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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: not3bad on January 17, 2015, 07:09:32 PM
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Must be the most positive I've felt after a 2-0 defeat! Here's why...
Nobody will be left in any doubt how popular Cleverly is after the crowd's reaction to his substitution. There's an outside chance we won't see him in a Villa shirt. No bitterness it just didn't work out. I think he may need to try the Championship to find his level.
The same cannot be said for Carles Gil! Very promising debut and the crowd love him already!
The introduction of Gil served as a catalyst for good second half performances from Sanchez, Delph and Hutton. The midfield were passing and moving! There were even flashes of impudent skill near the end! OK, this would be more enjoyable to watch if we weren't losing but the fact that the players had the confidence to play like this is very heartening.
However you feel about Lambert he looks like he may again have proved that when he's got a reasonable amount of money to spend, he can pick a player.
Next week is a good time to have a cup match. The players won't feel the same pressure they do when playing in the league and I believe we'll see a good performance and a good win. This will be a great boost for the remainder of the season.
Nurse! Where's my meds!!
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ha.
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The only reason to be cheerful is that it is one game closer to the end of Lambert's tenure as manager.
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Good on you. I needed to hear something positive.
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bstitution. There's an outside chance we won't see him in a Villa shirt.
I bet he starts the next league game.
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Probably just my negative mood but I am getting a whiff of Didier Six when it comes to tales of Gil's debut and how well things may pan out.
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Only 3.5 more years of lambert hooray
Roll on summer 2018.
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bstitution. There's an outside chance we won't see him in a Villa shirt.
I bet he starts the next league game.
Today was there perfect chance to change things up completely. Play Grealish, play Gil, drop Gabby etc etc. And what happened? Exactly what we all thought would happen. I have no doubt that next league game Gil is on the bench and McLeish MkII picks Cleverley over him.
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I just won season 1 of Sledge Hammer from someone ebay, so i'm cheerful. Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em.
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Only 3.5 more years of lambert hooray
Roll on summer 2018.
At last, some sense ! A club up for sale is not going to get rid of manager on a new 4 year contract. He is the continuity in a sale/ new regime and we wouldn't be able to pay him up amyway !.?
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I just won season 1 of Sledge Hammer from someone ebay, so i'm cheerful. Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em.
Thursday nights 10.30? Sledge Hammer, Married With Children and what was that fifties/sixties thing? Followed by Mariella Frostrup reviwing films.
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Having just watched Carles Gil's first appearance in a Villa there's a lot be cheerful about tonight.
Players of his type are a joy to watch but they've always been playing for other clubs - while our heroes have been defenders or big lump centre-forwards.
Of course it's too early to judge him properly, but he made a miserable old git like me cheerful.
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Impudent skill?! *splutter*
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Seeing Cleverly played on the right wing it wouldn't be the most outlandish thing to think there's a clause in his loan agreement that contractually obliges Lambert to pick him for every game.
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Some chap won festival tickets at half time. That was nice.
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I just won season 1 of Sledge Hammer from someone ebay, so i'm cheerful. Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em.
Thursday nights 10.30? Sledge Hammer, Married With Children and what was that fifties/sixties thing? Followed by Mariella Frostrup reviwing films.
Mariella Frostrup reviewing films. Time for my shower.
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Some chap won festival tickets at half time. That was nice.
Left footer as well.
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Carles Gil.
Let's clone him. I wouldn't mind it if Lambert wanted to play four players like him.
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Must be the most positive I've felt after a 2-0 defeat! Here's why...
Nobody will be left in any doubt how popular Cleverly is after the crowd's reaction to his substitution. There's an outside chance we won't see him in a Villa shirt. No bitterness it just didn't work out. I think he may need to try the Championship to find his level.
The same cannot be said for Carles Gil! Very promising debut and the crowd love him already!
The introduction of Gil served as a catalyst for good second half performances from Sanchez, Delph and Hutton. The midfield were passing and moving! There were even flashes of impudent skill near the end! OK, this would be more enjoyable to watch if we weren't losing but the fact that the players had the confidence to play like this is very heartening.
However you feel about Lambert he looks like he may again have proved that when he's got a reasonable amount of money to spend, he can pick a player.
Next week is a good time to have a cup match. The players won't feel the same pressure they do when playing in the league and I believe we'll see a good performance and a good win. This will be a great boost for the remainder of the season.
Nurse! Where's my meds!!
I'd go along with that and I thought Gil made a difference when he came on. His touch and a couple of pieces of sublime skill only really highlighted the lack of quality we have had to endure on a weekly basis from the likes of Agbonlahor and Weimann.
Whether Lambert has the imagination to build on the flashes we saw in the second half is a big question, especially as it should mean dropping Cleverley and Westwood for a start.
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We mustn't lose our minds over Gil - he's a pretty good player it seems, and let's hope he does well, but we can't expect him to be a genius every week. What he is is something we haven't had in a really, really long time - I just don't trust Lambert to use him correctly at all.
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Yep people getting a bit giddy over Gil, he did ok but it's going to take much more than Gil to turn this around .
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Yep people getting a bit giddy over Gil, he did ok but it's going to take much more than Gil to turn this around .
It's desperation isn't it? See: Straws; clutching at.
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Hel get a bollocking for that step over. Fancy fucking Dan
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Can you imagine if Grealish had been on the other side as well? It's a shame he's not deemed good enough for the bench.
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Grealish and Bacuna, you know, wingers, with Gil in the middle.
That's not getting giddy, that's just common sense. Alas we can expect precious little of that from a man who picks four central midfielders, may the Others take him.
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I liked Gil a lot. Deft, quick feet, confident, titchy, awareness. All we need is for Benteke to stop being in a strop and we might get some goals. The combination of Carles Gil and Alan Hutton down the right flank will be like facing a bull and a matador.
The thing which cheered me up most was us displaying a sense of humour and maturity as fans by singing "We'll score again, don't know where don't know when" OURSELVES and not having it sung at us by the self styled comic geniuses of Merseyville.
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We mustn't lose our minds over Gil - he's a pretty good player it seems, and let's hope he does well, but we can't expect him to be a genius every week. What he is is something we haven't had in a really, really long time - I just don't trust Lambert to use him correctly at all.
My concern is a couple of weeks at B6 and Lambert will have Carles sinking to the Lambert style of play, dross
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Whether Lambert has the imagination to build on the flashes we saw in the second half is a big question, especially as it should mean dropping Cleverley and Westwood for a start.
Think Westwood may still have a part to play but it's pointless playing him and Cleverly in the same side as they're too similar.
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Whether Lambert has the imagination to build on the flashes we saw in the second half is a big question, especially as it should mean dropping Cleverley and Westwood for a start.
Think Westwood may still have a part to play but it's pointless playing him and Cleverly in the same side as they're too similar.
I agree. Of the two, Westwood moves more intelligently, is more likely to make an interesting pass, is better at set-pieces, is more assertive on the field etc. The only thing Cleverley has on him is...actually I can't think of anything.
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I genuinely can't think of any reason to be cheerful about Villa at the moment.
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Whether Lambert has the imagination to build on the flashes we saw in the second half is a big question, especially as it should mean dropping Cleverley and Westwood for a start.
Think Westwood may still have a part to play but it's pointless playing him and Cleverly in the same side as they're too similar.
I agree. Of the two, Westwood moves more intelligently, is more likely to make an interesting pass, is better at set-pieces, is more assertive on the field etc. The only thing Cleverley has on him is...actually I can't think of anything.
I'd say he's marginally quicker off the mark than Westwood, and maybe looks much more purposeful when flapping his arms around asking for a pass.
I'm pretty sure the Youtube clip I watched showed him back in 2009 dribbling past some defenders, but apparently you can forget how to do that properly over time.
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I genuinely can't think of any reason to be cheerful about Villa at the moment.
Carlos Sanchez. It's a long time since we had a midfielder that's a pleasure to watch.
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bstitution. There's an outside chance we won't see him in a Villa shirt.
I bet he starts the next league game.
I'm amazed we even signed him. Given the fact that he appeared to not want to come in the first place.
Its the same as TSM buying CNZ. He messed him about when he was trying buy him while at SHA, yet he still went for him after he came here.
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I genuinely can't think of any reason to be cheerful about Villa at the moment.
Carlos Sanchez. It's a long time since we had a midfielder that's a pleasure to watch.
In the context of our overall team performances though that kind is overwhelmed by how poor we are. I agree Carlos looks a good player, but in our current team he's not able to flourish.
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We're not Blues, Albion, Wolves or Chaventry. There's 4 right there.
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We're not Blues, Albion, Wolves or Chaventry. There's 4 right there.
Although we may well finish lower in our respective division than the rest of them.
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Are what exactly????......