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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mortimer's Bear on May 11, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
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Do clubs still record songs when they reach the FA Cup final? Although often cringe worthy I always considered them to be part of the magic of the cup.
If so, I personally would like to see a 2015 remix of the 94' dance classic 'Ain't No Bluff', released by the League Cup winning team of that year.
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Colin Davies is doing it.
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With the squad?
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It'll never be as good as these smash hits.
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She has a fine set on her. Lungs obviously.
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And baps.
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I was taking the piss about Colin, but.........
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I thought the FA Cup Final song was going to be 'Happy Birthday'.
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I was taking the piss about Colin, but.........
Jesus Christ!
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I thought the FA Cup Final song was going to be 'Happy Birthday'.
That would be rather splendid.
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It should be Cockney Rejects 'I'm forever blowing bubbles'.
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I hope they don't play that godawful "Aston Villa That's Who" nonsense again. It's beyond awful.
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I hope they don't play that godawful "Aston Villa That's Who" nonsense again. It's beyond awful.
Would have liked to have seen the results of the exit poll when that turd of a song beat Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie in the Club Website vote.
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It should be Cockney Rejects 'I'm forever blowing bubbles'.
Shouldn't that be Michael Jackson's 'I'm forever blowing Bubbles'?
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"Cumberland Gap" by Lonnie Donegan
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A song that a fan wrote is on the bottom of this link:
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-fan-Erdington-writes-song-celebrate/story-26480018-detail/story.html?r1=
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It'll never be as good as these smash hits.
Oh dear
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It'll never be as good as these smash hits.
Oh dear
Great hits
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I was taking the piss about Colin, but.........
thats so bad it's good. Love the dodgy lyrics and the terrible singing
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Oooooh fuck no...not this shit again *facepalm smily thing*
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I thought this thread was about what song we should sing. Such a shame Gil is Carles not Jesus because if he was we could sing the song our Wesleyan founders doubtless sang.
Onward Christian's soldiers,
Marching as to war.
Meets the cross of Jesus
That makes number four.
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In 2000, I contacted the management of Super Furry Animals asking them to do our Cup Final song, on the strength of one of the members (Bumpf, I think) professing himself a Villa fan. I got no response, but still think it would be ace.
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Some nice footage in this video, I know a few don't like the song though!
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I hope they don't play that godawful "Aston Villa That's Who" nonsense again. It's beyond awful.
Considering we go way back to music days Risso, and I know me saying this will have no effect on you whatsoever, but I think you are way off on this one. I think it's a damn good effort, it's nice the musicians and video* guy just got off their backsides and did what they wanted to without anyone orchestrating it (I think), and I think it's catchy and different enough.
I realise this is sacrilege to some, but if we have to go through a whole official song again, I'd rather it was this than TFAUSM, which I've never been able to connect with on any level. The obvious singalong unifying is Ghostriders (debate the version, but is *our* song like no other), but back to my point, am not letting this track get slated by Risso on a couple of threads without standing up for it!
*And not just because I'm in it on the Holte :-)
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I thought 'Aston Villa That's Who' was generally positively received until the moment we chose it as our Wembley song.
It's actually a tune with potential to slowly organically grow as a terrace anthem, but having it as our cup final anthem 'forces' it in a way which is counter productive. It's a bit like when we recorded a version of The Bells are Ringing - it had been a good club anthem, which we would have liked to get going again, but you can't push these things - it never works.
I actually don't think there'll be any big deal about the anthems at the final, it was clearly just an excuse to let Liverpool do YNWA without looking like they were giving them preferential treatment, but as they did ours 20 minutes before kick off and their 2 minutes before kick off, it was pretty transparent.
The Cup Final anthem in Abide With Me - it'll be left there.
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The Cup Final anthem in Abide With Me - it'll be left there.
And we have our own version of that from the 1970's ('77 LC Final?) although I can only remember a couple of lines these days "We've travelled far, Divisions Two and Three, Now Kings of England, Oh Abide With Me....."
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If someone does pen a new song for Wembley, I hope they find a way of including the immortal words from this site
'we'll fuck the fuckers'.
A song won't be complete without them.
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I remember the Brigada lads trying to get 'Three Little Birds' going a while back. I'd love to hear the Holte in full voice singing it. It would sound something like this..........
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
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If someone does pen a new song for Wembley, I hope they find a way of including the immortal words from this site
'we'll fuck the fuckers'.
A song won't be complete without them.
It would be easy to insert those lyrics into the Thompson Twins 'Doctor Doctor'.
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
You won't be alone.
I only gained my ticket for the final due to my terminally ill uncle giving me his ticket. He passed away on Tuesday.
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Very sorry to hear that Glasses.
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
You won't be alone.
I only gained my ticket for the final due to my terminally ill uncle giving me his ticket. He passed away on Tuesday.
RIP and very sorry to hear that .
Another Holte Ender in The Sky.
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
You won't be alone.
I only gained my ticket for the final due to my terminally ill uncle giving me his ticket. He passed away on Tuesday.
Bloody Hell mate - sing your heart out!
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
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Another one here who will be shedding a tear at the singing of "Abide with Me" - it was played at my father`s funeral - always brings an almighty big lump to the throat hearing it. C`mon Villa, do it for VCTM Snr
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
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Villa, Villa , Villaaa sung SLOWLY and LOUD like the 70s 80s will do just nicely.
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Well I never...
Finance is important, but we should never forget that we are not talking about a mere business. This is the Aston Villa football club, and it deserves nothing short of the best.
—The Little Book of Aston Villa - Dave Woodhall – page 13
Couldn't have said it better myself...and also couldn't help but chuckle to the use of "the" in that quote after the last couple of days! :D
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
A version was sung by some blokes on the Holte in the run up to the 1977 league cup final - back then you would get separate songs and chants from different groups of fans at the same time. The only bit I can recall was "follow the Villa, home and away". (Slightly unusual in that I don't think they sang Abide with Me before the league cup final so I assumed it was just a Wembley related thing).
Do any old timers on here recall this song?
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
You won't be alone.
I only gained my ticket for the final due to my terminally ill uncle giving me his ticket. He passed away on Tuesday.
Nothing to add except, enjoy the day, it is absolutely no doubt what he would have wanted.
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
A version was sung by some blokes on the Holte in the run up to the 1977 league cup final - back then you would get separate songs and chants from different groups of fans at the same time. The only bit I can recall was "follow the Villa, home and away". (Slightly unusual in that I don't think they sang Abide with Me before the league cup final so I assumed it was just a Wembley related thing).
Do any old timers on here recall this song?
It's just come to mind but all I can remember was the same as you. I don't think there was any more.
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
A version was sung by some blokes on the Holte in the run up to the 1977 league cup final - back then you would get separate songs and chants from different groups of fans at the same time. The only bit I can recall was "follow the Villa, home and away". (Slightly unusual in that I don't think they sang Abide with Me before the league cup final so I assumed it was just a Wembley related thing).
Do any old timers on here recall this song?
Yes, I remember that being sung, Pat Mac. Along with "We Shall Overcome", "He Was Saying Goodbye to his Horse", "We've got faith in the Villa" and, probably most bizarrely, The Beach Boys "Barbara Ann" complete with harmonies.
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Sixty-four football fans will form an ‘FA Cup Fans choir’ and sing Abide With Me prior to this season’s FA Cup Final at Wembley Stadium.
The lucky supporters are the winners of a Songs of Praise competition with each fan representing one of the 64 teams who it to the third round of this year’s competition.
The choir will be mixed and also include a wide spectrum of ages with the youngest participant in their early twenties while the most senior has celebrated their 100th birthday!
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
A version was sung by some blokes on the Holte in the run up to the 1977 league cup final - back then you would get separate songs and chants from different groups of fans at the same time. The only bit I can recall was "follow the Villa, home and away". (Slightly unusual in that I don't think they sang Abide with Me before the league cup final so I assumed it was just a Wembley related thing).
Do any old timers on here recall this song?
Yes, I remember that being sung, Pat Mac. Along with "We Shall Overcome", "He Was Saying Goodbye to his Horse", "We've got faith in the Villa" and, probably most bizarrely, The Beach Boys "Barbara Ann" complete with harmonies.
"Goodbye horse" was one of my faves back in the day - totally meaningless as far as I can remember...started singing it after the midweek Bitters' game and surprised at the number of old farts who joined in!
Love it!
A revival is due!
UTV!
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
Me too - thinking of family Villains no longer with us.....
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i will definitely struggle to hold myself together during Abide with me.
Me too - thinking of family Villains no longer with us.....
Indeed. They will be looking on I'm sure.
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
Just out of curiosity, how do we know that to be true please? Do we have any proof? I'm overjoyed reading this - Villa are incredible.
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Is it right that "Abide With Me" is a Cup Final tradition started by Frederick Rinder? I think he suggested it to the FA? Edit: Yep, a quick Google search tells me it has already been discussed here. Still, nice to know where the tradition started.
If that's true about Rinder, then need we look any further than Abide With Me for a club anthem?
Just out of curiosity, how do we know that to be true please? Do we have any proof? I'm overjoyed reading this - Villa are incredible.
John Russell says so.
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Not according to thefa.com
The singing of Henry Lyte's famous hymn "Abide With Me" has been part of FA Cup Final tradition since 1927.
That year's Final between Arsenal and Cardiff City was only the fifth at what was then the "new" Wembley Stadium. King George V and Queen Mary attended in those days and "Abide With Me" was known to be one of their favourite hymns. FA secretary Sir Frederick Wall arranged for it to be included on the songsheet.
It was the year in which community singing was introduced into the pre-match programme. The first conductor was TP Ratcliffe, who became famous as "The Man in White". He was followed after World War Two by Arthur Caiger, a London headmaster, and then by Frank Rea, who continued until the 1970s.
The melancholy words to "Abide With Me" were written by Henry Francis Lyte, a Devon vicar, in 1847. He completed them on the same day as he delivered his last sermon at the "All Saints" parish church in Brixham. Three weeks later, then in his mid-50s, he died of tuberculosis.
The hymn has become part of the ritual of Cup Final Day. Its deep, stirring sound seems to knit together different loyalties and backgrounds, providing a moment of unity before the battle to come.
"Hold now your cross before my closing eyes,
Shine through the gloom and point me to the skies,
Heaven's morning breaks and earth's vain shadows flee,
In life, in death, O Lord, abide with me."
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"Abide With Me" was chosen, like many others, for my Dad's funeral.
Incredibly emotional song. There's a DH Lawrence short story where it features and I even struggled to share that bit with my students.
Couldn't sing it then.
Won't be able to sing it 30th May.
Come on you Lions!
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HOLTE ENDERS IN THE SKY
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It's strange, but we were brought up as Catholics and I don't think I have ever heard Abide With Me sung in a Catholic Church, be it in mass or at a funeral. It is a song that I associate exclusively with the FA Cup.
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'Three-nil, three-nil, three-nil' , preferably after about 15 minutes.
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It's a song I associate with funerals and the FA Cup.
Strange blend.
And I'm Catholic too Pat.
Funny old world innit?
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Anyone remember "Hey Aston Villa , Hey Aston Villa" early 80's . It wouldn't be one of my Desert Island Disks, but cant find it on youtube , but its definitely in my Aston Villa Music Hall of Fame.
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Anyone remember "Hey Aston Villa , Hey Aston Villa" early 80's . It wouldn't be one of my Desert Island Disks, but cant find it on youtube , but its definitely in my Aston Villa Music Hall of Fame.
Ricky Disoni? I used to cringe at the line " long live the glorious past".
Probably as bad as "We're going Up" from the 1975 team.
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It's a song I associate with funerals and the FA Cup.
Strange blend.
And I'm Catholic too Pat.
Funny old world innit?
Indeed Mr Moss. I was talking to a friend earlier and she pointed out that Abide with Me was played at her mom's funeral only 18 months ago. It was a humanist cemetery in a crematorium though, and Human by the Killers is the one from the service that stuck in my mind.
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Anyone remember "Hey Aston Villa , Hey Aston Villa" early 80's . It wouldn't be one of my Desert Island Disks, but cant find it on youtube , but its definitely in my Aston Villa Music Hall of Fame.
I remember a song which went "Oh Oh Oh Aston Villa" which I first heard at VP against Sterk in Spring 1967 and which survived through the 70's.
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My eyes have seen the glory of the Villa win the cup,
Seven times we've won it,
Now the cup is coming back,
We are the boys in claret and blue,
We are the chosen few,
And the Villa go marching on on on
I know it doesn't quite rhyme, but I think it works quite well, and would be good for us to belt out before the final. I'll try it out in the mini bus on the way down.
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At the Cup Final in 2000 the words to Abide With Me were printed on the back of whatever it was we had to hold up (can't remember what it was) . I cried so much I couldn't see the sheet.
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As it is 200 years on from the Battle of Waterloo then in view of the French connection with the opposition Abba's "Waterloo" could be appropriate. Not that I can stand their music! :D