Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ads on February 28, 2015, 08:59:24 PM
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I am not sure what the thoughts are of those who were at the game today, but it was a bit like a trip to Highfield Road.
A number of their fans below us spent most of the game turning round to gesture up at us, while after the game there was a good number of their fans waiting outside giving abuse and chucking things. This actually caused quite a bit of bother as Villa fans surged to try and get at them. Couple this with all the internet nonsense, their sad sack of a manager's comments, and I truly think we've found a new Coventry for one way obsession/hatred of the Villa.
Anybody else get this vibe from today?
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After we took the piss when they were relegated, hardly a surprising reaction is it?
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After we took the piss when they were relegated, hardly a surprising reaction is it?
They should move on. Life's too short.
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There hatred off Mike ashley then all walk round with there sports direct gear on sums them up.
Never liked all that we aRe a big club because we get 40,000 every week fools you lot then for going to watch a club that have never won fuck all for "how many years"
"Wor Jackie " and all that shit if we was the only club for miles we would sell out ev week.
Takes a few ingredients to class yourself as as a big club and they are quite a few ingredients short.
Now fook off to sports direct to buy your slazenger polo shirts for £2.99
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If only opposition supporters did give a fuck about Villa. I don't think any of them do to be honest.
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No chance. Coventry is far more sophisticated and glamorous.
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Yeah I was quite disappointed in their lot today, sure we took the piss a few years ago but we gave great shows of respect to the two who died and also to Gutierrez, so I thought we deserved a bit better than to have all them lot waiting for us after the game. Surprised they were even bothered being as they created absolutely no atmosphere and it felt like we were at home! Sure, you can get over 48,000 fans to turn up but what's the point if they're all going to sit on their hands for 90 minutes?
Maybe we're better off in a relegation fight if that's what mid-table mediocrity's like...
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Yeah I was quite disappointed in their lot today, sure we took the piss a few years ago but we gave great shows of respect to the two who died and also to Gutierrez, so I thought we deserved a bit better than to have all them lot waiting for us after the game. Surprised they were even bothered being as they created absolutely no atmosphere and it felt like we were at home! Sure, you can get over 48,000 fans to turn up but what's the point if they're all going to sit on their hands for 90 minutes?
Maybe we're better off in a relegation fight if that's what mid-table mediocrity's like...
That last sentence is what the Blues used to throw at us. Give me a season of mid-table nothingness over relegation drama any day of the week.
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I kind of feel bad for them. Some of their fans clearly think there is a "rivalry" between our clubs. Honestly I don't know a Villa fan who cares about Newcastle at all.
If any of them reading this want to feel better don't worry I understand. I have a similar thing with ManU. I hate ManU and remember cup finals and humiliations, I thirst for vengeance! The trouble is most ManU fans don't give a damn about Aston Villa.
Same with us and you. We just don't care.
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Look, loads of us took the piss when they went down at VP. Today was their chance to give it back. Our day will come again, and when it does we will take full advantage. Every dog etc etc
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Look, loads of us took the piss when they went down at VP. Today was their chance to give it back. Our day will come again, and when it does we will take full advantage.
But that's the point. When our day comes, we still won't really give a toss about them. We'll laugh at them when they deserve laughing at, but beyond that we'll barely even care that they exist.
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Yeah I was quite disappointed in their lot today, sure we took the piss a few years ago but we gave great shows of respect to the two who died and also to Gutierrez, so I thought we deserved a bit better than to have all them lot waiting for us after the game. Surprised they were even bothered being as they created absolutely no atmosphere and it felt like we were at home! Sure, you can get over 48,000 fans to turn up but what's the point if they're all going to sit on their hands for 90 minutes?
Maybe we're better off in a relegation fight if that's what mid-table mediocrity's like...
That last sentence is what the Blues used to throw at us. Give me a season of mid-table nothingness over relegation drama any day of the week.
Very true, I'll take that back actually.
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I think on the ptch we have been doing a great impressiin of 1990s Coventry for 4 years or so. Dire football and relegation scraps.
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Who cares? Fuck em. Waste of space thread!
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If you give it out, make no mistake, you will have to take it back at some point. There are many who have waited a long time to celebrate our demise, some who are defined by that desire.
However, the season isn't over yet.
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The worrying thing is the way we've been playing, im wondering if we are becoming the new Coventry!
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On the way to the turnstiles yesterday (and those mountains of steps), I got shoulder barged by one of their lot, who nearly sent me flying. It wasn't an accident because he didn't bother to stop and apologise.
As for the bother afterwards, whilst it was going on, we didn't see one policeman down there, it was all just stewards. There was also a barrier in between them and us, which seemed to make the situation worse really. I just wonder if they hadn't had separated both set's of fans and let everyone mingle, people maybe would have just shuffled off on their way.
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We can say that they should get over us taking the piss when they went down, but really, we should just get over the fact that they hate us. They do, they have reason to, and I still don't regret giving them a hard time, because it just felt like the right thing at the time. Following their drop, they aren't actually as annoying now, so it's easy to forget why we gave them such a hard time, but we did, we liked it, they hated it.
If we were to mathematically relegated at Southampton this season, who I can't think have any possible grudge against us, and they hung out banners and mocked us all the way out of the ground (some of our fans were still doing it to Newcastle fans walking down the road outside The Bartons) then I probably would hold something of a grudge to put it mildly.
We haven't been relegated for a while, but it really is bad enough. If it happened against a close rival, you'd expect the piss to be taken, and you'd still expect to carry the hate for it too. We've oddly seen a few teams as they dropped, or just after in our last few fixtures over the last few years, and we haven't done that, at that level, to anyone else. We think anyone would have mocked their oddly incongruous self important desperation, but you can't expect them to see that. If I was a a Newcastle fan, I'd be a bit baffled, and hate us, probably forever. There's no mystery to it.
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The way things are going I think we are more likely to be playing at the Ricoh than going back to St James Park (or whatever it is called this week)
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I couldn't give a shit whether these small-time apes hate us or not. I don't want us to be liked by any football club. I'd just rather it was because we were good, rather than because we were doing what all football fans do - and should do - and that's take the piss out of the opposition, whoever they may be.
We struck Newcastle by deftly poking at their precious cultural myths, with which the UK media has gladly indulged them. Any team that sends us down will struggle to find any media-created myths about Birmingham, other than it's shit and full of concrete and we're all thick. "You're really up the Spaghetti Junction now!" "Who's your new Messiah, Ozzy or, erm, that bloke out of Crossroads." Etc. It won't have the same effect.
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Coventry have won a trophy in the colour TV era.
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If you give it out, make no mistake, you will have to take it back at some point. There are many who have waited a long time to celebrate our demise, some who are defined by that desire.
However, the season isn't over yet.
I don't blame Newcastle either. I think we would all remember a group of fans kicking us when we were down (literally). But clubs like Newcastle and ourselves have to realise other clubs fans will have more interest and probably more reason to take the piss if we go down rather than the likes of Wigan or Burnley. Bigger targets and all that.
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Coventry have won a trophy in the colour TV era.
That would mean nothing to Newcastle fans as they didn't have colour TV in the North East in 1987.
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I couldn't give a shit whether these small-time apes hate us or not. I don't want us to be liked by any football club. I'd just rather it was because we were good, rather than because we were doing what all football fans do - and should do - and that's take the piss out of the opposition, whoever they may be.
We struck Newcastle by deftly poking at their precious cultural myths, with which the UK media has gladly indulged them. Any team that sends us down will struggle to find any media-created myths about Birmingham, other than it's shit and full of concrete and we're all thick. "You're really up the Spaghetti Junction now!"
I never thought it would happen with me and the girl from Lozells.
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Look, loads of us took the piss when they went down at VP. Today was their chance to give it back. Our day will come again, and when it does we will take full advantage. Every dog etc etc
The 6-0 after they came straight back up was their mick take for a lifetime although our general record up there is pretty abysmal.
I loved it when we sent them down with the whole hysteria of Keegan and all that back then so that was enough for me. Since they've come up I'm pretty indifferent as their fans have quietened down realising mid table is as good as it gets for them under Mike Ashley.
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I never watch match of the day when we lose, but last night I couldn't even bring myself to watch ant and Dec with the kids
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They have some hairy backed simpletons for fans, but doesn't every club?
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At the end of the day it's all banter. No big deal.
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I couldn't give a shit whether these small-time apes hate us or not. I don't want us to be liked by any football club. I'd just rather it was because we were good, rather than because we were doing what all football fans do - and should do - and that's take the piss out of the opposition, whoever they may be.
We struck Newcastle by deftly poking at their precious cultural myths, with which the UK media has gladly indulged them. Any team that sends us down will struggle to find any media-created myths about Birmingham, other than it's shit and full of concrete and we're all thick. "You're really up the Spaghetti Junction now!" "Who's your new Messiah, Ozzy or, erm, that bloke out of Crossroads." Etc. It won't have the same effect.
Exactly.
Almost any club other than Newcastle wouldn't have got the treatment they got at VP that day. It's their self-appointed 'best fans in the world' attitude that really winds people up, and that day was a bit of Schadenfreuder.
Yeah they get big crowds, but Tyneside (because it is Tynesside and not just Newcastle) has a population of 1 million, and almost no ethnic minorities. Birmingham has 1 million people, 2 or 3 teams and about 40% Asian, who traditionally do not go to football matches.
Also when they come to VP they are, without exception, the most boorish, arrogant and aggressive fans going.
They got their just deserts that day, and we hit a nerve. Truth hurts.
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I couldn't give a shit whether these small-time apes hate us or not. I don't want us to be liked by any football club. I'd just rather it was because we were good, rather than because we were doing what all football fans do - and should do - and that's take the piss out of the opposition, whoever they may be.
We struck Newcastle by deftly poking at their precious cultural myths, with which the UK media has gladly indulged them. Any team that sends us down will struggle to find any media-created myths about Birmingham, other than it's shit and full of concrete and we're all thick. "You're really up the Spaghetti Junction now!" "Who's your new Messiah, Ozzy or, erm, that bloke out of Crossroads." Etc. It won't have the same effect.
Exactly.
Almost any club other than Newcastle wouldn't have got the treatment they got at VP that day. It's their self-appointed 'best fans in the world' attitude that really winds people up, and that day was a bit of Schadenfreuder.
Yeah they get big crowds, but Tyneside (because it is Tynesside and not just Newcastle) has a population of 1 million, and almost no ethnic minorities. Birmingham has 1 million people, 2 or 3 teams and about 40% Asian, who traditionally do not go to football matches.
Also when they come to VP they are, without exception, the most boorish, arrogant and aggressive fans going.
They got their just deserts that day, and we hit a nerve. Truth hurts.
Off topic and irrelevant but is Birmingham 40% Asian?
Regarding the northern neanderthals, banter all you because we deserve every bit we get but gesturing behind a fence and throwing things is a bit pathetic. They beat us, we are probably going down but throwing things and being violent especially when there are kids around pathetic and shows the Geordie Shore dick heads what they are about.
Sheeeerah can fuck himself too
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I'm fine with them hating us for sending them up, but what is annoying is the anecdotes that get more and more outrageous every year.
This year the Villa fans were spitting and throwing things at the Newcastle coaches after the game, a woman was attacked by a male Villa fan outside the away end and other made up internet rubbish.
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The worrying thing is the way we've been playing, im wondering if we are becoming the new Coventry!
Or Forest or Leeds or Derby ...
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I heard several Newcastle fans were literally hung draw and quartered by Villa fans that day.
I mean they got better... but still... pure evil that Villa lot.