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Title: January Squad Changes
Post by: Ads on December 14, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
I know we have a rumour thread but thought it might be useful to discuss what needs to happen transfer wise to shape the squad further.

January is always notoriously troublesome, so the managers tell us, so I don't think much will happen, but for me we need a change creatively. N'Zogbia hasn't come back from his injury with any conviction and looks poorer than before. I think if we can invest in a creative outlet as a replacement we would be all the better for it. I would use the Cleverley money, as you could buy good quality on the continent for £7million.

Does anybody know when Charlie's contract is up?

Going the other way, if somebody comes in for Vlaar, he can go. I always thought and hope Okore was a good player and he is currently proving it. I was surprised by Senderos and I want to applaud Clark for really stepping up to the plate. Vlaar is no leader.

Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: silhillvilla on December 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
I doubt we will do any incoming deals in Jan .
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: eamonn on December 14, 2014, 12:19:50 PM
Cant we unleash the mods of hell on these spammers before worrying about our squad?
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: brontebilly on December 14, 2014, 12:51:40 PM
Would like to see Delph made captain and signed to a long term deal as the top priority.

Apart from that, a January window similar to the time we got Carew in for Baros and signed Ashley Young would be very welcome. 10 league goals at this stage of the season is an embarrassment. I see us requiring strengthening in the following three areas:

Goalscoring box to box midfielder
Mobile centre forward capable of playing off Benteke or even replacing him long term
Wide forward that is an upgrade on Gabby and Weimann

I guess Cleverley will continue to be given chances in the first role as the loan is for the season. That one might require change in the summer. I wouldnt mind seeing Bacuna given a few games there as he does have great energy and can score goals as witnessed last season. With Sanchez as the anchor midfielder, hopefully Delph can push further forward too.

Danny Ings to me is the player we should be going all out for in Jan for the second position. Just think he is the perfect fit for us, reminds me of a young Robbie Keane in his play.

The third is a bit trickier. We and lots of other clubs will probably be linked with the likes of Valencia, Young, Lennon, Joel Campbell and Townsend. Wouldnt mind seeing us spending big money on the likes of Dimitri Payet (Marseilles) as a statement of intent. But that is highly unlikely.





Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: aj2k77 on December 14, 2014, 01:36:44 PM
Unfortunately we have that donkey N'zogbia till 2016.

I'd be looking at ditching the ''4-3-3'' tactic firstly as we've done shit at it, go too defensive and have Gabby and Wiemann spending most of the game tracking back.

If we have no money Januzaj could be worth a loan gamble to help in the attacking Mid department. I'd be sending back Cleverley and looking to get a better quality partner for Benteke.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Monty on December 14, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
If we had an actual attacking midfielder we might be less shit at 4-3-3. However, it appears that the UN has declared Bodymoor Heath a Playmaker-Free-zone (PFZ), seeing as that's the only possible explanation as to why we haven't signed one in ten years.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Legion on December 14, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
Cant we unleash the mods of hell on these spammers before worrying about our squad?

Hopefully all sorted now.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 14, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
If we had an actual attacking midfielder we might be less shit at 4-3-3. However, it appears that the UN has declared Bodymoor Heath a Playmaker-Free-zone (PFZ), seeing as that's the only possible explanation as to why we haven't signed one in ten years.

"Number tens, as I like to call them"
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 14, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
Some stuff I've realised lately

Cleverley can go back. Has shown nothing to suggest he's worth that much money and is too similar to a player we already have.

Vlaar, I would keep if we could, but I wouldn't be too bothered if we lost him.

Delph, on the other hand, we should go all out to keep. He's easily one of our best players. I don't care if he's good enough to play elsewhere at this club or that, he's good enough to help us improve, so I want us to keep him.

re the centre backs. we've all laid into Clark in the past when we thought he deserved it, and it is only a handful of games, but him and Okore have been excellent.

I would be gutted to see them lose that opportunity to remain our starting pair there.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: old man villa fan on December 14, 2014, 08:41:03 PM
Some stuff I've realised lately

Cleverley can go back. Has shown nothing to suggest he's worth that much money and is too similar to a player we already have.

Vlaar, I would keep if we could, but I wouldn't be too bothered if we lost him.

Delph, on the other hand, we should go all out to keep. He's easily one of our best players. I don't care if he's good enough to play elsewhere at this club or that, he's good enough to help us improve, so I want us to keep him.

re the centre backs. we've all laid into Clark in the past when we thought he deserved it, and it is only a handful of games, but him and Okore have been excellent.

I would be gutted to see them lose that opportunity to remain our starting pair there.

Wouldn't disagree with any of that but we need a player in the midfield that can control the game and dictate play.  Sanchez looks as though he can play the deep role but we need somebody further up the pitch.  We have needed such a player for years.  Westwood is too lightweight and lacks quickness off the mark to create space
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: tom jennings III on December 15, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
If we had an actual attacking midfielder we might be less shit at 4-3-3. However, it appears that the UN has declared Bodymoor Heath a Playmaker-Free-zone (PFZ), seeing as that's the only possible explanation as to why we haven't signed one in ten years.

"Number tens, as I like to call them"

Still can't quite believe he said that. And.... then didn't sign one!
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: supertom on December 15, 2014, 03:50:24 PM
For me we need to start looking at more quality in midfield. Sanchez is fine. Delph is quality but probably going. So he'll need replacing. I don't think Westwood or Cleverley are good enough.

Gabby, Weimann and Zogbia should all be replaced with better. They're supposed to be the ones creating things but aren't good enough. We need a good winger and a good playmaker.

I think we need at least 4 good players in the next couple of windows. The priority for Jan is a quality midfielder, and a quality attacking play who can play across the top.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: dekko on December 15, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
I think we need at least 4 good players in the next couple of windows. The priority for Jan is a quality midfielder, and a quality attacking play who can play across the top.

This is the big one for me.  Broadly speaking I think the current squad would be good enough to finish comfortably mid table if it weren't for the chronic lack of creativity.  Get in someone who can unlock a defence or beat his man and deliver a decent cross and even Gabby and Andi might start performing.

Longer term we'll need to look at the above plus replacements for Delph and Benteke, upgrades on the entire midfield except Sanchez, and better wide forwards.  As far as January is concerned though, we need a 10, fast, and the rest can wait.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
If we had an actual attacking midfielder we might be less shit at 4-3-3. However, it appears that the UN has declared Bodymoor Heath a Playmaker-Free-zone (PFZ), seeing as that's the only possible explanation as to why we haven't signed one in ten years.

"Number tens, as I like to call them"

Still can't quite believe he said that. And.... then didn't sign one!

I must be the only one who isn't shocked by calling a play maker a number 10. I have heard plenty of people inside and outside the game call a player a number 10. What is the problem?

If he had used the term trequartista then I could understand. That is the lexis of choice for sockless espadrille wearing, carrot bottom jeaned, [usually] Arsenal supporting twats who take their iPads to games so they can take pictures when a corner is being taken. ******.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Dave on December 16, 2014, 09:50:17 AM
If we had an actual attacking midfielder we might be less shit at 4-3-3. However, it appears that the UN has declared Bodymoor Heath a Playmaker-Free-zone (PFZ), seeing as that's the only possible explanation as to why we haven't signed one in ten years.

"Number tens, as I like to call them"

Still can't quite believe he said that. And.... then didn't sign one!

I must be the only one who isn't shocked by calling a play maker a number 10. I have heard plenty of people inside and outside the game call a player a number 10. What is the problem?
It's nothing to do with his use of the term, it's the fact that he's cushioned it with the implication that he was using some secret footballing tactical lingo.

Had he just said "we need to sign a number-10 style player" then nobody bats an eyelid at what he says.

He says "we need to sign the type of player that I like to call a number-10", then he looks a bit silly. To me and clearly to several others, at least.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2014, 09:53:40 AM
That's not the inference that I took.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: chrisw1 on December 16, 2014, 09:55:29 AM
Of all the things to beat Lambert up over, and there are a few, surely this is the most ridiculous?  What next, wearing the wrong socks?
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Dave on December 16, 2014, 09:55:39 AM
That's not the inference that I took.

*shrugs*

That's what it was for me, I can't speak for paulie, tom, Monty and others.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: RussellC on December 16, 2014, 12:01:56 PM
That's not the inference that I took.



*shrugs*

That's what it was for me, I can't speak for paulie, tom, Monty and others.

That's certainly what made the comments a bit 'Steve McClaren-esque' in my eyes.  As others have said, what made the whole thing even more bizarre is that he didn't then follow it up by actually signing one. Unless he genuinely thought that Joe Cole was said player.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Damo70 on December 17, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
That's not the inference that I took.

*shrugs*

That's what it was for me, I can't speak for Paulie, Tom, Monty and others.

Paulie, Tom, Monty and others sounds like a seventies BBC1 cartoon. Monty could be the cat as Tom the cat is too much like Tom and Jerry. Tom could be a wise owl and Paulie could be a Pterodactyl. Fair more exciting for the kids than something like a pig.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 18, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
Interesting to see what happens with Lowton and Bacuna in Jan. Both add depth to the squad, but I'm not sure either are good enough to keep Hutton out of the side.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: Dave on December 18, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
I don't really see anything happening with them. We need them to add depth to the squad, and both will be earning comfortably more than they have at any other club while not breaking the bank for us to pay their wages. So I can't see them being particularly unhappy.

As we're seeing this weekend, Hutton's not averse to having the odd suspension either so I'm sure they'll both get time to play.
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: WarszaVillan on December 18, 2014, 09:45:27 AM
Of all the things to beat Lambert up
over, and there are a few, surely this is the most ridiculous?  What next, wearing the wrong socks?

I think it all started to go wrong when he shifted from tracksuits to M&S jumpers
Title: Re: January Squad Changes
Post by: pbavfckuwait on December 18, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
January squad changes, can we change ours for Real Madrid's please Santa
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