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Title: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: go on the dog on February 21, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9177995/weekend-warm-up-paul-lambert
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
It's a little disturbing, not that he's inarticulate (that's fine enough), but how unclear any of his thinking he is. He's asked a question about the way we play, and he says how possession isn't everything then gets onto his kids being bored with his career in no time at all. It's like his mind is a skipping stone, skimming over the surface from issue to issue, never really going into the depth of anything. Until, of course, he ends up in a 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: OCD on February 21, 2014, 10:48:19 PM
Or it's bad editing/interview technique.

On possession, he did say that there has to be an end product and then used Barcelona/Bayern Munich as examples of such teams. Whereas someone like Swansea haven't been finding an end product enough. I agree with that point but I think he's too quick to dismiss possession football too often and that concerns me as I think that should be the starting point.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: silhillvilla on February 21, 2014, 10:51:30 PM
Not everyone can be Barcelona.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: OCD on February 21, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
True but not everybody has to be a Stoke either.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 21, 2014, 11:16:58 PM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 22, 2014, 09:06:36 AM
He's pretty coy when speaking to the media.  You'd struggle to find the sound bites from that interview to create a written story, in many ways the complete opposite of say Redknapp.  I hope he's more dynamic and forceful when speaking to the team and describing his vision to them.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: olaftab on February 22, 2014, 09:19:00 AM
I see another "Lambert is shit thread" is emerging.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Chris Smith on February 22, 2014, 09:39:36 AM
I see another "Lambert is shit thread" is emerging.

Yep, it's a well honed technique.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 22, 2014, 09:39:58 AM
That interview was entitled 'weekend warm up'. Managers have been called Mogadon for being so sleep inducing. The interview got off to a flying start when it was established that we are never going to win the league and will be trying to come mid table. He may have been referring to this season but I think that it reflects his overall ambition.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Concrete John on February 22, 2014, 09:42:42 AM
I don't think it's about ambition as much as the reality of the finances involved.  If he had said "We're going to take a run at the title next season" he'd be rightly laughed at, unless he finds a few hundred million or so down the back of the sofa.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 22, 2014, 09:45:19 AM
I don't think it's about ambition as much as the reality of the finances involved.  If he had said "We're going to take a run at the title next season" he'd be rightly laughed at, unless he finds a few hundred million or so down the back of the sofa.

I agree that he is on a hiding to nothing.  Just a pity he has to drone so much.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 22, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.  The way I heard it, was that "we aim to finish mid-table, and then higher" inferring that this season is mid-table and beyond that we aim a little bit higher, a little higher after that etc...

He's be daft to say anything else wouldn't he.

Similarly with the money question, he's hardly going to say, actually this summer we've got shed loads to spend.  It's not in his or the club's interest to do that unless he/the club are looking to falsely sell season tickets or whatever.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Rigadon on February 22, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Agreed, Dante.  But it's pretty difficult to be anything other than massively underwhelmed by our tilt at mid-table wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: caster troy on February 22, 2014, 10:28:10 AM
I'd be fine with mid table if we were middle on points, but sadly we are 4 points from the bottom 3 and 9 points off 9th. Not losing to lower league opposition in the cups every time would be a bonus too.

Back to the interview... dour and incomprehensible, just like his tactics.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 22, 2014, 11:10:41 AM
I'm not a massive fan of his current style of play and still don't know what has happened the style of play that won Norwich many plaudits.  However I've said it before and ill say it again, the implied brief for 'success' at the club nowadays is survival in the league.  Mid table is now seen as achievement so to that end he is successful.  Whether or not someone else would be capable of putting a better side together with the limitations of the wage structure, or, whether they could make these players play better is perhaps a more pertinent question.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: andyh on February 22, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
When he opens with "we are never going to win the league", does he mean this season, or ever?

There is a line between being realistic and being downright fucking dour!!!
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 22, 2014, 11:19:31 AM
When he opens with "we are never going to win the league", does he mean this season, or ever?

There is a line between being realistic and being downright fucking dour!!!

Well I retire in 2034 so there's always hope we might be able to compete by then but I'm sure people who were 20 years from retirement 10 years after the last FA Cup win would have been saying the same thing about that.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Mister E on February 22, 2014, 11:29:48 AM
He's pretty coy when speaking to the media.  You'd struggle to find the sound bites from that interview to create a written story, in many ways the complete opposite of say Redknapp.  I hope he's more dynamic and forceful when speaking to the team and describing his vision to them.
I think this is it.
Lambert is not an inarticulate numpty IMO; rather, I think he treats the media exposure with great caution and is not prepared to be 'caught out' by them. He probably is not prepared to say things that may come back to haunt either him or RL.

Am I being too charitable to him?
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: brian green on February 22, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
For somebody who does not want to say the wrong thing to the media he made a right  dog's Full English of his words about the FA Cup.   If that excruciating debacle is anything to go by he would be better off simply speaking freely.   I for one would not mind knowing a bit more about what is really going on at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 22, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.

Do you really take that much offence at it, though? The interview, I mean? I just watched it through, and to be honest, I don't see the big deal.

He was talking about possession but said you also need a cutting edge. That's surely one of the most obvious statements anyone could make about football? I don't really see how we can draw much from that other than just take it at face value.

The fact is, we're never, ever going to get any real insight of any true value from a standard interview with Sky Sports like that.

As for inarticulate, he sounded relatively cogent to me.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 22, 2014, 12:58:08 PM
I would sooner be listening to a Ron Atkinson interview.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Nev on February 22, 2014, 01:25:07 PM
One of Paul Franks pathetic and, frankly, unprofessional gripes about Lambert recently was the fact that he "mumbles" and sounds more Scottish than he did when he arrived at Villa.

I watched most of the interview and indeed it was dour, low key, rather neutral in approach and the polar opposite of what you would get from the likes of Big Ron.

He reminded me of Ron Saunders, who only came out with one truly memorable line from my recollection when he faced the media. And that goes to show that there is little to link a great personality with a successful football team.

I have plenty of complaints about Lambert and his interview style is all but bottom of the list.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: richard moore on February 22, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.

I didn't bother watching it because I knew that this is exactly what any of his incoherent utterings would make me feel. So thanks Chicago for confirming what I suspected. I completely agree, he's not very bright is he? As you say, the modern Aston Villa, depressing and boring, zero ambition, zero entertainment, zero hope
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 22, 2014, 02:00:41 PM
Making a judgment on something you couldn't be bothered to watch?
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 22, 2014, 02:17:37 PM
He reminded me of Ron Saunders, who only came out with one truly memorable line from my recollection when he faced the media.

That's bloody blasphemy, Nev. When Saunders spoke, we Villa fans knew exactly what he was saying, it was the media that didn't get it.

Lambert comes across as very comfortable and in no great rush. The most interesting thing he said or hinted at was again mentioning the plans that have been going on behind the scenes that will be of great future benefit to the club. Post match he generally talks bollocks but I think that was one of his better interviews, not that he said a great deal but understanding how he likes the pressure and wants to be at the club for the long haul gives the impression he's a man with a plan - at least away from the pitch.

If I wanted to get pissed off with him it was his comments about Newcastle and how their loyal fans rightly expect them to win at Sid James Park. Considering he currently has the worst home record in over 40 years at Villa Park makes his comment just a bit rich.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Ads on February 22, 2014, 02:20:47 PM
How can you completely agree with something when you haven't watched the video? I mean, there is no point in watching it as you have already formed an opinion anyway.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Slaphead on February 22, 2014, 02:45:20 PM
Making a judgment on something you couldn't be bothered to watch?

To be fair, I love watching people comment about Villa's performance when they didn't even watch the game live/on TV/stream or even MOTD.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 22, 2014, 03:44:56 PM
He reminded me of Ron Saunders, who only came out with one truly memorable line from my recollection when he faced the media.

That's bloody blasphemy, Nev. When Saunders spoke, we Villa fans knew exactly what he was saying, it was the media that didn't get it.

Lambert comes across as very comfortable and in no great rush. The most interesting thing he said or hinted at was again mentioning the plans that have been going on behind the scenes that will be of great future benefit to the club. Post match he generally talks bollocks but I think that was one of his better interviews, not that he said a great deal but understanding how he likes the pressure and wants to be at the club for the long haul gives the impression he's a man with a plan - at least away from the pitch.

If I wanted to get pissed off with him it was his comments about Newcastle and how their loyal fans rightly expect them to win at Sid James Park. Considering he currently has the worst home record in over 40 years at Villa Park makes his comment just a bit rich.

but I also thinks the same of us too and they we expect us to win. The fact that he hasn't been able to solve it is a problem, but the statement itself is accurate.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: eastie on February 22, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
I'd be fine with mid table if we were middle on points, but sadly we are 4 points from the bottom 3 and 9 points off 9th. Not losing to lower league opposition in the cups every time would be a bonus too.

Back to the interview... dour and incomprehensible, just like his tactics.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on February 22, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
Did I click on the right link? seemed perfectly understandable to me and spoke a lot of sense. Finish as high as we can, mid table or higher what is wrong with that? After last season refreshing the league table every five minutes on a weekend and looking at other teams fixture lists I would be happy with midtable and keeping above the line from now untill the end of this season.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 22, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
I'd be fine with mid table if we were middle on points, but sadly we are 4 points from the bottom 3 and 9 points off 9th. Not losing to lower league opposition in the cups every time would be a bonus too.

Back to the interview... dour and incomprehensible, just like his tactics.

Chelsea are top with 60. Half of 60 is 30 and if we win our game tomorrow we'd be on 31. That would be pretty much middle on points and actually mid table sitting in 11th. So you will be fine by your definition.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 22, 2014, 06:29:51 PM
I'd be fine with mid table if we were middle on points, but sadly we are 4 points from the bottom 3 and 9 points off 9th. Not losing to lower league opposition in the cups every time would be a bonus too.

Back to the interview... dour and incomprehensible, just like his tactics.

Chelsea are top with 60. Half of 60 is 30 and if we win our game tomorrow we'd be on 31. That would be pretty much middle on points and actually mid table sitting in 11th. So you will be fine by your definition.

Indeed.

What could possibly go wrong with that suggested course of events?



*wink*
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on February 22, 2014, 09:38:54 PM
Did I click on the right link? seemed perfectly understandable to me and spoke a lot of sense. Finish as high as we can, mid table or higher what is wrong with that? After last season refreshing the league table every five minutes on a weekend and looking at other teams fixture lists I would be happy with midtable and keeping above the line from now untill the end of this season.

Don't be ridiculous. He spoke, therefore it's a good opportunity to rip him to shreds.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: villan from luton on February 22, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
Ron Saunders never talked more than he needed to the press, wasnt exactly a laugh a minute like big Ron. However, he knew what he was doing, though there were many fans in 78/79 and 79/80 on his back. I dont have a problem with the way Lambert comes across with the press, my problem is whether he puts his points across to the players.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 22, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.


Do you really take that much offence at it, though? The interview, I mean? I just watched it through, and to be honest, I don't see the big deal.

He was talking about possession but said you also need a cutting edge. That's surely one of the most obvious statements anyone could make about football? I don't really see how we can draw much from that other than just take it at face value.

The fact is, we're never, ever going to get any real insight of any true value from a standard interview with Sky Sports like that.

As for inarticulate, he sounded relatively cogent to me.
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 22, 2014, 10:58:24 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 22, 2014, 11:08:34 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.
I think I said most of it was incoherent mumbling, yes I did manage to work out that he is not very bright.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 22, 2014, 11:12:57 PM
Ron Saunders never talked more than he needed to the press, wasnt exactly a laugh a minute like big Ron. However, he knew what he was doing, though there were many fans in 78/79 and 79/80 on his back. I dont have a problem with the way Lambert comes across with the press, my problem is whether he puts his points across to the players.

Agree with everything except his post match interviews where he has a special talent of speaking out his arse.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: villan from luton on February 22, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Fair comment Rudy Lambert, but I cant recall Sir Ron slagging off players in the press and he was in a far better position than Lambert other than 75/76.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 22, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.

You are being cantankerous as usual. Chicago Lion has it spot on.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 22, 2014, 11:20:53 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.

You are being cantankerous as usual. Chicago Lion has it spot on.
Clappy Thingy- Cheers DC5
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 22, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.

You are being cantankerous as usual. Chicago Lion has it spot on.

However what I'm not doing is resorting to personal insults. Perhaps you could show the same courtesy?

My point being that saying Lambert 'can't string an intelligible sentence together', then going on to disassemble everything he said seems to me to be a contradiction.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 22, 2014, 11:37:31 PM
Sorry, Chicago Lion obviously just speaks as he finds. I can't fault him. You made no point, other than preaching the views of the little group who are getting very boring.

I did make a point, it's in the post above.

I have no intention of carrying this on any further. If you want to start throwing insults and labeling groups of people who happen to disagree with you, play by yourself. I'm not biting.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 22, 2014, 11:41:08 PM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.

You are being cantankerous as usual. Chicago Lion has it spot on.

However what I'm not doing is resorting to personal insults. Perhaps you could show the same courtesy?

My point being that saying Lambert 'can't string an intelligible sentence together', then going on to disassemble everything he said seems to me to be a contradiction.
Sorry, Chicago Lion obviously just speaks as he finds. I can't fault him. You made no point, other than preaching the views of the little group who are getting very boring.

I did make a point, it's in the post above.

I have no intention of carrying this on any further. If you want to start throwing insults and labeling groups of people who happen to disagree with you, play by yourself. I'm not biting.


I'm not biting, just saying that you are cantankerous.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: villan from luton on February 22, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
These posts sound like a VT one, what a shame. Just talk football and no hissy fits
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 23, 2014, 12:02:34 AM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.


Do you really take that much offence at it, though? The interview, I mean? I just watched it through, and to be honest, I don't see the big deal.

He was talking about possession but said you also need a cutting edge. That's surely one of the most obvious statements anyone could make about football? I don't really see how we can draw much from that other than just take it at face value.

The fact is, we're never, ever going to get any real insight of any true value from a standard interview with Sky Sports like that.

As for inarticulate, he sounded relatively cogent to me.
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

I didn't think it was incoherent mumbling. That's just the way he is. That's the way he sounded in his Norwich press interviews, too.

Honestly, I am as disappointed with him this season as anyone is, I hate this shit he has us playing, but I really do think that we're at the point where if he went on Desert Island Discs and picked 8 Villa songs, one of Woodhall's books and an Aston Villa bath towel as his luxury item, some people would be moaning he sounded a bit too Scottish, or wasn't perky enough or sounded like he didn't "get" the club.
 
I don't understand why moaning about the ample supply of utter dog shit on the pitch, or the lack of ambition shown by our actual transfer dealings isn't enough, and people feel they have to start to have a pop at him because he's a bit too mumbly for their liking, or he's got a funny Scottish accent or something.

It just sounds - and I'm sure you really believe this stuff, so forgive me if this sounds condescending, it's not meant to - like some people have an absolute determination to find something to complain about in every single thing that he does.

Like I said, to me, it sounded like every single other utterly unremarkable press junket I've seen him do in the last 18 months, including the ones when we were playing well.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on February 23, 2014, 07:59:09 AM
I've repeated this several times, so forgive me. The reason that our ambition this season are to survive is because for the last three seasons we've been absolutely bobbins. Next season the aim will be higher. I hardly think that we'll be aiming at 17th place forever more.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave on February 23, 2014, 08:04:06 AM
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

For something that was just 'incoherent mumbling', you seem to have understood it well enough to comment on what he said.

You are being cantankerous as usual. Chicago Lion has it spot on.

However what I'm not doing is resorting to personal insults. Perhaps you could show the same courtesy?

My point being that saying Lambert 'can't string an intelligible sentence together', then going on to disassemble everything he said seems to me to be a contradiction.
Sorry, Chicago Lion obviously just speaks as he finds. I can't fault him. You made no point, other than preaching the views of the little group who are getting very boring.

I did make a point, it's in the post above.

I have no intention of carrying this on any further. If you want to start throwing insults and labeling groups of people who happen to disagree with you, play by yourself. I'm not biting.


I'm not biting, just saying that you are cantankerous.
If you disagree with him then say so, but leave the personal stuff out of it.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: brian green on February 23, 2014, 08:52:31 AM
The unanswered question for me is why was he so much better at Norwich than he has been with us.  ALL of the personal criticism of him apart he has been a poor Villa manager.

I have some quite good connections at Norwich and it has been suggested that his divorce hit him very hard.   Perhaps he is an unhappy man.

I see no point in replacing him because our malaise is higher up the pecking order and I don't trust them to find anybody better.   Sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2014, 09:26:24 AM
I'm not biting, just saying that you are cantankerous.
If you disagree with him then say so, but leave the personal stuff out of it.
I don't see how saying "being cantankerous" is a personal insult? It's just saying being argumentative and as it is a debate it's a valid disagreeable state.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Cooper please on February 23, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
Did I click on the right link? seemed perfectly understandable to me and spoke a lot of sense. Finish as high as we can, mid table or higher what is wrong with that? After last season refreshing the league table every five minutes on a weekend and looking at other teams fixture lists I would be happy with midtable and keeping above the line from now untill the end of this season.

No no no, don't you understand that everything is shit at The Villa at the moment, therefore everything that Lambert days is shit, even when it isn't.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: not3bad on February 23, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
He's pretty coy when speaking to the media.  You'd struggle to find the sound bites from that interview to create a written story, in many ways the complete opposite of say Redknapp.  I hope he's more dynamic and forceful when speaking to the team and describing his vision to them.
I think this is it.
Lambert is not an inarticulate numpty IMO; rather, I think he treats the media exposure with great caution and is not prepared to be 'caught out' by them. He probably is not prepared to say things that may come back to haunt either him or RL.

Am I being too charitable to him?

No.  Lambert already had this reputation when he came to Villa and he's simply being what we already knew he would be like.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: peter w on February 23, 2014, 01:17:57 PM
So, hands up anyone who didn't say to friends/mates/ colleagues at the start of this season that we'd 'like' be 'aiming for' mid-table. Because I'd probably be on safe ground to say just about everybody. So why now criticise Lambert for saying it? We know and he knows exactly where we were and what we now need to achieve as a minimum this season.

But were we expecting a Newcastle/Southampton style 'worst of the best' and fall into 9th or 10th or that we would be scrapping for points and finishing as best of the worst? It would be nicer if we were 5 or 6 points better off but as poor as we have been we're still looking up more than down. Although clearly down is getting closer. But a win somewhere soon changes all that again. We've got ourselves into a position of needing to find about 4 more wins. We should manage that however poor we've been.

Get there and we will have progressed as a team from last season. Then, we'll look to consolidate and move forward the next season. mess it up spectacularly then Lambert goes anyway. As it is let's see how it plays out. When I begin to panic you know that the doom and gloom will pour out.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: brian green on February 23, 2014, 03:25:08 PM
How would you define "spectacularly" Peter?   Escape relegation by goal difference on the last day? Relegation? Relegation and still losing games in the Championship? What do you regard as the level to which we have to sink before we should doubt Lambert's ability?   Not being sarcastic, just a one-fan-to -another question.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: richard moore on February 23, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
Thick as you know what as ever. He really is such a thick individual
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: martin o`who?? on February 23, 2014, 03:33:00 PM
Right now, the only interview with Lambert i want to see is the one after his dismissal.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Irish villain on February 23, 2014, 03:33:58 PM
Sack him now.

Newcastle were there for the taking. It was so obvious we could win that and he just killed our momentum.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: richard moore on February 23, 2014, 03:47:12 PM
Did I click on the right link? seemed perfectly understandable to me and spoke a lot of sense. Finish as high as we can, mid table or higher what is wrong with that? After last season refreshing the league table every five minutes on a weekend and looking at other teams fixture lists I would be happy with midtable and keeping above the line from now untill the end of this season.

No no no, don't you understand that everything is shit at The Villa at the moment, therefore everything that Lambert days is shit, even when it isn't.


You're absolutely spot on! Actually, it's worse than shit. The man is a colossal twat as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
What uninspiring inarticulate crap. He cant string an intelligible sentence together. No vision, he actually said "mid table or a little bit higher"

His team and tactics reflect his personality and character. Not very bright and totally lacking any excitement..

He is safe in the mediocrity bubble with Lerner and Faulkner. If ever there was evidence to show why these people should not be running this club, this interview demonstrated this perfectly.
The modern Aston Villa, no ambition and zero entertainment.


Do you really take that much offence at it, though? The interview, I mean? I just watched it through, and to be honest, I don't see the big deal.

He was talking about possession but said you also need a cutting edge. That's surely one of the most obvious statements anyone could make about football? I don't really see how we can draw much from that other than just take it at face value.

The fact is, we're never, ever going to get any real insight of any true value from a standard interview with Sky Sports like that.

As for inarticulate, he sounded relatively cogent to me.
Not offence as such, it just confirmed what a lot of us have suspected. The ambition of the Club is not to get relegated, that is it. So are Everton a club with similar resources giving up on trying to get into the top 6 or even higher? Most of it was incoherent mumbling, rarely do we get to hear anything from the club in terms of plans or strategy so when the Manager gets the opportunity to communicate with the outside world you would just hope that it was a bit more inspiring than we have thrown in the towel. The bloke is a dud.

I didn't think it was incoherent mumbling. That's just the way he is. That's the way he sounded in his Norwich press interviews, too.

Honestly, I am as disappointed with him this season as anyone is, I hate this shit he has us playing, but I really do think that we're at the point where if he went on Desert Island Discs and picked 8 Villa songs, one of Woodhall's books and an Aston Villa bath towel as his luxury item, some people would be moaning he sounded a bit too Scottish, or wasn't perky enough or sounded like he didn't "get" the club.
 
I don't understand why moaning about the ample supply of utter dog shit on the pitch, or the lack of ambition shown by our actual transfer dealings isn't enough, and people feel they have to start to have a pop at him because he's a bit too mumbly for their liking, or he's got a funny Scottish accent or something.

It just sounds - and I'm sure you really believe this stuff, so forgive me if this sounds condescending, it's not meant to - like some people have an absolute determination to find something to complain about in every single thing that he does.

Like I said, to me, it sounded like every single other utterly unremarkable press junket I've seen him do in the last 18 months, including the ones when we were playing well.
You might be right, maybe  its just his way of communicating, for me the whole demeanour and poor use of language just confirms my view, in that he is not very bright and is like lots of other ex footballers that become managers. The more I hear and see him the more I want him out of our club.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: aj2k77 on February 23, 2014, 05:03:06 PM
He is as dour as the sides he puts out.

A bit of charisma and something to get us fired up wouldn't go amiss down Villa Park these days.

With this manager, set of players and chairman dare I say everything is VERY Boring.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 23, 2014, 05:30:16 PM

Newcastle were there for the taking. It was so obvious we could win that and he just killed our momentum.

Even the Newcastle fans said that.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2014, 05:35:48 PM
we are a mirror of our manager,dull ,boring and no imagination
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 23, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Thick as you know what as ever. He really is such a thick individual

#snigger#
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: richard moore on February 23, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
Thick as you know what as ever. He really is such a thick individual

#snigger#

Well, I'm not really proud to say things like that. But he/it/them have driven me to it. I've had it up to here, I am so disheartened, so angry, so saddened by it all and you feel so hopeless and powerless to do anything. I could honestly weep at the frustration of it all and how impotent one is to effect any sort of change or improvement
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: the hole in the wall on February 27, 2014, 08:46:52 PM
where do i start?? no ambition no passon..total shambels... worse board since the 60s era of normansel.....if we get relegated an i beleive we will.....then we could tumble down the leagues aka portsmouth...GO LERNER PLEASE GO..youv played with your toy and now christmas has gone youv lost interest.Faulkners a joke and Lamberts your puppy.. thing is Lambert will be succesful elsewhere with the right backing....breaks my heart to see how we have fallen.....
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: SamTheMouse on February 27, 2014, 09:26:40 PM
I couldn't care less if he mumbles, and I couldn't care less if his interviews are dull or if he sounds uninspiring.

All I care about is how the team plays.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: exigo on February 27, 2014, 09:42:05 PM
I couldn't care less if he mumbles, and I couldn't care less if his interviews are dull or if he sounds uninspiring.

All I care about is how the team plays.

Nope, can't make that scan into the chant.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 27, 2014, 09:44:49 PM
I couldn't care less if he mumbles, and I couldn't care less if his interviews are dull or if he sounds uninspiring.

All I care about is how the team plays.

Nope, can't make that scan into the chant.

I don't care if he mumbles
I don't care if he's dull
All I care about
Is how the team plays

It does have potential!
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: exigo on February 27, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
I couldn't care less if he mumbles, and I couldn't care less if his interviews are dull or if he sounds uninspiring.

All I care about is how the team plays.

Nope, can't make that scan into the chant.

I don't care if he mumbles
I don't care if he's dull
All I care about
Is how the team plays

It does have potential!

I don't care if he mumbles
I don't care who he plays
All I care about
Is winning some games
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: richard moore on February 28, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
I couldn't care less if he mumbles, and I couldn't care less if his interviews are dull or if he sounds uninspiring.

All I care about is how the team plays.

But might you be able to see a connection? Because it's as clear as the f*****g clouds in the sky to me
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: supertom on February 28, 2014, 10:53:25 AM
I remember one game the camera showed Lambert talking in Bacuna's ear just before he was sent on as a substitute. I found it quite amusing that by the look on Bacuna's face, he had absolutely no idea what Lambert was going on about. And that's not a slight on Bacuna's English at all.
Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 28, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
I know that El Amhadi can't understand Lambert - bit worrying when players can't understand their manager !

Title: Re: Paul Lambert Interview from Sky today
Post by: Smirker on February 28, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
I don't care if he mumbles
I don't care who he plays
All I care about
Is winning some games

I like it a lot.  ;D
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