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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: AV82EC on June 01, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
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For those like me who still haven't got over it, here's the whole 58 years.....
57/58 3 Stoke City
58/59 S Nottingham Forest
59/60 S Wolverhampton Wanderers
60/61 5 Tottenham Hotspur
61/62 Q Tottenham Hotspur
62/63 4 Manchester United
63/64 3 Aldershot
64/65 5 Wolverhampton Wanderers
65/66 3 Leicester City
66/67 4 Liverpool
67/68 4 Rotherham
68/69 5 Tottenham Hotspur
69/70 3 Charlton Athletic
70/71 1 Torquay United
71/72 1 Southend United
72/73 3 Everton
73/74 5 Burnley
74/75 5 Ipswich Town
75/76 3 Southampton
76/77 Q Manchester United
77/78 3 Everton
78/79 3 Nottingham Forest
79/80 Q West Ham United
80/81 3 Ipswich Town
81/82 5 Tottenham Hotspur
82/83 Q Arsenal
83/84 3 Norwich City
84/85 3 Liverpool
85/86 4 Millwall
86/87 3 Chelsea
87/88 4 Liverpool
88/89 4 Wimbledon
89/90 Q Oldham Athletic
90/91 3 Wimbledon
91/92 Q Liverpool
92/93 4 Wimbledon
93/94 5 Bolton Wanderers
94/95 4 Manchester City
95/96 S Liverpool
96/97 4 Derby County
97/98 5 Coventry City
98/99 4 Fulham
99/00 F Chelsea
00/01 4 Leicester City
01/02 3 Manchester United
02/03 3 Blackburn Rovers
03/04 3 Manchester United
04/05 3 Sheffield United
05/06 5 Manchester City
06/07 3 Manchester United
07/08 3 Manchester United
08/09 5 Everton
09/10 S Chelsea
10/11 5 Manchester City
11/12 4 Arsenal
12/13 4 Millwall
13/14 3 Sheffield United
14/15 F Arsenal
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It'll never make a catchy song with that title.
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Not been particularly strong in it have we?
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How typically Villa: to surrender the defence of the trophy in the third round...
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Perversely that has made me reminisce about us losing to Arsenal in 1983. I'd managed to successfully block that out and didn't even give it a second thought before the final until you posted this. The most memorable thing for me from that day was the massive hike after the match escorted by the ever so helpful police to some distant tube station (I can't remember the name of it - but it felt like bloody miles although that could have been my frame of mind after the 2-0 defeat.) Oh well the quest for the Holy Grail continues...
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12 times into quarters (21%), 6 times into semi (10%) , 2 times in final (3%).
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After losing the 2000 final we won one tie in the next five years. Gulp.
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Two memories stick out to me (negatively). First we were bloody awful against Oldham Athletic in 1989/90. Live on telly as well. Secondly there was someone on H & V being very blasé about the match with Everton in 08/09, as we were doing well in the league that year. Then he was equally blasé about the Europa League. Then we f*cked up our top 4 chances.
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Arsenal have won 9 (16%) of the FA Cups during the same period, appearing in 13 (22%)finals
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Don't forget the old 'Villa have a good cup pedigree' that was always pedalled out by TV/press a few years back...............from the 19th century maybe, yes.
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For those like me who still haven't got over it, here's the whole 58 years.....
57/58 3 Stoke City
58/59 S Nottingham Forest
59/60 S Wolverhampton Wanderers
60/61 5 Tottenham Hotspur
61/62 Q Tottenham Hotspur
62/63 4 Manchester United
63/64 3 Aldershot
64/65 5 Wolverhampton Wanderers
65/66 3 Leicester City
66/67 4 Liverpool
67/68 4 Rotherham
68/69 5 Tottenham Hotspur
69/70 3 Charlton Athletic
70/71 1 Torquay United
71/72 1 Southend United
72/73 3 Everton
73/74 5 Burnley
74/75 5 Ipswich Town
75/76 3 Southampton
76/77 Q Manchester United
77/78 3 Everton
78/79 3 Nottingham Forest
79/80 Q West Ham United
80/81 3 Ipswich Town
81/82 5 Tottenham Hotspur
82/83 Q Arsenal
83/84 3 Norwich City
84/85 3 Liverpool
85/86 4 Millwall
86/87 3 Chelsea
87/88 4 Liverpool
88/89 4 Wimbledon
89/90 Q Oldham Athletic
90/91 3 Wimbledon
91/92 Q Liverpool
92/93 4 Wimbledon
93/94 5 Bolton Wanderers
94/95 4 Manchester City
95/96 S Liverpool
96/97 4 Derby County
97/98 5 Coventry City
98/99 4 Fulham
99/00 F Chelsea
00/01 4 Leicester City
01/02 3 Manchester United
02/03 3 Blackburn Rovers
03/04 3 Manchester United
04/05 3 Sheffield United
05/06 5 Manchester City
06/07 3 Manchester United
07/08 3 Manchester United
08/09 5 Everton
09/10 S Chelsea
10/11 5 Manchester City
11/12 4 Arsenal
12/13 4 Millwall
13/14 3 Sheffield United
14/15 F Arsenal
Thanks Peter.
Have you been slitting your wrists this afternoon or something to want to post that?
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It's an appalling record, to the point where you just have to laugh about it. Look at the state of the 2000's. Bloody hell.
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I learned something from this thread.
We have played in the 1st round of the FA Cup, but never in the 2nd round.
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Two memories stick out to me (negatively). First we were bloody awful against Oldham Athletic in 1989/90. Live on telly as well. Secondly there was someone on H & V being very blasé about the match with Everton in 08/09, as we were doing well in the league that year. Then he was equally blasé about the Europa League. Then we f*cked up our top 4 chances.
I seem to remember we took a real pasting off Everton, didn't we?
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Looking on the bright side, the Noses list of exits is a damn sight longer.
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God we're shit and what makes me REALLY ANGRY is that we've been shit for the best part of a HUNDRED YEARS.
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Looking on the bright side, the Noses list of exits is a damn sight longer.
And includes words like 'Altrincham' and 'Kidderminster.'
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It's an appalling record, to the point where you just have to laugh about it. Look at the state of the 2000's. Bloody hell.
Bookended quite nicely by an appalling Final and semi final!
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Aldershot FFS !!
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Apologies if posting it has bought back some bad memories, a few more stat facts
We've lost to the eventual winners 15 times and runners up 4 times in those 58 seasons, so maybe the expression "beat the Villa, win the Cup" from the early 60s when it happened 5 years in a row isn't so far wrong.
Unsurprisingly ManYew have knocked us out the most with 6 followed by Liverpool on 5 then Spurs on 4. Citeh, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Wimbledon then with 3 each. It has to be said we don't get knocked out by lower league opposition very often and as others have said the names Altrincham, Sutton Utd and Woking don't appear on the list anywhere. The most embarrassing one I'd wager would be Aldershot in 1963?
The fact we've only got to qtr final or better on 12/58 attempts (20% or 1 season in 5) is woeful for a club of our size.
The last time we won it in 1957, neither Liverpool or Chelsea had ever won it and now they're both level with us, Spurs had won it twice, Arsenal 3 times and United twice all now ahead of us.
I'm going to shut up, I'm depressing myself.......and my anorak is getting a bit warm
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Some very bad memories in modern times.
The annual and predictable draw of Manchester United in the third round. If at home the Villa end being filled with ManUre supporters who've travelled up to Brum from the Manchester suburbs of Barnet, High Wycombe and Crawley, being drubbed and having Fergie time added on with a ref who ought to be in a ManUre shirt.
The last couple of seasons being dispatched by Millwall on a Friday night and the mighty Sheffield United.
Bloody Wimbledon.
Seeing that smug git Dennis Wise lift the trophy in 2000 after our capitulation against Chelsea.
Seeing the equally smug git Wilshere lording it yesterday and behaving in a manner that had it been a fan, would have resulted in a Section 3 Public Order charge, a night in the cells, a trip before the beak and a banning order.
58 years of misery. Tim - for McGraths sake you need to end this once and for all.
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Does it show us we're not as big as we think we are?
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Apologies if posting it has bought back some bad memories, a few more stat facts
We've lost to the eventual winners 15 times and runners up 4 times in those 58 seasons, so maybe the expression "beat the Villa, win the Cup" from the early 60s when it happened 5 years in a row isn't so far wrong.
Unsurprisingly ManYew have knocked us out the most with 6 followed by Liverpool on 5 then Spurs on 4. Citeh, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Wimbledon then with 3 each. It has to be said we don't get knocked out by lower league opposition very often and as others have said the names Altrincham, Sutton Utd and Woking don't appear on the list anywhere. The most embarrassing one I'd wager would be Aldershot in 1963?
The fact we've only got to qtr final or better on 12/58 attempts (20% or 1 season in 5) is woeful for a club of our size.
The last time we won it in 1957, neither Liverpool or Chelsea had ever won it and now they're both level with us, Spurs had won it twice, Arsenal 3 times and United twice all now ahead of us.
I'm going to shut up, I'm depressing myself.......and my anorak is getting a bit warm
On the bright side, I reckon once we ever get going again, we'll be unfuckingstoppable.
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Does it show us we're not as big as we think we are?
I think so. We've been successful in the League Cup 60-70s and mid 90s, had a 2 year spell in the early 80s and a few runners up placings. Perhaps we need to reassess if we are as big as we think we are as we haven't performed like one consistently for decades if not a century.
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Does it show us we're not as big as we think we are?
Is a football club not nothing more than the collective memories of its supporters? In which case we'll always be huge. Our First Eleven just need to act accordingly. Unlike Saturday.
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Of course we are. Maybe not recently, but over the course of time most definitely.
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Does it show us we're not as big as we think we are?
Pretty much, top 10 club but not a top 4 club.
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It all started for me with...
66/67 4 Liverpool - My 2nd ever away game, the 1st being Preston in round 3. 9 years old and my Dad took me. Incredible atmosphere and the packed Kop then was awesome. The Holte was bigger but at this point I was only used to seeing it at best half full. We were down the bottom and sinking fast, Shanklys Liverpool a real powerhouse. For the first 30 minutes of the game we dominated, we really went at them with purpose and had them on the back foot. Then, nothing. Went into a defensive shell and Liverpool took over and it was just a matter of time. Lost 1-0 and out we went.
(http://i2.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article9070222.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1965-03-10-leicester-yeatsheader-276.jpg)
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The last time we won it in 1957, neither Liverpool or Chelsea had ever won it and now they're both level with us, Spurs had won it twice, Arsenal 3 times and United twice all now ahead of us.
I'm not sure if that makes me happy or sad.
I've been mooching around the Wiki FA Cup finals page. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FA_Cup_finals) I'd say that Blackburn Rovers (6 wins, last in 1928) and Sheffields Utd and Wednesday (4 and 3, 1925 and 1935) pip us in the underachieving stakes.
I'm snorting up crumbs of comfort like Lindsey Lohan on day release.
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It all started for me with...
66/67 4 Liverpool - My 2nd ever away game, the 1st being Preston in round 3. 9 years old and my Dad took me. Incredible atmosphere and the packed Kop then was awesome. The Holte was bigger but at this point I was only used to seeing it at best half full. We were down the bottom and sinking fast, Shanklys Liverpool a real powerhouse. For the first 30 minutes of the game we dominated, we really went at them with purpose and had them on the back foot. Then, nothing. Went into a defensive shell and Liverpool took over and it was just a matter of time. Lost 1-0 and out we went.
(http://i2.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article9070222.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1965-03-10-leicester-yeatsheader-276.jpg)
Wow, lovely to hear that first hand from the past and a newspaper cutting! Sent a little shiver down my spine.
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Could be worse . Wanderers FC won it five times and then nothing since 1878...
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How does our record compare to other clubs of our current stature? Spurs? Everton? Leeds? Man City up until they won the lottery. I'd be surprised if our record wasn't comparable or better than even those four.
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How does our record compare to other clubs of our current stature? Spurs? Everton? Leeds? Man City up until they won the lottery. I'd be surprised if our record wasn't comparable or better than even those four.
Spurs last won it in 1991, Everton in 1995, Leeds in 1972 and Citeh in 1968 prior to the lottery win.
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How about in terms of finals, semi-finals and quarter-finals. Before we beat ourselves up too much...
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How about in terms of finals, semi-finals and quarter-finals. Before we beat ourselves up too much...
Haven't a clue and my anorak isn't that big that I give a fuck what that lot did.
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
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How does our record compare to other clubs of our current stature? Spurs? Everton? Leeds? Man City up until they won the lottery. I'd be surprised if our record wasn't comparable or better than even those four.
Spurs last won it in 1991, Everton in 1995, Leeds in 1972 and Citeh in 1968 prior to the lottery win.
Don't forget Newcastle. 1956?
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How about in terms of finals, semi-finals and quarter-finals. Before we beat ourselves up too much...
Its winning it that matters though.
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
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Crikey that list is an exercise in masochistic nostalgia.As a kid I was convinced we were going all the way to Wembley in 68/69 having dumped out QPR and Southampton under the doc.And then we got Spurs away and went out narrowly.Bloody Tottenham always ended my dreams in the late sixties early seventies! :)
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How many times do we go out in the earlier rounds because we rest our key players? We had a great run of home games, mostly against lower league opposition and found ourselves in the semi-final against Liverpool and were better than them on the day. This was with Lambert's Villa and a side that would finish 17th. If we can build ourselves over the next few years and take the earlier rounds more seriously we could find ourselves making more appearances in finals - some the opposition won't be quite so good and we can be a damn sight better.
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It will just make it all the sweeter when we win it in 2016.
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It will just make it all the sweeter when we win it in 2016.
I think that there is such a thing as cup momentum and if we can find a way of maintaining it beyond the first minute of the final there's a chance of winning the thing.If nothing else those remaining from this season's squad now have some pretty unique experience of real cup extremes to draw up on.
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Straws are for clutching: in the past 21 years we have appeared at Wembley 8 times and won 4 times - 50% success! How does that compare with our notional equals Newcastle, Everton etc.?
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
The Villa Park exit was particularly horrendous, Wimbledon being the holders notwithstanding. I can still picture Vinnie Jones swinging at the ball and gently connecting with his studs, it deflecting off off a defender and rolling under Spink's dive.
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Crikey that list is an exercise in masochistic nostalgia.As a kid I was convinced we were going all the way to Wembley in 68/69 having dumped out QPR and Southampton under the doc.And then we got Spurs away and went out narrowly.Bloody Tottenham always ended my dreams in the late sixties early seventies! :)
I remember that Spurs cup match very well. The first attempt to play it at White Hart Lane was called off due to the snowy conditions when we were half way down the motorway!. The second we gave it our all but Greavsie scored twice and that was that for another year.
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That West Ham defeat in 1980 took some getting over especially the manner of it.
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Crikey that list is an exercise in masochistic nostalgia.As a kid I was convinced we were going all the way to Wembley in 68/69 having dumped out QPR and Southampton under the doc.And then we got Spurs away and went out narrowly.Bloody Tottenham always ended my dreams in the late sixties early seventies! :)
I remember that Spurs cup match very well. The first attempt to play it at White Hart Lane was called off due to the snowy conditions when we were half way down the motorway!. The second we gave it our all but Greavsie scored twice and that was that for another year.
Crikey that list is an exercise in masochistic nostalgia.As a kid I was convinced we were going all the way to Wembley in 68/69 having dumped out QPR and Southampton under the doc.And then we got Spurs away and went out narrowly.Bloody Tottenham always ended my dreams in the late sixties early seventies! :)
I remember that Spurs cup match very well. The first attempt to play it at White Hart Lane was called off due to the snowy conditions when we were half way down the motorway!. The second we gave it our all but Greavsie scored twice and that was that for another year.
Crikey that list is an exercise in masochistic nostalgia.As a kid I was convinced we were going all the way to Wembley in 68/69 having dumped out QPR and Southampton under the doc.And then we got Spurs away and went out narrowly.Bloody Tottenham always ended my dreams in the late sixties early seventies! :)
I remember that Spurs cup match very well. The first attempt to play it at White Hart Lane was called off due to the snowy conditions when we were half way down the motorway!. The second we gave it our all but Greavsie scored twice and that was that for another year.
That would have been my first ever away game. We were on the Harpers coach outside The Yenton, when the news came through.
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
In the whole smörgåsbord of Cup exits that I've had served up to me by the Villa, a last minute extra-time defeat watched from the open terrace at Plough Lane in a January monsoon will always rank up there as one of the most miserable football-related evenings of my life.
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That West Ham defeat in 1980 took some getting over especially the manner of it.
Considering it was only a QF it was quite a hard one to take.
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was one of those wimbledon exits a replay. I travelled down for a midweek game but it was called off due to fog. then went down for the re-arranged fixture. was that a cup match i recall we lost
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We were drawn at home to Wimbledon on all three occasions. As far as the defeats go:
89 was the first game at Villa Park.
91 was the last minute replay defeat at Plough Lane
93 was in the replay at Selhurst Park when we first got to realise that Kevin Richardson couldn't take penalties.
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Wasn't the replay played in mad fog as well?
Fucking Wimbledon. All the hatred for MK Dons made me forget how much I despised those bastards 20-odd years ago.
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Wasn't the replay played in mad fog as well?
Fucking Wimbledon. All the hatred for MK Dons made me forget how much I despised those bastards 20-odd years ago.
That 1989 game was the most thuggish performance from an opposition I can remember, worse than any game against Small Heath.
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Wasn't the replay played in mad fog as well?
Fucking Wimbledon. All the hatred for MK Dons made me forget how much I despised those bastards 20-odd years ago.
That 1989 game was the most thuggish performance from an opposition I can remember, worse than any game against Small Heath.
Summed up by an interview with Vinnie Jones around the time where he said his job was to foul the toughest bloke on the other team as early as possible in the game. When asked who that was on the Villa team, he said "Gordon Cowans".
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
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Let's hope that the reaction to the Albion and Liverpool wins and the wembley turnout will be remembered when future managers ponder over how important the FA cup is.
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
I was at that Quarter Final, aged 8. To me it Was The One.
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Portsmouth an Sunderland to follow wasn't it, for them ?
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Portsmouth an Sunderland to follow wasn't it, for them ?
Preceded by Crewe, Bristol Rovers and Ipswich.
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Portsmouth an Sunderland to follow wasn't it, for them ?
Preceded by Crewe, Bristol Rovers and Ipswich.
They beat Portsmouth (managed by Jim Smith I think) on penalties at Villa Park after a draw at Highbury. I'm sure it was one of those shoot outs with loads of misses that ended up something like 2-0.
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Portsmouth an Sunderland to follow wasn't it, for them ?
Preceded by Crewe, Bristol Rovers and Ipswich.
They beat Portsmouth (managed by Jim Smith I think) on penalties at Villa Park after a draw at Highbury. I'm sure it was one of those shoot outs with loads of misses that ended up something like 2-0.
And that was after they got a jammy late equaliser in the last minute of extra time in the original game.
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Wasn't the replay played in mad fog as well?
Fucking Wimbledon. All the hatred for MK Dons made me forget how much I despised those bastards 20-odd years ago.
That 1989 game was the most thuggish performance from an opposition I can remember, worse than any game against Small Heath.
Was that the game that Tony Cascarino missed an absolute sitter in the dying minutes in front of the Holte?
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Wasn't the replay played in mad fog as well?
Fucking Wimbledon. All the hatred for MK Dons made me forget how much I despised those bastards 20-odd years ago.
That 1989 game was the most thuggish performance from an opposition I can remember, worse than any game against Small Heath.
Was that the game that Tony Cascarino missed an absolute sitter in the dying minutes in front of the Holte?
Cascarino didn't sign until March 1990.
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So, would it be some kind of a record to have :
Been knocked out of the FA Cup twice in the calendar year - 1970
and not to have played an FA Cup game in the calendar year - 1972 despite us entering it every year ?
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
In the whole smörgåsbord of Cup exits that I've had served up to me by the Villa, a last minute extra-time defeat watched from the open terrace at Plough Lane in a January monsoon will always rank up there as one of the most miserable football-related evenings of my life.
Agreed. As a reply to the entrance to Villa Memories, this one must be in with a chance of winning "wettest" match.
I think the trench coat I wore that night is still drying out.
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
Was that the 1-0 at Anfield with the sudden appearance of the yellow 3rd kit and Dariuz Kubicki's debut?
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
Was that the 1-0 at Anfield with the sudden appearance of the yellow 3rd kit and Dariuz Kubicki's debut?
Yep that's the one, BFRs claret and blue army all the way through half time and total heartbreak. I think it's the most upset I've ever been after a match ever. Typical of our luck though, 2 Division 1 clubs and 6 Division 2 clubs in the Qtr finals and we draw each other!
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
Was that the 1-0 at Anfield with the sudden appearance of the yellow 3rd kit and Dariuz Kubicki's debut?
Yep that's the one, BFRs claret and blue army all the way through half time and total heartbreak. I think it's the most upset I've ever been after a match ever. Typical of our luck though, 2 Division 1 clubs and 6 Division 2 clubs in the Qtr finals and we draw each other!
Yes, remember the feeling of "oh f¤¤king hell" when the draw was made.
Only just getting into the queue on the Sunday morning in time to actually get a ticket (the previous night had proved to be neither an all nighter or an early to bed to get up at 4am!)
The sinking feeling when Michael Thomas? scored thinking there was no way back from that. Huffed and puffed but I don't remember a good chance after we'd gone behind :(
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
Was that the 1-0 at Anfield with the sudden appearance of the yellow 3rd kit and Dariuz Kubicki's debut?
Yep that's the one, BFRs claret and blue army all the way through half time and total heartbreak. I think it's the most upset I've ever been after a match ever. Typical of our luck though, 2 Division 1 clubs and 6 Division 2 clubs in the Qtr finals and we draw each other!
There were six division one teams in the draw but we still got the hardest one. It's odd to think that this was the last quarter-final we lost and as joe_c said once, a generation of Villa supporters has grown up not knowing us lose one.
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
To those of us of a certain age 1992 was The One, not helped by Liverpool's ridiculously easy run to the final.
Was that the 1-0 at Anfield with the sudden appearance of the yellow 3rd kit and Dariuz Kubicki's debut?
Yep that's the one, BFRs claret and blue army all the way through half time and total heartbreak. I think it's the most upset I've ever been after a match ever. Typical of our luck though, 2 Division 1 clubs and 6 Division 2 clubs in the Qtr finals and we draw each other!
It was definitely the yellow kit day. I was wearing one. I thought Dariuz made his debut a lot earlier. I have got the game at The Dell just a handful or so games into the season in my mind.
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
In the whole smörgåsbord of Cup exits that I've had served up to me by the Villa, a last minute extra-time defeat watched from the open terrace at Plough Lane in a January monsoon will always rank up there as one of the most miserable football-related evenings of my life.
Agreed. As a reply to the entrance to Villa Memories, this one must be in with a chance of winning "wettest" match.
I think the trench coat I wore that night is still drying out.
That wasn't rain that night, it was a vertical tsunami. I was wearing a Crombie overcoat at the time and it trebled in weight with all the water. I remember getting back to the station thoroughly pissed off only for the old bill to stop me getting on the train with the rest of the Villa fans. They wanted 'a quiet word' so I was stuck there for ages. I suppose if that'd happened these days I could've filmed it on my phone and uploaded it to twitter to start the 'Free the Plough Lane One' campaign. #fascistcops #pisswetthru
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Maybe it was the first time I'd seen Dariuz in action then, or had he played a lot then suddenly been dropped?
Can't remember after all this time, just that there was something about his appearance / non appearance. Either way, not one of the happiest journeys home.
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Man U (various), Liverpool and this years effort were painful but Wimbledon was the one that felt like the hugest kick in the bollocks.
Which one, there are 3 exits to Wimbledon, saw 2 of them first hand, the 0-1 loss at Villa Park when Allan Evans missed a penalty and the Plough Lane replay when Alan Cork popped up deep into extra time to send us home in the rain the bald bastard.
In the whole smörgåsbord of Cup exits that I've had served up to me by the Villa, a last minute extra-time defeat watched from the open terrace at Plough Lane in a January monsoon will always rank up there as one of the most miserable football-related evenings of my life.
Agreed. As a reply to the entrance to Villa Memories, this one must be in with a chance of winning "wettest" match.
I think the trench coat I wore that night is still drying out.
That wasn't rain that night, it was a vertical tsunami. I was wearing a Crombie overcoat at the time and it trebled in weight with all the water. I remember getting back to the station thoroughly pissed off only for the old bill to stop me getting on the train with the rest of the Villa fans. They wanted 'a quiet word' so I was stuck there for ages. I suppose if that'd happened these days I could've filmed it on my phone and uploaded it to twitter to start the 'Free the Plough Lane One' campaign. #fascistcops #pisswetthru
I wasn't at Plough Lane that night but I was at Leeds Road in 1987. Was anyone at both? If so, firstly I admire you and secondly and most importantly - which was wettest?
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I was at Plough Lane and it is physically impossible to get any wetter!
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Sad fact alert. In the history if matches between Villa and Wimbledon I have never missed one. Home or away. It is no wonder the wife wants me committed.
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was one of those wimbledon exits a replay. I travelled down for a midweek game but it was called off due to fog. then went down for the re-arranged fixture. was that a cup match i recall we lost
ive seen us go out to Wimbledon at villa park, not sure what year it was, but a scuffed effort rolling slow motion across the Holte end goal line by I don't know who, to send us out, sufficed that year.
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Sad fact alert. In the history if matches between Villa and Wimbledon I have never missed one. Home or away. It is no wonder the wife wants me committed.
I don't know about having you committed. It is the crimes you must have committed in a previous life to have deserved going through all those Wimbledon games I would wonder about.
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Sad fact alert. In the history if matches between Villa and Wimbledon I have never missed one. Home or away. It is no wonder the wife wants me committed.
I don't know about having you committed. It is the crimes you must have committed in a previous life to have deserved going through all those Wimbledon games I would wonder about.
Hello Mr Hoddle, how's tricks :)
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
We're about the same age and I remember being gutted at the time. Was it a dodgy penalty? If anyone who was there or has a better memory can enlighten (and depress) us it would be appreciated. Cheers
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Here you go.
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What on earth was Ken thinking ?
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Ken reckoned that David Cross nudged his arm as the cross came in, causing KM to 'handle' the ball.
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My earliest memory is as a nine year old watching the wrestling on World Of Sport when the West Ham score came up and we had conceded the late penalty goal. I was at the Oldham QF game in 1990, which was pretty grim but we still had the league to play for. The one that got to me the most was Liverpool in '92. Phillip Don was ref and gave us nothing. It didn't help that they went on to win the trophy by beating two average second division sides. Looking through all those games from 1980 onwards, strangely the only one I can't recall at all is Everton in 2009.
We're about the same age and I remember being gutted at the time. Was it a dodgy penalty? If anyone who was there or has a better memory can enlighten (and depress) us it would be appreciated. Cheers
The West Ham penalty was Ken Mcnaught inexplicably jumping missing the flight of the ball and pushing the ball deliberately with his hand. To this day I have never understood why he did it.
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What on earth was Ken thinking ?
Are you talking about the penalty or deciding to join Albion?
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That would never be given today, and it shouldn't have been given then.