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Title: Fixture Changes
Post by: Chipsticks on July 14, 2014, 10:27:34 PM
Six of our games moved around.

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3994048,00.html

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Six of Villa's Barclays Premier League games have been chosen for live TV coverage.

The first set of broadcast selections for the 2014-15 campaign have been confirmed - with four of our home games and two away fixtures picked to be screened.

BT Sport will show Villa's first home match of the season against Newcastle on Saturday August 23, with the encounter now kicking off at 12.45pm.

Sky Sports are set to screen another five games featuring Paul Lambert's side.

Our fixtures against Liverpool at Anfield on Saturday September 13 and champions Manchester City at Villa Park on Saturday October 4 will now kick off at 5.30pm.

Our away trip to newly-promoted Queens Park Rangers has been switched to Monday October 27 at 8pm, although this game will revert to Saturday October 25 if either team reach the Capital One Cup fourth round.

We will now welcome Tottenham to B6 on Sunday November 2 with a 4pm kick-off, while the game against Southampton has been moved to Monday November 24 with an 8pm kick-off.

FIXTURE CHANGES

Sat Aug 23- Newcastle (H) - 12.45pm
Sat Sep 13 - Liverpool (A) - 5.30pm
Sat Oct 4 - Man City (H) - 5.30pm
Mon Oct 27 - QPR (A) - 8pm
Sun Nov 2 - Tottenham (H) - 4pm
Mon Nov 24 - Southampton (H) - 8pm

A bit annoyed about having to go to London on a Monday night as is our first home game moved to an early KO.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 14, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=51474.0
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Chipsticks on July 14, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Paging Dr. Mods.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2014, 11:14:38 PM
I'd leave it as it is personally - if people come on the site looking to find out which fixtures have been moved, a thread called "Fixture Changes" tells them what they need to know better than the tenth page of one called "2014/15".
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: peter w on July 14, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
QPR away is okay as it'll be a trip straight after work. Obviously would have preferred 3pm but at least it'll be easier to get a ticket with us sitting at the top of the pile come then.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 14, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
QPR away is okay as it'll be a trip straight after work. Obviously would have preferred 3pm but at least it'll be easier to get a ticket with us sitting at the top of the pile come then.

QPR now play in Lagos? Is it the 39th game?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 15, 2014, 12:06:04 AM
Yay, we're at home on my birthday, let's make a day of it.
Oh hang on.
Now MNF.

Bollocks.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
Ha. No, I'm back in the UK from 16th August.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Steve67 on July 15, 2014, 08:56:38 AM
Hopefully, we will be a lot better on the telly than we were last season. Apart from Norwich, I can't remember winning when we were televised?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
At The Premier League Fans meeting yesterday, the point was raised re: late notification of these fixtures, and fixtures in general.

The Spurs fan rep pointed out that a month ago, a train ticket for their away match at Sunderland would have been £40, and is now over £100.

The Premier League people said that the TV match changes are increasingly held up by the police being slower and slower to agree the revised kick off times. It is the police who have the final say.

They pointed out that we now know the changes right through to November, so this will be helpful. It was only as the discussion passed (which was quick and quite hard to get heard as there were loads of people there who had been going for years and they went to more easily) that I thought, we don't need to know through to November yet - if it is so difficult to get all these changes agreed. Why didn't they just get August/September done a month ago, work on October this month, and November the month after? Surely it makes sense to agree them in shorter blocks, but with more notice?

Anyway - the other thing today is that the club had planned 140th anniversary celebration for Saturday 22nd November. Our actual 140th anniversary is the 21st, but it is not the proximity to the date, so much as the fact that there is less you can do with a Monday night. Although - maybe it just requires a re-think on plans. The plans were more for pre-match stuff around the ground, & maybe this will change to something like that Spurs anniversary game at WHL where they had flags and stuff and we were thrashing them & singing happy birthday before they made a come back. (although of course we have some very mixed memories of flags so I'm not sure how this would go down)

I guess I'd be interested as to whether people think we should make a fuss about Sky messing up our 140th anniversary plans? Is it an important enough anniversary? Is it actually just a case of re-thinking how we celebrate? Is it worth making the point simply in the hope that when it's our 150th they might think twice?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: mrastonvilla on July 15, 2014, 09:19:08 AM
Hopefully, we will be a lot better on the telly than we were last season. Apart from Norwich, I can't remember winning when we were televised?

Chelsea at home?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2014, 09:20:30 AM
Norwich away aswell.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: mrastonvilla on July 15, 2014, 09:35:26 AM
At The Premier League Fans meeting yesterday, the point was raised re: late notification of these fixtures, and fixtures in general.

The Spurs fan rep pointed out that a month ago, a train ticket for their away match at Sunderland would have been £40, and is now over £100.

The Premier League people said that the TV match changes are increasingly held up by the police being slower and slower to agree the revised kick off times. It is the police who have the final say.

They pointed out that we now know the changes right through to November, so this will be helpful. It was only as the discussion passed (which was quick and quite hard to get heard as there were loads of people there who had been going for years and they went to more easily) that I thought, we don't need to know through to November yet - if it is so difficult to get all these changes agreed. Why didn't they just get August/September done a month ago, work on October this month, and November the month after? Surely it makes sense to agree them in shorter blocks, but with more notice?

Anyway - the other thing today is that the club had planned 140th anniversary celebration for Saturday 22nd November. Our actual 140th anniversary is the 21st, but it is not the proximity to the date, so much as the fact that there is less you can do with a Monday night. Although - maybe it just requires a re-think on plans. The plans were more for pre-match stuff around the ground, & maybe this will change to something like that Spurs anniversary game at WHL where they had flags and stuff and we were thrashing them & singing happy birthday before they made a come back. (although of course we have some very mixed memories of flags so I'm not sure how this would go down)

I guess I'd be interested as to whether people think we should make a fuss about Sky messing up our 140th anniversary plans? Is it an important enough anniversary? Is it actually just a case of re-thinking how we celebrate? Is it worth making the point simply in the hope that when it's our 150th they might think twice?

I think we should make a fuss to sky! A Monday night game would mean less people and particularly younger supporters would have the chance to get involved with any celebrations.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: UK Redsox on July 15, 2014, 09:39:20 AM

I guess I'd be interested as to whether people think we should make a fuss about Sky messing up our 140th anniversary plans? Is it an important enough anniversary? Is it actually just a case of re-thinking how we celebrate? Is it worth making the point simply in the hope that when it's our 150th they might think twice?

If it was the 100th or 150th then yes, a fuss should be made about the game being moved. However, 140 is a pretty meaningless number to me. No different to 139 or 141 as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 15, 2014, 09:48:29 AM
I was looking forward to a messy all day Saturday session in Shepherds Bush as a poor substitute for Fulham. Now it's going to be a couple of swifties after work before the game on a Monday.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 10:28:13 AM
I was looking forward to a messy all day Saturday session in Shepherds Bush as a poor substitute for Fulham. Now it's going to be a couple of swifties after work before the game on a Monday.

Unless either of us are still in the League Cup.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 15, 2014, 10:34:34 AM
I was looking forward to a messy all day Saturday session in Shepherds Bush as a poor substitute for Fulham. Now it's going to be a couple of swifties after work before the game on a Monday.

Unless either of us are still in the League Cup.

So it will be a few swifties after work on a Monday night in Shepherds Bush then
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 10:35:48 AM
QPR might get through...
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 15, 2014, 10:40:24 AM
The 140th anniversary that some are championing all seems rather pointless to me. It isn't a proper milestone so I wouldn't beat Sky about ruining that.

Buggering about with the fixtures is something they do need a boot up the arse for though.

Something in place where they can't change them without 3 months notice would be a good start.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 10:45:37 AM
They could've announced the live August and September televised fixtures before the World Cup. Then have another announcement of the October, November and maybe Christmas period live games about now. Wouldn't have cost Sky any extra viewers, and would've made life a lot easier for travelling fans to book holidays around games and purchase train tickets at a more reasonable price.

I think we have to accept that the fixtures are always gonna be buggered about with... but it's not unreasonable to ask that they give fans sufficient notice and try to avoid giving teams away games at Newcastle kicking off before the first train of the day arrives (as seems to happen most years).

The Government could also encourage train companies to offer cancellation deals. I don't think many would mind paying an extra couple of quid per ticket if it meant they could save fifty pounds plus if the event they're attending gets cancelled or rearranged.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 10:47:58 AM
I'm also not that arsed about the 140th Anniversary but would like us to make a fuss over the 150th.

Amfy, where did you get the date in November from out of interest? I didn't think anyone knew the exact date we were founded on?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2014, 10:53:32 AM
I think Trevor Fisher came up with it. I have no idea beyond that.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 10:55:42 AM
Thanks AM.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
Any idea how?
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on July 15, 2014, 11:36:59 AM
I'm pretty sure that AVFC were formed in March 1874 so maybe the November date is the date of our first official match.
It's all in The Aston Villa Chronicles so I'll have a look this evening.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 11:40:44 AM
The Aston Brook St Mary's half-football, half-rugby game that is generally considered to be our first match was played in March 1875.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
If we were formed as a way of doing something out of the cricket months it would be unlikely to be as early as March 1874 but after the end of the cricket season that year. Although that depends on he cricket calendar in 1874.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
Two different Wikipedia articles list the founding date as March 1874, although in one case the article references a dead link and in another it cites an ancient edition of The Times which I couldn't find anywhere, certainly not without paying anyway.

Another article lists our founding date as "early 1874" so I see little to back up Trevor's claim of being founded in November, but happy to be proven wrong.

I'm pretty sure that when we celebrated our Centenary, against Dirty Leeds in one of Brian Clough's few victories with that team, it was just done pre-season in 1974, rather than targeted at any specific date.

I'd be happy to commemorate the 150th at any point in 2024 really. Maybe pick a start of season or pre-season game when we won't all be nervous wrecks thinking about relegation and there is a decent chance of the weather being nice.

A friendly against Bayern Munich would be the best way to mark it, I reckon. Maybe preceded by an Old Stars game against our Double-Winning season FA Cup Final opponents Everton so we could commemorate the club's two greatest achievements in one go.

Obviously that's assuming we haven't conquered Europe or won a Double/Treble in the intervening decade.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 01:10:27 PM
Just checked and the Leeds Centenary game was on 7th August 1974.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Holte L2 on July 15, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
My brother is getting married on Saturday 4th October at 1.30.  With the fixture change for the Man City game, he's said I'm perfectly fine to go to the service, have photo's taken - then nip out to go to the game and then pop over for the evening do.

I'll be in the Holte in a nice tweed suit!!
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Ads on July 15, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
Weddings are much more fun than football.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: paulcomben on July 15, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
I'd leave it as it is personally - if people come on the site looking to find out which fixtures have been moved, a thread called "Fixture Changes" tells them what they need to know better than the tenth page of one called "2014/15".

Well, that's my Klout score shafted for yet another week.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 15, 2014, 05:47:53 PM
Arse. School reunion part 2 is the day of the Citeh home game. The late kick off means it is too late for me to travel down to it after the game.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 06:04:27 PM
Missing that too due to stag weekend. The one time I hope a game moves to Monday night of course they don't oblige.

Sad thing is I'd quite happily miss Man U at home. Hate those games.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2014, 06:41:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that when we celebrated our Centenary, against Dirty Leeds in one of Brian Clough's few victories with that team, it was just done pre-season in 1974, rather than targeted at any specific date.



Fcking typical Villa. Even then.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: paulcomben on July 15, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Weddings are much more fun than football.

Discuss? Long boring periods punctuated by eye-catching appearances, booze breaks, snacks, memorable incidents, amusing mistakes, chats with friends and strangers in the crowd and, of course, scoring or clean sheets.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2014, 07:39:12 PM

I'm pretty sure that when we celebrated our Centenary, against Dirty Leeds in one of Brian Clough's few victories with that team, it was just done pre-season in 1974, rather than targeted at any specific date.



Fcking typical Villa. Even then.

We had some major event v Spurs in the late 90s I remember, towards the end of the season aswell.

Was that 100 years at Villa Park or something? It was featured on one of the season reviews.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 15, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
It was 100 years at Villa Park, commemorated in 1997. Match was preceded by an Old Stars game between Villa and Blackburn as they were the first visiting team at VP.
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Rudy65 on July 15, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
Just checked and the Leeds Centenary game was on 7th August 1974.

I was there. Leeds were the league champs and fielded a strong side. my favourite player was Ray Graydon and he missed two pens. I was gutted We lost 2 one
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Holte L2 on July 15, 2014, 10:51:57 PM
Weddings are much more fun than football.

Sometimes. I'd bloody love to come back for the evening doo after a win though!!
Title: Re: Fixture Changes
Post by: Gregorys Boy on July 19, 2014, 12:48:56 AM
Am based in Brighton, and have not been to QPR, so hope to go to that game.  Hope it stays on the Sunday, but at least have people I can stay with if it does kick off on the Monday.
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