in all sports have silly initiation rituals.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
I assume you mean the posting it on social media? In which case I agree, team bonding stuff should stay behind closed doors.
Why they do this I don't know.You wouldn't understand.... it's called fun!
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
I assume you mean the posting it on social media? In which case I agree, team bonding stuff should stay behind closed doors.
Have you seen the clip? It's entirely harmless.
Jack Grealish has posted a video of him on Instagram of him doing his initiation song/dance tonight. I'm guessing that it was at the hotel in London so it would appear he's traveled if true.Why they do this I don't know.
No I haven't but that wasn't the point my comment. To expand further, I feel that when a fun team bonding thing is put on social media or is used for publicity then it's meaning changes. The 'what happens on tour, stays on tour' cliche carries some merit in my opinion. I'd guess that the forces encourage a similar code of conduct. So the content of the video is not important it is that Grealish has failed to understand the team dynamic in my opinion, it shows a lack of awareness.
Pontificating on something you haven't seen. I see. Fair enough...
Edit: not you K
No I haven't but that wasn't the point my comment. To expand further, I feel that when a fun team bonding thing is put on social media or is used for publicity then it's meaning changes. The 'what happens on tour, stays on tour' cliche carries some merit in my opinion. I'd guess that the forces encourage a similar code of conduct. So the content of the video is not important it is that Grealish has failed to understand the team dynamic in my opinion, it shows a lack of awareness.
Considering that over the last year or so Hutton and Delph had posted similar videos in addition to ones from Grealish, I don't think the team in general will have a problem.
Besides, back in my sporting days (ye olde 2007) initiations tended to be a lot more humiliating/difficult/embarrassing, standing on a chair and singing a song is really really tame.
Sherwood said "we should cool our jets about him". I presume that means not to get overly impatient as fans are wont to do. He also said he was only 19 had a lot to learn and was a 'development player'. To me that places him in the same category as Delph when he was signed. One for the future who may make the occasional appearance.Grealish is 19 ...
He'll be good enoughSherwood said "we should cool our jets about him". I presume that means not to get overly impatient as fans are wont to do. He also said he was only 19 had a lot to learn and was a 'development player'. To me that places him in the same category as Delph when he was signed. One for the future who may make the occasional appearance.Grealish is 19 ...
My guess is that Traore will be gradually blended into the team from the bench - by Xmas I'd expect him to be challenging for a regular starting spot if he's good enough
No I haven't but that wasn't the point my comment. To expand further, I feel that when a fun team bonding thing is put on social media or is used for publicity then it's meaning changes. The 'what happens on tour, stays on tour' cliche carries some merit in my opinion. I'd guess that the forces encourage a similar code of conduct. So the content of the video is not important it is that Grealish has failed to understand the team dynamic in my opinion, it shows a lack of awareness.
Considering that over the last year or so Hutton and Delph had posted similar videos in addition to ones from Grealish, I don't think the team in general will have a problem.
Besides, back in my sporting days (ye olde 2007) initiations tended to be a lot more humiliating/difficult/embarrassing, standing on a chair and singing a song is really really tame.
Gabby has posted a few of them, too.
Recently the new doctor and coach driver (two seperate people, rather than one man doing both, you'll be glad to hear) have had theirs posted.
It is totally harmless.
I can't even begin to imagine why anyone would give the slightest shit about this sort of thing.
Didn't Wise, Jones, Fashanu etc. used to set new recuits' suits on fire or hose new players down when they joined Wimbledon?
he was very reasonable about it. I mean one Sunday when my parents were coming round for tea, I asked him if he'd mind very much not nailing my head to the floor that week and he agreed and just screwed my pelvis to a cake stand.
Explosive burst of pace, he looks the real deal this lad. He'd be in my team for the Sunderland game.I agree . If you're good enough you're old enough.
Didn't Wise, Jones, Fashanu etc. used to set new recuits' suits on fire or hose new players down when they joined Wimbledon?
They had a tradition whereby new players would have their head nailed to the floor by Vinny Jones.
This is from Terry Gibson's autobiography about when he joined Wimbledon and asked Jones for mercy.Quotehe was very reasonable about it. I mean one Sunday when my parents were coming round for tea, I asked him if he'd mind very much not nailing my head to the floor that week and he agreed and just screwed my pelvis to a cake stand.
He has to play. He's like Linford Christie after a trip round Lance Armstrong's house.
Yes I thought they both used the same Chemist.He has to play. He's like Linford Christie after a trip round Lance Armstrong's house.Like Linford Christie then.
Promising is an understatement. I cannot fathom what formation will suit him though as he looked as useful as a chocolate fireplace at some aspects yesterday (harsh to judge based on 20 minutes admittedly). The way he hugged the touchline is not something we've seen for a while too. I think he'd be best in a 433 but not sure we have the other players to suit that system whilst also including Grealish (who also looked excellent yesterday). Could Grealish play on the left of the midfield 3?
As long as the base two stay fairly disciplined I think there's enough presence there because lets face it, if you play a midfield 3 and not one offers anything in attack, it's a bit redundant. Westwood offered very little yesterday.
Some decent set pieces would be a start. I felt Grealish was the one creating (until Troare came on) more so, and Gabby of course was wasting those.As long as the base two stay fairly disciplined I think there's enough presence there because lets face it, if you play a midfield 3 and not one offers anything in attack, it's a bit redundant. Westwood offered very little yesterday.
Apart from breaking up a whole bunch of attacks, creating our best chances and spreading the play really well. Honestly, I know this isn't the right thread, but I have no idea what Westwood has to do for people to lay off him.
It was almost embarrassing the ease with which he went past the 2 palace players.
We don't have another player who is remotely capable of doing that. I think he has to start against Sunderland
Not for me...think we need to have Gueye and Sanchez/Westwood protecting the back four whilst we're still trying to gel and improve fitness; then you have your pick of four attacking players with Jack/Gil playing behind the striker. TS mentioned that he'd try to accommodate both Jack and Gil, but cant see how that's going to work.
This guy looks good. Very fast and will cause teams problems. Hopefully he starts against Notts County!
This guy looks good. Very fast and will cause teams problems. Hopefully he starts against Notts County!
Only just seen the goals as I've been away all weekend. That was some turn of pace for our equaliser!
This guy looks good. Very fast and will cause teams problems. Hopefully he starts against Notts County!
Only just seen the goals as I've been away all weekend. That was some turn of pace for our equaliser!
For me it wasn't so much the pace as the way he just .... well, barged his way through the defence like there wasn't anything could stop him.
We all want to see him sooner rather than later but not sure how less than 20 mins on the pitch in 2 games in 2013 have any relevance as to whether he is ready for this weekend or not.
At the start of MOTD2 last night Chapman said 'have we found the fastest player in the PL' I instantly thought of Adama. Then at the end there was a montage of players and their speed was being shown on the screen, Luke Fekin Shaw got in there but not our Adama.
This guy looks good. Very fast and will cause teams problems. Hopefully he starts against Notts County!
Only just seen the goals as I've been away all weekend. That was some turn of pace for our equaliser!
For me it wasn't so much the pace as the way he just .... well, barged his way through the defence like there wasn't anything could stop him.
It didn't show it MOTD but he basically did exactly the same thing twice more before the second Palace goal. If he's managed correctly, we could have a hell of a player on our hands / to flog back to Barcelona.
At the start of MOTD2 last night Chapman said 'have we found the fastest player in the PL' I instantly thought of Adama. Then at the end there was a montage of players and their speed was being shown on the screen, Luke Fekin Shaw got in there but not our Adama.
Luke Shaw must have been filmed while heading to the buffet bar post-match, the fat c***.
At the start of MOTD2 last night Chapman said 'have we found the fastest player in the PL' I instantly thought of Adama. Then at the end there was a montage of players and their speed was being shown on the screen, Luke Fekin Shaw got in there but not our Adama.
Luke Shaw must have been filmed while heading to the buffet bar post-match, the fat c***.
That made me chuckle. It's funny with Shaw because when I saw him at Villa Park ,when Southampton beat us with the Rodgriguez dive, he was brilliant. His fitness since he's gone to Manure is shocking.
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
True but there will be some holding midfielder who wont half have to do some tackling behind them
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
True but there will be some holding midfielder who wont half have to do some tackling behind them
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
True but there will be some holding midfielder who wont half have to do some tackling behind them
That's pretty much what Sanchez' game is designed for. Thought he looked good at the weekend, and hope he can go on and make that position his own this season.
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
True but there will be some holding midfielder who wont half have to do some tackling behind them
That's pretty much what Sanchez' game is designed for. Thought he looked good at the weekend, and hope he can go on and make that position his own this season.
To be honest, it would be nice for Sanchez to make that position his own for 90 minutes.
Him, Jack and Gil could make a hell of an attacking-midfield three. I think they'd complement each other well.
True but there will be some holding midfielder who wont half have to do some tackling behind them
That's pretty much what Sanchez' game is designed for. Thought he looked good at the weekend, and hope he can go on and make that position his own this season.
To be honest, it would be nice for Sanchez to make that position his own for 90 minutes.
Ha, that's a good point!! Ideally, we'd have Sanchez and Gueye as a solid base in midfield which would allow attacking players a bit more freedom. Westwood just isn't mobile enough to cover the ground he would have to in a two man midfield.
We all want to see him sooner rather than later but not sure how less than 20 mins on the pitch in 2 games in 2013 have any relevance as to whether he is ready for this weekend or not.
He looked pretty ready to me .........
He's ace. He better not be injured.
Sherwood said he's not looking great so far.
It reminded me of Escape To Victory when the German team kept hacking at Pele but just couldn't stop him.
Sherwood said it doesn't look good
The negative is that Adama got injured.
The only way to stop him at the minute is to kick him. He's a marked man.
He will have to get used to it.
It doesn't looked good to be honest. He took a heavy knock - I thought it was a bad tackle. It was his ankle.
He's a real talent.
It's too soon to tell how serious but he's packed in ice and hobbling around.
TS said this on the OS:QuoteThe negative is that Adama got injured.
The only way to stop him at the minute is to kick him. He's a marked man.
He will have to get used to it.
It doesn't looked good to be honest. He took a heavy knock - I thought it was a bad tackle. It was his ankle.
He's a real talent.
It's too soon to tell how serious but he's packed in ice and hobbling around.
You can just see his Barca up bringing in his technique, the way he walks and then sprints too beat his defender is the exact same technique as Messi, I'm not saying he's anywhere near as good before somebody jumps on that, were going to have some fun with this guy.
Tim has a tendency towards the over dramatic, so hopefully this is in that vein.
He can't have been that badly injured the way he went off surely?
With him and grealish we have two absolutely outstanding talents the likes of which I don't think we've ever had in my time supporting villa.
He can't have been that badly injured the way he went off surely?
With him and grealish we have two absolutely outstanding talents the likes of which I don't think we've ever had in my time supporting villa.
Hang on a minute, you obviously never saw Bosko Balaban in his prime??
Is there any update on Traore's injury? I may have missed it if there is.
You get the sense tomorrow is a bit too early. I was expecting him to be fit
And we seem to be contemplating three at the back for subsequent games. Not sure he can fit into that. But Sherwood has been reported to be contemplating three at the back for ages without doing it once so far
I really wanna see this guy and grealish on the same pitch some more.
Is Adama ready for Sunday? Pissed off with these injuries denying us the chance to see him in full flow. He'll rip the shit out of most full backs he faces this season.
Is Adama ready for Sunday? Pissed off with these injuries denying us the chance to see him in full flow. He'll rip the shit out of most full backs he faces this season.
Unfortunately, Adama picking up injuries will be something that we will need to get used to for the very reason you give above.
Against County he clearly embarrassed some of the defenders, which resulted in them resorting to hacking him down.
I just hope that the likes of Adama and Jack are given protection by the referee's and any bad tackles are stamped out immediately.
I doubt it very much.
Is Adama ready for Sunday? Pissed off with these injuries denying us the chance to see him in full flow. He'll rip the shit out of most full backs he faces this season.
Unfortunately, Adama picking up injuries will be something that we will need to get used to for the very reason you give above.
Against County he clearly embarrassed some of the defenders, which resulted in them resorting to hacking him down.
I just hope that the likes of Adama and Jack are given protection by the referee's and any bad tackles are stamped out immediately.
I doubt it very much.
Wasn't it when he came on (might have been his debut?) against Hull and their players just kicked lumps out of him?
Wasn't it when he came on (might have been his debut?) against Hull and their players just kicked lumps out of him?
The stripey cup game, when he got clipped by Lescott and got a 2nd yellow for diving.
Steve Bruce (rightly) got a lot of stick from the Trinity Lower for that "tactic"Wasn't it when he came on (might have been his debut?) against Hull and their players just kicked lumps out of him?
The stripey cup game, when he got clipped by Lescott and got a 2nd yellow for diving.
Sorry I was thinking of the match he got clattered from the word go, thought he'd maybe offended one of the Hull players wives or girlfriends the way they went after him.
Steve Bruce (rightly) got a lot of stick from the Trinity Lower for that "tactic"Wasn't it when he came on (might have been his debut?) against Hull and their players just kicked lumps out of him?
The stripey cup game, when he got clipped by Lescott and got a 2nd yellow for diving.
Sorry I was thinking of the match he got clattered from the word go, thought he'd maybe offended one of the Hull players wives or girlfriends the way they went after him.
HonestlySteve Bruce (rightly) got a lot of stick from the Trinity Lower for that "tactic"Wasn't it when he came on (might have been his debut?) against Hull and their players just kicked lumps out of him?
The stripey cup game, when he got clipped by Lescott and got a 2nd yellow for diving.
Sorry I was thinking of the match he got clattered from the word go, thought he'd maybe offended one of the Hull players wives or girlfriends the way they went after him.
The Lower Trinity eh? I can only imagine how scared he would have got from the sound of collective tutting.
Could really do with Adama back in action next weekend...if this was a video game Adama would be my weapon of choice against a parked bus.
Tim Sherwood will assess Adama Traore, Carles Gil and Jose Angel Crespo ahead of the derby clash with West Brom - but hinted that it's still too soon to include Tiago Ilori.
Traore has been struggling with an ankle problem since coming off against Notts County in the Capital One Cup second round clash.
Gil was substituted against Leicester at the weekend while Crespo is on the road to full fitness after being out since the pre-season game against Nottingham Forest.
Sherwood was positive on Crespo and hasn't given up hope of having Traore and Gil available for the Baggies encounter on Saturday.
He told AVTV: "Jose is getting closer.
"He is certainly going in the right direction.
"Carles hasn't trained yet. He's been a little bit sore.
"We will just have to assess him and hopefully he makes it.
"Adama hasn't trained. He's not been out there.
"Hopefully we can build him up as quickly as possible and get him on the field and taking part."
Sherwood is a big fan of Ilori, who was signed from Liverpool on a season-long loan.
Despite the admiration he doesn't want to rush the versatile young star into first team action.
He added: "Tiago is not ready.
"He's a young lad who played in the U21s Championships and he's played his first 90 minutes since then the other evening against Brighton in the U21s.
"It's probably a bit early for him to start coming into the reckoning."
Yep we'll be a much different prospect with him in the team...my only concern is that he will spend more time out injured than on the pitch. Some of those challenges against Notts County were disgraceful and he really needs protection from the match officials.
The turned ankle is what concern is and was a direct result of those challenges. I've turned ankles myself and they are a bastard to heal...your ankle is never as strong again once you've gone over on it (depending on the severity of the turn and if any ligaments were stretched).Yep we'll be a much different prospect with him in the team...my only concern is that he will spend more time out injured than on the pitch. Some of those challenges against Notts County were disgraceful and he really needs protection from the match officials.
From what I understand, the impact injuries cleared up some time ago, it was the turning of the ankle which is keeping him out. He doesn't have a history of injuries and certainly doesn't look particularly fragile, so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.
Too true I've been struggling with a twisted ankle for 6 weeks now. But I am a fat, old, unfit person!
Sheeit, rumbled.Too true I've been struggling with a twisted ankle for 6 weeks now. But I am a fat, old, unfit person!
At least we know where Grant Holt is now.
I guarantee that Traore will not play against WBA and possibly Blues as well. I doubt if we shall see Gil on Saturday either. No word re Gueye does not bode well unless Sherwood is trying to play mind games.
The turned ankle is what concern is and was a direct result of those challenges. I've turned ankles myself and they are a bastard to heal...your ankle is never as strong again once you've gone over on it (depending on the severity of the turn and if any ligaments were stretched).Yep we'll be a much different prospect with him in the team...my only concern is that he will spend more time out injured than on the pitch. Some of those challenges against Notts County were disgraceful and he really needs protection from the match officials.
From what I understand, the impact injuries cleared up some time ago, it was the turning of the ankle which is keeping him out. He doesn't have a history of injuries and certainly doesn't look particularly fragile, so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.
As someone said earlier two from Grelish, Traore, Ayew and Gil at the very most. They are going to kicked to fcuk, so they'll all have plenty of first team action over the season due to injuries etc...
Crespo ??
He overdid it a bit today when the easy pass was on. That said I want him to have the confidence to take players on. We have enough 'safe' passing players as it is
I thought he did alright considering his it's his first game back. Looked like he was trying to make things happen, did overdo it a bit but he looks a player who will take the game by the scruff of the neck. A lot of what he tried very nearly came off as well.
Start vs Stoke please.
I thought he did alright considering his it's his first game back. Looked like he was trying to make things happen, did overdo it a bit but he looks a player who will take the game by the scruff of the neck. A lot of what he tried very nearly came off as well.
Start vs Stoke please.
I was watching him on Saturday when he didn't have the ball. I swear he almost never moved an inch. He just stood there watching the game like he was an observer. The thought of tracking back wasn't even When he gets the ball he's pretty strange too. Everything starts with stop. Like a bull about to charge, he holds the ball, waits, looks at his opponent and charges through and past him.
He's a really strange player and I'm not sure how it's going to go. Power, strength, speed and control he most certainly has. It's the rest that worries me. Maybe it's the Barca way of playing is still very much inside his head but I really hope he can adapt to the PL and be a great individual and team player for us rather than a circus act.
Can't wait to see him again.
So is Adama injured again?I asked the same and someone has told me Sherwood said on OS that he was limping during the U21 game this week and looks doubtful for Saturday
Idrissa Gana is fully fit.
He's had a bit of treatment this week on that hamstring. It's still niggling away at him but we're hoping it'll be fine.
Adama Traore is struggling.
He played in an U21 game against West Brom. He was limping one minute and the next minute he wasn't.
I had a chat with him and said 'we need to find out if you're fit' and make a decision based on that.
We'll see how it goes.
He picked up an ankle injury against Notts County.
He's come back and he still feels it a wee bit. We can't take any risk with him.
There's still a long way of this season to go and we've got to make sure he's 100% right.
He took a battering against Notts County to be fair...it was only a matter of time he would get injured in that game and TS should have took him off earlier to protect him the way the tackles were flying in on him.
It's easy with hindsight, not such an easy decision at that moment when losing at home in the cup to a side three divisions below us. If he'd taken Adama off and we'd lost, he would have been absolutely slaughtered for it.
What I would have liked is for the ref to have had a big enough pair to be issuing cards and warnings as soon as they started hacking.
Just read an article on Adama which says he is on a basic £40k a week which is so heavily incentivized that he could earn up to £75k a week given a set number of appearances. Fuck me I didn't realize we were handing out those sort of contracts to the new recruits! Anyone think this is actually true?
Just read an article on Adama which says he is on a basic £40k a week which is so heavily incentivized that he could earn up to £75k a week given a set number of appearances. Fuck me I didn't realize we were handing out those sort of contracts to the new recruits! Anyone think this is actually true?
That's eye-watering amounts of money. Given his experience and the level he was playing at before, a tenth of that would be about right. Of course, without this bribe he would never have left Barça B.
I know it's way too early to say the new Nii Lamptey, but I hope he starts paying us back with performances soon.
That's eye-watering amounts of money. Given his experience and the level he was playing at before, a tenth of that would be about right. Of course, without this bribe he would never have left Barça B.
I know it's way too early to say the new Nii Lamptey, but I hope he starts paying us back with performances soon.
A tenth? Traore would not come to England and play for someone for £4k a week.
Stan's one voice. Being on the radio makes him easier to hear but he's not unlike most Villa fans who have an opinion. I don't agree at all with his views on Sherwood. I do agree to an extent on his views on the board. I agree to an extent to a number of other views he has on the club. I don't like how he is becoming bitter when others don't agree with him. Hit fit in quite well amongst us on here.Had no idea there were so many people who hit women and wank in public on H&V
I see Stan's now posted some sarcastic tweet about this ; he's beginning to get on my nerves
Makes complete sense @JPercyTelegraph . Prem experience, consistent performer, wonder if they’ll bump N’Zog up to 70.
— Stan Collymore (@StanCollymore) October 27, 2015
If Stan gave such a massive fuck about how we are being miss run then where were his comments before ?
Stan's one voice. Being on the radio makes him easier to hear but he's not unlike most Villa fans who have an opinion. I don't agree at all with his views on Sherwood. I do agree to an extent on his views on the board. I agree to an extent to a number of other views he has on the club. I don't like how he is becoming bitter when others don't agree with him. Hit fit in quite well amongst us on here.Had no idea there were so many people who hit women and wank in public on H&V
How long ago is ages exactly - in the summer he tweeted about having coffee with Fox and "exciting times" ahead for Villa fans. He hasn't yet said what hasn't been delivered that led him to this conclusion at that time but has subsequently changed - although I assume it isn't failing to sign Adebayor and other Spuds rejectsIf Stan gave such a massive fuck about how we are being miss run then where were his comments before ?
Before what? He's been saying it for ages?
If Stan gave such a massive fuck about how we are being miss run then where were his comments before ?
Before what? He's been saying it for ages?
How long ago is ages exactly - in the summer he tweeted about having coffee with Fox and "exciting times" ahead for Villa fans. He hasn't yet said what hasn't been delivered that led him to this conclusion at that time but has subsequently changed - although I assume it isn't failing to sign Adebayor and other Spuds rejectsIf Stan gave such a massive fuck about how we are being miss run then where were his comments before ?
Before what? He's been saying it for ages?
If the reported 40K is basic wage, and the "incentives" to bring it up to 75K include a hefty appearance fee, maybe that's why they're leaving him out of a midweek cup game.I couldn't see that being the reason he doesn't get games. Surely we wouldn't agree to such terms for an unproven player?
If the reported 40K is basic wage, and the "incentives" to bring it up to 75K include a hefty appearance fee, maybe that's why they're leaving him out of a midweek cup game.
Or, he really is not what we though he was. Pele hasn't sung Adama's praises anywhere has he? Then we'd know for sure he's crap.
For all the conspiracy theories, the real reason he is not playing could be very simple. He has had a shocker every time he has come on the pitch since his injury. He has the raw attributes and is very young. He will come good and will have a part to play as he season goes on.
There are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.Garde should have the information he needs about Agbonlahor.It will have been supplied by Gerard Houlier.
There are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.Garde should have the information he needs about Agbonlahor.It will have been supplied by Gerard Houlier.
Has anybody else spotted this rumour about a clause in Traore's contract where he goes from 45k a week to 75k based on appearances, and that's why he's not playing? Cascarino seems to know all about it based on the piece I saw it in.
Apologies if this has appeared elsewhere; just thought I'd see if that's old gossip.
If the reported 40K is basic wage, and the "incentives" to bring it up to 75K include a hefty appearance fee, maybe that's why they're leaving him out of a midweek cup game.
Or, he really is not what we though he was. Pele hasn't sung Adama's praises anywhere has he? Then we'd know for sure he's crap.
First why is this even a talking point? There are many players around the league on this kind of money and more. Second he signed a 5 year contract. Why would we be leaving him out of the side after a couple of months due to a payment clause?
Ask yourself - how likely is it that we'd agree to a contract that would mean within two months we'd be paying him not to play?
Ask yourself - how likely is it that we'd agree to a contract that would mean within two months we'd be paying him not to play?
Probably bullshit but it's hard not to think of the Ilori deal whereby his price for a permanent move relates to the number of appearances he makes this season.
Ask yourself - how likely is it that we'd agree to a contract that would mean within two months we'd be paying him not to play?
Precisely it's utter bollocks.
There are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.
There are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.
Sounds like you think Lynn Truss should be writing our training manual for him
There are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.
Sounds like you think Lynn Truss should be writing our training manual for him
If that was the case, Agbonlahor would cover 'eats' as well.
Call Gabby what you want, but never call him late for dinnerThere are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.
Sounds like you think Lynn Truss should be writing our training manual for him
If that was the case, Agbonlahor would cover 'eats' as well.
may as well call gabby the panda
eats shoots and leaves
Call Gabby what you want, but never call him late for dinnerThere are so many players Garde could improve just by suggesting one addition to their game. In Adama's case, it would be 'pass'. Grealish, it would be 'shoot'. Agbonlahor, 'leave'.
Sounds like you think Lynn Truss should be writing our training manual for him
If that was the case, Agbonlahor would cover 'eats' as well.
may as well call gabby the panda
eats shoots and leaves
On the Golden Boy shortlist:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/golden-boy-shortlist-leaked-thirteen-6782888#rlabs=64%20p$2
Previous winners include Aguero, Rooney, Messi and Raheem Sterling.
Don't think in our current situation we will be seeing Traore any time soon. Looks a million miles away from being a first team player to me. Twenty minutes vs Palace & 60 mins vs Notts County doesn't mean he's ready.Even if in those 80 minutes he was directly responsible for two goals?
Do the club not want to play him due to the rumoured wage increase. It happened with Curtis Davies remember.
Do the club not want to play him due to the rumoured wage increase. It happened with Curtis Davies remember.
Apart from his run against Palace and a decent run out against L1 Notts County, he's been largely shit. Perhaps that would explain why he's not playing more often.
Apart from his run against Palace and a decent run out against L1 Notts County, he's been largely shit. Perhaps that would explain why he's not playing more often.
Apart from his run against Palace and a decent run out against L1 Notts County, he's been largely shit. Perhaps that would explain why he's not playing more often.
Apart from his run against Palace and a decent run out against L1 Notts County, he's been largely shit. Perhaps that would explain why he's not playing more often.
Bit of a silly comment considering he's hardly played since then.
Apart from his run against Palace and a decent run out against L1 Notts County, he's been largely shit. Perhaps that would explain why he's not playing more often.
Bit of a silly comment considering he's hardly played since then.
It's not as silly as the number of fans continuing to post 'where is Traore?' as if he's the missing ingredient. He will no doubt show flashes but he is miles away from being the player we hope. People need to realise he's one for the future and stop pining for him.
Good point, but did we figure out where he is?
Good point, but did we figure out where he is?
Isn't he taking the penalty?
Good point, but did we figure out where he is?
Isn't he taking the penalty?
Of the new signings , he's struggled more than most in understanding Spurs wage bill.
If used as an impact sub he may well be worth a place on the bench, this team is not blessed with natural pace and yes he maybe a long term prospect, but it is an area we are sadly missing and in need of right now.
I hear what you say Ron and take it on board but my gut feeling and earnest hope is that we shall be seeing a lot more of Adama. Team player or not, he lights up Villa Park and by God do we need that at the moment.
Old git alert. When he started with us Peter McParland was roundly accused of not being a good team player. All that charging down the wing and scoring goals. Running through people. Wingers are supposed to dribble. His job is to pass the ball to Johnny Dixon. Get rid.
Remi Garde isn't impressed.Says he has to become more of a team player before he will be considered for the first team.
Remi Garde isn't impressed.Says he has to become more of a team player before he will be considered for the first team.
That is just the type of player you want coming on as sub. Sometimes individualism shakes the lethargy of the other players to raise their own game.
Hes not good enough to be in the team. Garde said as much when asked about him,Kozac and Okore. Garde said the teams he had picked so far consisted of the best players he had seen at the club. God knows how poor theses three are if that is the case.
well as far as Adama is concerned there were other clubs chasing his signature so it's an odd one - hopefully he'll come good before too long.
well as far as Adama is concerned there were other clubs chasing his signature so it's an odd one - hopefully he'll come good before too long.
If Barca didn't see potential in him, would they have gone for the buyback or do they do that for every player that leaves as a no risk hedge?
If they really did rate him, it shows that Bodymore really can coach the talent out of anyone!
I like him but for me he holds onto the ball for far too long. Also he isn't keen on tracking back after he loses it.
I like him but for me he holds onto the ball for far too long. Also he isn't keen on tracking back after he loses it.I think with some players you need to accept that, and also that is why you play two holders like Sanchez and Gana. I'd be happy to play Traore and let him do his thing. He's one of the only players we have who can raise the pulse above that of a corpse in the morgue. He will frustrate, but then at the same time he created more havoc in their backline than anyone else did all game.
I'd keep him on the right and just tell Hutton not to cross the half way line unless necessary. Hutton is having to cover far too much ground and he's getting on a bit now.I like him but for me he holds onto the ball for far too long. Also he isn't keen on tracking back after he loses it.
That's probably why i'd play him through the middle if anywhere. That way, he wouldn't leave any full back exposed. He's got the pace and skill to possibly pull it off.
I agree with the posters above. He has power and skill. Play him upfront with Ayew. Richards at right back and Sinclair just behind the two main strikers. Absolutely anything is worth a go before the window opens again.
I agree with the posters above. He has power and skill. Play him upfront with Ayew. Richards at right back and Sinclair just behind the two main strikers. Absolutely anything is worth a go before the window opens again.
Erm, why the praise? He never looked like passing to another team mate. He runs in to blind alleys and gets crowded out by the opposition because they know he won't release the ball.
He would be brilliant at Wembley singles but he is no team player.
Up front with ayew with sinclair and gil behind.
Blimey, players don't half get written off quickly these days.
Might have a look at the list of Academy players and select one to slag off so I can be the first to say he wouldn't make it as a player.
Blimey, players don't half get written off quickly these days.
Might have a look at the list of Academy players and select one to slag off so I can be the first to say he wouldn't make it as a player.
Blimey, players don't half get written off quickly these days.
Might have a look at the list of Academy players and select one to slag off so I can be the first to say he wouldn't make it as a player.
Are many of them earning £45k a week?
Play him up front with Ayew off and floating. Ayew and Gil feeding balls into the channels, with him playing off the last man.
There isn't a defender yet born who would be able to keep pace, so go to Southampton, push their back line as deep as its ever sat by pinging them over the top and round the corner for the human rocket to chase.
He's not started a league game because of the Notts County thug, so his development has been curtailed. He's got bags of promise though.
My twopennorth. I love him. I think he is a shining light amid the circling gloom. I would play him centre forward.
My twopennorth. I love him. I think he is a shining light amid the circling gloom. I would play him centre forward.
He's not started a league game because of the Notts County thug, so his development has been curtailed. He's got bags of promise though.Still can't believe how that fecker stayed on the pitch in that game.
I think we just need to look at Delefou at Everton as a pretty good comparison with Adama. He took a little while to settle when he first came over from Barca, but he is looking like a terrific player now. Traore has undoubted talent, we just need to be patient with him and allow him the time to adjust without putting too much pressure on him.
That's the problem though, in our frustration at how bad we are I wouldn't want to see us destroy a young kid who physically looks the real deal. A few years of maturing and learning the team game and he could genuinely be a worldy.
That's the problem though, in our frustration at how bad we are I wouldn't want to see us destroy a young kid who physically looks the real deal. A few years of maturing and learning the team game and he could genuinely be a worldy.
I doubt he will stay at us beyond this season if we go down, so we wouldn't be seeing that development.
That's the problem though, in our frustration at how bad we are I wouldn't want to see us destroy a young kid who physically looks the real deal. A few years of maturing and learning the team game and he could genuinely be a worldy.
I doubt he will stay at us beyond this season if we go down, so we wouldn't be seeing that development.
He's played all his football before now in the Spanish second division. On much lower wages than we would be paying him.
I'm pretty sure that if we want to keep him then we will.
Some of the last few comments are ridiculous about not wanting to ruin him.
Some real idiots on here at times
That's the problem though, in our frustration at how bad we are I wouldn't want to see us destroy a young kid who physically looks the real deal. A few years of maturing and learning the team game and he could genuinely be a worldy.
I doubt he will stay at us beyond this season if we go down, so we wouldn't be seeing that development.
He's played all his football before now in the Spanish second division. On much lower wages than we would be paying him.
I'm pretty sure that if we want to keep him then we will.
Yes, and he'd fucking destroy the division below. Get a half decent backline together and we'd be back up by Easter.
Garde said today he is good one on one but still has a lot to learn about team play.
Garde said today he is good one on one but still has a lot to learn about team play.
Garde said today he is good one on one but still has a lot to learn about team play.
Definitely. Garde seems to know what he's doing, it makes a nice change to have faith in our manager.
Garde said today he is good one on one but still has a lot to learn about team play.
Definitely. Garde seems to know what he's doing, it makes a nice change to have faith in our manager.
which is true. i don't think i've ever seen him run into space to receive a pass yet. he seems to prefer the Barca stand still and wait for it method.
Surely you've got to give this guy a run over the xmas period?
I dunno it seems obvious to me....a very raw player but someone who can run at defences, create space and generally excite people at least.
Surely you've got to give this guy a run over the xmas period?
I dunno it seems obvious to me....a very raw player but someone who can run at defences, create space and generally excite people at least.
My thoughts exactly
Is scott sinclair playing, or likely to play, any better?
£65K a week...
Christian Benteke was the best Villa centre forward I have ever seen. Rudy Gestede is pushing for being the worst. He really is rubbish.I will raise your Benteke and Gested with Andy Gray and Simon Stainrod.
Christian Benteke was the best Villa centre forward I have ever seen. Rudy Gestede is pushing for being the worst. He really is rubbish.
Christian Benteke was the best Villa centre forward I have ever seen. Rudy Gestede is pushing for being the worst. He really is rubbish.
I wouldn't say he's the worst, but he's got one attribute and that's his heading ability and that's not enough for the top division.
I'd say Peter Withe was better than either of them and at least Stainrod scored occasionally.
Christian Benteke was the best Villa centre forward I have ever seen. Rudy Gestede is pushing for being the worst. He really is rubbish.
I wouldn't say he's the worst, but he's got one attribute and that's his heading ability and that's not enough for the top division.
Christian Benteke was the best Villa centre forward I have ever seen. Rudy Gestede is pushing for being the worst. He really is rubbish.
I wouldn't say he's the worst, but he's got one attribute and that's his heading ability and that's not enough for the top division.
Pity he couldn't head the ball into the net today...
And the most nailed on banker bet is Libor Kozak to go to Celtic and score 15+ goals in half a season.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
But that range Chris was one slip up and one piece of sheer, unadulterated, pulse racing brilliance. Not only do we have nothing to lose, we do not have a single player on the books remotely as exciting. I will take the slip ups all day long just to see a player in an Aston Villa shirt run at the opposition.
But that range Chris was one slip up and one piece of sheer, unadulterated, pulse racing brilliance. Not only do we have nothing to lose, we do not have a single player on the books remotely as exciting. I will take the slip ups all day long just to see a player in an Aston Villa shirt run at the opposition.
I pretty much agree, Brian, I just know how unforgiving the crowd can be at times. My instinct would be to keep him on the bench for a couple more weeks but to give him longer on the pitch to get his confidence up against tiring defenders before starting him.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
Rubbish.
Delofalu, Bojan, Affelay,Pique, Sanchez, Toure, Muniesa off the top of my head. All good players.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
Rubbish.
Delofalu, Bojan, Affelay,Pique, Sanchez, Toure, Muniesa off the top of my head. All good players.
After watching him for the full 90 in the u21's I just came away not knowing whether he'd be a good addition to the first team or not at this stage. You can definitely see why his youtube highlights were so good. The guy is an absolute rarity, he can look brilliant and absolute toilet in equal measure. His work rate and defending seem non-existent and for large parts he just tries to do everything himself. Yet he's capable of moments of jaw dropping brilliance as we saw yesterday. I think it's got to the stage where we must try everything up our sleeves now so I'd look to start him against Newcastle.
He's still so raw though and needs so much coaching to make him the finished article. Whether he'll get the coaching he requires at Villa is another matter.
After watching him for the full 90 in the u21's I just came away not knowing whether he'd be a good addition to the first team or not at this stage. You can definitely see why his youtube highlights were so good. The guy is an absolute rarity, he can look brilliant and absolute toilet in equal measure. His work rate and defending seem non-existent and for large parts he just tries to do everything himself. Yet he's capable of moments of jaw dropping brilliance as we saw yesterday. I think it's got to the stage where we must try everything up our sleeves now so I'd look to start him against Newcastle.
He's still so raw though and needs so much coaching to make him the finished article. Whether he'll get the coaching he requires at Villa is another matter.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
I am not so sure. He is a crowd pleaser but he is also an absolute loose canon. Did anyone else notice Ayew having to scream at him to get back into position yesterday while he was sauntering back and West Ham had a goal kick? Adama was doing the convenient deafness trick and ignoring. Fair play to Ayew, he dropped deeper to compensate for Adama's arrival and I think he did it off his own back, but that in turn took our most likely source of a goal away from the place where he might score it.
He has bags of natural ability but he has so much to work on. It's difficult to throw him in properly in our situation.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
We got the full range with Traore yesterday, one great run that left their defenders flailing then one hopeless attempt where the ball just trickled out of play. He is clearly very raw but in our current state I don't see what we have got to lose.
Barcelona don't let good players leave. Starting to think they've sold us a dud here.
What bollocks that Barcelona don't let good players leave! Why is there a buy back clause on Adama? Garde is handling this entirely wrong. Ffs we're 9 points adrift with one win in 18 games. What is the risk in giving the guy a few games instead of Sinclair? You know, Adama might actually grow in confidence if the Manager believed in him. Garde is useless in a relegation scrap - he's not exactly achieved the new manager bounce has he? More the bounce of a dead cat.
What bollocks that Barcelona don't let good players leave! Why is there a buy back clause on Adama? Garde is handling this entirely wrong. Ffs we're 9 points adrift with one win in 18 games. What is the risk in giving the guy a few games instead of Sinclair? You know, Adama might actually grow in confidence if the Manager believed in him. Garde is useless in a relegation scrap - he's not exactly achieved the new manager bounce has he? More the bounce of a dead cat.
The risk is he offers no protection to his fullback and we have consistently struggled when we allow the ball to be turned over with men committed forward. I agree that he should probably get 20 minutes rather than 5 but the confidence that Garde has started to build could easily disappear if we gamble with his inexperience.
What bollocks that Barcelona don't let good players leave! Why is there a buy back clause on Adama? Garde is handling this entirely wrong. Ffs we're 9 points adrift with one win in 18 games. What is the risk in giving the guy a few games instead of Sinclair? You know, Adama might actually grow in confidence if the Manager believed in him. Garde is useless in a relegation scrap - he's not exactly achieved the new manager bounce has he? More the bounce of a dead cat.
We'll be gone by the time our confidence is built up.What bollocks that Barcelona don't let good players leave! Why is there a buy back clause on Adama? Garde is handling this entirely wrong. Ffs we're 9 points adrift with one win in 18 games. What is the risk in giving the guy a few games instead of Sinclair? You know, Adama might actually grow in confidence if the Manager believed in him. Garde is useless in a relegation scrap - he's not exactly achieved the new manager bounce has he? More the bounce of a dead cat.
The risk is he offers no protection to his fullback and we have consistently struggled when we allow the ball to be turned over with men committed forward. I agree that he should probably get 20 minutes rather than 5 but the confidence that Garde has started to build could easily disappear if we gamble with his inexperience.
What bollocks that Barcelona don't let good players leave! Why is there a buy back clause on Adama? Garde is handling this entirely wrong. Ffs we're 9 points adrift with one win in 18 games. What is the risk in giving the guy a few games instead of Sinclair? You know, Adama might actually grow in confidence if the Manager believed in him. Garde is useless in a relegation scrap - he's not exactly achieved the new manager bounce has he? More the bounce of a dead cat.1. Barca have a buy back clause inserted in all their academy transfer outs just in case they turn out to be good enough to play for them.
We don't have to go kamikaze gungho all out, but we do need to start scoring more goals, and the current set up isn't going to achieve it. Sometimes a player, if let off the leash, can come in and be a catalyst for great things, and the best we can hope for at the moment it seems, is scraping 1-1 draws. Gil was mostly hopeless against West Ham when he came on, so I can't really see how giving Traore a go against Norwich could be any worse.
We don't have to go kamikaze gungho all out, but we do need to start scoring more goals, and the current set up isn't going to achieve it. Sometimes a player, if let off the leash, can come in and be a catalyst for great things, and the best we can hope for at the moment it seems, is scraping 1-1 draws. Gil was mostly hopeless against West Ham when he came on, so I can't really see how giving Traore a go against Norwich could be any worse.
Garde should've moved Bacuna to RB instead of Hutton, Clark to LB and replaced Westwood with Adama - not Veretout who was the pick of the midfielders. Bacuna is a right footed player and Clark a left footed player; take note Remi....You have noticed that everything resembling width is coming from fullbacks who've got the pace and stamina to get up and down. Clark would not offer this, he just doesn't have the pace over 30-50 metres to do it.
Both full backs got into good positions yesterday but the final ball was a problem. With regards to Hutton, it reminds me of the 'mellberg at full back' days, let him have the ball because he won't hurt us.Garde should've moved Bacuna to RB instead of Hutton, Clark to LB and replaced Westwood with Adama - not Veretout who was the pick of the midfielders. Bacuna is a right footed player and Clark a left footed player; take note Remi....You have noticed that everything resembling width is coming from fullbacks who've got the pace and stamina to get up and down. Clark would not offer this, he just doesn't have the pace over 30-50 metres to do it.
In addition lining up Clark alongside Lescott, regardless of who's at fullback and centre back is just inviting either a ball down the channel or over the top that turns them both around and flailing like beached oil tankers.
Adama looks hopelessly out of his depth. The clamour for his inclusion is a sign of the desperate plight we find ourselves in.
Adama looks hopelessly out of his depth. The clamour for his inclusion is a sign of the desperate plight we find ourselves in.
Adama looks hopelessly out of his depth. The clamour for his inclusion is a sign of the desperate plight we find ourselves in.
The alternatives are players like Westwood and Sinclair etc so I'd take a bit of out of depth ness before I'd be using make no difference players
It'd be criminal if he didnt get a chance now. We know it's a lost cause but let's throw caution to the wind against Sunderland for McGraths sake.
Great assist yesterday, but how was his general play?Wander about until ball received. Turn. Boot ball past defender. Hare past defender and catch up with ball. Encounter two defenders. Stop. Shimmy a bit then choose option of going for byline and crossing*. Or cutting in and losing ball.
He does cause panic though. One of their players resorted to trying to get him sent off by rolling round on the floor when he clearly won the ball. The ref fell for it and booked him, the player in supposed agony got back up.
He does cause panic though. One of their players resorted to trying to get him sent off by rolling round on the floor when he clearly won the ball. The ref fell for it and booked him, the player in supposed agony got back up.
I thought it was still a silly challenge, it was never going to gain possession - merely a throw in. Guess that's youth.
He does cause panic though. One of their players resorted to trying to get him sent off by rolling round on the floor when he clearly won the ball. The ref fell for it and booked him, the player in supposed agony got back up.
I thought it was still a silly challenge, it was never going to gain possession - merely a throw in. Guess that's youth.
It was unnecessary but he won the ball but it's a fair point.
Do you think he'll stick around at the end of the season? If he does, on the one hand he could look like Pele at that level but on the other hand he might get Peles treatment at the 66 World Cup and be kicked out of the game every time he plays.
Do you think he'll stick around at the end of the season? If he does, on the one hand he could look like Pele at that level but on the other hand he might get Peles treatment at the 66 World Cup and be kicked out of the game every time he plays.
Jack will see the Championship as good potential for a jolly boys outing, lots of new towns he hasn't had a night out in with his mates.
Based on personal experience Rotherham closes at 5pm on a Saturday.
Based on personal experience Rotherham closes at 5pm on a Saturday.
You can still get the bus to Sheffield.
QuoteGreat assist yesterday, but how was his general play?
Wander about until ball received. Turn. Boot ball past defender. Hare past defender and catch up with ball. Encounter two defenders. Stop. Shimmy a bit then choose option of going for byline and crossing*. Or cutting in and losing ball.
*Crosses were either sent in for awesome Gil goal or to far side of pitch where only grass was there to receive.
He's very raw yes, but I have seen very few players who have the talent just to run past the opposition like he does. He's potentially a very special player.I'd take someone who does 5 crap things for every 2 great things rather than just a bunch who do absolutely fuck all that's any good.
Do you think he'll stick around at the end of the season? If he does, on the one hand he could look like Pele at that level but on the other hand he might get Peles treatment at the 66 World Cup and be kicked out of the game every time he plays.
Unless we get the right offer he has no choice. It might do him good to play at a lower level and gain experience and you only need to look at the promoted teams this season to see that the old ideas of it being full of cloggers are less relevant.
Ayew will have ave increased his value.
I'd try him up top with Ayew for a game.
Staggered that we didn't do this on Saturday...against the two slowest CBs in the league!I'd try him up top with Ayew for a game.
Agreed. No defensive responsibilities.
Staggered that we didn't do this on Saturday...against the two slowest CBs in the league!I'd try him up top with Ayew for a game.
Agreed. No defensive responsibilities.
I know Clampy.Staggered that we didn't do this on Saturday...against the two slowest CBs in the league!I'd try him up top with Ayew for a game.
Agreed. No defensive responsibilities.
Ayew as suspended.
I know Clampy.Staggered that we didn't do this on Saturday...against the two slowest CBs in the league!I'd try him up top with Ayew for a game.
Agreed. No defensive responsibilities.
Ayew as suspended.
I meant playing Traore up front, through the middle.
Sorry mate, didn't make it clear.
Ayew will have ave increased his value.
Which is funny because after about 3 appearances lots of people were saying how terrible he was and we'd been completely had.
https://twitter.com/sportbbcwm/status/685035406052704256 Season gets better and better.Well that's possibly the only saviour gone.
File under Stas, I.
were Everton one of the other clubs he made a whistle stop tour of in the summer before making the 'hello Aston Villa' video?.
I think we will be watching him in the champions league inside 3 seasons and wishing we still had him. Likewise 1-2 others, but there is no way we can sustain him on 60k a week in the Championship.Ooooh! - perish the thought the poor love........
I think he will be sold if his wages are true but I also think he would take a lot of teams apart down there.
I think we will be watching him in the champions league inside 3 seasons
He is 19. Too early to write off his career. He might improve you know.
I'd be interested in peoples thoughts on his suitability for the Championship - should we join it.Do you think they might send us straight down to League 1?
Amazing - Garde was confident he'd be fit for the FA Cup tie this Saturday as it was diagnosed as a "minor" knock! Great medics at the club!Something behind the scenes hasn't been right at our club since O Neill fecked off. Our "luck" with injuries since 2010 has been appalling. Year on year our squad seems to get decimated. Now granted we don't help ourselves sometimes when we sign players like Vlaar, and someone like Gardner is genuinely cursed it seems, but it's all the niggles, and then we have to account for that fact that our squads have persistently looked like a bunch of wheezing chronic asthma sufferers in comparison to most of the other squads in the Premiership. Far more often than not our opponents last the distance better than we do, be it on a game by game basis, or during the course of a season. Everyone gets injuries but I think we've probably suffered as much as anybody. We must be top 5. A few clubs (Arsenal) could give us a run for our money. However when you account for the combination of injury record, and stamina (or lack thereof) we're unquestionably the worst. We die at 60 minutes. Certain individuals persistently, but as a unit too we just run out of steam (partly because we're shambolically organised and piss poorly managed so players seem to do more aimless, headless chicken running than necessary).
He reminds me of that kid that was at QPR a while back. Can't remember his name - total loose cannon but about as naturally gifted as it gets. He pretty much got QPR back up if I recall.
He would be a class apart form anything in Division 2, so we should keep him.
I'd be interested in peoples thoughts on his suitability for the Championship - should we join it.
Amazing - Garde was confident he'd be fit for the FA Cup tie this Saturday as it was diagnosed as a "minor" knock! Great medics at the club!Something behind the scenes hasn't been right at our club since O Neill fecked off. Our "luck" with injuries since 2010 has been appalling. Year on year our squad seems to get decimated. Now granted we don't help ourselves sometimes when we sign players like Vlaar, and someone like Gardner is genuinely cursed it seems, but it's all the niggles, and then we have to account for that fact that our squads have persistently looked like a bunch of wheezing chronic asthma sufferers in comparison to most of the other squads in the Premiership. Far more often than not our opponents last the distance better than we do, be it on a game by game basis, or during the course of a season. Everyone gets injuries but I think we've probably suffered as much as anybody. We must be top 5. A few clubs (Arsenal) could give us a run for our money. However when you account for the combination of injury record, and stamina (or lack thereof) we're unquestionably the worst. We die at 60 minutes. Certain individuals persistently, but as a unit too we just run out of steam (partly because we're shambolically organised and piss poorly managed so players seem to do more aimless, headless chicken running than necessary).
I think our whole medical and fitness section needs turfing out and starting again from scratch. It's not good enough. There's absolutely no excuse at this level.
As for Traore, it's come to something that many of us (and I've got carried away at times too) have pinned so many hopes on a 19 year old who, whilst undoubtedly talented is also one of the rawest players we've ever had here. I mean some players are just absolute shit and always will be and you know that but as far as a rough diamond type goes, Adama is right up there with a young Gabbaldinho.
He's not going to save us and he's certainly not going to lead us back to the Premiership next season (if he's still here). He's a hell of a long way off I think. That said if we can get consistent players around him, he can flourish in patches enough to be something of a shining light.
Amazing - Garde was confident he'd be fit for the FA Cup tie this Saturday as it was diagnosed as a "minor" knock! Great medics at the club!Something behind the scenes hasn't been right at our club since O Neill fecked off. Our "luck" with injuries since 2010 has been appalling. Year on year our squad seems to get decimated. Now granted we don't help ourselves sometimes when we sign players like Vlaar, and someone like Gardner is genuinely cursed it seems, but it's all the niggles, and then we have to account for that fact that our squads have persistently looked like a bunch of wheezing chronic asthma sufferers in comparison to most of the other squads in the Premiership. Far more often than not our opponents last the distance better than we do, be it on a game by game basis, or during the course of a season. Everyone gets injuries but I think we've probably suffered as much as anybody. We must be top 5. A few clubs (Arsenal) could give us a run for our money. However when you account for the combination of injury record, and stamina (or lack thereof) we're unquestionably the worst. We die at 60 minutes. Certain individuals persistently, but as a unit too we just run out of steam (partly because we're shambolically organised and piss poorly managed so players seem to do more aimless, headless chicken running than necessary).
I think our whole medical and fitness section needs turfing out and starting again from scratch. It's not good enough. There's absolutely no excuse at this level.
As for Traore, it's come to something that many of us (and I've got carried away at times too) have pinned so many hopes on a 19 year old who, whilst undoubtedly talented is also one of the rawest players we've ever had here. I mean some players are just absolute shit and always will be and you know that but as far as a rough diamond type goes, Adama is right up there with a young Gabbaldinho.
He's not going to save us and he's certainly not going to lead us back to the Premiership next season (if he's still here). He's a hell of a long way off I think. That said if we can get consistent players around him, he can flourish in patches enough to be something of a shining light.
Agree on the fitness point. Even under O'Neill we were prone to conceding late goals and that has just continued to the present day. As you say, you can see the team visibly tire two thirds of the way into the game and that's when the stupid mistakes and fouls start happening. As you say, there is no excuse for that to be the case at a top flight club.
He wrote that in the third person? Both Tim and TV like that.
:oHe wrote that in the third person? Both Tim and TV like that.
LeeB does not agree. That's not a LeeB kind of tweet.
He wrote that in the third person? Both Tim and TV like that.
He wrote that in the third person? Both Tim and TV like that.
So much Traore. Much Awesome. Wow!
Do we know when Traore is due back? Any news (besides just bad news)?Who?
Jeez searching for any injury update news I've just seen this (apologies if posted elsewhere). Still none the wiser on a return date http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/adama-traores-aston-villa-future-10940345
Aston Villa were hoping it would be a case of he came, he saw he conquered for Adama.
Instead, like Lamptey, he came, he scored in the League Cup, he conked out.
Do we know when Traore is due back? Any news (besides just bad news)?
Do we know when Traore is due back? Any news (besides just bad news)?
5th March according to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) - probably a couple of weeks after that to get fit again
The worry in the back of my mind is that Adama is not a footballer. Yes, he got mad skillz etc but so do those keepy-uppy champions, and other tricksters. But you don't usually see them turning out for professional clubs.
In that sense, not the new Nii Lamptey but the maybe new Michael Boulding. His strengths may lie in other sports.
I don't get this not a footballer thing with Traore that assist against Newcastle or Sunderland, can't remember which, was absolute quality and if he can replicate that and become consistent doing that he'll be a great player. He is someone I really hope we keep and develop.
I don't get this not a footballer thing with Traore that assist against Newcastle or Sunderland, can't remember which, was absolute quality and if he can replicate that and become consistent doing that he'll be a great player. He is someone I really hope we keep and develop.
I don't get this not a footballer thing with Traore that assist against Newcastle or Sunderland, can't remember which, was absolute quality and if he can replicate that and become consistent doing that he'll be a great player. He is someone I really hope we keep and develop.
Yes one (slightly overhit) cross. I was at the Sunderland game and there were quite a few other crosses that were dreadfully overhit when in good positions.
Adama - surely he must be close to a return? They said 8-10 weeks out at the beginning of January. Mind you, that was our medical team's estimate....
Yep, apparently Remi's middle name isn't Lucky.
Blimey it would be great if he stayed. Raw but good fun to watch. Firstly would his contract be an issue and Second, would he want to stay?
Yep, apparently Remi's middle name isn't Lucky.
Based on some of his team selections, it's probably 'Avant'
I would start Adama, Ayew and Grealish too. One each side, Gestede down the middle Grealish in behind him with Gana and Sanchez holding midfield. Nothing to lose really, and we might as well die tryingIs Sanchez fit for selection?
I would start Adama, Ayew and Grealish too. One each side, Gestede down the middle Grealish in behind him with Gana and Sanchez holding midfield. Nothing to lose really, and we might as well die trying
Personally I wouldn't be starting two players that are just back from a fair spell out injured.
Personally I wouldn't be starting two players that are just back from a fair spell out injured.
Barcelona are reportedly considering a transfer return for Aston Villa winger Adama Traore this summer, according to reports.
The 20-year-old only left the Nou Camp for Villa Park last summer, but has a buy-back clause as part of his contract with the Premier League strugglers.
Given Villa’s woes this season, Barca seem ready to pounce for Traore as he may look for a way out of the club if they are relegated.
According to Fichajes.net, the Catalan giants’ interest stems from the club still rating the youngster highly, with a backup role now available in Luis Enrique’s squad.
Barcelona have been in ‘fluid’ contact with the Spaniard as they consider their options for the summer transfer window.
The La Liga side are known for re-signing their academy products later on in their careers, having done so with Cesc Fabregas and Gerard Pique in recent history, while also reportedly targeting Arsenal’s Hector Bellerin this summer.
I wouldn't blame him though, wanting to get out of the place a quickly as possible.
He'll probably turn out to be a superstar, just not with us.
Barcelona have been in ‘fluid’ contact with the Spaniard as they consider their options for the summer transfer window.
If they take him back without any loss to us then fair enough
If they take him back without any loss to us then fair enough
They will pay the same to us as we did to take him. So given we have paid his wages all season its just the typical Villa decision.
If they take him back without any loss to us then fair enough
They will pay the same to us as we did to take him. So given we have paid his wages all season its just the typical Villa decision.
How is it a typical Villa decision? There's loads to beat us with without having to make things up. He got injured against Notts County when it looked like he might be about to get going. He never recovered since for any number of reasons.
If they take him back without any loss to us then fair enough
They will pay the same to us as we did to take him. So given we have paid his wages all season its just the typical Villa decision.
How is it a typical Villa decision? There's loads to beat us with without having to make things up. He got injured against Notts County when it looked like he might be about to get going. He never recovered since for any number of reasons.
Might want to learn to read. I never "made things up". The clause is £7 Million which is the same that Villa paid for him. They could have agreed a clause that was slightly higher (say £8 Million) than what the paid to cover their expenses. As it stands, Barca get him back, he goes back and we have paid his wages for a year. Brilliant business sense.
Not much we could have done as he's been injured most of the season.
More unsubstantiated nonsense. If you can back up the claims he was only half fit I'll run with it, however without such evidence my position is he should've started some of those nine games and that's only the beginning.
More unsubstantiated nonsense. If you can back up the claims he was only half fit I'll run with it, however without such evidence my position is he should've started some of those nine games and that's only the beginning.
He's played about 180 mins of league football, and has been injured for over half the season.
It's interesting reading the observations of Black on Traore and it probably mirrors everyone who has had to coach him. On a 2 min YouTube clip he is everything you want in a winger. But what all the coaches have clearly identified is that without the ball he can be a liability. It's a part of his game that he has to improve because all of this talk of anyone coming in for him is worthless because all scouts will see the same thing.
We all know what he is capable off going forward and if he can add work rate, positional sense and tracking back to his game he'll be lethal. He certainly deserves an opportunity because those who are currently keeping him our are every bit as useless at their defensive duties. It will be a pleasant change to see him and Grealish play tomorrow.
He's clearly got bags of potential but needed good coaching, a side with structure that allowed him to work to his strengths and plenty of game time.
No wonder he wants out of this farce.
He's clearly got bags of potential but needed good coaching, a side with structure that allowed him to work to his strengths and plenty of game time.
No wonder he wants out of this farce.
Would he not have had a bit of decent coaching at Barcelona?
He's clearly got bags of potential but needed good coaching, a side with structure that allowed him to work to his strengths and plenty of game time.
No wonder he wants out of this farce.
Would he not have had a bit of decent coaching at Barcelona?
Probably, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't need more. Otherwise teams wouldn't bother hiring first team coaches.
If he focks off then he's acunt cos ID really love to see 442 Green Gardener Grealish Adamski.
Adama Traore I.think can be better than Tony Daley hard yea h ncome on villa
If he focks off then he's acunt cos ID really love to see 442 Green Gardener Grealish Adamski.
Adama Traore I.think can be better than Tony Daley hard yea h ncome on villa
charming
If he focks off then he's acunt cos ID really love to see 442 Green Gardener Grealish Adamski.
Adama Traore I.think can be better than Tony Daley hard yea h ncome on villa
charming
Or before you've left school.While pissed on your pocket monies worth of Hoffmeister.
If he focks off then he's acunt cos ID really love to see 442 Green Gardener Grealish Adamski.
Adama Traore I.think can be better than Tony Daley hard yea h ncome on villa
Or before you've left school.While pissed on your pocket monies worth of Hoffmeister.
If they take him back without any loss to us then fair enough
They will pay the same to us as we did to take him. So given we have paid his wages all season its just the typical Villa decision.
How is it a typical Villa decision? There's loads to beat us with without having to make things up. He got injured against Notts County when it looked like he might be about to get going. He never recovered since for any number of reasons.
Might want to learn to read. I never "made things up". The clause is £7 Million which is the same that Villa paid for him. They could have agreed a clause that was slightly higher (say £8 Million) than what the paid to cover their expenses. As it stands, Barca get him back, he goes back and we have paid his wages for a year. Brilliant business sense.
Headless chicken at times today but great run for the cut back across the line for Richardson to somehow miss from two yards. Clearly has some pace and is exciting to watch and not even he knows what's coming next. With midfielders who can get him the ball, he will be great.Shame he wont be with us next season
Headless chicken at times today but great run for the cut back across the line for Richardson to somehow miss from two yards. Clearly has some pace and is exciting to watch and not even he knows what's coming next. With midfielders who can get him the ball, he will be great.Shame he wont be with us next season
Headless chicken at times today but great run for the cut back across the line for Richardson to somehow miss from two yards. Clearly has some pace and is exciting to watch and not even he knows what's coming next. With midfielders who can get him the ball, he will be great.
I think his name is Barrett at Swansea. He's a lot like Traore but more developed and mature. Traore's issue is when he either gets the ball too slowly or he's squeezed out on the right he gets frustrated or tries to do too much. If he has any room he is devastating.
The biggest issue is if he loses it does he have enough desire to battle to get it back. I think that is why he isn't a Barcelona a player because in my opinion much more than the passing and movement that has made them famous, the strength of that side in recent years is how hard they work to win the ball back if they do lose it.
I think his name is Barrett at Swansea. He's a lot like Traore but more developed and mature. Traore's issue is when he either gets the ball too slowly or he's squeezed out on the right he gets frustrated or tries to do too much. If he has any room he is devastating.
The biggest issue is if he loses it does he have enough desire to battle to get it back. I think that is why he isn't a Barcelona a player because in my opinion much more than the passing and movement that has made them famous, the strength of that side in recent years is how hard they work to win the ball back if they do lose it.
Montero I think you mean.
The Championship is the ideal place for him to build his confidence. He will get more space and thus more time.
Do not see the point of getting rid of him at this time.
I worry for him in the Championship, he's missed large chunks of this season in the top, pampered division, next season is going to be way more industrial with probably less protection from the officials.Our Jack flourished with Notts County in that league and he's much more featherweight than him.
Ashley Young worked his bollocks off in winning the ball back. Traore isn't a patch on Ash in attack or defence in my opinion.
Ashley Young worked his bollocks off in winning the ball back. Traore isn't a patch on Ash in attack or defence in my opinion.
Yet. 2 years is a big difference - Adama has massive potential.
Ashley Young was raw and erratic when he joined us, but he turned out to be very good.
Ashley Young was raw and erratic when he joined us, but he turned out to be very good.
I don't agree with that, Young was far more the complete player.
He's quick, I'll give him that. To my mind one of those players who are uncoachable, he surely can't be playing to instructions when he does some of the things he does.
As a gambling man I will take odds from anybody who wants to bet with me against Adama Traore (given reasonable luck with injuries) going from us to establish himself with a far better side than we are. You want hard work? You want effort? You want running through brick walls for the badge? Then stick with honest journeyman footballers like Andi Weimann and Nathan Baker.
We do indeed Clamps. Weimann's work ethic is lost to us but Baker's bravery alone will shine next season. At places like Millwall next season Nathan Baker will win MOTM carrying his head in Tesco bag.
I'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd agree with your 6 and be looking to build a side around them. I'd be tempted to play 5 of those as our midfield
New Keeper
new RB | Okore | Baker | Amavi
Veretout | Gana
Adama | Grealish | Ayew
New Striker
I think that's good enough for the championship and means we're looking for 3 starters. The likes of Okore and Baker (and Clark and a few others) might turn out ok if we can get them into a confident side, these are all players who've only ever known struggle as Villa players and it's beaten the confidence out of them.
I just can't see Gana & Ayew being here next seasonI'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd agree with your 6 and be looking to build a side around them. I'd be tempted to play 5 of those as our midfield
New Keeper
new RB | Okore | Baker | Amavi
Veretout | Gana
Adama | Grealish | Ayew
New Striker
I think that's good enough for the championship and means we're looking for 3 starters. The likes of Okore and Baker (and Clark and a few others) might turn out ok if we can get them into a confident side, these are all players who've only ever known struggle as Villa players and it's beaten the confidence out of them.
We do indeed Clamps. Weimann's work ethic is lost to us but Baker's bravery alone will shine next season. At places like Millwall next season Nathan Baker will win MOTM carrying his head in Tesco bag.
just like he did in the cup match there?
I'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd agree with your 6 and be looking to build a side around them. I'd be tempted to play 5 of those as our midfield
New Keeper
new RB | Okore | Baker | Amavi
Veretout | Gana
Adama | Grealish | Ayew
New Striker
I think that's good enough for the championship and means we're looking for 3 starters. The likes of Okore and Baker (and Clark and a few others) might turn out ok if we can get them into a confident side, these are all players who've only ever known struggle as Villa players and it's beaten the confidence out of them.
I'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd agree with your 6 and be looking to build a side around them. I'd be tempted to play 5 of those as our midfield
New Keeper
new RB | Okore | Baker | Amavi
Veretout | Gana
Adama | Grealish | Ayew
New Striker
I think that's good enough for the championship and means we're looking for 3 starters. The likes of Okore and Baker (and Clark and a few others) might turn out ok if we can get them into a confident side, these are all players who've only ever known struggle as Villa players and it's beaten the confidence out of them.
Other than the 'new striker' that looks strangely like a team that has been embarrassed countless times this season. We'd be nuts to start out with that next year.
I'd put Traore in the 'Jury's Out' category of our players, along with Grealish and Veretout (I have a good feeling about Veretout though). The 'Good Enough Already' category consists of Ayew, Gana, and I would argue Amavi. Everyone else is terrible (apart from youth players who I don't know much about).
I'd agree with your 6 and be looking to build a side around them. I'd be tempted to play 5 of those as our midfield
New Keeper
new RB | Okore | Baker | Amavi
Veretout | Gana
Adama | Grealish | Ayew
New Striker
I think that's good enough for the championship and means we're looking for 3 starters. The likes of Okore and Baker (and Clark and a few others) might turn out ok if we can get them into a confident side, these are all players who've only ever known struggle as Villa players and it's beaten the confidence out of them.
Other than the 'new striker' that looks strangely like a team that has been embarrassed countless times this season. We'd be nuts to start out with that next year.
At the back Richards, Clark and Lescott have been the principle embarrassments. In midfield, that honour goes jointly to Westwood and Bacuna, and up front to Gabby and Gestede.5 of those 7 are good old British players though Monty, so you must be wrong...all the experts keep telling us that if we had more of them we'd be challenging Leicester fecking City!
Given that there might be not a lot of cash to splash I would be trying Gardner as the "sitting" midfielder and looking at making a goalkeeper and a goalscorer a priority.
At the back Richards, Clark and Lescott have been the principle embarrassments. In midfield, that honour goes jointly to Westwood and Bacuna, and up front to Gabby and Gestede.
Clark could have a good season next year, but he has had a rubbish one by all accounts this year.
I think the Championship will require us to go with a bit of beef up front, or at least a bit of niggle and needle, some sort of budget Diego Costa. Ayew is our best attacking player, but centre-backs would be able to smash him into the stands with impunity in the division we're going into.
We shouldn't forget about Kozak. I don't think he'd score many goals but he'd look as class above in the Championship and would create space for others.
Next season will be the last of his contract, not sure anyone will take him off us before then considering his injury record here. Even on a free this summer I reckon it's unlikely anyone would bite.Are Barcelona not still involved in his future?
oops, didn't back track :-[
Next season will be the last of his contract, not sure anyone will take him off us before then considering his injury record here. Even on a free this summer I reckon it's unlikely anyone would bite.
Did anyone see how Troare performed for the U21s against West Ham last night? I heard both him and Jack were playing.
He'll have a relegation clause surely, wont he?No relegation clause according to the Torymail.
If not we seem to have our very own Zigic.
He'll have a relegation clause surely, wont he?No relegation clause according to the Torymail.
If not we seem to have our very own Zigic.
The idea that we're paying anybody 90 grand a week is utter horseshite.
I think his name is Barrett at Swansea. He's a lot like Traore but more developed and mature. Traore's issue is when he either gets the ball too slowly or he's squeezed out on the right he gets frustrated or tries to do too much. If he has any room he is devastating.
The biggest issue is if he loses it does he have enough desire to battle to get it back. I think that is why he isn't a Barcelona a player because in my opinion much more than the passing and movement that has made them famous, the strength of that side in recent years is how hard they work to win the ball back if they do lose it.
Montero I think you mean.
Sorry his name is Barrow. He's listed as a forward but really operates down the right wing. Just YouTube him and you'll swear you are watching a taller version of Traore.
The idea that we're paying anybody 90 grand a week is utter horseshite.
Tom Huddlestone is on £90,000 a week at Hull. I know this because somebody posted that they know somebody who is a sponsor and has a box at the KC and naturally they get details of what each player is getting paid. 100% gospel. FACT etc
The idea that we're paying anybody 90 grand a week is utter horseshite.
Tom Huddlestone is on £90,000 a week at Hull. I know this because somebody posted that they know somebody who is a sponsor and has a box at the KC and naturally they get details of what each player is getting paid. 100% gospel. FACT etc
As an aside - and why its likely to be balls in my opinion - my sister and bro-in-law have a cash converters and when they sponsored Hull in the Prem (shirt sponsors) every cash converters had to give £2k per month to Hull. The total sponsorship was something like £400 000. At the start of this season Hull decided to renegotiate because someone else came in offering more money and offered the shirt sponsoring job to Cash converters for something like £800 000 as a good will deal. They turned it down and in the end Hull got I believe £1.1m from whoever is their sponsor now.
I seriously doubt they are able to fork out £90k per week given the low stock that is placed on prominent sponsorship such as teh shirts.
Another one not happy.
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Moaning Villa footballer on social media. Who'd a thought it
Moaning Villa footballer on social media. Who'd a thought it
Hmmm.... accent in the final e is pointing in the wrong direction. Spoof?Another one not happy.
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In other words, "I want to leave this mad house!"
Hmmm.... accent in the final e is pointing in the wrong direction. Spoof?Another one not happy.
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In other words, "I want to leave this mad house!"
Hmmm.... accent in the final e is pointing in the wrong direction. Spoof?Another one not happy.
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In other words, "I want to leave this mad house!"
What I'm saying is that the Spanish don't use that accent, at least not in that direction, to my knowledge (I've been studying the language for nearly three years now and have never encountered it). Now I could be wrong, it could be something that can be applied to names. Or that he's mis-spelt his name purposely for whatever reason. But what I'm saying is the accent's presence makes me suspicious as to its authenticity.Hmmm.... accent in the final e is pointing in the wrong direction. Spoof?Another one not happy.
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In other words, "I want to leave this mad house!"
hmmm...so, if I understand this correctly, what you are suggesting is that Traore wouldn't spell his own name incorrectly?
What I'm saying is that the Spanish don't use that accent, at least not in that direction, to my knowledge (I've been studying the language for nearly three years now and have never encountered it). Now I could be wrong, it could be something that can be applied to names. Or that he's mis-spelt his name purposely for whatever reason. But what I'm saying is the accent's presence makes me suspicious as to its authenticity.Hmmm.... accent in the final e is pointing in the wrong direction. Spoof?Another one not happy.
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In other words, "I want to leave this mad house!"
hmmm...so, if I understand this correctly, what you are suggesting is that Traore wouldn't spell his own name incorrectly?
I've just had a look and it's definitely his real page. Either that or somebody's gone to an incredible amount of trouble over several years, having got hold of lots of Adama's personal photos in order to troll the Villa fans!
I've just had a look and it's definitely his real page. Either that or somebody's gone to an incredible amount of trouble over several years, having got hold of lots of Adama's personal photos in order to troll the Villa fans!
Why aren't you selecting him for the matchday 18 Eric?
Please explain to us in detail.
We just don't understand.
With your 35 years in the game and all that valuable exexperience there must be a reason.
Just tell us Eric.
I've just had a look and it's definitely his real page. Either that or somebody's gone to an incredible amount of trouble over several years, having got hold of lots of Adama's personal photos in order to troll the Villa fans!
Why aren't you selecting him for the matchday 18 Eric?
Please explain to us in detail.
We just don't understand.
With your 35 years in the game and all that valuable exexperience there must be a reason.
Just tell us Eric.
What tune is that? Not sure it's gonna scan.
Given our season it's a miracle this superstar is still here. You'd have thought Barcalona would have rectified their administrational mistake and bought him back by now. Not to mention the premiership scouts who must have copped his game winning performances for us. Obviously Sherwood, Garde and now Black are determined to ruin his career and stop the "black Messi" taking his rightful place in our first XI
From the very little I have seen so far, he seems to have a lot of potential, but is so long way from joining all the dots up yet. If the wage rumours are true, then we need to find a buyer because that is not value for money.
He's not had a proper run of games for a number of reasons. The mistakes he makes at PL level would be punished coupled with his lack of covering and chasing back. Championship teams simply aren't as good overall and if he stays he'll have a really good chance at developing by actually playing and learning.
I was at Selhurst Park earlier in the season. Troare came on and 5 minutes later we had equalised, he absolutely terrorised their defence. Only Guzan's bi weekly error cost us the game.
I just don't understand why our managers insist on not playing him. Like the previous poster said, what have we got to lose?
I agree Brian. He will be a champions league regular somewhere in the next couple of sesasons. You could plsy him down the middle just to use his pace and be miles better off than we are now
That's exactly my point. Taking risks, what risk?I was at Selhurst Park earlier in the season. Troare came on and 5 minutes later we had equalised, he absolutely terrorised their defence. Only Guzan's bi weekly error cost us the game.
I just don't understand why our managers insist on not playing him. Like the previous poster said, what have we got to lose?
Managers fall into safe mode at the very thought of taking risks or anybody who isn't nqturally going to track back well thats a total no no. Hence no Adama, No Grealish. Kieren Richardson is preferred because he is the ultimate safe mode player.
That's exactly my point. Taking risks, what risk?I was at Selhurst Park earlier in the season. Troare came on and 5 minutes later we had equalised, he absolutely terrorised their defence. Only Guzan's bi weekly error cost us the game.
I just don't understand why our managers insist on not playing him. Like the previous poster said, what have we got to lose?
Managers fall into safe mode at the very thought of taking risks or anybody who isn't nqturally going to track back well thats a total no no. Hence no Adama, No Grealish. Kieren Richardson is preferred because he is the ultimate safe mode player.
It's just dawned on me. Maybe that's why he's not getting picked.They don't want him in the shop window.I agree Brian. He will be a champions league regular somewhere in the next couple of sesasons. You could plsy him down the middle just to use his pace and be miles better off than we are now
I agree I'm going to be gutted when he inevitably leaves.
As my son says about Leicester. Schmeical catches a corner, throws it out to Vardy. Vardy runs and kicks it in the goal.i can see why this plan would not work, you mention a goalkeeper catching?
He's not had a proper run of games for a number of reasons. The mistakes he makes at PL level would be punished coupled with his lack of covering and chasing back. Championship teams simply aren't as good overall and if he stays he'll have a really good chance at developing by actually playing and learning.
The lack of covering and chasing back, though, is something coaches should be instilling in him, not just saying, 'oh, he doesn't do it, so we can't play him.'
He's not had a proper run of games for a number of reasons. The mistakes he makes at PL level would be punished coupled with his lack of covering and chasing back. Championship teams simply aren't as good overall and if he stays he'll have a really good chance at developing by actually playing and learning.
In the wider picture of the ineptitudes, shortcomings and offences against football that we've been exposed to by our 'team' this season, the fact Traore doesn't track back much doesn't merit even the slightest concern.
I think in 5 years we will all be gutted we didn't see more of Traore. Kids got real talent. The least we can do is let him loose on Newcastle from the start.
I think in 5 years we will all be gutted we didn't see more of Traore. Kids got real talent. The least we can do is let him loose on Newcastle from the start.
I would put money on all of the French lads going on to look great in other sides with less chaos around them. I'm sure Veretout for example would have looked great in the Leicester side this season for example.
I think in 5 years we will all be gutted we didn't see more of Traore. Kids got real talent. The least we can do is let him loose on Newcastle from the start.
I would put money on all of the French lads going on to look great in other sides with less chaos around them. I'm sure Veretout for example would have looked great in the Leicester side this season for example.
Jeez .... bet Ranieri is kicking himself
Who gives a fuck if he tracks back properly? He's 19, how many players are complete at that age for starters. We lose comfortably every week even with the senior players tracking back like pros, yeah I laughed as well typing that last bit! And we've been gone for months, Adama is pretty much the only exciting player at the club, how about they make some effort to actually entertain us instead of serving up the shit that loses meekly any way.
No I didn't - you clearly pointed out that Veretoute would look good in the Leicester team.
My point is that you're wrong. He's just not very good - regardless of the level of surrounding chaos.
No I didn't - you clearly pointed out that Veretoute would look good in the Leicester team.
My point is that you're wrong. He's just not very good - regardless of the level of surrounding chaos.
So if I understand this correctly, what you are saying is that the Veretout that was so highly rated in France playing for Nantes, played in the midfield with Pogba and Kondongbia that won the U-20 World Cup in 2013, was universally well received when he was signed is now crap? And furthermore he wouldn't have benefited from playing in a team that worked hard together, where there has been great unity throughout the club and that is about to win the title? He'd have failed there too right?
actually, I'll correct myself - I don't agree with the bit about him being universally well received. I was always far from convinced.
Surely now is the time to experiment and see what players who have not been selected can do especially in defence.I thought that last week, and the week before, and the week before that, and the week.....
Oft quoted. "the best form of defence is attack".
I assumed he meant well received on seeing him play for us.
But if you're going back to the time he was brought then he, like all the overseas signings, he was unproven/risky and therefore again not universally well received when some (including the manager at the time) wanted players with a proven pedigree to replace Benteke and Delph.
Ranieri didn't rate him high enough to actually get him.
Ranieri didn't rate him high enough to actually get him.
You know that doesn't make sense, right?
Leicester offered more money to Nantes than we did and wanted to make him the most expensive signing in their history.
He (rather stupidly) had his heart set on joining us.
Surprised? Astounded more like.
Far better off cashing in on any potential sales value for any of the current midfield and letting the right manager start again. More than worth the risk.
Ranieri didn't rate him high enough to actually get him.
You know that doesn't make sense, right?
Leicester offered more money to Nantes than we did and wanted to make him the most expensive signing in their history.
He (rather stupidly) had his heart set on joining us.
Ouch.
Maybe some of our players have performed poorly due to what they have been asked to do? Managers trying to use players for something they are not suitable for - this is what some think Klopp has done with Liverpool.
Has it been suggested that as he came from Barcelona he might think he is Billy big bollocks and thinks he does not have to put the effort in?
Has it been suggested that as he came from Barcelona he might think he is Billy big bollocks and thinks he does not have to put the effort in?
I would like to see him playing off Gestede in a more central role. I could see him terrifying defences playing on their shoulders
Has it been suggested that as he came from Barcelona he might think he is Billy big bollocks and thinks he does not have to put the effort in?
I would like to see him playing off Gestede in a more central role. I could see him terrifying defences playing on their shoulders
Disagree, was in the holte for Bournemouth and I remember with 10 minutes to go and 2 down Adama was sprinting to get the ball for Boruc to take a GK when most of the other players couldn't wait to get off the pitch.
Maybe on the training pitch he's a difficult character but it just baffles me he hasn't had a proper chance, surely he needs 4-5 starts in a row before we properly judge. We've been relegated for weeks and he still can't get anywhere near!
Personally hope he stays as most championship defences struggle against pace so think he'd create real havoc down there.
Has it been suggested that as he came from Barcelona he might think he is Billy big bollocks and thinks he does not have to put the effort in?
I would like to see him playing off Gestede in a more central role. I could see him terrifying defences playing on their shoulders
Disagree, was in the holte for Bournemouth and I remember with 10 minutes to go and 2 down Adama was sprinting to get the ball for Boruc to take a GK when most of the other players couldn't wait to get off the pitch.
Maybe on the training pitch he's a difficult character but it just baffles me he hasn't had a proper chance, surely he needs 4-5 starts in a row before we properly judge. We've been relegated for weeks and he still can't get anywhere near!
Personally hope he stays as most championship defences struggle against pace so think he'd create real havoc down there.
As I've said before, if they're worried about his tracking back/defensive abilities then I can see the logic of not starting him, where it falls down for me is that we didn't give him half an hour against tiring defenders a lot more often, someone who goes from standing to full pace in 2-3 steps and has the ball on a string is deadly late in a game and should have, at the least, been our supersub.
Has it been suggested that as he came from Barcelona he might think he is Billy big bollocks and thinks he does not have to put the effort in?
I would like to see him playing off Gestede in a more central role. I could see him terrifying defences playing on their shoulders
Disagree, was in the holte for Bournemouth and I remember with 10 minutes to go and 2 down Adama was sprinting to get the ball for Boruc to take a GK when most of the other players couldn't wait to get off the pitch.
Maybe on the training pitch he's a difficult character but it just baffles me he hasn't had a proper chance, surely he needs 4-5 starts in a row before we properly judge. We've been relegated for weeks and he still can't get anywhere near!
Personally hope he stays as most championship defences struggle against pace so think he'd create real havoc down there.
As I've said before, if they're worried about his tracking back/defensive abilities then I can see the logic of not starting him, where it falls down for me is that we didn't give him half an hour against tiring defenders a lot more often, someone who goes from standing to full pace in 2-3 steps and has the ball on a string is deadly late in a game and should have, at the least, been our supersub.
the flaw in that argument of course is that we never actually played against tiring defenders because we were the laziest, fattest and un-fittest side on the planet.
The last three months have been painful viewing for Adama Traore.
A claret-and-blue career that began so explosively was halted when the jet-heeled winger broke a bone in his foot during the New Year's Day clash at Sunderland.
The injury was sustained just minutes after Adama had shown another glimpse of his electrifying potential with an assist for Carles Gil's spectacular volley.
By the time the he returned to first team duty in our defeat to Bournemouth earlier this month, the club's Barclays Premier League fate was as good as sealed and the 20-year-old was left wondering what might have been.
He admits his enforced period of inactivity during Villa's slump left him feeling helpless.
"I felt sad because I couldn't help my team-mates," said the Barcelona academy graduate.
"Nobody likes to be at the bottom of the table and I have felt sad because I haven't been able to contribute to the team.
"It's been very frustrating watching on and not being able to get out there and make a difference on the pitch with my performances."
With relegation from the Barclays Premier League already confirmed, Villa are merely playing for pride in the final three games of the campaign.
But Adama insists there will be no let-up in his efforts.
National newspaper reporters picked up quotes wrongly attributed to him from a fake Facebook account saying he was angry at not being involved under Eric Black.
In reality, he realises he has to keep working hard to earn the respect of the football family.
"It is my dream to be the best player possible," he said.
"And when you have a dream you just follow it.
"I know that if I carrying on fighting I will make my dream come true.
"Over the past few months overall I have been working really hard.
"I haven't relaxed at all in my time off injured. I have been putting in the hours to be the best I possibly can be."
Opportunities to impress the Villa Park crowd may have been few and far between but Adama has still on occasions had supporters out of their seats.
Scoring against Notts County in the Capital One Cup on his home debut back in August 2015 is a moment he reflects on fondly.
"The stadium is incredible and it is just fantastic when everyone is happy and excited following a goal," he continued.
"I hope that is that is going to happen again soon - to get good vibes and see the team score."
Adama was given the opportunity to sharpen up his match fitness with a couple of appearances for our promotion-chasing U21s side.
And his outings for Kevin MacDonald's team have filled him with confidence that there is a brighter future in store for Villa, once a line is drawn under this season's difficulties.
He has particularly relished the chance to work in tandem with fellow wideman Jack Grealish.
"I believe Jack is a great player and a good mate as well," he said.
"It is always a pleasure to be able to compete with him and play together again.
"I think they are good players in the U21s with great potential to improve through hard work and I am happy to play with them.
"They are young and can get better in many things, just like I can."
Having honed his skills at Barcelona's famed La Masia academy, Adama is keen to maintain the values he learned during his 11 years with the Spanish giants.
The men from the Camp Nou have endured a difficult couple of weeks with a surprise exit from the Champions League and a dip in their La Liga form.
Adama is still in close contact with some of his former team-mates in Catalonia and believes they will return to their best in the final stretch of the season.
"Barcelona is a club where I grew up as a person and as a footballer," he added.
"I will always be grateful to them. I have learnt a lot of values there, from the football perspective but as well as from a personal point of view.
"They taught me how to be a professional player on and off the field. Now I want to grow here.
"What I have learnt from my time at Barcelona is the invisible work that goes on off the pitch. It's about the fine details.
"It's about working hard, resting when you need to, leading a healthy life, having a support structure around you. These factors help you improve.
"I am still in touch with some of the players in the Barcelona team and I think overall they are having a good season.
"However it has not finished and things can change because the season develops with time. I wish them well and hope that they can finish in a good place with good results."
I hope we have a % of his next transfer - Chelsea want him!
I hope we have a % of his next transfer - Chelsea want him!
Just had a comedy mental image of you sitting on a sofa wearing nhs specs and a grimy yellow striped shirt, delivering that last line, ST.Mental image, or you've hooked into my webcam.