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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on May 12, 2015, 02:47:37 PM

Title: Omens
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 12, 2015, 02:47:37 PM
Falkirk will contest this years Scottish cup final - the last time they won it?

1957   :D :D :D :D :D :D

I have made sure that every item of clothing I wore for Semi final inclusive of socks, boxers and scarf will be available on the day
I will have the same breakfast and have agreed with my colleague we will crawl the same pubs in the same order

Me? superstitious?   nah
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: philp52 on May 12, 2015, 03:01:27 PM
I have worn the same socks and boxers for Spurs, Semi Final, Everton
& West Ham( washed in between Games before someone comments) ;)
Forgot for the Citeh game so we would be safe now.  Bollocks.
They are washed and ready for Saturday when we go to St Mary's.
UTV
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: oldtimernow on May 12, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
in 1957 February had just 28 days........in 2015 ....that's right 28 days again
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Richard E on May 12, 2015, 03:06:56 PM
Every time we have scored more goals than the opposition in a cup final we have gone on to win the trophy.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: amfy on May 12, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
Legion appears to be on a lucky streak!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: LeeB on May 12, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
We've only ever won the cup in a year beginning with 1.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: brian green on May 12, 2015, 03:41:55 PM
I am going to try to find the NHS glasses I wore to watch us win the FA cup.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: dave shelley on May 12, 2015, 04:03:49 PM
I wonder if the old Radio and Television shop up the Radley's still let's you take a telly out on appro? 
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: joe_c on May 12, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
I've worn the same t-shirt in every round.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: warleyboy on May 12, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
I've smeared my balls in raspberry jam pre match in every cup game so far ........
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Karl Bridges on May 12, 2015, 04:33:20 PM
I've smeared my balls in raspberry jam pre match in every cup game so far ........

Your labrador still got a thing for jam then?
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: not3bad on May 12, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
We won the cup in 1895 and 1957 didn't we?  That makes this a 5 year.

I sound like a Spurs fan. :(
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Mister E on May 12, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
I've smeared my balls in raspberry jam pre match in every cup game so far ........

Your labrador still got a thing for jam then?
ha, ha - excellent response Karl!
Nothing some Labs for your balls ...
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Jimbo on May 12, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
I haven't been for a number two since the semi final, and I won't again until we've won the cup.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Villan For Life on May 12, 2015, 06:00:39 PM
I haven't been for a number two since the semi final, and I won't again until we've won the cup.

Hopefully your wait will soon be over.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: supertom on May 12, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
I started seeing my Mrs in 2010. Villa were a decent, top 6 side. Since then though my personal life was excellent, the Villa have been shit for 5 years.
Things have been going downhill with the Mrs for a couple of months now (from around the time Timmy came to the club) and we're now splitting up.

I sense good things for the Villa. My relationship has almost been bookended by two cup finals. And this one we're going to win.

For the good of the club I will stay single until we've won the champions league.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: curiousorange on May 12, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
Back to the bite the bullet thread, then, Supertom? Seriously, commiserations.

Hope it's not an omen for me personally. Split up with my ex missus a few months after the League Cup Final.

My own omen thing is wearing my manky old 92/93 home shirt. It's about ready to fall apart but we've beaten Everton and West Ham so far. I'm not about to take a chance and the acid test will be Saturday lunchtime.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: supertom on May 12, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
Back to the bite the bullet thread, then, Supertom? Seriously, commiserations.

Hope it's not an omen for me personally. Split up with my ex missus a few months after the League Cup Final.

My own omen thing is wearing my manky old 92/93 home shirt. It's about ready to fall apart but we've beaten Everton and West Ham so far. I'm not about to take a chance and the acid test will be Saturday lunchtime.
I need a good pre-season before returning to the conundrum thread mate. ha ha.

I hope that manky shirt lasts until May 30th sir.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Legion on May 12, 2015, 06:46:42 PM
Sorry to hear that, Tom.

Will wear my Davenports shirt over my black sweatshirt and 1874 t-shirt (yet again). Same pair of jeans and thermal socks aswell. Freddy, PWS and I have sat together for every cup game this season plus I have always ordered and paid for the tickets. There is also the small matter of pauliewalnut's (I think) prophecy when he found out I was not renewing my ST for the first time in 16 or so years.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
All the best Tom.

Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 12, 2015, 06:57:40 PM
Who needs an orange dot with all this stuff. If we don't have the loudest fans by what has been written so far we may have the smelliest  ;)

One thing I really hope. If we do win the bugger I want them parading it on the 57 bus. Just how Fooking cool would that be :'(
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
Freddy, PWS and I have sat together for every cup game this season plus I have always ordered and paid for the tickets.

I would like to point out I do give him the money for MY tickets!

I don't look at my cup ticket until the day of the game.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: dave shelley on May 12, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
Sorry to hear that Tom, very sad for the both of you.  My Omen will be: to keep as far away from the telly, radio, and all aspects of social networking, and to hope for the best.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Billy Walker on May 12, 2015, 06:59:41 PM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Legion on May 12, 2015, 07:00:49 PM
Why, thank you! £260 with £60 travel please plus all of mine and Freddy's for the previous cup matches. Call it £400 in total as I'm feeling generous.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

I see a flaw in an other wise splendid omen.

John Gregory and Judas Wanker.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Although if they have 11 letters in their name and no J, we win!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 12, 2015, 07:07:05 PM
"Winners", Mr Shins.

Good work, Billy.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 12, 2015, 07:08:20 PM
I have worn my 1957 FA Cup winning shirt for every cup game so far.
Also: light blue cotton sweater underneath, claret sock on right foot, blue sock on left, same Levis and same "boots". Attended all of the games with my good mate John and his family.

Everything will be the same on the 30th.

Come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: exigo on May 12, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
Add the numbers 2, 0, 1 and 5 together and you get 8. The number of times we'll have won it.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 12, 2015, 07:28:26 PM
Sorry to be a party pooper but nothing you do or don't do will have any bearing on any result. Grow the f*** up and read the horoscopes you undoubtedly enjoy :-)
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: KRS on May 12, 2015, 07:39:55 PM
Try telling that to my new claret hoodie that ensured we beat Liverpool, Everton and West Ham...but we lost at Man City when I didn't wear it.

Title: Re: Omens
Post by: supertom on May 12, 2015, 08:20:34 PM
Thank you gentleman. Don't worry I'm sure if we win the FA Cup I'll cope with the break up.

In the mean time if you want me to stay single and maintain us as a decent side then I would suggest a whip round, just enough that I can get an escort once a month. It's in your best interests...;)
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: curiousorange on May 12, 2015, 10:39:35 PM
Thank you gentleman. Don't worry I'm sure if we win the FA Cup I'll cope with the break up.

In the mean time if you want me to stay single and maintain us as a decent side then I would suggest a whip round, just enough that I can get an escort once a month. It's in your best interests...;)

They do publish it monthly, which is handy for the newly single bloke.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: The Left Side on May 12, 2015, 11:45:33 PM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: ozzjim on May 13, 2015, 12:00:51 AM
I got a Villa lanyard given to me the day before we beat Albion in the league, which I duly affixed my work pass too. I was told I have to replace it with a work one, but pleaded my case that it has luck on its side and it will remain until after the final.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: ktvillan on May 13, 2015, 12:06:12 AM
It's the power of the pinstripes I tell ya.  The 57 Final shirt, the 82 final shirt, and .....
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Kingthing on May 13, 2015, 09:00:44 AM
Yesterday, despite there being better sections available, I gravitated to where we were for the semi, then realised it's exactly where I also was for beating Man U 3-1 and Leeds 3-0, for our defeats to Chelsea in the semi and Man U in the CCCF I was sat in different parts of the ground.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 13, 2015, 12:55:04 PM
I have heard that Sherwood is planning a tactical bit of genius and getting Graham Fenton out of retirement
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 13, 2015, 01:59:55 PM
Took an old armchair to the tip at the weekend and was just cleaning out the back of the car and spotted this on the floor. Not 1957 admittedly but it shows that the omens are in our favour.

(http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy44/morrissey2020/IMG_20150513_135110.jpg)
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Jimbo on May 13, 2015, 02:16:27 PM
Took an old armchair to the tip at the weekend and was just cleaning out the back of the car and spotted this on the floor. Not 1957 admittedly but it shows that the omens are in our favour.

(http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy44/morrissey2020/IMG_20150513_135110.jpg)

Wow, I never knew they made Minstrels as far back as the late 19th century.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 13, 2015, 02:44:35 PM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.

http://mystera-magazine.com/article/1111-phenomenon
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 15, 2015, 09:08:24 AM
I dreamt last night that we won, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: dave shelley on May 16, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
About four years ago Mrs S got me one of those money jars, the type that has a little digital counter on the top.  I chuck all my loose copper change into it.  This morning, I went to put some change in and noticed that the amount in there was...18:74.  That has to be an omen.  There will be no more change thrown in there until after the cup final.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: amfy on May 16, 2015, 11:19:04 PM
In 1978 we beat Ipswich 6-1.

A week later they went on to win the FA Cup....against....Arsenal.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: KRS on May 17, 2015, 01:55:46 AM
My claret hoody failed miserably today. Bitterly disappointed to admit that edgy satsuma was right...however the hoody will be put in the wash to remove any of the negativity from todays result before Burnley.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Villafirst on May 17, 2015, 06:14:54 AM
The best by far is the 1978 Ipswich omen. I was there on the old Holte. After we slaughtered them 6-1, I thought Arsenal will batter this lot in the Final.  How very different it turned out.....I seem to recall a young David Geddis having a blinder for Ipswich? Maybe that role will fall to young Jack Grealish?
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Billy Walker on May 17, 2015, 08:16:07 AM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.

Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.

http://mystera-magazine.com/article/1111-phenomenon

"Johnny Dixon" -  11 letters
"Fabian Delph" -   11 letters

Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 17, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.

Wembley Cup Winning Villa Managers since '57:

"Ron Saunders" - 11 letters
"Ron Atkinson" - 11 letters
"Brian Little" - 11 letters


..."Tim Sherwood"...  *gulp*!

Erm, John Gregory has 11 letters in his name.

http://mystera-magazine.com/article/1111-phenomenon

"Johnny Dixon" -  11 letters
"Fabian Delph" -   11 letters

Johnny Dixon - 6,5.
Fabian Delph - 6,5.

Ron Saunders - 3,8.
Ron Atkinson - 3,8.
Tim Sherwood - 3,8.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 17, 2015, 10:49:41 AM
If we went my omens we would have won the cup another 7 times during my lifetime.  Just taking this as a one off with everything crossed.

One stat that has emerged is Arsenal's poor form against better teams. 

Go on Villa go for it.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: spartacuss on May 17, 2015, 03:21:49 PM
May have been mentioned... re: yesterday's gubbing, but the week before the '57 FA Cup win, we were tonked by the mighty Luton Town 3 - 1, at home too!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Louzie0 on May 17, 2015, 05:55:45 PM
This afternoon on telly - Golden Gordon followed by The Great Escape!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Kingthing on May 17, 2015, 07:18:46 PM
In 1978 we beat Ipswich 6-1.

A week later they went on to win the FA Cup....against....Arsenal.

I like that one......very much!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 18, 2015, 12:09:55 AM
My claret hoody failed miserably today. Bitterly disappointed to admit that edgy satsuma was right...however the hoody will be put in the wash to remove any of the negativity from todays result before Burnley.

Maybe it was me telling everyone what a load of bollocks omens were...

I shall keep shtum.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Des Little on May 18, 2015, 01:45:13 PM
May have been mentioned... re: yesterday's gubbing, but the week before the '57 FA Cup win, we were tonked by the mighty Luton Town 3 - 1, at home too!

Come on Burnley!
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 18, 2015, 07:28:12 PM
Ha!

I'm with you Des. To show my support for Burnley I'm gonna wear a claret and blue scarf to the game.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: paulcomben on May 19, 2015, 09:22:24 PM
The best by far is the 1978 Ipswich omen. I was there on the old Holte. After we slaughtered them 6-1, I thought Arsenal will batter this lot in the Final.  How very different it turned out.....I seem to recall a young David Geddis having a blinder for Ipswich? Maybe that role will fall to young Jack Grealish?


That 6-1 win was my first ever visit to Villa Park and this omen is undoubtedly the one.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: not3bad on May 19, 2015, 10:59:19 PM
The week before Ipswich won the cup in 1978 we beat them 6-1.

Ipswich have also played Southampton.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Smoke on May 20, 2015, 01:51:00 AM
Can't believe nobody's mentioned that we beat Ipswich 6-1 before they beat arsenal in the Cup Final.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on May 20, 2015, 10:48:19 AM
What we really need is for a Gypsy lady to knock on Randy's door and sell him a sprig of lucky heather before the final.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: cdward on May 21, 2015, 12:04:32 PM
I have one of those paper day to day calendar desk top things at work, where each day is torn off, there is a saying of the day on the bottom of each one.
The saying for Saturday 30th May is "Everything ends well for the one who has patience".

Well that's it then, our 58 years wait for an FA Cup is a lot of patience, so it will all end well.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 21, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
I have one of those paper day to day calendar desk top things at work, where each day is torn off, there is a saying of the day on the bottom of each one.
The saying for Saturday 30th May is "Everything ends well for the one who has patience".

Well that's it then, our 58 years wait for an FA Cup is a lot of patience, so it will all end well.

Unfortunately you've ruined it by not having the patience to wait to see what it says!

Anyway I've never seen us lose at Wembley in the flesh, and I'm coming.  Plus "I just know we will" © Paul Lambert
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: leylandalbion on May 21, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
I had paid £100 (non refundable) to enter my first triathlon in Hyde Park, couldn't swim a length back in January.  Been up religiously at 5:45 3 days a week to train.  Its on the 30th May. 
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 21, 2015, 12:43:21 PM
I have one of those paper day to day calendar desk top things at work, where each day is torn off, there is a saying of the day on the bottom of each one.
The saying for Saturday 30th May is "Everything ends well for the one who has patience".

Well that's it then, our 58 years wait for an FA Cup is a lot of patience, so it will all end well.

Everything ends well for the one who has patience. Everything ends well. Well, by this you could assume that everything or 'all' ends well and so is a huge prize. But that prize is 'all' and as we are looking at the FA Cup that can only mean one thing. The FA. Fuck all. So who is the one who has patience? Somebody in a waiting room should have patience and patients who are patient are ready to see the doctor. So a doctor has patients. You have the right to be called a doctor if you have a research doctorate such as a PhD or a professional doctorate such as an MD. Professors usually, but not always, have doctorates. It is a title conferred by universities on people who have distinguished themselves in research and/or teaching. So who is the Professor? That would be Arsene Wenger. So Arsenal win fuck all. That'll do for me. Good omen.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 21, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
I have one of those paper day to day calendar desk top things at work, where each day is torn off, there is a saying of the day on the bottom of each one.
The saying for Saturday 30th May is "Everything ends well for the one who has patience".

Well that's it then, our 58 years wait for an FA Cup is a lot of patience, so it will all end well.

Everything ends well for the one who has patience. Everything ends well. Well, by this you could assume that everything or 'all' ends well and so is a huge prize. But that prize is 'all' and as we are looking at the FA Cup that can only mean one thing. The FA. Fuck all. So who is the one who has patience? Somebody in a waiting room should have patience and patients who are patient are ready to see the doctor. So a doctor has patients. You have the right to be called a doctor if you have a research doctorate such as a PhD or a professional doctorate such as an MD. Professors usually, but not always, have doctorates. It is a title conferred by universities on people who have distinguished themselves in research and/or teaching. So who is the Professor? That would be Arsene Wenger. So Arsenal win fuck all. That'll do for me. Good omen.

Thank you Ted Rogers
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Small Rodent on May 21, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
On Cup Final Day I will be meeting my friends' band to watch the game then see them debuting their new album of self-penned skiffle tunes later that night.
 
No1 in the charts on Cup Final Day 1957 was Cumberland Gap by Lonnie Donegan.

Lonnie Donegan described them as "Bloody Good"

Source: http://www.skiffle.co.uk/ (http://www.skiffle.co.uk/)

People who know of the band Punks not Dad will know the lead singer and bassist.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Cleybrooke on May 22, 2015, 08:10:39 AM
So a large ww2 bomb being found at Wembley this morning must be an oman. Didn't we stand up to those nazi's and refuse to salute?

Better still - isn't that arsenal found buried at Wembley?
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 22, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
On Cup Final Day I will be meeting my friends' band to watch the game then see them debuting their new album of self-penned skiffle tunes later that night.
 
No1 in the charts on Cup Final Day 1957 was Cumberland Gap by Lonnie Donegan.

Lonnie Donegan described them as "Bloody Good"

Source: http://www.skiffle.co.uk/ (http://www.skiffle.co.uk/)

People who know of the band Punks not Dad will know the lead singer and bassist.


If its good enough for Lonnie, then its good enough for me.

Don't you rock me, Daddio.
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Dr Butler on May 22, 2015, 09:47:03 AM
just found out that the lad I was sat next to at the semi-final is only one seat away for the final !

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Lucky Eddie on May 22, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Today was the last day I could transfer the cash to pay for our coach to Wembley.

I've just transferred the money at the branch nearest to where I'm working today in FALKIRK!

Never been here before in my life.

They're advertising tickets from £5 / £25 😮

Title: Re: Omens
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 22, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
every year something significant happens at Villa coincides with key moments in my life

1977 - I am born and Villa win the League Cup
1981 - we move down sarf and Villa win the League
1982 - European cup winners and my sister was born
1987 - we move to Flitwick, worst year of my life.... and Villa relegated.
1989 - we move to Milton Keynes, favourite place I've lived and Villa begin a decent season eventually finishing 2nd
1994 - I do my GCSES and Villa win the cup
1996 - I do my A- Levels and Villa win the cup.
2006 - O'Neill joins instantly lifting the cup - and I meet my missus
2010 - Villa reach Wembley twice and I get married.
2015 - Looks like I am going to be a father to be....... perhaps... and Villa are possible FA Cup winners.... perhaps......
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: thick_mike on May 28, 2015, 08:28:26 AM
Visited Woburn Abbey today. The Duke's son plays for a team in claret and blue and over one of the fireplaces there is a mosaic panel with the motto "Che Sara Sara"
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: TheTimVilla on May 28, 2015, 11:13:37 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/psychic-penguins-have-made-their-pick-for-arsenal-vs-aston-villa-in-the-fa-cup-final-10278258.html?origin=internalSearch (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/psychic-penguins-have-made-their-pick-for-arsenal-vs-aston-villa-in-the-fa-cup-final-10278258.html?origin=internalSearch)

It seems we have been p-p-p-p-picked by a penguin
Title: Re: Omens
Post by: tom jennings III on May 29, 2015, 11:41:00 AM
The Malaysian FA Cup was played earlier this week, won by the underdogs 3-1. That teams name I hear you cry? The Lions! Oh yes.
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