Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on April 12, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
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v Southampton (H)
v Swansea City (A)
v Hull City (H)
v Manchester City (A)
v Tottenham Hotspur (A)
LDDLL
Staying up by a point in 16th on GD.
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As above.
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A win from somewhere,we have it in us which makes everything even more baffling.
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The only game I can see us getting something out of is the Hull game I think we'll lose the rest. Lets hope the shitness of other clubs helps us stay up. Cheers Lambert and Lerner look what you have reduced us too....utter disgrace.
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Pathetic.
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Sunderland are a s good as down and Naaarwich have a hurrendous run-in. So us, Cardiff, Boggies or Fulham for the last spot. I just hope Soton are already on tbe beach as they can't really go anywhere and we get a win.
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WLDLD
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We'll lose the whole lot.
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It'll be just like us to nick it at Man City
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2 draws, Swansea and Hull.
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Squeaky bum time
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LDLWL and cost Manchester City the title.
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Pathetic.
LDDLL
36 Points....
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WWWWW
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I confidently predict Aston Villa will never win another football match from now till the end of time.
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Can't you be a bit more optimistic than that? Prophet of doom!
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I confidently predict Aston Villa will never win another football match from now till the end of time.
We could contrive a way of losing to Hyde.
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I will make a prediction. Once Lambert has gone we will start winning at Villa Park. He put the mouth on himself after one of our very rare wins at home by saying "that has got the monkey off our backs" WRONG
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I had us down to lose the Hull game on the basis that it's the sort of game we lose when there's nothing to play for towards the end of the season.
Now it seems likely that we will have plenty to play for, I reckon we'll win it. We'll beat Southampton too, fear not. We'll be fucking atrocious against Spurs, as ever.
WDWLL.
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Two points. Hull Tigers and Swansea. Lose see the rest. Those 2 points will be vital in fighting off Norwich for 17/18th place.
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Maybe 2 draws but thats all for me so 36 points which will just keep us up.
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Can't you be a bit more optimistic than that? Prophet of doom!
I was trying to type a website address and got the shakes.
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If Hull make the FA cup final that may distract them and we may win that one
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They'll have Long & Jelavic available ( both cup tied) so it won't be that easy. Plus Bruce doesn't have the worst record against us. I agree it's our best chance for a point, we are postponing the inevitable under this guy. Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
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Summed up in a sentence Stu. Experimentation presented as forward planning.
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
Very well put Stu.
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
It's been like patching a broken roof with cheap tarpaulin. Sooner rather than later, no matter how long you keep your fingers crossed, that patchwork is going to fall apart. This is a known thing to anyone with half a brain. You have to spend the money to fix the roof properly, with the proper materials, otherwise the whole thing comes crashing down and you're left with a far more expensive disaster. The sheer stupidity and arrogance of it is astounding.
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
Nail on head
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DLDLL and that's me being optomistic
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Can't see us getting another point to be honest and am surprised by the optimism on here. I've seen nothing of late to show we are capable of getting another point.
The only chance we have is if Hull make the FA Cup Final and are safe ten maybe they'd rest some players? What a fucking shit season, having to rely on teams like Hull to hopefully rest their better players (if they have any).
More than anything, we have to rely on other teams not getting the amount of points we're on now. Sunderland, Norwich and A.N.Other.
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They'll have Long & Jelavic available ( both cup tied) so it won't be that easy. Plus Bruce doesn't have the worst record against us. I agree it's our best chance for a point, we are postponing the inevitable under this guy. Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
Didn't know that about Long and Jelavic. Well that doesn't help at all!
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I honestly don't know where this elusive point will come from.
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4 points. 3 against one of Hull or S'ton.. 38 points and survival, woop-de-doo :(
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Nicked for our FB page, Stu.
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
The question is; is it his or his boss's experiment?
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Can't see us getting another point to be honest and am surprised by the optimism on here. I've seen nothing of late to show we are capable of getting another point.
The only chance we have is if Hull make the FA Cup Final and are safe ten maybe they'd rest some players? What a fucking shit season, having to rely on teams like Hull to hopefully rest their better players (if they have any).
More than anything, we have to rely on other teams not getting the amount of points we're on now. Sunderland, Norwich and A.N.Other.
I'm afraid I am also pinning my hopes on the Hull game and them resting players or putting in a half hearted pre final performance. No chance in the last two games, maybe a point at Swansea or against Southampton but I wouldn't bet on it. Just watch Sheffield United win today and shaft us for the second time this season. It really has come to this.
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
Well said. If anyone mentioned 'The Plan' to me with any hint of seriousness at the moment I don't know what I would do. I had better stay away from the mail website because if Faulkner mentions it in the coming days the laptop would go through a window.
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Chris I think it is one of those situations where it is both and neither. It is like when you go with your wife to choose some paint for the downstairs loo and she really wants Mulberry Blush and you really want Polar White and you buy Magnolia which you both hate but did not think it was worth a row in B and Q.
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Plus our players are unfortunately not good enough
The truth of the 'young and hungry' model. It was never a plan, it was an experiment to see if we could survive on the cheap.
Yep.
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
The question is; is it his or his boss's experiment?
It's his boss's. Lambert just couldn't turn down the chance to manage a club as big as the Villa.
He'll certainly never get another chance.
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Perhaps if anyone still has their 'bright future' scarves we could return them en masse on the basis they contain a false advertising claim.
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We'll take 5 points I reckon. God knows how and where but law of averages
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It's difficult to see us not taking another point in the run in no matter how badly we're playing.
Even yesterday we were abysmal in the second half and yet the game was petering out to a nil nil so I can see us picking up a point or two v teams who a) can't score and b) can't be bothered. Hull look in the can't be bothered camp given they're safe and will probably be in a cup final and given Southampton couldn't score and lost at home to Cardiff that suggests to me they're on the beach now so think we can scrape a point next week.
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
The question is; is it his or his boss's experiment?
It's his boss's. Lambert just couldn't turn down the chance to manage a club as big as the Villa.
He'll certainly never get another chance.
This is a guess, but buy on the cheap for few years, tread water and then hopefully we would be better financially to buy better players.... As said looks like Randy is no longer interested, I suppose the summer will tell.
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
The question is; is it his or his boss's experiment?
It's his boss's. Lambert just couldn't turn down the chance to manage a club as big as the Villa.
He'll certainly never get another chance.
This is a guess, but buy on the cheap for few years, tread water and then hopefully we would be better financially to buy better players.... As said looks like Randy is no longer interested, I suppose the summer will tell.
It perhaps started out as a hobby for Lerner, but it is definitely solely a business now. He will not go down the road of big players/big wages. No chance.
O'Neill left because it was spelt out, General Krulak disappeared and Lerner no longer attends. Its over for the owner, he's selling (if he can)
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v Southampton (H)
v Swansea City (A)
v Hull City (H)
v Manchester City (A)
v Tottenham Hotspur (A)
LDDLL
Staying up by a point in 16th on GD.
I can't see us winning or drawing any of these games. We'll finish the season on 34 points!
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v Southampton (H)
v Swansea City (A)
v Hull City (H)
v Manchester City (A)
v Tottenham Hotspur (A)
LDDLL
Staying up by a point in 16th on GD.
I can't see us winning or drawing any of these games. We'll finish the season on 34 points!
I agree unless we ditch Lambert and give a caretaker manager a go. Then we might have a chance of snatching the odd point.
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I don't think we'll survive on 34 points now. Think Fulham will surpass that and it would require one fluke win from Norwich to overtake us.
Even Cardiff after their shock win yesterday still have a chance and it's possible they could win two more games with their run in.
If we don't pick up a point soon it will go to the last day which will be horrible. We've been quite lucky given our struggles in the last few seasons that we've actually been safe going into the last day of seasons.
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When was the last time a premier league team lost all it's last 9 games?
v Southampton (H)
v Swansea City (A)
v Hull City (H)
v Manchester City (A)
v Tottenham Hotspur (A)
LDDLL
Staying up by a point in 16th on GD.
I can't see us winning or drawing any of these games. We'll finish the season on 34 points!
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At least Hull and Chelsea won today.
Yup, clutching at straws.
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Hull play us on May 3rd, they then have 2 more league games before the final on 17th May so dont think they will be resting players against us, we just have to hope their minds are elsewhere.
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When is the final btw? Have they moved it back to last game or is it on a premier league weekend?
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That truism put so pithily by Stu seems to clear away a lot of mystery. How can somebody who looks, sounds and acts like Paul Lambert have a master plan? Answer, he doesn't it's an experiment. He does look, sound and act like somebody who would experiment.
The question is; is it his or his boss's experiment?
It's his boss's. Lambert just couldn't turn down the chance to manage a club as big as the Villa.
He'll certainly never get another chance.
This is a guess, but buy on the cheap for few years, tread water and then hopefully we would be better financially to buy better players.... As said looks like Randy is no longer interested, I suppose the summer will tell.
It perhaps started out as a hobby for Lerner, but it is definitely solely a business now. He will not go down the road of big players/big wages. No chance.
O'Neill left because it was spelt out, General Krulak disappeared and Lerner no longer attends. Its over for the owner, he's selling (if he can)
...and judging by who he sold the Browns to, I get the impression he won't be too choosy about who he sells on to.
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Well the Browns he inherited from his father, and by the end he must have just been desperate for absolutely any way out. The Villa, though, are his personal project, from his early support during his university days. I think he cares about the club much more than people seem to think, and there's no way that he's on the take - he just makes a lot of very poor footballing decisions.
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When is the final btw? Have they moved it back to last game or is it on a premier league weekend?
17th of May
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When is the final btw? Have they moved it back to last game or is it on a premier league weekend?
17th of May
After the league season has finished for a change, like the old days.
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I think we will obtain 1 more point a draw either at SWansea or at home to Hull.
Baggies will get a win and will be the top team in the midlands....FFS ...Lambert prove me wrong!!!!
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Well the Browns he inherited from his father, and by the end he must have just been desperate for absolutely any way out. The Villa, though, are his personal project, from his early support during his university days. I think he cares about the club much more than people seem to think, and there's no way that he's on the take - he just makes a lot of very poor footballing decisions.
Yep, I hope you're right Montbert.
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I think we will obtain 1 more point a draw either at SWansea or at home to Hull.
Baggies will get a win and will be the top team in the midlands....FFS ...Lambert prove me wrong!!!!
That'll be Stoke City I think...
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I think we will obtain 1 more point a draw either at SWansea or at home to Hull.
Baggies will get a win and will be the top team in the midlands....FFS ...Lambert prove me wrong!!!!
Stoke are a major bogey side for Albion, Odemwingie to send them down on the last day would be wonderful, or worst case keep them below us so we are top west midlands team again.
That'll be Stoke City I think...
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DWDLW
42 points.
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Two draws, Hull and Swansea. Might just be enough. A heavy defeat at Man City might make the last day very interesting though. Way to close for comfort and this shit has to stop.
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Hull play us on May 3rd, they then have 2 more league games before the final on 17th May so dont think they will be resting players against us, we just have to hope their minds are elsewhere.
We just need to put in a few tasty tackles in the opening exchanges. I don't think too many Hull players will be take-it or leave-it about playing n the final.
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Crowd has turned on Lambert now as well:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/watch-moment-villa-fans-patience-6983814
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The Times this morning has us getting 38 points (where from I do not know!) with Fulham escaping on 36 points and Norwich going down.
I can't see 38 points but maybe we'll grab a dull draw v Hull and escape by the skin of our teeth and goal difference - mind you GD may be poor by then.
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Form changes very quickly down this end of the table. You beat Norwich and Chelsea, playing pretty well in the process. You then have Stoke, Man United, Fulham and Crystal Palace. What is going to happen?
It would be entirely disingenuous for somebody to say that they foresaw the form falling off a cliff post-Chelsea. Perhaps Saturday was a tipping point? They cannot just glide their way into the summer any longer, they need to pull a result from somewhere.
They are capable of it. We have seen it, even if Chelsea feels a long time ago. Southampton, shy of Newcastle, are probably the best opposition we could be playing. Mid-table, their best players fearing injury ahead of the biggest summer of their careers, stuttering form themselves. It's an opportunity, as is Swansea, as is Hull.
I don't think we will go down, but I would much rather we take charge of that by five o'clock on Saturday on 37 points and have it pretty much done and dusted, then wait on the likes of Fulham and Norwich to fail in order to secure survival.
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Form changes very quickly down this end of the table. You beat Norwich and Chelsea, playing pretty well in the process. You then have Stoke, Man United, Fulham and Crystal Palace. What is going to happen?
It would be entirely disingenuous for somebody to say that they foresaw the form falling off a cliff post-Chelsea. Perhaps Saturday was a tipping point? They cannot just glide their way into the summer any longer, they need to pull a result from somewhere.
They are capable of it. We have seen it, even if Chelsea feels a long time ago. Southampton, shy of Newcastle, are probably the best opposition we could be playing. Mid-table, their best players fearing injury ahead of the biggest summer of their careers, stuttering form themselves. It's an opportunity, as is Swansea, as is Hull.
I don't think we will go down, but I would much rather we take charge of that by five o'clock on Saturday on 37 points and have it pretty much done and dusted, then wait on the likes of Fulham and Norwich to fail in order to secure survival.
Agreed. No way do we want to go into the City and Spurs games needing a result. That could be disastrous.
If we scrape 2-4 points in the next 3 games, we're pretty much home and dry.
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Minimum of three wins there.
No problemo.
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If we beat Southampton and Spurs beat Fulham, then we will be safe. Fulham would have to win 3 out of 3 to stop up with us taking no more points.
We're on minus 14 goal difference, which is still 26 better than Fulham, as a good an indication as any needed to suggest they will go down.
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Hull getting to the FA Cup final has probably made that game the easiest one we have left this season.
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You more than likely correct and having looked to see that Fulham have them at home, that could be the result that may lead them to leap-frog Norwich.
Looking at Fulham's fixtures, I think they may get six points maximum from their two home games against Hull and Palace. Maybe Norwich will get a shock win at home, but if Liverpool muller them next week, it looks pretty ominous for them.
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We need one point, that's all. Norwich will lose their next three, but look who they've got last game...the flakiest bunch of tossers in the Prem. Arsenal with an upcoming cup final nothing to play for (assuming the Champs League situ is sorted by then) are fair game. We need that point so that even if Norwich beat Arsenal, we are safe. That's the crux of it as far as I'm concerned.
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The one game I can see us getting three points from is Swansea and maybe a point at home to Hull. I'm not overly confident about the rest mind.
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Southampton is the easiest game realistically. They are on the beach and without Rodriguez who has been essential to them, question is can we step up.
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Southampton is the easiest game realistically. They are on the beach and without Rodriguez who has been essential to them, question is can we step up.
The issue for me is goals. Can we keep a clean sheet? I'm not sure.
If that's the case, can we score at least two to win the game?
Again...I can't see where our goal is going to come from. I also can't see us keeping a clean sheet.
I would gladly take a point for this game.
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At home, we have to change things and really go for it in the 2 games. We need 1 win. Go 4-4-2, Holt and Weimann up front maybe (Gabby did nothing at Palace), Albrighton and maybe even Tonev wide, Delph and KEA in the middle and have a really good go at it. We are going to concede anyway so at least try and carry a good threat!
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At home, we have to change things and really go for it in the 2 games. We need 1 win. Go 4-4-2, Holt and Weimann up front maybe (Gabby did nothing at Palace), Albrighton and maybe even Tonev wide, Delph and KEA in the middle and have a really good go at it. We are going to concede anyway so at least try and carry a good threat!
He could have done any of that after 60 minutes on Saturday but he waited until they scored.
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At home, we have to change things and really go for it in the 2 games. We need 1 win. Go 4-4-2, Holt and Weimann up front maybe (Gabby did nothing at Palace), Albrighton and maybe even Tonev wide, Delph and KEA in the middle and have a really good go at it. We are going to concede anyway so at least try and carry a good threat!
Last year when we were in the shit the team did go for it just like the teams currently below us are doing. Agree with leaving Gabby out of the starting eleven, he is well out of form. We need to play our part too in getting us safe then we can carry on with the debate about what next.
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4 points and safety. Then I want some action over the summer!!
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Agree with leaving Gabby out of the starting eleven, he is well out of form. We need to play our part too in getting us safe then we can carry on with the debate about what next.
I read today that Martin Skirtel has scored more league goals this season (7) than Gabby and Weimann combined (6).
That is pretty poor.
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Yikes. That's a lot for a defender, but it's nothing for strikers.
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Hull will play Long and Jelavic as they are both cup tied and they have good scoring records against us.
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Long loves playing us.
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I did the prediction .
actually had us on 38 pts beating Hull , now If we dont beat Hull , it will be bloody horrible.
I have Norwich , Sunderland and Cardiff down. Hull just being ok.