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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Louzie0 on April 15, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
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In the interests of keeping the speculation and dodgy news to other dedicated threads already under way, I thought we might use a new one to wish the very best of luck to our new coaching supremos.
And the club, of course and all who sail - you get the idea.
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If 10% of Sid's ability were to rub off on our current midfield then we'll be just fine.
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Yes the very best of luck to them both.
I sincerely believe they can contribute very positively to our survival.
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Good shout, Louzie0. I think what has happened today will have a massively positive effect on Saturday, and for the remainder of the season.
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First game I looking forward to since Liverpool at home back in August. Delighted to see Sid involved in our hour of need. Respect to Shay for being a perfect professional and to the club for giving him the opportunity.
The other good news is it's only Tuesday. The lads will be buzzing come Saturday.
Off to dig out The Jackson Sisters - I Believe in Miracles. It's that kind of day.
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Up the Villa.
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Good Luck Sid & Shay the villa's SAS
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The players like them, if rumours are true they didn't like he previous coaches, so a change of mood and an uplift in belief could really give the likes of Gabby a lift.
Hopefully our West Ham bounce coming up this weekend. I am looking forward to it.
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I went to the Lions and Legends charity game on Sunday and saw Sid playing. In fact he tailgated me through Boldmere to get there. Spoke to him in the bar after but only to get a picture signed.
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This made me larf.
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Well good luck. I fear it is a disaster in the making, but what the hell. Maybe just maybe the players will get some kind of bounce out of it.
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Well good luck. I fear it is a disaster in the making, but what the hell. Maybe just maybe the players will get some kind of bounce out of it.
Really? It can't get any worse. Can it?
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An exciting development. Very good news about Shay, back from the bomb squad. What next, Benty for Head of Recruitment?
If this is down to Faulkner I'm impressed.
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Sid has probably forgot more about passing, movement and general football nous than a third rate midfielder (Culverhouse) will ever learn.
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Well good luck. I fear it is a disaster in the making, but what the hell. Maybe just maybe the players will get some kind of bounce out of it.
I think we only need to bounce to one more win and we'd stay up. Moreso this moves suggests that the clubs rulers will not accept the level of performance that we have seen over this season. Admittedly most - myself included - would prefer to see Lambert gone too, but this is a move in the right direction. Not to mention a good way of reducing any compensation due.
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This made me larf.
And I
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Well good luck. I fear it is a disaster in the making, but what the hell. Maybe just maybe the players will get some kind of bounce out of it.
Really? It can't get any worse. Can it?
Yeah it could get worse. But I dont want to shit up the positive vibes thread. Lets hope that Cowans ability to weave a web of mastery in midfield can translate to the first team. Hopefully he and Shay will get a nice roar of support.
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Well good luck. I fear it is a disaster in the making, but what the hell. Maybe just maybe the players will get some kind of bounce out of it.
Really? It can't get any worse. Can it?
Yeah it could get worse. But I dont want to shit up the positive vibes thread. Lets hope that Cowans ability to weave a web of mastery in midfield can translate to the first team. Hopefully he and Shay will get a nice roar of support.
We'll if it does get worse, we'll know whose fault it is and I don't mean Sid or Shay.
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The players "enjoyed training today more than they had in months".
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Where is that from Ads?
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i met david platt just off tottenham court road two weeks ago and shook his hand thanked him for everything he did for the villa etc and he said that we need VILLA men on the coaching staff just like it was when brian little was in charge.
always remember when he said years ago his one ambition in life was to make a run into the box that gordan cowans didnt see.
good luck sid but is this lamberts final throw of the dice ??
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I thought I was Perry Barr Pet!
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I thought I was Perry Barr Pet!
Looks like you've been mugged, mate!!
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http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2014-04-15/aston-villa-suspensions-players-enjoyed-training-session-for-first-time-in-months/
Positive!!
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Is Tom Ravenscroft on here? He loves his vibes.
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Is Tom Ravenscroft on here? He loves his vibes.
So does Jenna Jameson.
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Well well, interesting news. Many have said all ain't well somewhere. If they are the poison then good riddance and I personally think that promoting given just shows Lambert is not that stubborn and is willing to learn, change and do whatever to make it work here.
All the best of luck to Sid, Given and the rest of the coaching staff. Lambert being more hands of makes perfect sense to me. Why managers these days feel no need to be there with the team during the week is madness.
I'm quite excited again now .
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Given & Cowans. Sounds like an Architecural practice.
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Sound good, and let get Martin Laursen and a former striker (John Carew or Dean Saunders) in for new look coaching staff with grooming Martin Laursen as successor. Brian Little should be director of football.
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Sound good, and let get Martin Laursen and a former striker (John Carew or Dean Saunders) in for new look coaching staff with grooming Martin Laursen as successor. Brian Little should be director of football.
And let's get Noele Gordon in, too. She was a Villa fan.
Doesn't matter if she's in the deads, she'll still have the love of the club about her.
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We should appoint Andy Townsend, and get him to bring his tactics truck.
(anything to get him off the telly)
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If 10% of Sid's ability were to rub off on our current midfield then we'll be just fine.
3%
And Shay's.
Everything crossed but I think that this purge may have set our beloved team free.
In the words of Hedley Lamarr - 'Now, go do that voodoo that you do so well!'
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And Mervyn King in place of Faulkner. And Nigel Kennedy as fitness coach.
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Scary thought but if the suspensions are only temporary, what if Culverhouse and Karsa are back in charge by thursday :'(
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oops. Good point.
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Good luck Sid & Shay.............
I am actually looking forward to the next match in a positive mood for a change
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Sound good, and let get Martin Laursen and a former striker (John Carew or Dean Saunders) in for new look coaching staff with grooming Martin Laursen as successor. Brian Little should be director of football.
And let's get Noele Gordon in, too. She was a Villa fan.
Doesn't matter if she's in the deads, she'll still have the love of the club about her.
She certainly was and never boasted about it. She used to drink in the Atkinsons pub opposite the ATV Studios on a regular basis.
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Sound good, and let get Martin Laursen and a former striker (John Carew or Dean Saunders) in for new look coaching staff with grooming Martin Laursen as successor. Brian Little should be director of football.
And let's get Noele Gordon in, too. She was a Villa fan.
Doesn't matter if she's in the deads, she'll still have the love of the club about her.
She certainly was and never boasted about it. She used to drink in the Atkinsons pub opposite the ATV Studios on a regular basis.
Invoking the spirit of Meg...
And actually, Noele Gordon died on April 14th, 1985, so her anniversary is very pertinent to this crisis in her club. She is definitely with us!
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And Mervyn King in place of Faulkner. And Nigel Kennedy as fitness coach.
You kid but dirty Mervyn would sort this club out pronto.
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And Mervyn King in place of Faulkner. And Nigel Kennedy as fitness coach.
You kid but dirty Mervyn would sort this club out pronto.
I'd be keen frankly.
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I'd be Keane, Robbie.
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It was said in another thread that Villa play good football at youth/reserve level. Well, now the coach who is responsible for that style has been promoted to the first team! Happy days!
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It was said in another thread that Villa play good football at youth/reserve level. Well, now the coach who is responsible for that style has been promoted to the first team! Happy days!
Absolutely happy days.
Just want the First Team to rediscover that approach and for those who weren't there at the youth stage, to be persuaded. We know it works.
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Wonderful news, very positive stuff.
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I am proud that we have an irregular past participle on board. And Given is much better than beaten, or lost. Hoping that we can bring won on board too.
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Good luck to both, I have a horrible feeling they are going to need it.
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I am proud that we have an irregular past participle on board. And Given is much better than beaten, or lost. Hoping that we can bring won on board too.
So, hope for Bent then?
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Get the feeling this may be like a massive release of tension for everyone, players, fans, management, just a pity we dont have the big fella up front to capitalize. can`t put my finger on it but it might just be what was needed, because whatever was going on - and something obviously was, it sure wasn`t helping.
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I'm hoping that we will get that 'new manager' effect and give someone a proper good spanking.
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I'm hoping that we will get that 'new manager' effect and give someone a proper good spanking.
Saturday would do nicely.
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Win on Saturday and we are pretty much safe. Let's hope this is the catalyst for it.
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For no logical reason at all I am really looking forward to Saturday's game. Hopefully this gives everyone a lift, the crowd can make some noise and we can get a positive result.
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Sounds like the playing squad have been lifted, ,let's hope that translates onto the pitch on Saturday!
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Training- Day one of the Sid 'n' Shay show.
Sid: Lesson one lads...pass the fucking ball.
Gabby raises his hand. Sid frowns.
Sid: To someone wearing the same colour shirt as you.
Gabby lowers his hand. Nathan Baker raises his hand.
Sid: And someone on the pitch. Not in the crowd.
Baker lowers his hand.
Sid: Pass and move lads. Pass and move.
The squad looks on confused, struggling to fathom the new fangled concept that Sid Cowans is peddling.
Shay: It's gonna be a long week boss.
Sid: Yes. Where's Paul?
Shay: He's hiding under his desk in the office, rocking gently back and forth.
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I am proud that we have an irregular past participle on board. And Given is much better than beaten, or lost. Hoping that we can bring won on board too.
So, hope for Bent then?
Yes, if it is bent around the wall into the top corner. And let's not forget "shot"...
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For no logical reason at all I am really looking forward to Saturday's game. Hopefully this gives everyone a lift, the crowd can make some noise and we can get a positive result.
I am now looking forward to Saturday and an upbeat atmosphere. Previously I was dreading both the game and likely bad atmosphere.
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For no logical reason at all I am really looking forward to Saturday's game. Hopefully this gives everyone a lift, the crowd can make some noise and we can get a positive result.
I am now looking forward to Saturday and an upbeat atmosphere. Previously I was dreading both the game and likely bad atmosphere.
Same here, I was thinking it would need an extra couple of pints pre-match to cope.
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We can do what the Fulham and CP supportors did and be the 12th man the team need. I will not and never have boo'd I just silently slink away after each defeat for another ruined weekend, on the odd occasion that i go home with a smile I think my wife thinks I have been having an affair.
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We can do what the Fulham and CP supportors did and be the 12th man the team need. I will not and never have boo'd I just silently slink away after each defeat for another ruined weekend, on the odd occasion that i go home with a smile I think my wife thinks I have been having an affair.
I think it would have to be an on-off affair in our case.
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I am in the lake district this weekend. Notable easter results while there previously have been home defeat to Liverpool, victory at west ham under Houllier and Gabby scoring on debut at Everton. Hopefully a win this weekend and I can enjoy match of the day!
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I am in the lake district this weekend. Notable easter results while there previously have been home defeat to Liverpool, victory at west ham under Houllier and Gabby scoring on debut at Everton. Hopefully a win this weekend and I can enjoy match of the day!
I was at the Everton match and it wasn't Easter. It was a few weeks before.
In fact easter that year was when we beat The Scum 3-1.
2006. Yep. Defo.
Classic quote after the game some Nose was moaning about how rubbish it was trying to get out of the ground from the North Stand.
Villa fan said '...don't worry - you won't be coming here again..
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Scary thought but if the suspensions are only temporary, what if Culverhouse and Karsa are back in charge by thursday :'(
I don't know, but I'd say that is virtually impossible. If there are grounds to suspend them, they'll be gone.
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Given on five live now.
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What did he say?
Interesting that he has his A and B badges already, good sign and seems the sort you would want on the coaching staff.
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Do you think sid + given might look at lambert and think we could do a better job than you ?
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Do you think sid + given might look at lambert and think we could do a better job than you ?
Everybody else probably does so why not? I've no doubt that some kids in the family stand could do no worse than Lambert.
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Given sounds like an all round good egg and along with Sid this might be just what Lambert needed. You get the impression that Culverhouse and Karsa became a bit Keyes and Gray. I'm glad they're gone (almost) and that good people and football people are getting a chance, if only possibly temporarily
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Westwood and Hendrie were playing at some golf day today. SSN couldn't get any revelations from tbejr report though.
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Nice to see a positive thread on here
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For no logical reason at all I am really looking forward to Saturday's game. Hopefully this gives everyone a lift, the crowd can make some noise and we can get a positive result.
I am now looking forward to Saturday and an upbeat atmosphere. Previously I was dreading both the game and likely bad atmosphere.
Same here, I was thinking it would need an extra couple of pints pre-match to cope.
I think Jane & I might go with this tactic anyway. Better safe than sorry & all that.
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Given sounds like an all round good egg and along with Sid this might be just what Lambert needed. You get the impression that Culverhouse and Karsa became a bit Keyes and Gray. I'm glad they're gone (almost) and that good people and football people are getting a chance, if only possibly temporarily
Andy Gray is obviously intelligent on the football side of things and has experience of being an assistant manager. Shay Given strikes me as the same sort of football thinker. Sorry to say this but I think Gordon Cowans has been around at Villa Park for far too long without showing
any exceptional coaching skills. But he is, of course, popular with the fanbase because of his playing skills.
Its quite possibly Lambert is using him to gain favour with the support and if that is true it is disgraceful.
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Given sounds like an all round good egg and along with Sid this might be just what Lambert needed. You get the impression that Culverhouse and Karsa became a bit Keyes and Gray. I'm glad they're gone (almost) and that good people and football people are getting a chance, if only possibly temporarily
Andy Gray is obviously intelligent on the football side of things and has experience of being an assistant manager. Shay Given strikes me as the same sort of football thinker. Sorry to say this but I think Gordon Cowans has been around at Villa Park for far too long without showing
any exceptional coaching skills. But he is, of course, popular with the fanbase because of his playing skills.
Its quite possibly Lambert is using him to gain favour with the support and if that is true it is disgraceful.
You know this is the positive vibes thread right?
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Yep. In that case ive just watched Sid make a tremendous goal saving tackle against Watford in 83.
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For no logical reason at all I am really looking forward to Saturday's game. Hopefully this gives everyone a lift, the crowd can make some noise and we can get a positive result.
I am now looking forward to Saturday and an upbeat atmosphere. Previously I was dreading both the game and likely bad atmosphere.
Same here, I was thinking it would need an extra couple of pints pre-match to cope.
I think Jane & I might go with this tactic anyway. Better safe than sorry & all that.
Very true.
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Given sounds like an all round good egg and along with Sid this might be just what Lambert needed. You get the impression that Culverhouse and Karsa became a bit Keyes and Gray. I'm glad they're gone (almost) and that good people and football people are getting a chance, if only possibly temporarily
Andy Gray is obviously intelligent on the football side of things and has experience of being an assistant manager. Shay Given strikes me as the same sort of football thinker. Sorry to say this but I think Gordon Cowans has been around at Villa Park for far too long without showing
any exceptional coaching skills. But he is, of course, popular with the fanbase because of his playing skills.
Its quite possibly Lambert is using him to gain favour with the support and if that is true it is disgraceful.
Anyone who genuinely thinks Lambert is "using" Cowans to gain favour with Villa fans simply does not like Lambert. Ron, all due respect but I think that theory is crazy.
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I think the reality is that the club at board and management level have become too detached from the fans. Getting Sid back with the first team should give everyone a big lift as he has such a presence at Villa. Plus he's worked with the likes of Wiemann, Gabby, Clark and Baker in the past, so perhaps Sid knows how to get more out of them.
Having sat in the Trinity Road stand, I can vouch that Culverhouse has been, shall we say, rather obnoxious with one or two of us. If you don;t like the heat Ian then you shouldn't go in the kitchen.
Seems strange going onto Saturday that the number one nd number two in the dugout are former European champions!
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Having been so excited about a forthcoming villa game for seems like ages. Hope we get the win and kick on. The players should be so pumped and motivated to win this game.
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Given sounds like an all round good egg and along with Sid this might be just what Lambert needed. You get the impression that Culverhouse and Karsa became a bit Keyes and Gray. I'm glad they're gone (almost) and that good people and football people are getting a chance, if only possibly temporarily
Andy Gray is obviously intelligent on the football side of things and has experience of being an assistant manager. Shay Given strikes me as the same sort of football thinker. Sorry to say this but I think Gordon Cowans has been around at Villa Park for far too long without showing
any exceptional coaching skills. But he is, of course, popular with the fanbase because of his playing skills.
Its quite possibly Lambert is using him to gain favour with the support and if that is true it is disgraceful.
Anyone who genuinely thinks Lambert is "using" Cowans to gain favour with Villa fans simply does not like Lambert. Ron, all due respect but I think that theory is crazy.
Anything is possible in the wonderful world of football, TV. It has been reported that bullying may have taken place.As Eastie is no longer with us do you know who is the players union rep at Villa Park? You would have thought this kind of behaviour (if true) would have been reported to their elected union rep.
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Bullying is very hard to prove. They must have lots of evidence from lots of sources if indeed it is bullying as per the rumours
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How much impacrt on selection and tactics do they have? Didn't see much yesterday?
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Got to admit I was hoping for more.
However, the impact of 3 days up against the negativity of several months was probably always going to be difficult to establish.
Hopefully, the next week should help to improve the well being of the squad and ditto the following weeks till the end of the season. Aiming to improve the performance on match day, of course.
Best bit of Saturday was young Robinson coming on at last.
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To be fair Louzie0, the best bit of Saturday was not losing - again! And we could easily have done so.
But it was great to see him come on and probably the biggest cheer of the day from the Villa fans.
UTV!
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To be fair Louzie0, the best bit of Saturday was not losing - again!
Agree, Frankmosswasmyuncle! UTV!
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I think the reality is that the club at board and management level have become too detached from the fans. Getting Sid back with the first team should give everyone a big lift as he has such a presence at Villa. Plus he's worked with the likes of Wiemann, Gabby, Clark and Baker in the past, so perhaps Sid knows how to get more out of them.
Having sat in the Trinity Road stand, I can vouch that Culverhouse has been, shall we say, rather obnoxious with one or two of us. If you don;t like the heat Ian then you shouldn't go in the kitchen.
Seems strange going onto Saturday that the number one nd number two in the dugout are former European champions!
Would prefer Sid to stay with the kids. Dont want his reputation tarnished in association with Lambert
We need an experienced assistant in if Lambert stays
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Most positive vibiest thing I have is that our defence is good enough to get us two more 0-0 draws before the end of the season.