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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Loxton01 on February 02, 2015, 08:55:11 AM
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No matter how bad you are in open play ...... There's still hope for some teams from set pieces however not Villa under this manager! Why not I ask!
We have some big players and yet we look totally clueless from set pieces I can't remember the last goal or even chance we created! So surely that's one thing that can be worked on
Other ideas other than sacking the manager
1. Bring an ex villa player into the coaching staff who can bring some ideas and passion and an understanding of what it means to play for Villa
2. Never ever play a team compromising of all of Sanchez Delph and cleverley! We have to play with more tempo and it doesn't need all three of these players
3. Don't rely on the fullbacks as our sole source of width!
4. Play forward passes even at the risk of losing the ball
5. Use Benteke's height and power to put advantage to not be trying to hit him from the keeper is criminal
6. Stop taking the ball off our centre halves in our final third let them bring it out meaning we are further up the pitch
7. Whenever the player is on the ball the team has to give him a min of two options if not players are not moving enough to find space
8. Use the channels and cross the ball! Everytime we hit the final third one of our midfielders must be in the box with a late run instead of crossing with one man there
9. Aim to be in the oppositions half within three passes
10. Practice set pieces find ways to score from then
Let's hope Lambert reads and takes some of our ideas on board
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I would add;
1. Get some sort of clear, coherant plan for throws ins. It is such a basic yet fundamental part of the game and yet we must have gifted Arsenal the ball 10 times from our throws. Letting a fullback wang it as far down the line to Benteke with no one else around him is ridiculously basic
2. When defending corners leave 1 or 2 men up field. It doesnt need to be Benteke but Weimann and Gil offer very little when defending them anyway. Having all of your players in your own box is false economy as it means the opposition can push a couple of extra people in there as well with nothing to worry about. It also means that when we clear it the opposition have another free go at getting it back in there.
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I think i'd take Gill off corner taking duties for a start. The Arsenal keeper seemed to catch nearly every one yesterday.
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2. Never ever play a team compromising of all of cleverley
Fixed.
When Westwood came on yesterday he really was pretty good, made a couple of sharp passes and that shot which was saved. He's much better than Cleverley.
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2. Never ever play a team compromising of all of cleverley
Fixed.
When Westwood came on yesterday he really was pretty good, made a couple of sharp passes and that shot which was saved. He's much better than Cleverley.
Absolutely, time for TC to go back to the ManUre
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I would add;
1. Get some sort of clear, coherant plan for throws ins. It is such a basic yet fundamental part of the game and yet we must have gifted Arsenal the ball 10 times from our throws. Letting a fullback wang it as far down the line to Benteke with no one else around him is ridiculously basic
A regular gripe of mine - almost always lose the ball within 2 touches from a throw (watch out for it on Saturday) - the movement and options to the thrower are woeful. This is simple stuff surely??
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We're shocking at throw-in's.....and why don't we do a corner to the near post for a flick on?
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Exactly, KD.
I was telling my mate on Sunday how, when TGGT was manager, every free-kick and corner was an inswinger with someone looking for the near-post flick-on. it worked well and resulted in several goals.
I know that the game has changed a lot but how is lobbing the ball up for the keeper to catch it an improvement on the old methods?
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All these ideas would only come to fruition if...
we sacked the manager
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Exactly. Can we stop pretending we don't have an inept, clueless manager. It's starting to get silly.
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Whenever anybody asks for ideas it reminds me of when McCroskey asks Johnny if he has any ideas in Airplane.
"We could have a version of Hollywood squares, but for kids. Gary Coleman could host".
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I'd also add
11. Give Lambo his cards and ignore all previous points.
He's the root cause of all our woes.
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1. Bring an ex villa player into the coaching staff who can bring some ideas and passion and an understanding of what it means to play for Villa
Not having a go at you, but I will never, ever understand some of the thinking that goes behind people suggesting this.
The other day, someone said "Get Peter Withe in. And Gary Shaw".
Peter Withe has been coaching twelve year olds in Asia, and Gary Shaw has been working as a salesman for a brewery for 20 years (I think).
How on earth do people think appointments like that, based purely on the idea that someone is "Villa through and through", are going to work out?
How are people like that, or people who have never managed or coached at any high level, going to come in here, into a league which, in some cases, bears zero recognition to that which they played in for us, and hit the ground running at sufficient pace to somehow contribute enough to turn things around?
Honestly, does anyone really think that getting someone in to try to get the likes of - players picked at random - Okore, Bacuna, Benteke, Sanchez - to play better purely by explaining "what it means to play for Aston Villa"?
Really?
Like when, say, Newcastle got Alan Shearer in, no doubt with the same line of thought, and his only contribution turned out to be to make their relegation even funnier than it already was?
Suggestions like that make me think that maybe Lerner and co aren't as stupid as we think they are, as there's no chance they'll go near that type of idea, and with good reason.
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2. Never ever play a team compromising of all of cleverley
Fixed.
When Westwood came on yesterday he really was pretty good, made a couple of sharp passes and that shot which was saved. He's much better than Cleverley.
Absolutely.
Cleverley is absolutely shite, Westwood is no world beater, but offers way more.
I bet you what you like Cleverley starts this weekend, though.
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I'd also add
11. Give Lambo his cards and ignore all previous points.
He's the root cause of all our woes.
I want him out as well, but the root cause of all our woes? Really?
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Strange to reflect on the fact that under MoN we were the dead ball specialists of Da Prem and were often criticised that virtually all of our goals came from this source.
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Strange to reflect on the fact that under MoN we were the dead ball specialists of Da Prem and were often criticised that virtually all of our goals came from this source.
However, the context there was that we were trying to get into the top 4 and to do that we'd need to develop the ability to score through open play rather than be a more succesful version of Stoke RFC.
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I wasn't sure which thread to post this in. I think that one key thing that can make the difference is us the fans, not in a email Tom Fox, have a protest way (not that those opinions or options aren't valid) More of a turn up and get behind the team 100% way.
My reasoning is that on paper our first 11 isn't to bad at all, and arguably the best we have had in a while. So if that is the case and the problem is poor tactics, a lack of self belief and in some cases a poor attitude maybe a full Villa Park is the answer.
Imagine Benteke hearing his name sung for the first time in a while, however undeserved it may make him up his game, believe in himself and run teams ragged again. The noise the Holte can make we all know is amazing, with that behind them, may make them forget what the manager has told them and just play with passion and for each other. So we become the boss, there's been talk of getting a person who is villa through and through in to help, I agree with those that think the likes of Withe, Shaw or Big Ron won't work. But how about 40 thousand villa men in charge.
Anyway I don't normally post, happier to leave that to those that are better at it, but wanted to share this.
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I find it faintly amusing that we spent all that time conceding goals from corners, yet have no idea how to put in a vaguely threatening one ourselves.
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We have a broad spectrum of ways to concede a goal. It's another of our strengths.
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I find it faintly amusing that we spent all that time conceding goals from corners, yet have no idea how to put in a vaguely threatening one ourselves.
Too busy watching the ball to pay any attention to what was actually happening.