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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Tuscans on March 15, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
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It might of already been posted so apologies if so but I thought I might give a shout out to our first team/ defensive coach, Scott Marshall.
When he joined the backroom staff I think the majority of us were like...Scott who? But I think it's fair to say that he has had a positive input and effect to our season when you think what a shambles at the back we were last season.
I guess Steve Bould at Arsenal has done similar things with the Gooners and it feels like another ex Arsenal defender is doing it at Villa too. We look a lot more organised and stubborn then last season and I think some of that might have something to do with Mr Marshall.
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The amount of times Chelsea strikers were caught offside was amazing.
Superb discipline and control today.
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Good call. I said during the match thread but I lost count how often we caught them offside. That's watching film on the opposition and identifying their tendencies and immense discipline from our players. Even Baker looks so much more solid now and along with Clark provides real competition to Vlaar and Okore.
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Good shout. We have been solid defensively this season. We certainly were not last season.
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We have been better defensively this season. I still think Okore will improve us further when he comes back and although I'm still to be fully convinced, Bacuna is starting to settle a bit at RB.
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The amount of times Chelsea strikers were caught offside was amazing.
I mentioned that during the game, especially the second half.
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Bakers been pretty solid recently. He's doing well to keep Clark out the side in fairness to him. We've generally been pretty solid this season when Vlaar has played. Marshall's clearly made a difference in conjunction with Ron's upturn in form.
I think come the end of the season Clark and Baker who'd you'd say were 3rd and 4th choice, will be a lot stronger going into next season. They wouldn't worry me as much going into next season as they did at the start of this. I also believe next season, should we lose Vlaar for a dozen games at some point, we'll be better equipped to cope. As for Okore, he's actually gonna have to do pretty well to dislodge anyone, so it'll be vital he has a good pre-season.
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I think we've done very well considering our back 5 costs about 6m, how many premier league back 5s cost as low as that, you'd probably have to go to the promoted teams.
Obviously it's very dependent on Ron being there. I think the stats are:
Without him playing: 14 goals conceded in 7 games.
With him: 24 goals conceded in 22 games.
Which says it all. Bertrand needs to be signed full time aswell if possible as then we have good pace in both full back positions which is so important in the prem nowadays.
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Assuming we sign Betrtrand we'll have him and Bennett on the left, Bacuna and Lowton on the right and Vlaar, Okore, Baker and Clark in the middle with Guzan and Steer in goal. Suppose the biggest doubt now is Steer because we haven't seen enough of him, but with these personnel in defense and Marshall as a coach things look good for concentrating our strengthening in midfield over the Summer.
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I can see Lowton leaving in the summer tbh for numerous reasons so I'd take someone like Russell Martin from Norwich especially if they go down as I imagine they won't be so petty and small time about selling to us then.
Someone who's experience in the prem, an international and can play CB or RB so ideal squad cover.
If we can't get Bertrand full time, I'd look at getting Neil Taylor in from Swansea. Can't get in there team, wouldn't cost a huge amount wages wise, good age and was linked with a 5m move the other day so realistic transfer fee.
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I also have a hunch that lowton will leave. I think that part of our current strategy is to buy cheap and sell at a profit. We might get £4-5m for lowton which would double/triple our investment without damaging the first team.
This would give us enough to buy a young reserve to Bacuna with okore also providing additional back up (I think he's played right back a bit).
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I hope we can bring someone in who's as effective at getting us to play possession football, or at least get us passing better than we have at times and not just have us relying on counter-attacking.
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I hope we can bring someone in who's as effective at getting us to play possession football, or at least get us passing better than we have at times and not just have us relying on counter-attacking.
I think okore may help with that. On that YouTube montage v Chelsea the best part for me was his passing once he'd won possession.
In fact Clark and Vlaar also look to pass. I think the fault is partly the midfield and particularly Westwood losing confidence this season and not making themselves available for the short passes from the defence.
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Baker has had a lot of stick this season, not from me incidentally, but he did well with that earlier foul on Willian. That knocked the stuffing out of him and, after his booking, he was suitably wound up for the ref to keep an eye on him. His sending off was dubious but the earlier winding up of him had the desired effect.
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I've not been a fan of Baker, but I'll be honest, that was really exciting stuff from the young lad. I said a while back that he has every attribute a CB needs to play at the top level except intelligence. I think playing alongside Vlaar is giving him knowledge, experience and confidence and he's come on leaps and bounds in recent weeks.
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I can see Lowton leaving in the summer tbh for numerous reasons so I'd take someone like Russell Martin from Norwich especially if they go down as I imagine they won't be so petty and small time about selling to us then.
Someone who's experience in the prem, an international and can play CB or RB so ideal squad cover.
If we can't get Bertrand full time, I'd look at getting Neil Taylor in from Swansea. Can't get in there team, wouldn't cost a huge amount wages wise, good age and was linked with a 5m move the other day so realistic transfer fee.
Agree with both suggestions there.
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Isn't it good looking at the league table seeing we've conceded 38 goals then looking at the teams above us and seeing Southampton conceding 37 goals, Spurs 38, Man. United 34, Arsenal 34 and Liverpool 38.
So that's defences assembled for millions and millions while ours cost just over 5m and yet we're roughly on a par with them. So refreshing after last season.
Infact aside from Man. United we're facing some of the lowest scorers in the league in the next few weeks so it could be even better. Imagine at the end of season having something like the 5th or 6th best defence in the league?!
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I guess Steve Bould at Arsenal has done similar things with the Gooners and it feels like another ex Arsenal defender is doing it at Villa too. We look a lot more organised and stubborn then last season and I think some of that might have something to do with Mr Marshall.
That made me laugh.
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Baker has done great, but Okore will improve us even more IMHO. I think Bacuna will end up in midfield, but there is a problem with Lowton and such a shame as he has potential and I am sure he will regret it in the long term.
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Isn't it good looking at the league table seeing we've conceded 38 goals then looking at the teams above us and seeing Southampton conceding 37 goals, Spurs 38, Man. United 34, Arsenal 34 and Liverpool 38.
So that's defences assembled for millions and millions while ours cost just over 5m and yet we're roughly on a par with them. So refreshing after last season.
Infact aside from Man. United we're facing some of the lowest scorers in the league in the next few weeks so it could be even better. Imagine at the end of season having something like the 5th or 6th best defence in the league?!
That was a good jinx post wasn't it, jeez!
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Must have had this week off....
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All four of the back four yesterday were awful. All made significant individual errors. Stoke obviously targeted Bacuna and I really don't get why Lambert has to continue playing the lad out of positoion and eschewing the benefits of a specialist right back in the form of Lowton.
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Must have had this week off....
To be honest I felt we lacked effort yesterday. I think the players really didn't show up, aside from Delph, Benteke and more so Albrighton. All that concentration and organisation we showed against Chelsea just flew out the window. It was as much as anything, very nonchalant. I don't think we gave Stoke the respect they deserve as a footballing side. If we'd played Chelsea only 3-4 days ago, I could have understood a bit of mental and physical exhaustion, but we've had a week off.
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All four of the back four yesterday were awful. All made significant individual errors. Stoke obviously targeted Bacuna and I really don't get why Lambert has to continue playing the lad out of positoion and eschewing the benefits of a specialist right back in the form of Lowton.
That said, in fairness he had a decent game against a good attacking Chelsea side. He just had an off day yesterday like the other 10..
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The problem is there are far too many off days.
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To be honest the defence were all over the place for much of the game against Norwich as well. Fortunately their finishing was as awful as their defending, or they could easily have had four as well.