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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Chipsticks on October 17, 2014, 12:23:39 AM
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From SSN:
Paul Lambert says Fabian Delph might need surgery on a shoulder injury suffered in training.
Delph fell awkwardly on Tuesday, two days after starting England's European Qualifier in Estonia, and Lambert initially described him as a doubt for Saturday's game against Everton.
But pressed on the severity of the injury, the Villa boss admitted his player might have dislocated the joint.
He said: "Yes, (it's) probably that. Whether it is enough to allow it to rest for a couple of weeks I don't know or if there is more to it. I am pretty sure the medical people will discuss that."
Asked if an operation was a possiblity he said: "That's the thing, we don't know. That will be left up to the medical people to see what is the best procedure for it.
"It was an awkward fall. No-one was near him. He fell on his shoulder. It is not always straightforward so we need to go and get it checked out."
Surgery would place in doubt Delph's availability for next month's European Qualifier against Slovenia, which is followed by a friendly against Scotland.
Nothing said for certain, but could really do without him going off for surgery.
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Another training ground incident, what the hell is going on at B.H
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A key Villa player injured? Well there's a rarity.
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Getting to used to it by now.
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Arsecandles.
Time for Sanchez to step up.
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We're cursed I tell thee, damn cursed.
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Bugger. Not good news. Time for Cleverly to dominate the midfield and fill the gap.
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If it's a bad one,I guess that knackers our chances if selling in Jan. If he doesn't sign a new contract, of course.
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*sigh*
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Well look on the positive side. here goes...
We know what he brings and how important he is but now we can look to the rest to see if they bring more of a threat. Sometimes it just works like that. I'd wouldn't stick with the diamond but use Richardson in the Delph role. Still no place for Sanchez. Weimann and Gabby in the wider rpositions with Benteke up top.
Good God.
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Bloody hell, that's terrible news.
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I know every team gets injuries but feck me!
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Just as we get Benteke back as well, just our luck.
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The bright side:
1) better this season than last. At least we have options to work around it (Cleveley, Sanchez, Richardson)
2) maybe this might remind him that he's been brittle in the past and it might be better to get signed onto a decent contract now rather than waiting to see what happens in three/six months time.
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As much as we will miss him, and if he needs surgery he could well be out until February, that at least we have options.
This time last season it would have been Herd or KEA, but with the three you mentioned, we do at least have options.
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The bright side:
1) better this season than last. At least we have options to work around it (Cleveley, Sanchez, Richardson)
2) maybe this might remind him that he's been brittle in the past and it might be better to get signed onto a decent contract now rather than waiting to see what happens in three/six months time.
True, but on the contract side we don't know we've actually given him a decent contract to sign yet.
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The bright side:
1) better this season than last. At least we have options to work around it (Cleverley, Sanchez, Richardson)
Him or us? This exact time last season we had 10 points, we'll probably end up having a point more going into November.
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Bollocks.
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Richard Keys reporting on Twitter he needs surgery and will be out for three months
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If he is out for a couple of months it will be up to Sanchez to show he was worth buying and Cleverley to step up and dominate more than he has shown so far. Hopefully Delph,s injury may not be as bad as we fear but knowing our luck it might be!
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Bollocks. I'm glad in part that we've come through that shitty run of fixtures. We've got games which will be far kinder to throw Sanchez into and hopefully he can begin adapting to this league.
We also have to change the way we play in midfield. Without Delph's dynamism and drive, the others now have to step up, and perhaps they might take a more cultured approach.
I just wonder whether we should recall Gardner? If it's still a little too early for Sanchez, then we'll be short of options, particularly once we get up to the Crimbo fixture pile up.
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I just wonder whether we should recall Gardner? If it's still a little too early for Sanchez, then we'll be short of options, particularly once we get up to the Crimbo fixture pile up.
I think he'd be better off playing well for Brighton, as I still don't think he'll really feature at the moment.
Cleverley, Westwood, Sanchez, Richardson and Bacuna should be sufficient for now.
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I just wonder whether we should recall Gardner? If it's still a little too early for Sanchez, then we'll be short of options, particularly once we get up to the Crimbo fixture pile up.
I think he'd be better off playing well for Brighton, as I still don't think he'll really feature at the moment.
Cleverley, Westwood, Sanchez, Richardson and Bacuna should be sufficient for now.
We'd have Herd back in a month I suppose. If the worst came to it.
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If we're relying on Herd in a month then, yes, the worst has come of it.
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If we're relying on Herd in a month then, yes, the worst has come of it.
Yes...mind you the much maligned Nathan Baker has done surprisingly well this season.
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We could go 4-3-1-2, with Grealish or N'zogbia in a free role just in front of the midfield. They'd both win us plenty of free kicks, Grealish especially.
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That's bad news we will miss him we need people to step up in his place now.
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Sanchez time.
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Richard Keys reporting on Twitter he needs surgery and will be out for three months
Fucking hell, how is the world going to cope without Keys tweeting for the next three months?
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No doubt rubbing his werewolf like paws at the thought, the Cov supporting shitehawk.
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Richard Keys reporting on Twitter he needs surgery and will be out for three months
Fucking hell, how is the world going to cope without Keys tweeting for the next three months?
It must be chronic hair matting.
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If Aston Villa didn't have bad luck, we wouldn't have any luck at all.
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Another training ground incident, what the hell is going on at B.H
It was with Ingerland ...
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We could go 4-3-1-2, with Grealish or N'zogbia in a free role just in front of the midfield. They'd both win us plenty of free kicks, Grealish especially.
Certainly agree Grealish should not be stuck out on the wing - he's ineffectual out there. He need to be involved in the thick of it.
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Could be a good break for Bacuna to show us what he can do.
I won't be holding my breath, however....
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2 months out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11170244/Fabian-Delph-to-have-shoulder-operation-which-will-keep-him-out-of-action-for-at-least-two-months.html
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Could be a good break for Bacuna to show us what he can do.
I won't be holding my breath, however....
The thing about Bacuna is, sometimes he looks good. Other times he looks like a toddler who's had a football rolled at his feet for the first time.
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We appear to have turned into Arsenal. Not in the Champions League-bothering, FA Cup-winning sense; more the "physio on overtime" sense.
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Another training ground incident, what the hell is going on at B.H
It was with Ingerland ...
"Delph took a fall in training and has injured his shoulder at Villa’s Bodymoor Heath complex."
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Wouldn't it be lovely to have key players who get injured and miss a game, maybe two, rather than fuckin months!!
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At least we have Benteke back now, but it's still really disappointing news.
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Another training ground incident, what the hell is going on at B.H
It was with Ingerland ...
"Delph took a fall in training and has injured his shoulder at Villa’s Bodymoor Heath complex."
Oh, okay; thought I'd read otherwise, but there you go.
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Fantastic...our three key players have all been crocked this season and we're only halfway through October.
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It's a pisser of an injury this one. Let's hope the damage isn't too bad and he can recover quickly.
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Another training ground incident, what the hell is going on at B.H
It was with Ingerland ...
"Delph took a fall in training and has injured his shoulder at Villa’s Bodymoor Heath complex."
To allow a fall at BH is silly though, we need to have preventive measures to stop such dangerous and reckless goings on.
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I've dislocated my shoulder 3 times and it isn't great especially when you consider the physical stress it will get in midfield. Hasn't he had a shoulder problem before?
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a dislocated shoulder ended my rugby career, so I can empathise as well.
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Don't these injuries tend to repeat themselves also? Not sure if its because of the higher level of impact and intensity at the top of the game.
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Don't these injuries tend to repeat themselves also? Not sure if its because of the higher level of impact and intensity at the top of the game.
I dislocated my knee when I was about 16 and it recurred loads and have had to have an operation in my thirties. Not sure how a shoulder dislocation compares but with the knee it tears some ligaments and stretches others which make it looser and more likely to happen again.
Gutted as I've been looking forward to seeing Delph against some weaker opposition.
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Shoulder is similar , once you've popped it out it's more prone to go again although I'm sure medical treatment is better than it was say 30 years ago.
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Then again back in the day I'm sure players had shoulders popped back in on the touch line and then played on. When men were men.
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Don't these injuries tend to repeat themselves also? Not sure if its because of the higher level of impact and intensity at the top of the game.
I dislocated my knee when I was about 16 and it recurred loads and have had to have an operation in my thirties. Not sure how a shoulder dislocation compares but with the knee it tears some ligaments and stretches others which make it looser and more likely to happen again.
Gutted as I've been looking forward to seeing Delph against some weaker opposition.
A mate of mine dislocated his knee while we were playing football about 12 years ago. I've never seen someone in more pain than he was that day. I still wince just thinking about it. He's never kicked a ball since.
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Don't these injuries tend to repeat themselves also? Not sure if its because of the higher level of impact and intensity at the top of the game.
I dislocated my knee when I was about 16 and it recurred loads and have had to have an operation in my thirties. Not sure how a shoulder dislocation compares but with the knee it tears some ligaments and stretches others which make it looser and more likely to happen again.
Gutted as I've been looking forward to seeing Delph against some weaker opposition.
A mate of mine dislocated his knee while we were playing football about 12 years ago. I've never seen someone in more pain than he was that day. I still wince just thinking about it. He's never kicked a ball since.
My mate did the same a about 20 years ago playing football, then a few years back slipped in a nightclub and did the same knee again, never seen someone in so much pain.
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Don't these injuries tend to repeat themselves also? Not sure if its because of the higher level of impact and intensity at the top of the game.
I dislocated my knee when I was about 16 and it recurred loads and have had to have an operation in my thirties. Not sure how a shoulder dislocation compares but with the knee it tears some ligaments and stretches others which make it looser and more likely to happen again.
Gutted as I've been looking forward to seeing Delph against some weaker opposition.
A mate of mine dislocated his knee while we were playing football about 12 years ago. I've never seen someone in more pain than he was that day. I still wince just thinking about it. He's never kicked a ball since.
My mate did the same a about 20 years ago playing football, then a few years back slipped in a nightclub and did the same knee again, never seen someone in so much pain.
What, it's worse than man flu then ?
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Didn't Curtis Davies suffer the same injury? I know he's a regular for Hull now but I seem to remember he kept having to have surgery on his shoulder.
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Like the guy earlier said about doing his shoulder playing rugby, one of my teammates dislocated his shoulder playing a couple of years ago and he looked like he was going to pass out from the pain, we had to stop the game because any sort of movement whatsoever was making it worse for him. Hes just come back after 2 years out.
Then again, in the Rugby world cup a few years ago a Georgian dude dislocated his shoulder and popped it back in right away, so either they can vary in severity or Georgians are the hardest people on the planet.
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It depends if he has damaged the muscles and tendons that usually hold the shoulder in place. Sometimes they can be a pig to repair.
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It depends if he has damaged the muscles and tendons that usually hold the shoulder in place. Sometimes they can be a pig to repair.
When I did mine (aikido) the physio told me the shoulder was the most complicated and least stable joint in the body - great
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He should have used padding like bent and nzogbia
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Bryan Robson's used to pop out all of the time.
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Does that make him Pop Robson?*
*One for the oldies there
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Bryan Robson's used to pop out all of the time.
Ooh er