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Title: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 30, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
Some positives in the performance to take from Burnley to take into this one, together with Benteke coming back.

Cole may not be capable of playing another game so close, so if he doesn't start then we need to go like for like with Grealish coming in. The difference Cole made with the speed and inteligence of the balls he played or the movement of his runs left me scratching my head as where that had been for the past two and a bit seasons. It brought other players up a level too.

Benteke in for Gabby and Grealish in for Cole is all the changes I would make.

We will win this one. 1-3 Villa, with a Benteke brace.

Mods, a sticky and a poll if you please.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on November 30, 2014, 11:43:27 AM
When's this? Tuesday/Wednesday?

Can only see a loss here tbh.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 30, 2014, 11:44:19 AM
Tuesday.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2014, 11:46:21 AM
Any word on Clark? Or do we get Okore and Lowton at centre-back?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 30, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
1-1. Villa to score just before HT and concede just before FT.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on November 30, 2014, 12:05:12 PM
God, this is all getting too like Groundhog Day.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 30, 2014, 12:06:15 PM
God, this is all getting too like Groundhog Day.

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10416636_970462376314654_2079898682709005182_n.jpg?oh=4e915b622759082b583fc36c7e21a023&oe=55043026)
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on November 30, 2014, 12:22:03 PM
This game for me is the absolute measure of our season. Palace are a semi-established top flight side now with who are hard working and with some flair going forward. They're a better team than either Burnley or QPR and with more vocal support plus a nasty recent habit of beating Villa which all points towards a tough game. Having said that looking at their first XI against ours they don't have many players I would take, Mcarther maybe? So if we go into this game playing the right football and feeding Benteke anything other than scraps I think they are there for the taking.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 30, 2014, 12:45:03 PM
They beat us twice last season. If anything I think we are worse this season. 2-0 Palace.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on November 30, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
Palace are a (better) different proposition to Burnley.
They will have too much for us.

2-0 home win! Bolasie to have a field day.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on November 30, 2014, 01:00:26 PM
I'm going for a Palace 1-0 win.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2014, 01:21:40 PM
Grealish for Cole

Benteke for gabby

Not overly keen on Weimann but I think he's got three goals two assists , so would probably bring gabby on for 25 mins when people are tiring . Gabby always starts ok but he can't concentrate for a full game.

We need a point here . I'm going for 1 1.  But this is a much harder game than Burnley

Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on November 30, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
2-1 villa win
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 30, 2014, 01:30:27 PM
I don't know what it is but if I'm not watching Villa and see, like yesterday, Whoever 0 Villa 1 (not often admittedly) and see Weimann has scored I immediately think we must be playing shit again. Not sure what it is and it's probably total unfair. If he scores at home I'm expecting it to be a game with goals that we have shown defensive frailties. Have we turned him into that or is that level as good as we're going to achieve as a team?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 30, 2014, 01:56:30 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 30, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
Probably score and then inevitably concede a bit later on. If we lose, Lambert will still be there next game so does it matter? The answer is no.

I have reached the point where I don't really care any more. And its not even Xmas yet!

0-0 or 1-1
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on November 30, 2014, 02:27:43 PM
1-1 Benteke
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 30, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
Warnock will have his lot fired up for this. We don't have a good record there and I expect us to get beaten even with Benteke back. This might be the straw that final breaks the camel's back.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on November 30, 2014, 03:55:58 PM
Just hope Benteke comes back firing. Think I would start him and Weinmann, and have Gabby as a winger with either Cole or Grealish on the other side. ZOG hasn't been doing enough to warrent a place for me. 

It is a tough game, and Palace are getting back into decent form too.  I felt it would be a draw before the Burnley game, and I still think that now, sadly having not won at Turf Moor I don't think a draw is enough here.  1-1 Benteke for us of course.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on November 30, 2014, 04:15:33 PM
3-0 Palace. Thought we played some exceptional football. We go again.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on November 30, 2014, 04:19:10 PM
2-0 defeat.
We will go again for the Leicester game..................
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on November 30, 2014, 04:54:33 PM
I havent seen us win in 4 years. I doubt this will change so 2-0 Palace
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 30, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
I havent seen us win in 4 years. I doubt this will change so 2-0 Palace

I know things are bad, but we have won the occasional game here and there in the last 48 months.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on November 30, 2014, 05:00:49 PM
Grealish for Cole

Benteke for gabby

Not overly keen on Weimann but I think he's got three goals two assists , so would probably bring gabby on for 25 mins when people are tiring . Gabby always starts ok but he can't concentrate for a full game.

We need a point here . I'm going for 1 1.  But this is a much harder game than Burnley


Why would you swap Cole for grealish?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on November 30, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
Well this is my first live match in almost two years, and the last one we narrowly lost to Arsenal. Before that saw two draws during big alec's loan season.  So the home win over Liverpool at the end of 2010/11 was the last match I saw us win live.  Would love that to change Tuesday.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 30, 2014, 05:03:51 PM
I have no confidence in us being able to beat anyone at the moment. Palace to nil. Hopefully Lambert sacked sometime soon.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
Grealish for Cole

Benteke for gabby

Not overly keen on Weimann but I think he's got three goals two assists , so would probably bring gabby on for 25 mins when people are tiring . Gabby always starts ok but he can't concentrate for a full game.

We need a point here . I'm going for 1 1.  But this is a much harder game than Burnley


Why would you swap Cole for grealish?

Probably because it's highly unlikely he can do 2 matches in 4 days. He was absolutely fucked after about an hour. I don't mean slowly tiring, he did a run and that was it. Hands on hips, bending over, anything to try and get his wind back.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on November 30, 2014, 05:11:04 PM
Joe cole will probably be in traction for the week after yesterday's exertions. I would save him for the Leicester game a week today.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on November 30, 2014, 05:11:37 PM
Fair point. Probably a bit much to ask of him at this stage, which is frustrating, he could link up well with benteke
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on November 30, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
We'll score first through Benteke, sit back on our lead and allow Palace to win 2-1.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 30, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
On the plus side i'm confident we'll score. On the downside i'm not very confident we'll score more than one, and even less confident well keep a clean sheet. I dread of think of what our CB pairing will be if Clark is out.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on November 30, 2014, 05:27:01 PM
If the CB 's are all injured it will be -

Lowton.     Okore.    Hutton.     Cissoko.   
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on November 30, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
If the CB 's are all injured it will be -

Lowton.     Okore.    Hutton.     Cissoko.   
Shudder...
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on November 30, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
Swap Lowton and Hutton, hasn't Matt played in the centre before? Not sure if Hutton has.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
About time Benteke delivered a performance for us. Weimann probably has done enough to stay in the side. Gabby to miss out it seems.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on November 30, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
Aston Villa have not won away to Crystal Palace since the title winning season i.e. in 34 years during which the tie has been played 11 times. The league cup defeat 20 years ago did for Ron Atkinson. Going to south east London at night simply freaks out any coaches and players involved with naive Brummy Villa.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 30, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
I remember going there for I think (and I stand correct) Dwight Yorke's debut as sub in around 1990. We lost 1-0. I think Gary Thompson scored for them.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on November 30, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
2-0 them boo
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 30, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
Draw.
I honestly think we will draw all games up until the annual Manure debacle
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 30, 2014, 07:48:52 PM
Aston Villa have not won away to Crystal Palace since the title winning season i.e. in 34 years during which the tie has been played 11 times. The league cup defeat 20 years ago did for Ron Atkinson. Going to south east London at night simply freaks out any coaches and players involved with naive Brummy Villa.

He did get sacked after defeat to Wimbledon
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on November 30, 2014, 08:08:07 PM
I would bring Benteke back in and drop Weimann to the bench.  Although he tired in the 2nd half, I would start with Cole in the first half and take the game to them.  I would try and get Gabby to put everything into the first half and then replace him with Weimann and replace Cole early in the 2nd half with Richardson.  If this was a game plan from the start, they ought to be able to take the game to them again in second half.

If we are going to get anything out of the game, we have to play on the front foot and get out of this habit of conceding ground and letting the opposition have so much of the ball as the game goes on.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 30, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
Aston Villa have not won away to Crystal Palace since the title winning season i.e. in 34 years during which the tie has been played 11 times. The league cup defeat 20 years ago did for Ron Atkinson. Going to south east London at night simply freaks out any coaches and players involved with naive Brummy Villa.

He did get sacked after defeat to Wimbledon

Selhurst Park was the final game for both Atkinson and Brian Little, but both were against Wimbledon.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on November 30, 2014, 08:56:03 PM
Palace 0 Villa 4

You heard it here first
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 30, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
We'll lose as usual.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curlytailavfc on November 30, 2014, 10:15:21 PM
6-0 palace
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on November 30, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
Villa 6 palace 5. The media make Lambert manager of the year
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on November 30, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
Palace by 3-1, two late goals. A sending off somewhere along the line too, is my prediction.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on November 30, 2014, 11:12:40 PM
Going to be Lamberts big Ron moment. 3-0 up, 4-3 defeat.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 30, 2014, 11:33:33 PM
Our likely side is the below but I'm concerned at the lack of pace and width supporting Benteke. We are relying primarily on Hutton to get beyond the Palace defence which is far from ideal. On recent form Weimann probably deserves to start but Gabby on left and Bacuna on right would give us more pace anyway. Not sure Westwood has done enough to get dropped but we are very samey in midfield and not hurting teams despite lots of possession against similar sides away from home lately.

Definitely need Sanchez to start as Jedinak will mince us physically it was just Westwood and Cleverley. Benteke should be a lot fitter with three weeks extra training but by all accounts he was pretty poor for Belgium lately. If he throws out a performance like at QPR, I wouldnt be long getting him off after half time.

--------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
Weimann, Sanchez, Westwood, Cleverley
----------------Cole------------------
---------------Benteke

Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 30, 2014, 11:49:42 PM
Grealish for Cole

Benteke for gabby

Not overly keen on Weimann but I think he's got three goals two assists , so would probably bring gabby on for 25 mins when people are tiring . Gabby always starts ok but he can't concentrate for a full game.

We need a point here . I'm going for 1 1.  But this is a much harder game than Burnley


Why would you swap Cole for grealish?


Don't think he's up to two games in three days , unless he plays 30 mins
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on December 01, 2014, 07:47:24 AM
I remember going there for I think (and I stand correct) Dwight Yorke's debut as sub in around 1990. We lost 1-0. I think Gary Thompson scored for them.
I think I was at that game. A cold wet Saturday afternoon of misery. Thompson scored in the first couple of minutes. Unfortunately we arrived five minutes late after wandering around Norwood looking for the shitehole. The view from the away terrace was awful - there was a pylon stuck in the middle of it.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on December 01, 2014, 09:53:00 AM
Palace 0 Villa 4

You heard it here first

And you won't hear it again sadly

Can't see any way we will get anything here, perhaps a draw if we get the rub of the green and play ok
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: HolteEnder96 on December 01, 2014, 09:57:24 AM
Palace 2 - 0 Villa
Jedinak and Puncheon
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 01, 2014, 09:57:33 AM
An excellent defeat.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on December 01, 2014, 10:00:57 AM
An excellent defeat.

"I thought we were excellent" is this seasons "we go again".

Always there regardless.





Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on December 01, 2014, 10:03:45 AM
Villa to lead 1-0 until the 82nd minute, by which time all eleven of our players will have dropped back to the goal line to defend. Palace to equalize with a shot deflected of Weimann's backside.  Then they may or may not go on to get winner.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 01, 2014, 10:22:45 AM
Can't see us getting anything here.

I'd go with (if fit).

Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood         Cleverly
Cole
Weimann Benteke


Cole and Weimann linked up well together. Weimann is better centrally.

Benteke has to come back in.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on December 01, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
Can't see us getting anything here.

I'd go with (if fit).

Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood         Cleverly
Cole
Weimann Benteke


Cole and Weimann linked up well together. Weimann is better centrally.

Benteke has to come back in.

That looks good to me except I would start Grealish.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 01, 2014, 10:27:13 AM
Can't see us getting anything here.

I'd go with (if fit).

Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood         Cleverly
Cole
Weimann Benteke


Cole and Weimann linked up well together. Weimann is better centrally.

Benteke has to come back in.

I always think you should have a bit of pace in the attack but I'd go with that line up.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on December 01, 2014, 11:21:12 AM
I haven't seen us win live since 2010, it wont change tomorrow.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RussellC on December 01, 2014, 11:59:58 AM
With the team being so narrow at present, one change that I would make for Tomorrow is to bring Richardson in at left-back instead of Cissokho. Cissokho's solid enough defensively, but doesn't offer much going forward. I imagine that most of palace's attacking play will be channeled through Bolasie down the right, so reckon we could use Richardson as an attacking outlet. It would also give us a set-piece threat that's missing without N'Zogbia in the side.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on December 01, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
were going to hammer them NIL-NIL forever the hopeful.

ill get my coat.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 01, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
With the team being so narrow at present, one change that I would make for Tomorrow is to bring Richardson in at left-back instead of Cissokho. Cissokho's solid enough defensively, but doesn't offer much going forward. I imagine that most of palace's attacking play will be channeled through Bolasie down the right, so reckon we could use Richardson as an attacking outlet. It would also give us a set-piece threat that's missing without N'Zogbia in the side.

I understand the idea trying to limit Bolaise but with the defence as stretched as it it injury wise, I'd leave the back four in place for now.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 01, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
I'm quite glad I missed the Burnley match entirely. I'm not sure I can handle 2 matches in the space of a few days. One a week is my limit at the moment.
So I'll be watching (probably from behind the couch).

I think we'll lose this one. We're not fit enough to handle two games so quickly.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on December 01, 2014, 12:12:41 PM
Can't see us getting anything here.

I'd go with (if fit).

Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood         Cleverly
Cole
Weimann Benteke


Cole and Weimann linked up well together. Weimann is better centrally.

Benteke has to come back in.

I always think you should have a bit of pace in the attack but I'd go with that line up.

I would as well. But Lambert might have other ideas unfortunately.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RussellC on December 01, 2014, 12:14:21 PM
With the team being so narrow at present, one change that I would make for Tomorrow is to bring Richardson in at left-back instead of Cissokho. Cissokho's solid enough defensively, but doesn't offer much going forward. I imagine that most of palace's attacking play will be channeled through Bolasie down the right, so reckon we could use Richardson as an attacking outlet. It would also give us a set-piece threat that's missing without N'Zogbia in the side.

I understand the idea trying to limit Bolaise but with the defence as stretched as it it injury wise, I'd leave the back four in place for now.

You're probably right, although I would be tempted to throw Senderos or Vlaar back in if either was fit.

Going forward, I think I'd be tempted to leave Gabby in. With Benteke back, palace will have to use Hangeland to combat his height. He has the turning speed of a small planet, so Gabby could find some joy playing off Benteke, in and behind Palace's back 4. I'd also start Cole again, to try and exploit the space that will inevitably appear if Gabby does play alongside Benteke.  That would give us Weimann as an option for when Cole does tire. Probably in about the 24th minute.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 01, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Is this game on sky or BT ?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
With the team being so narrow at present, one change that I would make for Tomorrow is to bring Richardson in at left-back instead of Cissokho. Cissokho's solid enough defensively, but doesn't offer much going forward. I imagine that most of palace's attacking play will be channeled through Bolasie down the right, so reckon we could use Richardson as an attacking outlet.

The most annoying thing about Cissokho is he does get forward attacking, down the wing plenty of times but he NEVER bloody crosses the ball. I wonder if he gets a bonus every time he reaches the byline? N'Zogbia is the same, never getting an early ball into the box, it always has to go back to the full back who even then doesn't cross it, prefering to knock it inside.

It makes little difference if we have Benteke or Gabby playing up front if we're not giving them an opportunity to get on the end of something. We really make it easy for teams to defend against us.

Hopefully we'll start the game with the same confidence we showed against Burnley and use that pressure to actually create chances. Anything like the second half showing and we'll get slaughtered.

1-1 with Villa going behind, hanging on for our lives but scoring in the late in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on December 01, 2014, 12:29:32 PM
Is this game on sky or BT ?

Negatory.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 01, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
Is this game on sky or BT ?

Negatory.
Phew.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on December 01, 2014, 01:08:16 PM
The first forecast i saw on this thread thinks we are going to win 3-1 .Maybe i need some of what he is on ,as i can;t see us scoring three by christmas Them 1 Us 0
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 01, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
Genuinely think we'll win this 1-0. Another game where take an early 1-0 lead, but with Benteke back in the team to aid ball retention we'll stand firm and hold out for the victory.

Good luck Lambert, hope you can get us a result tomorrow.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 01, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
The first forecast i saw on this thread thinks we are going to win 3-1 .Maybe i need some of what he is on ,as i can;t see us scoring three by christmas Them 1 Us 0

Palace are like Burnley, a Championship side currently on loan at the big league, with a manager even less impressive than our own.

With Benteke back, we will have a lot more cutting edge if we adopt the same approach as Saturday.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on December 01, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
I think we'll play well for the first 15/20 minutes, get a 1-0 lead, then get deeper and deeper until we're defending from our own 18 yard line; then low and behold we'll concede two goals in the last 10 minutes and end up with a 2-1 defeat. Lambert will say: ''we were excellent, I can't fault the lads at all - we go again''
Does this sound familiar??
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 01, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
With the team being so narrow at present, one change that I would make for Tomorrow is to bring Richardson in at left-back instead of Cissokho. Cissokho's solid enough defensively, but doesn't offer much going forward. I imagine that most of palace's attacking play will be channeled through Bolasie down the right, so reckon we could use Richardson as an attacking outlet. It would also give us a set-piece threat that's missing without N'Zogbia in the side.

All the more reason for Cissokho to start imo. Certainly Richardson coming into that position as a wing back or left back should be considered if we need to chase the game. With our narrow midfield, our full backs really need to provide width and pace out wide. Our duo arent really suited to that role despite Hutton's good form. Richardson would at least give us another outlet but his form has been dire imo in his recent sub appearances.

Along with the concerns of Cole starting games in quick succession, you would have to worry about Okore also. His mistake at Burnley cost us two points but it was a real tired mistake. A third game in eight days for a guy just back from 14 months out is worrying and the chance of picking up another injury is surely increased. Other than that Ive been impressed his partnership with Clark over the past two games. If they were both fine to play Id be leaving the likes of Vlaar, Baker and Senderos on the bench if they are back. That trio are bound to be pretty rusty in any case.

Sanchez too isnt going to last 90mins so Lambert really needs to be proactive with his substitutions. If we were a bit more secure, this is probably the ideal time to rotate the starting line up a bit but cant see it happening tomorrow. Bacuna, Grealish, Gabby/Weimann, Robinson, Richardson are all decent options.

Its going to be a real dogfight at Selhurst Park, 1-1 again the likely scoreline Im afraid.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WestleyArmsAV on December 01, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
1-3 Benteke x 2, Gabby

Another good day out, lets back the team.

UTV
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 01, 2014, 03:43:05 PM
Is there a more difficult ground to get to  ? As for parking the car, the palace website is really helpful -

Car Parking
Most streets around the ground are either designated as residents only parking on matchdays or are pay and display with a four hour limit, so please take note of any street signs advising of parking restrictions.

The Sainsburys car park adjacent to the ground also has parking restrictions on a matchday allowing cars to stay for a maximum of four and a half hours. Anyone exceeding this time limit will be fined.

Please note that the traffic is busy around the stadium on Saturdays so make sure you allow yourself some extra time to make the journey.

Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 01, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
we'll win the game if we commit ourselves to winning the game. Sounds completely obvious but we haven't done that in a long time. And I don't mean for a 20 minute spell either. I mean by having a proper game plan where we are able to sustain our tempo throughout 90 minutes. We don't have to be constantly pressing because there will be spells for the opposition where they press us back, but the majority of the game we should be on the front foot. Given that this won't happen I expect us to be pushed back more and more until eventually we concede. It will be a nice if we have managed a goal or two by that stage, but with 7 seven scored the stats are hardly in our favour.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 01, 2014, 04:11:57 PM
We must man mark Barry Bannan .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 01, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
I would take another draw right now but can't see it. 2-0 to them
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on December 01, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
Can't see us getting anything here.

I'd go with (if fit).

Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood         Cleverly
Cole
Weimann Benteke


Cole and Weimann linked up well together. Weimann is better centrally.

Benteke has to come back in.

To be honest, that is the formation I would like to see us at least try.  We've got natural changes in that formation, with Richardson and Grealish coming on for Cole and Sanchez when they tire, and Agbonlahor to replace Weimann if necessary. 
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on December 01, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
We must man mark Barry Bannan .

Shouldn't be too hard as he'll more than likely be sat on the bench or in the stand won't he?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 01, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
Is there a more difficult ground to get to  ? As for parking the car, the palace website is really helpful -



Park in Croydon and walk. That's what I did last season and it was far easier than trying to park near the ground
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 01, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
We must man mark Barry Bannan .

Shouldn't be too hard as he'll more than likely be sat on the bench or in the stand won't he?

I'd forgotten that the Scottish Messi was still at Palace
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MONCABA on December 01, 2014, 06:23:33 PM
My heart says a 3-0 victory.  My head says a 0-0 stalemate .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 01, 2014, 06:48:32 PM
Is there a more difficult ground to get to  ? As for parking the car, the palace website is really helpful -

Car Parking
Most streets around the ground are either designated as residents only parking on matchdays or are pay and display with a four hour limit, so please take note of any street signs advising of parking restrictions.

The Sainsburys car park adjacent to the ground also has parking restrictions on a matchday allowing cars to stay for a maximum of four and a half hours. Anyone exceeding this time limit will be fined.

Please note that the traffic is busy around the stadium on Saturdays so make sure you allow yourself some extra time to make the journey.




I'd just park in martyn Smiths front room.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on December 01, 2014, 06:55:56 PM
I will go for a 1-4 win Benteke back with a bang.
Oh well I can dream.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 01, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
Guzan

Hutton
Okore
Clark
Cissokho

Sanchez
Cleverley

Gabby
Cole
Bacuna

Benteke.

4-2-3-1

Grealish and Westwood to replace Cole and Sanchez when they tire.

Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 01, 2014, 08:44:29 PM
I've just watched the Burnley highlights. I thought we looked good going fwds. Couldn't quite tell the formation - was it a diamond with Cole behind the front two?

My big reservation would be the number of chances conceded from balls thrown into the box. On the basis of that, I thought we were lucky to get a point. They could have scored a fair few

I'm assuming Cole isn't ready to play three in a week, given that he was taken off despite being our best player. But it would be a shame to lose what he clearly brought to the side. On balance, I think I'd prioritise him to unlock Leicester at home

Benteke for Cole then the only change as long as Clark is fit

I actually fancied us to get a win here. But having just seen the chances Burnley created I can envisage exactly the same sort of game and a 2-1 defeat
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on December 01, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
Fuck it, the run's got to end sometime.  2-1 us.  Gabby and Weimann.  Don't know for them; don't care.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on December 01, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
Another draw for the mighty Villa 1-1, we will score first half with yet another late heartbreaking equaliser,  bigger worry for me is the game that follows as if Leicester lose to Liverpool tomorrow they will inevitably get the win they desperately need at Villa park a week on Sunday.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 01, 2014, 09:30:08 PM
Oh no.

So soon?

Palace win for me. 3.1.

Our squad has no depth and we have the most tactically inept manager in our living memory. Food and drink for the old warhorse Warnock.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 01, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
Just over 2300 sold for tomorrow. Great support.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on December 01, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
We're doomed - 'Lawro' predicts we'll win.

Had to laugh at guest pundit Steph Houghton's prediction: "I don't think it will be a very exciting game. 0-0"
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 01, 2014, 10:07:58 PM
Just over 2300 sold for tomorrow. Great support.
Absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 01, 2014, 10:29:13 PM
Is there a more difficult ground to get to  ? As for parking the car, the palace website is really helpful -

Car Parking
Most streets around the ground are either designated as residents only parking on matchdays or are pay and display with a four hour limit, so please take note of any street signs advising of parking restrictions.

The Sainsburys car park adjacent to the ground also has parking restrictions on a matchday allowing cars to stay for a maximum of four and a half hours. Anyone exceeding this time limit will be fined.

Please note that the traffic is busy around the stadium on Saturdays so make sure you allow yourself some extra time to make the journey.




I'd just park in martyn Smiths front room.

Be my guest :-). Actually parking is unrestricted on the road I live on, Brampton Road CR0 6JN, and the roads around there, and is only a 20-25 minute walk from the ground.

Speaking of which, where is everyone drinking before the game? I have a ticket for the home end (my Palace supporting mate and his g/f have split and she's no longer interested in her season ticket), but would like to meet up with Villa fans before the game. I'm not sure what the away pubs are there though...
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 01, 2014, 10:34:35 PM
We're doomed - 'Lawro' predicts we'll win.

Had to laugh at guest pundit Steph Houghton's prediction: "I don't think it will be a very exciting game. 0-0"

She should be at home washing the dishes and cooking her husband's dinner...
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: NickyF on December 01, 2014, 10:38:49 PM
last year there was lots of Villa in The Flora Sands opposite Thornton Heath train station. Shitole but lots of fun.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 01, 2014, 10:49:56 PM
                  Guzan


Hutton   Okore  Clark  Cissoko

   Sanchez  Westwood

Grealish Cleverly Gabby

         Benteke

Would love Cole but not worth the risk of longer term fitness/injury
Bacuna Robinson Wemann to keep pressing if anyone fades 0-2 Hutton Cleverley .........
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on December 01, 2014, 11:09:25 PM
Up this morning and hoping for a miracle in Fornton Heaf .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on December 02, 2014, 03:44:55 AM
4-1 loss. Not usually this pessimistic, think Warnock will galvanise them.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aev on December 02, 2014, 07:28:36 AM
Is there a more difficult ground to get to  ? As for parking the car, the palace website is really helpful -

Car Parking
Most streets around the ground are either designated as residents only parking on matchdays or are pay and display with a four hour limit, so please take note of any street signs advising of parking restrictions.

The Sainsburys car park adjacent to the ground also has parking restrictions on a matchday allowing cars to stay for a maximum of four and a half hours. Anyone exceeding this time limit will be fined.

Please note that the traffic is busy around the stadium on Saturdays so make sure you allow yourself some extra time to make the journey.




I'd just park in martyn Smiths front room.

Be my guest :-). Actually parking is unrestricted on the road I live on, Brampton Road CR0 6JN, and the roads around there, and is only a 20-25 minute walk from the ground.

Speaking of which, where is everyone drinking before the game? I have a ticket for the home end (my Palace supporting mate and his g/f have split and she's no longer interested in her season ticket), but would like to meet up with Villa fans before the game. I'm not sure what the away pubs are there though...

There is a Wetherspoons pub on Norwood High Street that is ok for away fans.

Norwood Junction is 11 mins from London Bridge.

Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2014, 08:08:47 AM
Just over 2300 sold for tomorrow. Great support.

That's superb for a Tuesday night down there.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 02, 2014, 08:10:54 AM
Just over 2300 sold for tomorrow. Great support.

That's superb for a Tuesday night down there.

Bless you all - about the only thing to be proud about at the moment
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on December 02, 2014, 09:04:24 AM
He will go with:

Guzan

9 assorted deckchairs

Benteke
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on December 02, 2014, 09:12:13 AM
Great support and far more than Lambert deserves. Another thing I do like about the Bundesliga is the bond the teams have with their fans. That is certainly something lost from the Premier League imo.

With regards to tonight and the next few fixtures Lambert will be praying Benteke bails him out yet again.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on December 02, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
Clearly not a pressing need with the amount of entertainment gained from the games being minimal, but are any pubs showing the games in the Sutton area anymore? The Royal and The Three Tuns have shut up shop on them. Probably because they're horrendously shite.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on December 02, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Just over 2300 sold for tomorrow. Great support.

That's superb for a Tuesday night down there.

Bless you all - about the only thing to be proud about at the moment

Couldn't agree more, hope the team give all of you something to cheer. Come on the Villa boys!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on December 02, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
From The Grauniad's Premier League: 10 things to look out for in the midweek fixtures: (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/dec/02/premier-league-ten-things-to-look-out-for-midweek)

Quote
4) Can Palace grab some breathing space?

The first week of December is far too early to talk about relegation six-pointers but with Crystal Palace and Aston Villa
separated only by goal difference, the winners of the game in south London can at least secure some breathing space before
the busy Christmas period. It was a similar story in the corresponding fixture back in March when a Palace win virtually
assured safety for Tony Pulis and left Paul Lambert nervously looking over his shoulder.

The Eagles are once again in good form having recovered from a shaky run under Neil Warnock, while Villa have at least stopped
the rot with three straight draws. Those of a certain vintage may recall that it is now more than 30 years since a goal from
Gary Shaw secured their last win at Selhurst Park on their way to the First Division title in 1980-81. How times have changed. EA
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on December 02, 2014, 09:59:14 AM
Villa win. An early Christmas present. Every season there seems to be a result that lifts spirits temporarily.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on December 02, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
Clearly not a pressing need with the amount of entertainment gained from the games being minimal, but are any pubs showing the games in the Sutton area anymore? The Royal and The Three Tuns have shut up shop on them. Probably because they're horrendously shite.

The Boot used show the games? Worse case the Anchor in Streethay is run by a Villa fan.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 02, 2014, 10:15:40 AM
He will go with:

Guzan

9 assorted deckchairs

Benteke
Getting a lot of calls from offended deckchairs .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 02, 2014, 10:36:28 AM
Gone for an optimistic, yet at the same time ultimately unsatisfactory draw. 1-1.

Fair play to everyone who makes the trip.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on December 02, 2014, 10:39:35 AM
The turn out and atmosphere from the Villa supporters tonight will be interesting. I am sure most who are there will vocally support the team reguardless of the performance.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: German James on December 02, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
I want us to win. I always want us to win. But, if we lose, Lambert will go... A 0-0 draw with them having 89% of the possession and missing a penalty it is, then!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 02, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
The turn out and atmosphere from the Villa supporters tonight will be interesting. I am sure most who are there will vocally support the team reguardless of the performance.
We're setting off at 2.30 'cos it's such a mare to get to/park etc.
No doubt we'll start with our usual gusto as regards supporting the players...can see it getting nasty towards Mr Lambert though if things go tits up!

UTV!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on December 02, 2014, 10:55:31 AM
hideous place to go...no win there in donkeys years...a terrible run of results....they're on form....

therefore.......a 2 nil Villa win, Benteke and Westwood :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on December 02, 2014, 11:06:32 AM
hideous place to go...no win there in donkeys years...a terrible run of results....they're on form....

therefore.......a 2 nil Villa win, Benteke and Westwood :)

UTV
The Doc

They have had a couple of good results, don't know if that means they are in form.  I always thought this would be a tough match anyway.  One important thing is that we match their intensty and get a grip on the midfield early.  I think we need to be postive from the off, but also need to make sure that we don't make sloppy errors and keep things tight at the back.  Too much to ask for?  I think if Benteke is up for it he could be a key vocal point, and could be a good player for others to build off.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ingatea on December 02, 2014, 11:12:58 AM
We're going to win I can feel it, the Beast is back.
2-0, yep we are going to score 2 goals AND keep a clean sheet!!!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 02, 2014, 11:18:53 AM
M1 south really bad earlier from jct 12 down . You really need to allow plenty of time if you are going .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on December 02, 2014, 11:19:42 AM
We're going to win I can feel it, the Beast is back.
2-0, yep we are going to score 2 goals AND keep a clean sheet!!!

I'll have a half of what he's drinking.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on December 02, 2014, 11:31:19 AM
We're going to win I can feel it, the Beast is back.
2-0, yep we are going to score 2 goals AND keep a clean sheet!!!

I'll have a half of what he's drinking.

don't be a damp squib Timbert...chuck a lump on the Villa two nil :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on December 02, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
We're going to win I can feel it, the Beast is back.
2-0, yep we are going to score 2 goals AND keep a clean sheet!!!

I'll have a half of what he's drinking.

don't be a damp squib Timbert...chuck a lump on the Villa two nil :)


You are all on something!

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bully2345 on December 02, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
We will win tonight
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 02, 2014, 12:31:46 PM
I think we'll lose. But then again you just never know where the turnaround starts. It should have been Spurs and could have been had Benteke not been sent off. It could have been Spurs but for a late goal. It could have been Burnley but for a late goal. You only need one of those results to come through sometimes for things to start to turn around. Who knows, it could be tonight. I hope so.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 02, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
I keep forgetting we're playing tonight. Then it all comes back to me and I get miserable again.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 02, 2014, 01:10:00 PM
3-1 Palarse
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 02, 2014, 01:12:12 PM
Clark will have a late fitness test tonight so god help us if he's out, possibly seeing Okore and Hutton at Centre half with Lowton out wide?
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 02, 2014, 01:15:38 PM
Dave Swindlehurst and Vince Hilaire to bring the points home for the Team Of The 80s.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 02, 2014, 01:32:57 PM
Clark will have a late fitness test tonight so god help us if he's out, possibly seeing Okore and Hutton at Centre half with Lowton out wide?

Maybe Cissokho could go in centre half and Richardson on left? Would much prefer that to Lowton coming in and shifting Okore to the left side. Guess Herd might be an option again to come in. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel at centre half if Clark is out.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 02, 2014, 01:48:14 PM
God more injuries. To be honest I think of all the potential CH backups, Herd is probably the lesser of the evils. Lowtons too flimsy. Hutton looks the part but apparently he once filled in there for Scotland and had a mare. Cissokho I'm not sure about, but his form in general has been poor recently.

I don't fancy our chances in this. They're a very hard working side. I think they will show a lot of desire in the latter stages of the game, where persistently we tend to fall apart, so short of being 2-3 goals up, we'll probably cock it up. Will Lamberk get fired? Nope. We're playing the waiting game for him to walk. To be honest I doesn't look like he's remotely enjoying the job anymore. It almost seems like he's just waiting to take the bullet so he can walk off with a payoff. He will want to be pushed out though. But even so, it's tough for us but this must be bloody hard for Lambert. As much as I don't rate him as Villa manager. He's an okay bloke and you can tell the job is grinding him down a lot.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 02, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
God more injuries. To be honest I think of all the potential CH backups, Herd is probably the lesser of the evils. Lowtons too flimsy. Hutton looks the part but apparently he once filled in there for Scotland and had a mare. Cissokho I'm not sure about, but his form in general has been poor recently.

I don't fancy our chances in this. They're a very hard working side. I think they will show a lot of desire in the latter stages of the game, where persistently we tend to fall apart, so short of being 2-3 goals up, we'll probably cock it up. Will Lamberk get fired? Nope. We're playing the waiting game for him to walk. To be honest I doesn't look like he's remotely enjoying the job anymore. It almost seems like he's just waiting to take the bullet so he can walk off with a payoff. He will want to be pushed out though. But even so, it's tough for us but this must be bloody hard for Lambert. As much as I don't rate him as Villa manager. He's an okay bloke and you can tell the job is grinding him down a lot.
Thought exactly this last season supertom...but he's still here and things have got no better...surely it can only be a matter of time, so if he's gonna go, better sooner than later.

Or is Mr Fox doing a bit of cunning negotiating in the background?

Always optimistic of a turnaround with every game that comes along, but equally dreading tonight's game.
Just packed a tin helmet!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 02, 2014, 02:56:31 PM
Even with good sides on our visits to the Palace we haven't done at all well.  I'm expecting nothing out of this one.  Having said that, I thought we would get zilch out of the Southampton game and we did. So, with the beast back here's hoping.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on December 02, 2014, 02:58:06 PM
I fuckin hate Selhurst Park, shit to get to, shit when you're there and I've been 7 times and only ever seen the Villa lose.  That said their atmosphere now is pretty good.
There's only one result happening tonight, and it's not going to make any of us any happier!!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 02, 2014, 03:00:00 PM
There's only one result happening tonight, and it's not going to make any of us any happier!!

Are things so bad we're not even going to be happy when we win anymore?

;)
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 02, 2014, 03:06:21 PM
I'd genuinely forgotten that we were playing tonight, until about half an hour ago.

No wonder I was feeling quite cheerful.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on December 02, 2014, 03:19:01 PM
Clearly not a pressing need with the amount of entertainment gained from the games being minimal, but are any pubs showing the games in the Sutton area anymore? The Royal and The Three Tuns have shut up shop on them. Probably because they're horrendously shite.

PM sent
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on December 02, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
I fuckin hate Selhurst Park, shit to get to, shit when you're there and I've been 7 times and only ever seen the Villa lose.  That said their atmosphere now is pretty good.
There's only one result happening tonight, and it's not going to make any of us any happier!!

Happy Christmas!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 02, 2014, 04:09:52 PM
I'm genuinely really excited to watch this tonight, I always feel like I get the love for Villa back when times get really tough like this. All the discussion and emotion lets me know that I care.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on December 02, 2014, 04:40:29 PM
Its going to be cold and we're going to be shite. maybe the odd perked up moment but from the first whistle I'll be hoping the referee blows the final one. That Villa are playing on my mnaor and I know quite a few palace fans makes this doubly difficult to take if we perform as per usual.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'Rexy on December 02, 2014, 04:52:55 PM
Its a shitty night. Rain. Wind. Cold. We better be up for this or its going to be grim.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 02, 2014, 05:17:54 PM
What I'd give to see the beast rip them a hideous new arsehole. Come on Benteke, do the business for us.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 02, 2014, 05:19:25 PM
I can see Jedinak and Ledley plonking themselves in front of their back four. They could easily boss the game. They're hard and streetwise. Sanchez is too sloppy and Cleverley and Westwood are too soft - if they get hold of the midfield they'll win the game. Sadly - I think that's exactly what will happen.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 02, 2014, 05:22:24 PM
I'd go with

Guzan

Hutton
Clark
Okore
Cissokho

Sanchez
Westwood
Cleverley

Cole

Benteke
Agbonlahor

a midfield diamond sort of formation. We'll need Gabby to use his pace, as I doubt Dann and Hangelaand will be able to handle that - but if we lump balls up to Benteke in the air all night they'll love that.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 02, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
I can see Jedinak and Ledley plonking themselves in front of their back four. They could easily boss the game. They're hard and streetwise. Sanchez is too sloppy and Cleverley and Westwood are too soft - if they get hold of the midfield they'll win the game. Sadly - I think that's exactly what will happen.
I think so to.
I think we'll be purely reliant on a moment of magic from Benteke, or possibly Cole (if he manages another 45 minutes today).
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 02, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
I'm genuinely really excited to watch this tonight, I always feel like I get the love for Villa back when times get really tough like this. All the discussion and emotion lets me know that I care.
Same here. Despite how shit it is villa remain and always will very important in my life .
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa_cads on December 02, 2014, 06:01:51 PM
Its a shitty night. Rain. Wind. Cold. We better be up for this or its going to be grim.

And worst of all I've got the lurgy, I've had a shirty day at work, a chap on the full train from Woking is asleep on two seats and my coffee is too acrid... Still up for tonight though, UTV!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on December 02, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
I'm genuinely really excited to watch this tonight, I always feel like I get the love for Villa back when times get really tough like this. All the discussion and emotion lets me know that I care.
Same here. Despite how shit it is villa remain and always will very important in my life .

Amen brother
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on December 02, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
I wonder where we will appear on MOTD, got the feeling it won't be a classic.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on December 02, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Right quick trip to Costa before over to London Bridge. One thing about working in London is how easy the trip to Palace is!!
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 02, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
I'd go with

Guzan

Hutton
Clark
Okore
Cissokho

Sanchez
Westwood
Cleverley

Cole

Benteke
Agbonlahor

a midfield diamond sort of formation. We'll need Gabby to use his pace, as I doubt Dann and Hangelaand will be able to handle that - but if we lump balls up to Benteke in the air all night they'll love that.

Whenever Gabby and Benteke play up top together they get in each others way, like at QPR. If Gabby plays tonight he needs to be on the left I reckon. Think we need to exploit the likes of Hangeland more by getting the ball quickly into the feet of Cole, Grealish, Cleverley outside the box and force him to come out a bit. He cant turn so the kind of pass that Cole put Gabby through against Burnley is our best chance of creating a goal tonight.

Thought Cleverley put in a good shift in the second half at Burnley, maybe things will go his way tonight. Midfield will be a war zone but we have better footballers so need to do what we did pretty well at QPR and Burnley and keep the ball. The likes of Ledley and McArthur arent athletes. Sanchez positionally has a lot to learn which is why tonight I would instruct him to be no more than 10 metres ahead of our centre backs at any time tonight and to never get ahead of the ball. We look vulnerable on the counterattack because he pushes too far forward and Westwood offers powder puff resistance.

Crystal Palace are on a decent run but there is a reason why we are only behind them on goal difference i.e. they are bang average too. Think it will be a good game tonight.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Gayle might be out which is good news.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2014, 07:01:46 PM
Benteke is in for Sanchez. Herd on the bench.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 02, 2014, 07:03:17 PM
VILLA: Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Westwood, Cleverley, Cole, Weimann, Agbonlahor (c), Benteke. Subs: Given, Herd, Richardson, Sanchez, N’Zogbia, Lowton, Grealish.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 02, 2014, 07:03:59 PM
Match Thread needed.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard on December 02, 2014, 07:04:12 PM
Blimey am thinking the midfield looks a bit light so we must be going all out attack
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on December 02, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
Let's see him make a potential 4-2-4 formation in to a 4-5-1
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on December 02, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
SUBS - #AVFC (v @CPFC): Given, Herd, Richardson, Sanchez, N’Zogbia, Lowton, Grealish.
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STARTING XI - #AVFC (v @CPFC): Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Westwood, Cleverley, Cole, Weimann, Agbonlahor (c), Benteke.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 02, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
It's a positive line up. Very lightweight in midfield though.

You look at that line up and would think logically that a 4-2-3-1 is best. Lambert will probably opt for the 4-3-3, which might be a problem for Cole in terms of picking up space.

Glad Clark is fit to play.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 02, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Hate that formation now.
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard on December 02, 2014, 07:06:59 PM
4 2 3 1 hopefully
Title: Re: Palace v Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa_cads on December 02, 2014, 07:09:52 PM
Well, it's certainly more positive,  like that.
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