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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Ads on February 28, 2015, 09:59:42 PM
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He most important game since the last one finished a few hours ago.
Poorest run in 52 years, 7 defeats on the spin, a manager hunting for his first win, while at the other end, they have only lost once in 11 games and kept 7 clean sheets.
Nailed on Villa win then.
We created some chances at Newcastle, good ones, but we have been hamstrung by dross in Gabby and Weimann all season and again today. Weimann is a pretty embarrassing excuse for a player.
Pulis will revert to type away from home and look not to lose, so first goal will be key.
I would go with Cissokho coming back in at full back for his height, Bacuna and Gil in for Cleverley and Agbonlahor, with Gil central and off Benteke. A bit of guile close to the big man who looked better today.
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
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Was Aly injured or dropped today?
I was out watching rugby and wasn't paying much attention to the Match a Thread.
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
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Baggies could be without Berahino, Ideye and Anichebe so the likelihood is that Pulis may park the bus on Tuesday and play for a draw/not to lose. Speaking to a Baggies friend tonight he said they are playing typical Pulis tactics and football at times including running the clock down at dead ball situations.
We are way overdue a win so statistically the football gods should be shining in our favour for a few weeks...and they aren't even on a bad run so theres no excuses for us to roll over and give them 3 points like we usually do in our charitable way.
By the Power of McGrath...deliver us 3 points on Tuesday night!
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
I'd get a sense of proportion if I were you.
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Does the quarter final go to a reply if it's a draw? Pretty sure it does.
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Does the quarter final go to a reply if it's a draw? Pretty sure it does.
yep. We'll do them at our place twice this week so no need to worry about it.
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Is this the Pre-Match if so:
Us 0 Them 2
We are a truly garbage football team and I can only see us winning one more game this season.
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My sense of proportion tells me that we will lose both matches abjectly.
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1-1.
Not going to be enough.
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We'll win one; lose one. Not sure in which order.
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8th clean sheet for West Brom
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While we've been busy setting a new club record for scoring nil, Albion have now set a new club record for keeping clean sheets. Also before Pulis arrived Brown Ideye was widely perceived as a waste of money, and Berahino was playing the big 'I am'. So we can't score, they keep clean sheets, and they've got 2 strikers in form.
2-0 to the Villa
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We will lose one and draw one, the way we are going 0-0 and 0-1
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
I'd get a sense of proportion if I were you.
[/quI agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
I'd get a sense of proportion if I were you.
I dislike Westwood playing for Villa, he's shit, what's over reacting about that?
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Oh and the side is an embarrassment, in almost every stat you care to mention.
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I tend to reserve hatred for more significant figures than footballers who aren't as good as I'd like them to be.
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I'd take 3 points on Tuesday over a win next Saturday.
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Fuck the fuckers.
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We're almost definitely going to get a significantly lower turnout for this than the cup game which annoys me to no end, but either way we should get a good atmosphere and hopefully we'll see them off. It's on my Birthday so surely that means something?
Please Villa, Please.
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Can see the atmosphere being really poisonous on Tuesday and Saturday.
Anyway, can only see a defeat in what I suspect will be the last league match against Albion for a very long time
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Agreed. This has 03.03.03 written all over it. Hope I'm wrong and we splatter them into the ground with a performance that's long, long overdue.
3-1 Villa
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Let's just fucking win.
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I've zero faith in this lot now so I'm not expecting much. Maybe a rot stopping point.
1-1.
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In all the years i have followed the villa (55 +) i have seen some pretty poor Villa teams,like when we were relegated in 1966 and 1987 and even when we were relegated to the third division. Those teams did at least score a few goals but conceded a lot more,which is why they were relegated.
This current team are a disgrace to the shirt What is it,3 goals in the last 12 league games,6 successive away games without scoring and 13 goals all season and we are into March. Sadly,it looks like we are going down and quite frankly in my opinion will deserve to .
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I think the greatest surprise is that with a goal scoring record like ours we're not bottom of the table and completely marooned there.
We talk about a lack of good fortune in games, well we've been bloody lucky in that respect.
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I'd get dad's army in for this one aka - Swiss Phil, Joe "60 a day" Cole & Captain Ron.
Drop Okore, gabby and Weimann .
1-0 home win. Benteke .
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Can't see us losing this one but can't see us getting around the Pulisdecker so 0-0.
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Hutton Senderos vlaar cissoko
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Bacuna ----------------Gil
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Villa 2-1 Clark and Westwood , Cup 0-0
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I agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
I'd get a sense of proportion if I were you.
[/quI agree with most of that including playing Gil, not sure about Bacuna though but anything but more Weiman and Gabby.
Bacuna offers more to a match than the useless crab like, mannequin Westwood. I fucking hate that player epitomises everything that's boring about us right now. He should be plying his trade in the lower reaches of the Championship.
You hate a Villa player?
Yes, sorry Dave but I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing shit like Westwood repeating the same mistakes over and over. I'd be happy to see him never play for the club again rather than take thousands out of it.
I love the club, not a fair few of the losers that are currently representing it embarrassingly.
I'd get a sense of proportion if I were you.
I dislike Westwood playing for Villa, he's shit, what's over reacting about that?
I'm with you aj2k77. He's a completely shit footballer. As for hate, well, it's a word that some people can't accept the use of. If you hate Westwood, fair enough. We are free to choose who we hate, regardless of how significant other people deem them to be or not to be. Some of my language and labeling of Villa players last night was appalling. But it made me feel better. Certainly a lot better than the team made me feel.
As for getting a sense of proportion, again, that's your perspective Dave. I respect that too.
We are all mightily frustrated, pissed off and bored rigid by Villa's ineptitude.
I just hope we can get something from this Baggies game. I thought we tried last night, there was energy. I'd like to see Delph do more. Gabby and Weimann were rubbish, but how many times have we said that this season. I've worn out the question mark key.
Anyway, Up The Villa. 2-1 to us. Both on Tuesday and Saturday.
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Bit cold in Tokyo than Nik fingers not working properly?
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I tend to reserve hatred for more significant figures than footballers who aren't as good as I'd like them to be.
I hate Westwood playing for Villa in the same manner I hate seeing Rooneys smarmy face after he's dived to win another penalty or listening to a Paul Lambert interview.
I don't hate the bloke, I hate having him playing for us. It's not the same and I think you already know that but decided to pick a fight.
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All I will say is I don't want Abgonlahor starting. Fine on the bench to come on if we need some pace and carry the ball into corners late on, but not from the off.
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Time for some faith and nerve. Whilst it's hard to see where a point or a win is coming from what better opportunity for the players, manager and club to draw a line in the sand and say from now on we give everything for the club? Two home games against a local rival in the space of a week to rescue your season - if I played for Villa I'd be fu**ing champing at the bit for Tuesday.
A nervy 1-0.
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Time for some faith and nerve. Whilst it's hard to see where a point or a win is coming from what better opportunity for the players, manager and club to draw a line in the sand and say from now on we give everything for the club? Two home games against a local rival in the space of a week to rescue your season - if I played for Villa I'd be fu**ing champing at the bit for Tuesday.
A nervy 1-0.
Problem is, when was the last time you saw a Villa team all fired up and chomping at the bit to get at the other team?
I'd be guessing but it's probably at least a year? This team is full of losers who can't wait for the season to end.
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Time for some faith and nerve. Whilst it's hard to see where a point or a win is coming from what better opportunity for the players, manager and club to draw a line in the sand and say from now on we give everything for the club? Two home games against a local rival in the space of a week to rescue your season - if I played for Villa I'd be fu**ing champing at the bit for Tuesday.
A nervy 1-0.
Problem is, when was the last time you saw a Villa team all fired up and chomping at the bit to get at the other team?
I'd be guessing but it's probably at least a year? This team is full of losers who can't wait for the season to end.
and yet if,say, Tony Pullis was in charge of' a team full of losers, as you eloquently put it, they would know what job was their responsibility
and suddenly they would no longer be 'losers' they might become winners. But Tom Fox should have seen this when Pullis was available.
But he didn't and we will get relegated...and struggle in the Champoinship.
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This year's Sunderland at home.
Six-one Villa.
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Time for some faith and nerve. Whilst it's hard to see where a point or a win is coming from what better opportunity for the players, manager and club to draw a line in the sand and say from now on we give everything for the club? Two home games against a local rival in the space of a week to rescue your season - if I played for Villa I'd be fu**ing champing at the bit for Tuesday.
A nervy 1-0.
Problem is, when was the last time you saw a Villa team all fired up and chomping at the bit to get at the other team?
I'd be guessing but it's probably at least a year? This team is full of losers who can't wait for the season to end.
and yet if,say, Tony Pullis was in charge of' a team full of losers, as you eloquently put it, they would know what job was their responsibility
and suddenly they would no longer be 'losers' they might become winners. But Tom Fox should have seen this when Pullis was available.
But he didn't and we will get relegated...and struggle in the Champoinship.
I agree with you that Pulis can organise a side, there's no doubt about that. What we have here right now is like a perfect storm though, it's not just that we weren't getting results, we also weren't scoring at all, weren't having shots at all, went through a period where we weren't having the ball at all. 12 goals in 20 whatever games, it's almost unprecedented.There was so much wrong and so little time to put it right, I just think we've had too many bad habbits ingrained in us now that anyone coming in would find it a massive challenge.
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Taking the positives from the Newcastle game, I felt we upped our level from abysmal to dire since the Stoke defeat and with the fans showing 110% support against West Brom I feel we could move on to the next level, just plain awful. Onwards and upwards.
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0-4 drubbing.
On the other hand, a la Sunderland the other year, I'm not going to be there...
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I tend to reserve hatred for more significant figures than footballers who aren't as good as I'd like them to be.
I hate Westwood playing for Villa in the same manner I hate seeing Rooneys smarmy face after he's dived to win another penalty or listening to a Paul Lambert interview.
I don't hate the bloke, I hate having him playing for us. It's not the same and I think you already know that but decided to pick a fight.
I didn't, but thank you for clearing that one up.
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Poll required.
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The words of Jimbo from a page or two back are ringing in my ears and should be writ large on the tunnel to the pitch-side..........
FUCK THE FUCKERS!
2-1 both ties
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Does the quarter final go to a reply if it's a draw? Pretty sure it does.
yep. We'll do them at our place twice this week so no need to worry about it.
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I'd go for the Power of Positive Drinking
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We're almost definitely going to get a significantly lower turnout for this than the cup game which annoys me to no end, but either way we should get a good atmosphere and hopefully we'll see them off. It's on my Birthday so surely that means something?
Please Villa, Please.
My birthday too! :D
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Must win, time is nearly up.
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I was thinking back to 20 dec when they beat us when Richardson got an early red. I was quite optimistic then as we'd just started our possession football and thought we'd pick up!
I'd love us to win this as their fans are giving it the big one, but aren't optimistic. If we don't win I think that will be the end for us
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Great thread. So far, over the top diatribe, smart alec retorts, the end of the world is nigh and an inexplicable mention of 030303.
Please everyone, man the fuck up.
2-1 win
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Great thread. So far, over the top diatribe, smart alec retorts, the end of the world is nigh and an inexplicable mention of 030303.
Please everyone, man the fuck up.
2-1 win
I do hope none of our players and the manager have decided it's over. I know things look pretty bleak but it's not over. Fight to the end. This is the week it turns
3-1 Villa - Benteke, Sinclair and Delph. We'll then take the momentum into the FA Cup and whack them again.
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0-0
We don't do any sort of attacking away from home. We just shove men behind the ball and play for a point. The onus and all the pressure is on you to get a result.
We have a few problems ourselves at the moment with Brown Ideye and Saido Berahino both picking up injuries - that leaves us with the permanent injured Victor Anichebe.
Really looking forward to the game however - we have a great chance to beat you three times in one season which would be nice but the Albion way is a whole heap of disappointment so I wouldn't be surprised to see you win both fixtures.
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We're due a win; we were unfortunate not to get a point against Newcastle in my opinion, and if the scoreline was reversed I don't think Newcastle could have many complaints.
But therein lies the issue. We're unlucky, as well as being a poor side.
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That's correct Stu but doesn't make the feeling of defeat any easier to accept. However what we did see was a much better performance and so again a bit more to build on. The Stoke loss really hurt because even a point there makes such a difference to confidence. This week is enormous now and we have to come out of it positively. It will shape the balance of the season.
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0-0
We don't do any sort of attacking away from home. We just shove men behind the ball and play for a point. The onus and all the pressure is on you to get a result.
We have a few problems ourselves at the moment with Brown Ideye and Saido Berahino both picking up injuries - that leaves us with the permanent injured Victor Anichebe.
Really looking forward to the game however - we have a great chance to beat you three times in one season which would be nice but the Albion way is a whole heap of disappointment so I wouldn't be surprised to see you win both fixtures.
If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
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I was thinking back to 20 dec when they beat us when Richardson got an early red. I was quite optimistic then as we'd just started our possession football and thought we'd pick up!
I'd love us to win this as their fans are giving it the big one, but aren't optimistic. If we don't win I think that will be the end for us
That was a big turning point of the season for me.
We weren't great but had I think 9 points from 5 games so a bit of momentum and I doubt we'd have lost at WBA with 11 players.
That red and then losing has sadly sent us on another downward spiral that dosen't look stopping this time.
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If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
I am disappointed. I detest the approach.
Granted we've got points but its so appalling to watch
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Bit cold in Tokyo than Nik fingers not working properly?
Haha. Yes mate. I've been hoping for Villa to warm them up...
How are you Aftab?
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If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
I am disappointed. I detest the approach.
Granted we've got points but its so appalling to watch
Sitting back against us is a good tactic, as we certainly can't break teams down
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If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
I am disappointed. I detest the approach.
Granted we've got points but its so appalling to watch
This sounds like something out of Viz's Top Tips, but...If you are losing or drawing in the last ten minutes try really hard to score a late goal against us and you will almost certainly succeed.
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If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
I am disappointed. I detest the approach.
Granted we've got points but its so appalling to watch
I would swap places with your lot in a second, Liam. We're terrible to watch AND we get no points.
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0-1. Dreamt it. Hope to be very wrong.
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Bit cold in Tokyo than Nik fingers not working properly?
Haha. Yes mate. I've been hoping for Villa to warm them up...
How are you Aftab?
How am I? Family and work fantastic Villa miserable as hell like the rest of us. I have not lived through a relegation season ever as in 1987 I was in Japan and communications not being as they are missed the misery however this is new for me as we look doomed! I guess due to age it will be your first one as well.
Flying to Seoul tomorrow so will be missing this and the cup games. Hoping to catch it in a bar or hotel.
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I would swap places with your lot in a second, Liam.
Never ever heard that from a Villa fan
****** hell, you lot must be bad! :D
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I would swap places with your lot in a second, Liam.
Never ever heard that from a Villa fan
****** hell, you lot must be bad! :D
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Record breaking bad and I have had 50 years of watching Villa to compare it with.
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Hutton Senderos vlaar cissoko
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Bacuna ----------------Gil
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I think we could do with a few more defensive players.
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I think we will win. Mainly because I am so damn BORED of picking through the bones of a defeat each week.
Hopefully the Baggies will come at us a bit so the game will be exciting regardless of result, although as Liam says, unlikely under Pulis.
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I would swap places with your lot in a second, Liam.
I will never eat shit no matter how hungry and desperate I am. I'd rather die!
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I'll be happy not to lose.
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0-0
We don't do any sort of attacking away from home. We just shove men behind the ball and play for a point. The onus and all the pressure is on you to get a result.
We have a few problems ourselves at the moment with Brown Ideye and Saido Berahino both picking up injuries - that leaves us with the permanent injured Victor Anichebe.
Really looking forward to the game however - we have a great chance to beat you three times in one season which would be nice but the Albion way is a whole heap of disappointment so I wouldn't be surprised to see you win both fixtures.
If I was a Baggies fan Liam id be extremely disappointed if Pulis played for a 0 0. We're brittle and there for the taking.
Its Pulis, this is how he sets up. Thy will do everything to upset us and know that at some point we will go looking for a result.
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0-2
Benteke sent off
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Given
Hutton Okore Clark Lowton
Sanchez
Westwood Delph Gil
Benteke Sinclair
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Given
Hutton Okore Clark Lowton
Sanchez
Westwood Delph Gil
Benteke Sinclair
I'd go with that, Des, it's first and foremost a team not to lose but with enough attacking intent to score a couple providing the midfield support the attack. Expect the Bitters to kick lumps out of Gil.
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Aston Villa 3-0 Baggies
Clark, Westwood and Sinclair.
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We are long overdue a penalty.
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Great thread. So far, over the top diatribe, smart alec retorts, the end of the world is nigh and an inexplicable mention of 030303.
Please everyone, man the fuck up.
2-1 win
Out of all the posts this has to be the best. Totally agree but I think a nervy 1-0 to the good guys.
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Given
Hutton Okore Clark Lowton
Sanchez
Westwood Delph Gil
Benteke Sinclair
I'd go with that, Des, it's first and foremost a team not to lose but with enough attacking intent to score a couple providing the midfield support the attack. Expect the Bitters to kick lumps out of Gil.
I'd go with that too.
I expect the Bitters to kick lumps out of any Villa player who gets anywhere near the half way line, and to engage in a generous helping of provocation to get Benteke and Delph a card or two...it's the Pulis way!
I hope we rise to the occasion and show we're better than that.
Keep the Faith.
We'll win.
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We are long overdue a penalty.
Our new tactic of occasionally attacking my help this happen.
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We are long overdue a penalty.
Our new tactic of occasionally attacking my help this happen.
We are missing an Ashley Young
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We're almost definitely going to get a significantly lower turnout for this than the cup game which annoys me to no end, but either way we should get a good atmosphere and hopefully we'll see them off. It's on my Birthday so surely that means something?
Please Villa, Please.
My birthday too! :D
Well I hope that works out better than my 40th birthday.
01.12.2010.
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4-0 to us. Law of averages is we'll twat someone this season, may as well be Tuesday. Even the last time we went down we did West Ham 4-0 at VP.
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We are long overdue a penalty.
you have to be in the oppositions box first...
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I wish there was a laugh button for posts!
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Think we lose again.
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Bit cold in Tokyo than Nik fingers not working properly?
Haha. Yes mate. I've been hoping for Villa to warm them up...
How are you Aftab?
How am I? Family and work fantastic Villa miserable as hell like the rest of us. I have not lived through a relegation season ever as in 1987 I was in Japan and communications not being as they are missed the misery however this is new for me as we look doomed! I guess due to age it will be your first one as well.
Flying to Seoul tomorrow so will be missing this and the cup games. Hoping to catch it in a bar or hotel.
Good to hear mate. Yes, I'm only 32,so relegation hasn't been experienced as an adult. It has as a child, but at that age, I was more interested in Lego.
As for Seoul, enjoy. Try 'Hollywood Bar and Grill' close to Itaewon station. It was always my local for Villa games. Even if it's not advertised as showing, a word with the bar staff will have them finding a stream for you. The cup game should certainly be on. Enjoy Seoul mate and let's hope for a bit of luck with both games.
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We'll twat them 1-0.
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Think it'l be 1-1
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Ok
Villa can't score
They do clean sheets
So
4 0 villa
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I reckon it will end 0-0 with the Boggies time wasting from the second minute.
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0-1, last minute red card for us leading to them getting the winner from a free-kick.
Everything that could go wrong this season, has.
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Hutton Okore Clark Lowton
Sanchez
Westwood Delph Gil
Benteke Sinclair
Okore was really poor on Saturday I thought. Hull and Arsenal too and has been at fault for a good few goals of late. Maybe time to give Vlaar a chance to make up for his horror show against Stoke.
Agreed on Given coming back in, Guzan's form has slipped beyond a blip.
As I say every week I'd have Bacuna in the side. Maybe he gets better with every game he doesn't play but for set pieces alone he is handy.
For some reason I think Sherwood might bring Nzogbia back in
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For some reason I think Sherwood might bring Nzogbia back in
God, has it really come to that?????
We're fcuked aren't we? Well and truly.
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We will go out all guns blazing and win 3-1.
Benteke will score a header in the second half, before 55 mins. West Brom will bounce back ala Partridge and sneak a goal from a cross thanks to a defensive error. Carles Gil will then pull the strings and provide Big Ben with an assist. Baggies become frustrated and give away a penalty in the last ten minutes. Benteke completes his hat trick and all is well.
Trust me 8)
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For some reason I think Sherwood might bring Nzogbia back in
God, has it really come to that?????
We're fcuked aren't we? Well and truly.
I'd rather play a bag of cement
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Looks to me like we're going down. 2 wins in a week against the boggies would be lovely, but the writing looks to be on the wall now.
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The bookies still reckon we'll stay up - http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/6003156/English-Premier-League---Relegation.html
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Wasn't sure where to post this, but if, like me, you go home via the M6/M5 there are roadworks on the M6 from J7 to J10 this month meaning closure of the M6 at J7 between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m. Diversions from J7 are via West Brom to M5 J1, but think I'll avoid the M6 and cut across to the Soho Rd. Full details here (http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/m6-northbound-junction-7-to-10-carriageway-resurfacing-and-bridge-expansion-joint-renewals/)
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2-1 win. Delph and Benteke goals. Gargoyle late on for them. And a red card somewhere. Probably Benteke.
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Baggies + Pulis = purgatory, any scrape-a-last-minute-OG win would do.
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We're almost definitely going to get a significantly lower turnout for this than the cup game which annoys me to no end, but either way we should get a good atmosphere and hopefully we'll see them off. It's on my Birthday so surely that means something?
Please Villa, Please.
It probably means that your birthday will be spoilt....
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Brown Ideye and Berahino are doubts. Anichebe out.
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It probably means that your birthday will be spoilt....
Yep, I thought my birthday would mean something before we got dicked 4-1 by Coventry at home one year.
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Physio room have Cissokho as out, with Richardson very doubtful, and Vlaar also needing a late fitness test. Great.
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So Vlaar is 'touch and go' for tomorrow, did he injure himself walking to the tunnel after getting sent off!!!!???
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I don't think we'll see much of Vlaar from now on. What on earth has happened to Senderos?
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Funny how 4,000 Albion fans are able to make it to the cup game on Saturday but not tomorrow
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
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Funny how 4,000 Albion fans are able to make it to the cup game on Saturday but not tomorrow
What do you mean? They probably would have sold 6.5k for this game if we gave them that many tickets, they hate Villa and this is their cup final playing at Villa Park.
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They get 2,900 for tomorrow and have sold them
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They've sold all their allocation for tomorrow, 2,900 and all their FA Cup allocation, 6,500.
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I think we should go :
Guzan
Hutton Okore Vlaar Cissohko
Clark Sanchez
Gil Delph Sinclair
Benteke
But if TS wants us to be more attacking push the fullbacks up and go :
Guzan
Okore Vlaar Clark
Hutton Cissohko
Sanchez
Gil Delph Sinclair
Benteke
...and we'll win, just.
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
I can only remember 2 games I've been to on my actual birthday - 1977 at home to Norwich (Little and Gray scored in a 3 nil win) and then this one, on my birthday in 1983
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-v-birmingham-city-7936189
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They've sold all their allocation for tomorrow, 2,900 and all their FA Cup allocation, 6,500.
I'm sure 6,500 was their average attendance in the top flight under Nobby Stiles.
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They've sold all their allocation for tomorrow, 2,900 and all their FA Cup allocation, 6,500.
I'm sure 6,500 was their average attendance in the top flight under Nobby Stiles.
12K. But we were only 15K.
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
I can only remember 2 games I've been to on my actual birthday - 1977 at home to Norwich (Little and Gray scored in a 3 nil win) and then this one, on my birthday in 1983
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-v-birmingham-city-7936189
The infamous battle of Brum in '83. Not bad, but I can beat that. We beat Small Heath 6-0 in the Simod Cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988. I was there but I have just tried and failed to find out how many others were. I have an idea it was about eight and a half thousand.
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I just hope the team are half as up for this as I am!
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Just don't have Westwood and Cleverley in the same side. It's all I ask.
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
I can only remember 2 games I've been to on my actual birthday - 1977 at home to Norwich (Little and Gray scored in a 3 nil win) and then this one, on my birthday in 1983
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-v-birmingham-city-7936189
No, it was a Shaun Maloney late winner, where he seemed to take an age to actually shoot, was like watching in slow-motion.
Also, we had a Weimann late winner against them more recently, are Fulham the only team we ever get late winners against?
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
I can only remember 2 games I've been to on my actual birthday - 1977 at home to Norwich (Little and Gray scored in a 3 nil win) and then this one, on my birthday in 1983
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-v-birmingham-city-7936189
No, it was a Shaun Maloney late winner, where he seemed to take an age to actually shoot, was like watching in slow-motion.
Also, we had a Weimann late winner against them more recently, are Fulham the only team we ever get late winners against?
that goal at Everton.... ;)
UTV
the Doc
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Where are the optons?
home win for me, time to be positive
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The infamous battle of Brum in '83. Not bad, but I can beat that. We beat Small Heath 6-0 in the Simod Cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988. I was there but I have just tried and failed to find out how many others were. I have an idea it was about eight and a half thousand.
8,324.
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They've sold all their allocation for tomorrow, 2,900 and all their FA Cup allocation, 6,500.
I'm sure 6,500 was their average attendance in the top flight under Nobby Stiles.
12K. But we were only 15K.
They were down to the 6,000 mark towards the end. Small Heath were down to the 5,000 mark.
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The infamous battle of Brum in '83. Not bad, but I can beat that. We beat Small Heath 6-0 in the Simod Cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988. I was there but I have just tried and failed to find out how many others were. I have an idea it was about eight and a half thousand.
8,324.
This is better than 'Ask Aspel' today PWS. ;)
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We're almost definitely going to get a significantly lower turnout for this than the cup game which annoys me to no end, but either way we should get a good atmosphere and hopefully we'll see them off. It's on my Birthday so surely that means something?
Please Villa, Please.
It probably means that your birthday will be spoilt....
Normally does, the first time I ever saw Villa lose was on my Birthday actually, lost 1-0 to Sunderland with Michael Chopra scoring in front of the Holte. Distinctly remember turning to my Dad as we were leaving and telling him it was the 'worst day of my life', he laughed and told me to get used to it - how right he was!
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
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Ron Vlaar is an injury doubt for the WBA clash on Tuesday.
Vlaar is described as "touch and go" by manager Tim Sherwood ahead of the Baggies encounter in the Barclays Premier League this week.
Sherwood said Vlaar has been struggling with a calf injury but is still hopeful of seeing his skipper available for the derby match.
Villa boss Sherwood did, however, reveal that Kieran Richardson and Aly Cissokho will both be out of the game.
Richardson and Cissokho were absent on Tyneside and will be again for the Albion match.
Matt Lowton came in at left-back for the Newcastle encounter and could well be in the team again this week.
Sherwood said he never likes to hide behind injury issues but says they are "crippling" at present heading into the Baggies double-header.
He added: "You very rarely hear me crying about injuries but it's crippling at the moment.
"They are all in defensive areas of the field and it is hurting us.
"But you get on with it."
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Tim this is how you do it:
"With your usual vocal backing and 110 per cent effort from each and every one of the players I am sure we will get the right result."
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Vlaar struggling with a calf injury. Fucking hell there's breaking news for you.
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Hate it when you give their manager his pre game motivational speech..
Mr Sherwood, dont give him any more ammunition, please.
Come on you Villa boys!!!
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Gil was fully fit to face Newcastle but Sherwood dropped him as he didn't fancy him. Very odd.
Talksport:
The Spaniard was an unused substation at the weekend in the Midlands club's 1-0 defeat at Newcastle United, sparking rumours he was carrying a knock.
However, Sherwood has revealed the attacking midfielder is fully fit but he must fight - like every player - for his spot in the Villa first-team.
"I preferred someone else [at the weekend]. It is up to Carles now to prove on the training ground that he warrants a place [in the team]," said Sherwood.
"Everyone is up for selection and everyone is going to get an opportunity to play between now and the end of the season."
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Vlaar......
If there's one position you can't afford to chop and change it's the centre backs. He's no use at all if he plays a game or two, then is out of the team comes back rinse repeat.
We wont miss him next season.
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Vlaar is giving jenas a good run for his money
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Just had a look and out of 118 games he's played 76, so that's pretty much 42 matches missed through injury. More than 1 in 3.
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1-1.
Not going to be enough.
I'd take a draw tomorrow, mainly because we just need to stop losing.
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
It really is amateur hour with our Tim
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
It really is amateur hour with our Tim
I'd rather have a bit of bravado than the Lambert/Houlier? Mcliesh 'we cant compete' bollocks
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I'd much, much rather have Okore in than Vlaar every day of the week. And what is it with Senderos? 4 months out with a calf strain? He's been getting tips from Ron I think.
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I keep forgetting Senderos plays for us.
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I get injured most weeks at five a side and I'm back the next week. Modern footballers are wimps.
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I keep forgetting Senderos plays for us.
He doesn't, very much.
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Calf strain? Shouldn't try and lift baby cows then.
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
It really is amateur hour with our Tim
I'd rather have a bit of bravado than the Lambert/Houlier? Mcliesh 'we cant compete' bollocks
I agree as like you I am sick and tired of manager's apologizing for our existence. Mind you it would sound better on the back of 7 wins and not 7 defeats. I think there is a time and a place to act the big one and this might not be it. Then again, he might be thinking "fuck it, we're Aston Villa, let's start acting that way"
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I hope he knows what he's doing but I have my doubts.
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
Thats Pulis' team talk done then. We get more unprofessional by the week
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This is one for Our Tim:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10922424_1032381943456030_7251132486540617245_n.jpg?oh=10ed167ff3c25c0abe6e51f03481f15d&oe=5596DE6B&__gda__=1434924884_19dabd6b4fbbd6e5a663961cf1be04cd)
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He really is a prick.
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Gardner is up there with John Terry in terms of bellend-level for me. Ugly prick too.
(http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/the-simpsons/moe-szyslak/79d5feed-6430-4bba-b878-346ff5270a51_412x232.jpg)
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
Where has he said that ? Got a link
Edit-Found it http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/428465/Aston-Villa-Tim-Sherwood-West-Brom
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Fuck Pulis and fuck WBA, Sherwood is right and he's right to say we are massive,the only fucker who doesn't understand this is the twat who owns us.
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Sherwood pre-game saying WBA are a nice little club but he's glad he's at a massive club. Not helpful IMO, rather than trying to get the fans on side with these comments he needs to do it with results and performances.
Where has he said that ? Got a link
Edit-Found it http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/428465/Aston-Villa-Tim-Sherwood-West-Brom (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/428465/Aston-Villa-Tim-Sherwood-West-Brom)
Express and Star (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2015/03/02/villa-tim-sherwood-pops-at-little-west-brom/)
Sherwood has a pop at 'little' West Brom
Aston Villa manager Tim Sherwood has stoked up tomorrow's West Midlands derby by taking a swipe at 'little' West Brom.
Sherwood was close to being named Baggies head coach last summer before Alan Irvine was appointed.
The former Tottenham manager insists he has no hard feelings at being overlooked for the job.
Sherwood said: "Is there any extra needle in this match for me? Not at all. Good little club isn't it?
"It just wasn't right for me and wasn't right for them. I am delighted to be at this massive club."
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They are a little club and we are a massive one, Sherwood is right. Thats
why Sandwell and Small Heath hate us so much.
We might loose tomorrow, we might get relegated but it won't change it.
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Craig Gardner will no doubt suffer a similar fate as Tait did while supping in the old Clements at some point in the future. The wheel will turn for that gobshite.
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They are a little club and we are a massive one, Sherwood is right. Thats
why Sandwell and Small Heath hate us so much.
We might loose tomorrow, we might get relegated but it won't change it.
Chapman, Barton and Claridge have just said pretty much the same on Monday Night Club on 5Live.
Can't say I disagree.
:D
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He is right, but should not have said it 24 hours before we play them in a game we need to win way more than them!
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Wonder if its some kind of effort to put the focus on him rather than the team? Either way its a strangely provocative thing to say.
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From the Daily Heil (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2976008/Tim-Sherwood-tells-players-m-feeling-pressure-ahead-Aston-Villa-s-derby-against-West-Brom.html)
West Brom have pulled away from the bottom three under Pulis, having kept five clean sheets and gained 12 points in his seven league games at the helm, and Sherwood appreciates the solidity he has brought there.
'Tony's done a very good job, similar to what he did at Crystal Palace last season,' Sherwood admitted.
'He's working with the players he's got – it's horses for courses – and Tony thinks he's got the players to play that way.
'With the players I've got available, with the injuries we've got, I don't think we can do that. We can't put four centre-backs across the back.'
Ron Vlaar has served a one-match ban for his red card in Sherwood's opening 2-1 defeat at home by Stoke City but misses this game with a calf injury. Aly Cissoko, Kieran Richardson, Philippe Senderos and Nathan Baker are also all out injured.
So Sherwood will urge Villa to take the game to West Brom as they seek to end their run of seven consecutive league defeats. Even a point would lift Villa out of the bottom three
'I think we'll have a lot of the football,' Sherwood said. 'We need to be patient and try and open them up the best we can.
'If we get the goal, they'll have to come out and change the strategy. That is our aim, to come out and play on the front foot and break their team down.'
Sherwood added that if Villa beat Albion tonight, he believes that will give them the impetus to stay up. 'I'm only thinking about tomorrow night,' he said. 'Win that, we'll be out the relegation zone and we won't look back.'
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Anyone buying this Berahino big injury doubt?
I remember whenever we used to play Stoke at the Brit when he was there he'd claim pre match half his team would be missing and magically they'd all be right as rain at kick off.
Less worried about Brown Ideye but he has been scoring aswell.
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0-0
We don't do any sort of attacking away from home. We just shove men behind the ball and play for a point. The onus and all the pressure is on you to get a result.
We have a few problems ourselves at the moment with Brown Ideye and Saido Berahino both picking up injuries - that leaves us with the permanent injured Victor Anichebe.
Really looking forward to the game however - we have a great chance to beat you three times in one season which would be nice but the Albion way is a whole heap of disappointment so I wouldn't be surprised to see you win both fixtures.
Ultimately it's the Pulis way. The bloke is good at it. Win 10 home games a season as he did at Stoke and also was on course to do at Palace if he'd had a full season and to stay up you only really need 6-7 away points which is nothing over 19 games. You must be happy you're winning regularly at the Hawthorns surely?
Albion were pretty naive in this game last season. Were 2-0 up after 10 minutes and kept flooding forward. That happens tomorrow night and you won't leave the 18 yard box.
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1-1.
Not going to be enough.
I'd take a draw tomorrow, mainly because we just need to stop losing.
Will pile the pressure on to get at least 4 points from Sunderland and Swansea as I don't see us picking up much in April at all.
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
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Ultimately it's up to us to perform. We haven't done that in a long long time, but if we do we have better players than them overall and we'll win.
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Good on him I reckon. Didn't go far enough in my opinion.
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It's the most positive press conference from a Villa manager for years. I hope it works, it can't be any worse than the inspirational rallying cries of Lambert.
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Exactly.
Don't see much in it to be honest.
Probably because I'm not looking for a story that isn't there.
UTV!
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
No, he should have quoted this from Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle
3. How would you describe West Bromwich Albion football club? A festering turd hanging like a clinker off a tramp's beard.
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Probably because we're under enough pressure as it is without giving a side thats far better than us even more ammunition.
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Probably because we're under enough pressure as it is without giving a side thats far better than us even more ammunition.
Yep. He's effectively written Pulis's team talk .
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Probably because we're under enough pressure as it is without giving a side thats far better than us even more ammunition.
Yep. He's effectively written Pulis's team talk .
Like it will make any difference at all. They're professional footballers and this makes them sound like kids in the playground being told their mum smells.
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Whilst patronising and belittling the opposition is quite funny, I think it will be used by pulis . We won't know unless he says something in public. I expect it to be a full on derby anyway .
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Only remember playing once on my birthday, an extremely late winner against Fulham at Villa Park
If that was Leonhardsen in 2002 that was my birthday too. Under SGT - the sequel.
I can only remember 2 games I've been to on my actual birthday - 1977 at home to Norwich (Little and Gray scored in a 3 nil win) and then this one, on my birthday in 1983
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-v-birmingham-city-7936189
The infamous battle of Brum in '83. Not bad, but I can beat that. We beat Small Heath 6-0 in the Simod Cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988. I was there but I have just tried and failed to find out how many others were. I have an idea it was about eight and a half thousand.
i was at that one- went on the Lloyds bus from Nuneaton.
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If they win Pulis will mention it. If they don't he won't.
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Probably because we're under enough pressure as it is without giving a side thats far better than us even more ammunition.
Yep. He's effectively written Pulis's team talk .
Like it will make any difference at all. They're professional footballers and this makes them sound like kids in the playground being told their mum smells.
But their mom's do smell.
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Mum? Everyone knows it mom!
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Anyway if Sherwood's written their team talk then surely Gardner's written ours?
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Anyway if Sherwood's written their team talk then surely Gardner's written ours?
What's the t**t said ?
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Anyway if Sherwood's written their team talk then surely Gardner's written ours?
What's the t**t said ?
"Shit on da Vile. Now who do I support again this season?"
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Something about putting a nail in our relegation coffin. Only read the headline on this thread a couple of pages back.
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Strangely, this headline isn't getting anywhere near the same attention.
West Brom midfielder Craig Gardner: I hope Aston Villa survive
Craig Gardner says he wouldn’t wish relegation on former club Aston Villa.
Albion can pierce Villa hearts with a victory at Villa Park tomorrow night.
Tim Sherwood’s side have lost both games under his charge and are in the bottom three.
“I know what it is like myself going down with Birmingham City ,” said Gardner, who won the League Cup with Blues four years ago only to fall into the Championship with them just a few months later.
“I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. If you say who would rather go down them or us, obviously I’m going to choose them.
“They are a good side with good players and Tim Sherwood is a good manager. Hopefully they will survive.
"Everyone is fighting for their lives.
"I wouldn’t say it is a decent time to play them because they are at home and fighting like we are.
"There are eight or nine teams in the relegation fight so everyone just needs to win their games.
“I think it will be a thriller for the neutrals. But we want to keep our run going.”
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Really don't understand why Sherwood would provoke WBA before the game ?? Smacks of inexperience .
Why do we get so wound up about the effect of what our players and managers say?
Probably because we're under enough pressure as it is without giving a side thats far better than us even more ammunition.
Yep. He's effectively written Pulis's team talk .
Like it will make any difference at all. They're professional footballers and this makes them sound like kids in the playground being told their mum smells.
I get the impression a lot of footballers are just like kids.
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Massive game tomorrow. I reckon we will sneak it by a Gabby winner. And then hump them on Saturday.
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Grauniad (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/02/aston-villa-tim-sherwood-west-brom-premier-league-survival)
Tim Sherwood’s Aston Villa face West Brom test in dogfight for survival
New manager knows he has his work cut out to keep Aston Villa up but victory over Tony Pulis’s much-improved West Brom on Tuesday would see them pull clear of the relegation zone
Stuart James
@StuartJamesGNM
Monday 2 March 2015 22.30 GMT
At the same time as the “Too little, too late, Lerner out” banner was being unfurled by Aston Villa supporters at St James’ Park late on Saturday afternoon, West Bromwich supporters were inadvertently reinforcing the message by triumphantly celebrating their latest success under Tony Pulis at The Hawthorns, where the value of acting quickly and decisively in the face of a poor run of results is there for all to see.
A glance back at the table shows West Brom were four points and five places behind Villa before Pulis’s first league game in charge, a 1-0 win over Hull City on 10 January. Less than two months later, Albion make the short trip to Villa Park on Tuesday re-energised and transformed, six places and eight points better off than their neighbours, who they also face in the FA Cup quarter-final on Saturday, and with Premier League survival within touching distance.
While we will never know for sure whether Villa’s league position would be any healthier if Paul Lambert had been ushered out of the door a month or two earlier, there is no escaping the fact Tim Sherwood, with defeats from his first two matches and only 11 fixtures remaining, has one hell of a job on his hands to turn around a team who have won only two of their past 23 league games and sit second from bottom.
“It helps when you have a transfer window,” Sherwood said when asked about the comparison with Pulis’s situation at West Brom. “An ideal job would be one that Mauricio Pochettino had [at Tottenham Hotspur], where there is nothing broken. He comes in during the summer, he gets the whole pre-season, strengthens the squad with a few and he gets to build his philosophy. Those jobs don’t come along often, most jobs come along in adversity. And I certainly wasn’t turning this opportunity down.
“Time is of the essence now. We haven’t got the time but we can’t worry about that, that’s how it is. But I’m still confident and I’m not shirking any responsibility. You can’t tip-toe around the situation. The reality is we’re in it but the reality is we’ve got an opportunity to get ourselves out of it. And if we can get ourselves out of it, we ain’t never coming in this situation again, because I will have the opportunity to build something and I won’t let this happen again.
“I think there is enough to work with over a long period. I’m just hoping I’ve got enough time here to save the situation.” For the moment it is all about the short term for Sherwood, which means forgetting about the FA Cup tie against West Brom on Saturday, never mind what he may or may not achieve in seasons to come at Villa.
“First and foremost all we’re worried about is winning this league game against West Brom,” he said. “If we do that, it will take us out of the relegation zone and we’ll never look back.”
That, however, promises to be easier said than done. It is a measure of the predicament Sherwood finds himself in that he openly admitted it is “impossible to find your best XI at the moment” because he is still so new to the role. He also talked about how he is trying to “flush out” the players to tap into their psyche and “find out who has got the big [balls] to go and do the job”.
In the context of what Sherwood is up against, it is perhaps worth remembering when Pulis was appointed at The Hawthorns he described keeping West Brom up as the biggest challenge of his managerial career because of the short amount of time he was given to shake the club back into life.
What has followed since is strikingly similar to Crystal Palace’s revival on his watch last season and can be filed in the folder marked “The Pulis effect”. Pulis was in no mood to give any insight into that description when asked about it last week – he is determined not to say anything that would give the impression that West Brom are safe. You do not have to be a tactical genius to work out that his premise for survival is built on the whole team being a solid defensive unit and that every player has to buy into his holistic approach.
In Pulis’s 26 games in charge at Selhurst Park, Palace had the lowest possession in the league (34.5%), averaged a goal per game but kept 10 clean sheets (only Chelsea, Manchester City and Everton conceded fewer) and recorded the eighth-best point return. Across seven league games as head coach at The Hawthorns, no Premier League team has had less possession than Pulis’s West Brom side, who have scored only six goals but kept five clean sheets (only Liverpool can equal that record) and racked up 12 points in the process.
Not so long ago Sherwood thought he would be in charge at West Brom but he missed out on the job on two occasions, once last summer, when Alan Irvine was given the position, and again when Pulis was appointed. Asked whether those two episodes would add any extra needle to the game, the 46-year-old replied: “Not at all, it’s a good little club and it wasn’t right for me and it wasn’t right for them. I’m delighted I’m at this massive football club now.”
The Villa manager knows the heat is on and he has no intention of trying to lighten the burden on his players.
“If they’re not feeling the pressure, being second bottom of the league, playing for a massive club like Aston Villa, then something’s seriously wrong,” Sherwood said. “They need to feel the pressure. We’ve lost the last seven Premier League games and scored 13 goals all season. Something has to change, and it has to change very soon.”
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Literally can't sleep right now, far too nervous - Come on Villa you owe me.
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Good morning everyone. I would like to claim this as first ever post on H&V from on board a flight on A380 from Dubai to Seoul. So we better win tomorrow as we are Aston Villa the greatest football club on earth and at 41000 feet!
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Literally can't sleep right now, far too nervous - Come on Villa you owe me.
Ditto.... mind way too restless.
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Good morning everyone. I would like to claim this as first ever post on H&V from on board a flight on A380 from Dubai to Seoul. So we better win tomorrow as we are Aston Villa the greatest football club on earth and at 41000 feet!
HEITS!
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I think this is the best line-up hopeful of scoring at least a goal.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/11btbt5.jpg)
I have no doubts whatsoever that Gabby will start later on ::)
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Goldie's pretty much nailed it. The only change I would make would be Westwood for Cleverley.
I'd be interested to see if he will throw Grealish on if we need a goal, rather than those planks Gabby or Weimann.
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So a team who just can not score up against a team who do not let them in and do not score many themselves. Has 0-0 written all over it.
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I woke up this am, came downstairs and first thing i heard was my wife signing a consent form for my son. Doing so she murmured out loud 03/03....a shiver hit as memories of 12 years ago hit me. I now have a horrible feeling about tonight.
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Good morning everyone. I would like to claim this as first ever post on H&V from on board a flight on A380 from Dubai to Seoul. So we better win tomorrow as we are Aston Villa the greatest football club on earth and at 41000 feet!
Somebody posted a little earlier, said they were on the top deck too. Sorry.
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Let's be honest, if they lose 8 in a row then they deserve to have their pay suspended. It's completely unacceptable.
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Time for some positivity. Let's smash the Albion tonight and damn their impudence!
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If we can't beat this bunch of Mickey Mouse chancers we may as well pack it in.
3-1 Villa.
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We really need to score first. And we will. 2-0 Villa
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Let's be honest, if they lose 8 in a row then they deserve to have their pay suspended. It's completely unacceptable.
Let's be honest, if they lose 8 in a row they deserve to be suspended from a makeshift gallows.
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Grauniad (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/02/aston-villa-tim-sherwood-west-brom-premier-league-survival)
Tim Sherwood’s Aston Villa face West Brom test in dogfight for survival
Sherwood v Pulis is more of a cock fight than a dog fight
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Good morning everyone. I would like to claim this as first ever post on H&V from on board a flight on A380 from Dubai to Seoul. So we better win tomorrow as we are Aston Villa the greatest football club on earth and at 41000 feet!
HEITS!
Indeed. UTV.
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Let's be honest, if they lose 8 in a row then they deserve to have their pay suspended. It's completely unacceptable.
Let's be honest, if they lose 8 in a row they deserve to be suspended from a makeshift gallows.
👏👏👏
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Sherwood v Pulis is more of a cock fight than a dog fight
Good one and appropriate in both meaning!
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Good morning everyone. I would like to claim this as first ever post on H&V from on board a flight on A380 from Dubai to Seoul. So we better win tomorrow as we are Aston Villa the greatest football club on earth and at 41000 feet!
Somebody posted a little earlier, said they were on the top deck too. Sorry.
Haha.. Long face but as long as it's in the Villa family.
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First goal is so important tonight. If they get it,they'll sit back and look for a 1-0. If we get it they have to attack us and this will open up the game and hopefully give us more chances.
If only agent Ridgewell was still playing for them.
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What one of them lot thinks. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/03/cups-and-finals/
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I feel sick with nerves about this one. I suppose I will have to get used to that feeling between now and the end of the season. I didn't realise they had injuries up front. That is one bonus.
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Very fair and reasonable article that Dave.
You sure he's a Baggie?
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This is a huge game
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Very fair and reasonable article that Dave.
You sure he's a Baggie?
A proper, old-school gent and a true football supporter.
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This is a huge game
You are right but what they don't seem to realise is that the opposition are irrelevant - its about getting points (and further in the cup)
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Gabby to score first, us to win 2-1. 66-1
Have I just blown a tenner? Probably.
I'm praying that the law of Derby Gabby comes into play and he'll turn up today.
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Gabby to score first, us to win 2-1. 66-1
Have I just blown a tenner? Probably.
I'm praying that the law of Derby Gabby comes into play and he'll turn up today.
Gabby who??....
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My sister's late father-in-law used to tell stories of going to see the Villa and WBA on alternating weekends. He lived in Brum in the early 60's and apparently it was not an unusual thing for a young immigrant to do. But, he was Villa through and through, and an absolute gentleman to boot.
I'm going for a draw in the league and a cup-tie win.
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What one of them lot thinks. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/03/cups-and-finals/
I think (currently) he underplays their hand a little. We are on a dire run - 7 defeats so I don't see us favourites for this one.
We'll see is Beharino is really injured.
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My sister's late father-in-law used to tell stories of going to see the Villa and WBA on alternating weekends. He lived in Brum in the early 60's and apparently it was not an unusual thing for a young immigrant to do. But, he was Villa through and through, and an absolute gentleman to boot.
I'm going for a draw in the league and a cup-tie win.
My father is a Man city fan and he used to do the same with City and United which I find strange, but he said most of his peers did the same.
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Very fair and reasonable article that Dave.
You sure he's a Baggie?
A proper, old-school gent and a true football supporter.
He comes across well on the radio too.
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My sister's late father-in-law used to tell stories of going to see the Villa and WBA on alternating weekends. He lived in Brum in the early 60's and apparently it was not an unusual thing for a young immigrant to do. But, he was Villa through and through, and an absolute gentleman to boot.
I'm going for a draw in the league and a cup-tie win.
My father is a Man city fan and he used to do the same with City and United which I find strange, but he said most of his peers did the same.
It was common here as well. I suppose that with admission relatively cheap and the pubs being shut there was nothing much else to do on a Saturday afternoon.
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I see we have 30,000 due for tonight, and 40,000 due for the weekend. I think we need it to be the other way around to be honest!!!
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I see we have 30,000 due for tonight, and 40,000 due for the weekend. I think we need it to be the other way around to be honest!!!
We'll probably get in around 33k and a bit in tonight, which isn't too bad considering how bad our season's been, annoys me too that we'll get so many more for the cup game but that's the nature of football I guess, crowds are more attracted to the bigger occasion.
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A win Villa. I don't care how you do it, just win.
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Villa 1 baggies nil. Defection off a beach ball
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Club seem to be suggesting a crowd approaching 30000 tonight, can it be as low as that? If it is we are hardly collectively getting behind them are we? I recall that in our first Lambert relegation run in the crowds were quite high.
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What one of them lot thinks. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/03/cups-and-finals/
I think (currently) he underplays their hand a little. We are on a dire run - 7 defeats so I don't see us favourites for this one.
We'll see is Beharino is really injured.
Yes good bloke but they are not the underdogs tonight given current form and styles.
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It's only just dawned on me that we've got a derby game at home on 3/3. As I wasn't feeling sick enough before.
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I see we have 30,000 due for tonight, and 40,000 due for the weekend. I think we need it to be the other way around to be honest!!!
Cheaper prices Saturday, plus the incentive of qualifying for a Wembley ticket if we get there, so I'm not surprised. Had we been away in the cup, or out, I'm sure tonight's gate would have been bigger.
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I'm going to be positive and say we will get a 2-1 win.
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It's only just dawned on me that we've got a derby game at home on 3/3. As I wasn't feeling sick enough before.
I noticed that this morning, it was if I'd caught a glimpse of the grim reaper.
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Very fair and reasonable article that Dave.
You sure he's a Baggie?
A proper, old-school gent and a true football supporter.
Nothing personal then, obviously, but I hope he's really miserable by the end of the week
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I see we have 30,000 due for tonight, and 40,000 due for the weekend. I think we need it to be the other way around to be honest!!!
Cheaper prices Saturday, plus the incentive of qualifying for a Wembley ticket if we get there, so I'm not surprised. Had we been away in the cup, or out, I'm sure tonight's gate would have been bigger.
And they can bring another 4,000 on Saturday.
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Looking forward to tonight. Drink in town before the game with good company, then off to the finest ground in the land, smash our wannabe rivals and see our revival begin before getting to Wembley on Saturday.
UTV
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Looking forward to tonight. Drink in town before the game with good company, then off to the finest ground in the land, smash our wannabe rivals and see our revival begin before getting to Wembley on Saturday.
UTV
What are you drinking already?
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It's only just dawned on me that we've got a derby game at home on 3/3. As I wasn't feeling sick enough before.
As the oul fella used to say 'Eff em, They never came to see me when I was bad'
What is this with Sherwood saying 'This is an important game for us' What is with this US business? The cleaners don't know who he is yet!
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Is it too soon for his Bolton moment
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It's business time. Don't fail us you bastards
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Fuck 'em up. Get into 'em. 3-1 Villa.
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1-0 to Villa. Agbonlahor shins one in and celebrate with his finger over his mouth as he feels he's answered his critics.
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1-0 to Villa. Agbonlahor shins one in and celebrate with his finger over his mouth as he feels he's answered his critics.
If he does that and we win he can do the full messiah pose in the center circle and I will gladly applaud him.
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I feel a bit ill.
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I'm more than confident we'll get all three points tonight, I just need to see the team selection to confirm it.
I'm expecting to see Sanchez back with Cleverly and Delph in front. Sinclair, Gabby and Benteke leading the line.
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If Benteke is going to score again this season, I have a feeling it'll be tonight.
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I've been on edge all day.
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I hate little shit pot clubs like Albion trying to give it the big un, it always reminds me of Bristol Rovers in the cup under Big Ron. I hope things come together for the first time in god knows how long and they get sent back to the 80's tonight with a twatting.
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I've been on edge all day.
My stomach is churning, has been all day.
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I've been on edge all day.
Good luck!Sadly (Happily?) for me I cannot watch the game so I will only see the result afterwards. Which will dampen the emotional reaction either way :)
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I've been on edge all day.
My stomach is churning, has been all day.
My problem is somewhat south of there
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I feel a bit ill.
I feel a bit ill.
This. Alcohol is helping since knocking off work early.
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Looks like I'm seeing double too
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I see we have 30,000 due for tonight, and 40,000 due for the weekend. I think we need it to be the other way around to be honest!!!
We'll probably get in around 33k and a bit in tonight, which isn't too bad considering how bad our season's been, annoys me too that we'll get so many more for the cup game but that's the nature of football I guess, crowds are more attracted to the bigger occasion.
Is it your birthday today?
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I have had a fucking horrible day.
Please end it well Villa. Please.
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We need to win, I have no confidence that we will but.....
2-0 to us. It's the hope that kills me.
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I actually prayed today and i am not religious ...... Just got a feeling about 2-1 Benteke Gil My Lord .....
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Missus birthday yesterday and I booked a table for her at a top end restaurant for tonight. Booked it a few weeks ago and didn't realise we were bloody playing. Mobile at the ready with tinternet. This is will either be a lovely lovey dovey evening. or a shit one with me being short and grumpy and in a mood on her night out without the kids.
lets just hope this doesn't play out the same way the last 03/03 derby did.
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Getting ready to leave and am dreading this. I'm surprised that so many seem so confident given our form and theirs.
Can only see a very comfortable away win.
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I have had a fucking horrible day.
Please end it well Villa. Please.
This applies exactly to me too.
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I have had a fucking horrible day.
Please end it well Villa. Please.
This applies exactly to me too.
Me too, cremation tomorrow as well
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Shitting it. Win tonight and tomorrow things will look so much better. Please play our only decent technical forward (Gil), and please, please Villa... Just win. Somehow.
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Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Westwood, Delph (c), Cleverley, Agbonlahor, N’Zogbia, Benteke
subs: Given, Bacuna, Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Grealish, Weimann.
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Well I don't have time to post it but let me say it is NOT the side I Would have picked tonight
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Well I don't have time to post it but let me say it is NOT the side I Would have picked tonight
Me neither. Oh well.
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And there you go. NZog and Gabby. Blimey
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I have had a fucking horrible day.
Please end it well Villa. Please.
This applies exactly to me too.
Must be something in the air.... My Dad is getting cremated on Thursday. Please Villa win these next two games as my week really doesn't need to get shittier
Me too, cremation tomorrow as well
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That's a crape side
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Gil ??? Wheres the quality pass gonna come from FFS
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Wow.
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Do not remember a day in my Villa fandom life like this. Previously, we've always either worried with some belief or had belief with some worries or had no hope. Tonight, we have hope yet not belief.
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Agbonlahor ??
TC and Westwood too similar
Nzogbia??
Would have tried Gil and Sinclair again , even bacuna
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We lose..
Cannot believe Gil is on the bench again. I cannot believe Gab is set to start ANOTHER crucial game. I cannot believe Cleverley, Westwood and Delph are being peddled out there together again.
None of this has worked the entire season. Why, why?!
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Sherwood out, Lambert IN....shall i start a thread ??
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That's a crape side
You spelled Crape incorrectly. It is Championship side.
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Berahino and Brown start
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Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Westwood, Delph (c), Cleverley, Agbonlahor, N’Zogbia, Benteke
subs: Given, Bacuna, Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Grealish, Weimann.
Holy cow. Feared for it the minute he was appointed - this confirms how far out of his depth he really is. How on earth does Westwood, Cleverley, Gabby, N'Zogbia, or Lowton make the team when none of then, not bloody one, has shown any stomach for the fight (let alone talk quality). That as they say, is a side picked with very little nous about what is going on. I'm completely numb.....
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0-2 them........... Joke line-up ::)
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Berahino and Brown start
Well we kinda knew that was coming.
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Awful, awful selection
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What in the name of all that is holy is N'Zogbia doing in the team ahead of Sinclair?
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Nzogbia !!! you have got to be joking me !!!!!!!
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This is a manager that hasn't had time to really understand how poor some players are, Nzogbia for christ sake he must be remembering the player from five years ago.
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Where is balsa wood Ron?
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What in the name of all that is holy is N'Zogbia doing in the team ahead of Sinclair?
You mean you don't remember his brilliant performance in the second half against Newcastle?
Me neither.
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I'm clinging at anything to be positive....but that's an awful, awful line up.
Prove me wrong. Please.
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Could someone start a Match thread, please?
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Premier League build-up - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/31449424
Berahanp and Ideye passed late fitness tests and start.
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Where is the supply to Benteke? sorry but this team selection is a joke, we need a win and he picks a side that won't get near the albion goal.
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Two weeks ago I had a horrible suspicion the idiots in charge of our club had done the unthinkable. That is, to sack arguably the worst manager in our history - and actually contrive to replace him with someone even worse.
I know this is jumping the gun somewhat, but based on the last two performances, the questionable substitutions within those games, the smartarse interview quotes, a very odd coaching appointment and finally the team selection tonight I've not seen much so far to change my mind.
I will as always be ecstatic to be proved wrong.
Over to you Tim.
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I'm starting to wonder if Gabby is picking the team himself. Him or Stevie Wonder.
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Sinclair and Gil are the only two players that have shown anything to suggest they might create something.
But nah, get Cleverley, Gabby and Charles N'fuckingzogbia in the side.
Christ alive.
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I hope to God he has seen something none of us have in N'Zogbia and Gabby in training that translates to the side tonight. There isn't time to fuck around here. I'd have Bacuna, Gil, Sinclair to name three in the line up tonight. This lot better be up for the fight. Because it is going to be one.