Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 13, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
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Although I very rarely buy a programme I do like this idea. I also liked the Parma cover. Curious what the prog collectors think?
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Villa fans love a special edition programme - and every single issue of the Villa News & Record will be exceptional this season.
To mark the club's 140 years in existence, every front cover will be a different design - each one based on iconic Villa programmes from the past.
It will build into an impressive volume which no Villa collector will want to be without, and inside each issue we will be taking a look at the original programme and its contents.
The programme against Parma begins the set with the cover design from 1969 while our first top-flight edition against Newcastle refers back to 2001.
Our award-winning Villa Vault section will also include two new features.
'140 Years of Villa' will take a look, issue by issue, at significant moments and events throughout the course of our illustrious history.
And 'The Saunders Diaries' traces Ron Saunders' amazing first campaign as manager, when we marked our 1974-75 centenary season by winning the League Cup and promotion back to the top flight.
Those are just a couple of the changes to your matchday publication, which will be brighter and more informative than ever.
Other innovations include 'The Unseen Villa Park' - a look behind the scenes at areas of the stadium which are never seen by the public - and an offbeat feature called 'Can we sing a song for you'?
This will give an entertaining slant to our comprehensive coverage of the visiting club.
There will also be a regular in-depth feature with a player, plus regular columns with manager Paul Lambert, skipper Ron Vlaar and former Villa striker Stan Collymore.
Younger fans, meanwhile, will love the KidZone section, which will include a centrefold player poster, so there's something for Villans of all ages.
And to top it all, the price has been pegged at £3 for the sixth consecutive season. Our Parma edition will be just £2.
That's great value for a special programme.
Subscribe now to be entered into a competition to win a pair of Fabian Delph's boots, signed by the star midfielder himself.
Our subscription costs £66, with free delivery to the UK, £34 delivery to Europe and a £54 delivery charge to the rest of the world.
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In other merchandise news
Fabian Delph has really captured the imagination of supporters with his driving midfield performances - and that appreciation is certainly showing up big time in shirt sales in Villa Stores.
'Delph 16' is the most popular name and number combination after analysis of figures in the first week of trading in Villa Stores at Villa Village and New Street as well as the Online Store.
The likes of Christian Benteke, Ron Vlaar, Gabby Agbonlahor, Andi Weimann and Joe Cole are also showing strong numbers - with Jack Grealish faring best of the young lions.
Stan Collymore holds the all-time record for shirt name and number sales.
Other popular combinations in the Villa Stores are 'Villa 4 Ever', 'McGrath 5' and 'Petrov 19' as fans show off their loyalty to the club and their former heroes.
Merchandising boss John Greenfield said: "It's no real surprise to see Fabian at the top of the sales figures.
"Fabian, as everyone knows, has really progressed greatly in his time with the club - and he won player of the year with both fans and players last season.
"Who will forget that winning goal he scored against Chelsea or the blockbusters against Southampton and West Brom - these are the moments that really hit a chord with supporters.
"It's good to see Jack up there too. We are a club closely associated with bringing through youngsters all the way from the academy to the first team.
"Villa fans appreciate this and shirt sales follow suit."
Villa have also announced that Aly Cissokho will wear No.23.
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I like the programme idea. Credit also for not bumping the price up.
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Parma was £2, but isn't the regular price £3? If so, how come the free P&P subscription package is £66? 19 x £3 = £57. Or am I missing something (as usual)?
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I think that is a great idea. Love the Saunders Diary thing, might go and buy the programme just for that.
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Is this the official H&V?
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Does anyone buy this total guff anymore. I cant think of anything worse than the official programme bigging up our most recent defeat and saying what a great team we have.
Give me a bit of h&v any day
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Great idea. Like it.
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Does anyone buy this total guff anymore. I cant think of anything worse than the official programme bigging up our most recent defeat and saying what a great team we have.
Give me a bit of h&v any day
total guff? It's one of the best presented programmes in the industry. By that rationale I assume you feel no club should have a programme because all teams lose games.
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The 1968/69 programme is one of my favourites. It was still the smaller programme size before going to the larger match day magazine format.
Lots of memorable games in the second half of that season.
(http://www.astonvillaprogrammes.co.uk/programmes/1968-69/52877-md.jpg)
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I find the programmes quite useful not necessarily in the present day but a few years down the Line. Particularly the last one of the season which is full of data.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
A3 I believe.
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Saw a piece on Sky News earlier about the Sheffield United player who was jailed for rape and how he might come back into the team upon release. Shocking but what was more shocking was the price of the programme one guy was reading, presumably from their weekend game against Bristol City and it was £5!! FIVE ENGLISH POUNDS for a League one programme!!!
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Was it gold plated or something?
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
I was talking to sources close to the club recently and they said not long ago someone contacted them to say he had a complete set going back about forty years and because he'd lost his job he was selling them. He said he'd accept something like £4,000 from them. They didn't have the heart to tell him you'd barely get a tenth of that.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
We had loads of them as well. So many got lost or damaged during various house moves.
Anyone remember the cover with the fella massive flares and wearing loads of badges? For some reason that cover, plus on with Tommy Craig on the cover has always stuck in my head. Both were the big programme version iirc.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
I was talking to sources close to the club recently and they said not long ago someone contacted them to say he had a complete set going back about forty years and because he'd lost his job he was selling them. He said he'd accept something like £4,000 from them. They didn't have the heart to tell him you'd barely get a tenth of that.
Depends if it was aways as well, and how complete. The odd few are worth a bomb, most you'd struggle to get a quid for.
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
I was talking to sources close to the club recently and they said not long ago someone contacted them to say he had a complete set going back about forty years and because he'd lost his job he was selling them. He said he'd accept something like £4,000 from them. They didn't have the heart to tell him you'd barely get a tenth of that.
Depends if it was aways as well, and how complete. The odd few are worth a bomb, most you'd struggle to get a quid for.
It was just homes.
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Poor bugger.
There's reason you can buy the new one on match day in a bag with a bunch of old progs for a fiver. Which is what I do on the very very rare occasion I buy one. Although I did buy a few copies of the one I was in last season.
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Poor bugger.
There's reason you can buy the new one on match day in a bag with a bunch of old progs for a fiver. Which is what I do on the very very rare occasion I buy one. Although I did buy a few copies of the one I was in last season.
They also said that they've done well with that - three back issues against the club we're playing plus the current one. The trouble is that they've now run out of Liverpool/ManYew/Spur and the like and have thousands of Middlesbrough/Derby/Blackburn.
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Found a pic of the flares one, it wasn't a big prog though. And that stand, what a thing of beauty *cries*
(http://www.midlandsmemorabilia.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aston-villa-manchester-united-football-programme-21-02-1976.jpg)
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Hi Andy Lochhead.
There were some memorable games in the second half of 68/69.
The programme you depict was for the Boxing Day game vs Cardiff City -and that was one of them!
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I haven't bought a Villa programme for years now but I always used to like the way we'd present the section on the visiting team. Every other club in the land would do the usual 1 to 22 squad line up with a brief profile of the player. Very boring. Villa would always have a well researched write up of what had happened to the club over the last 12 months or so, and it was far better than anything I saw from any other club in the land. I think it was one of the reasons we're were always in the top 2 of the best programmes in the country (along with Everton, usually).
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
We had loads of them as well. So many got lost or damaged during various house moves.
Anyone remember the cover with the fella massive flares and wearing loads of badges? For some reason that cover, plus on with Tommy Craig on the cover has always stuck in my head. Both were the big programme version iirc.
Remember the little club shop outside the Trinity? Back in the 80s you could buy a selection of old programmes in a brown paper bag. I wonder if they still sell the old ones.
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Found a pic of the flares one, it wasn't a big prog though. And that stand, what a thing of beauty *cries*
(http://www.midlandsmemorabilia.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aston-villa-manchester-united-football-programme-21-02-1976.jpg)
Wonderful.
Just 'how of it's time' is that?
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The 1968/69 programme is one of my favourites. It was still the smaller programme size before going to the larger match day magazine format.
Lots of memorable games in the second half of that season.
(http://www.astonvillaprogrammes.co.uk/programmes/1968-69/52877-md.jpg)
fucking hell Andy that is my first ever game !!!! :)
as a 6 year old, I believe Barrington Hole scored the first goal I saw down the Villa....cheers for the memory mate UTV
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The progs in the late 70s early 80s were massive.
They were. Crikey I had hundreds and hundreds of programmes from the 70s all the way to the mid 2000s till I come to my senses and stopped buying them. I threw the lot into a skip after a clear out. I've regretted it ever since.
We had loads of them as well. So many got lost or damaged during various house moves.
Anyone remember the cover with the fella massive flares and wearing loads of badges? For some reason that cover, plus on with Tommy Craig on the cover has always stuck in my head. Both were the big programme version iirc.
Tommy Craig was being talked about by Jeff Stelling on Soccer Saturday last Saturday. They said he was taking on his first managerial job at the age of 61 at St. Mirren (I think it was St. Mirren). Then somebody contacted them to say he had managed a Belgium club for a short while a couple of years ago. I only buy a programme these days because my son wants one. Back in the days when I used to buy one myself I was flicking through one day and saw my name written in bold letters. It was a message to me from Terry Weir. I had written to him to ask for a copy of a couple of photos he took of myself and a fellow H&V poster at Nigel Spink's testimonial forum. One of us with SGT and another with Andy Gray, Peter Withe, Allan Evans and Spink. The message in the programme was that I was welcome to some copies (he didn't want any money for them), but it would be helpful if I could get back in touch and actually let him know my address this time!
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Found a pic of the flares one, it wasn't a big prog though. And that stand, what a thing of beauty *cries*
(http://www.midlandsmemorabilia.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aston-villa-manchester-united-football-programme-21-02-1976.jpg)
Wonderful.
Just 'how of it's time' is that?
Exactly what I was thinking- it just screams '1970's' at you
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Found a pic of the flares one, it wasn't a big prog though. And that stand, what a thing of beauty *cries*
(http://www.midlandsmemorabilia.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aston-villa-manchester-united-football-programme-21-02-1976.jpg)
Wonderful.
Just 'how of it's time' is that?
Exactly what I was thinking- it just screams '1970's' at you
Or 2000s at the Stripeys.
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Ha!
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He's wearing heels?!
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Compared with some of the glossy crap you get at some clubs in the name of a programme, ours consistently impresses me with its content and presentation and has for a few years now, no matter what the design. I imagine a lot of that is down to Rob Bishop who I met a few years ago when he did a feature on my nephew's first visit to VP (he had been unwittingly and unfortunately named Doug Ellis) and I wrote to mention the fact as perhaps a small item to include in said programme.
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Rob Bishop has done a couple of articles for me (for friends / relatives). He's a smashing bloke and a villa fanatic.
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Found a pic of the flares one, it wasn't a big prog though. And that stand, what a thing of beauty *cries*
(http://www.midlandsmemorabilia.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aston-villa-manchester-united-football-programme-21-02-1976.jpg)
Wonderful.
Just 'how of it's time' is that?
Exactly what I was thinking- it just screams '1970's' at you
Or 2000s at the Stripeys.
Have you still got that bag Dave?
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Rob Bishop has done a couple of articles for me (for friends / relatives). He's a smashing bloke and a villa fanatic.
Absolutely agree Silhill; he wrote back straight away and said they would do a feature on it. So I took Dougie and his Dad and we met the other Doug Ellis in the exec block. He was actually pretty charming, saying 'Now who is it who's called Doug Ellis? That's a bit of bad luck isn't it.' But Rob Bishop was genuinely brilliant all day. And the photos and article featured in the next programme.
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I agree about Rob. When I was dealing with him for when I was in the prog he was a really nice bloke.
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Rob Bishop is a true gent. Even though he cut me out of the afore-mentioned article!
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The 1968/69 programme is one of my favourites. It was still the smaller programme size before going to the larger match day magazine format.
Lots of memorable games in the second half of that season.
(http://www.astonvillaprogrammes.co.uk/programmes/1968-69/52877-md.jpg)
fucking hell Andy that is my first ever game !!!! :)
as a 6 year old, I believe Barrington Hole scored the first goal I saw down the Villa....cheers for the memory mate UTV
If I remember correctly did they not include The Football League Programme which baulked up your reading material so it filled the then full 10 minutes of half time? Pretty sure that this fairly weighty insert was also in full colour, can anyone confirm or am I going completely doolally flip flop?
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The 1968/69 programme is one of my favourites. It was still the smaller programme size before going to the larger match day magazine format.
Lots of memorable games in the second half of that season.
(http://www.astonvillaprogrammes.co.uk/programmes/1968-69/52877-md.jpg)
fucking hell Andy that is my first ever game !!!! :)
as a 6 year old, I believe Barrington Hole scored the first goal I saw down the Villa....cheers for the memory mate UTV
If I remember correctly did they not include The Football League Programme which baulked up your reading material so it filled the then full 10 minutes of half time? Pretty sure that this fairly weighty insert was also in full colour, can anyone confirm or am I going completely doolally flip flop?
The Football League Review. Was as many pages as a programme and in colour. As far as I remember it ran from the mid 1960s to the early 70s. Said a shilling on it but you got it included.
(http://www.footballzone.co.uk/images/i-20001/20717.jpg)(http://gotnotgot.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/football-league-review.jpg?w=640&h=309)
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I think this a great innovative idea.
As a kid in the 60,s collecting programmes was a passion, if I missed or lost one I would be at Villa Park looking for the back issue.
In the 70,s same story except now I went to away games, most of my away collections are creased from being rolled up in my pocket.
In the 80,s my dad sent me all the home game programmes, along with his biro notes for team changes and goal scorers.
Not sure if today I would buy a programme. With the internet etc, I would probably subscribe to H.V
Will miss the hard copy and am considering signing up for electronic version.
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Good idea, and a nice design. Keeping the price at two pounds should prove decent value too.
Some of those shirt statistics were a bit shocking mind. Collymore the most EVER? WTF :-[
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Good idea, and a nice design. Keeping the price at two pounds should prove decent value too.
Some of those shirt statistics were a bit shocking mind. Collymore the most EVER? WTF :-[
Only Parma was £2. For league games it is £3 as usual. Although at least the club have kept it at the price for 6 years now.
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The programmes middle to late sixties were excellent (unlike the team) with the Football League Review included for nothing. The best value for money programme we have ever had. And very professional.
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The prog for tonight looks nice.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/c9/4f/0,,10265~13062089,00.jpg)
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I recently dug out my programmes from the early 70s. There were lots of gaps so I decided to complete my home programme collections for the 74/75, 75/76 & 76/77 seasons.
74/75 will be complete once the last two arrive in the post.
75/76 is just missing the FA Cup 3rd round replay to Southampton, the eventual winners.
76/77 is missing the leicester game.
The latter two are proving difficult to find.
Reading Ron Saunders programme notes from the 74/75 season is fantastic. What a campaign that was. My first two visits to VP that year as well.