Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on February 04, 2014, 11:57:42 AM
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There's a new H&V out on Saturday. Make the most of it, as it's almost certain that the paper version will be ending this season.
From August we'll be transferring to digital-only, and staying dry in the process. This means more issues per season, more pages per issue and more up to date as we don't have to work round fixtures. The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't. We're looking at the idea of doing two Best Ofs every season as paper versions on sale at the ground for anyone who hasn't got digital access but more news on them nearer the time.
We'll be in touch with existing subscribers towards the end of the season to see how they want to continue.
Redundancy packages are being negotiated with sellers and if you've not seen it, here's where you can get the app https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/heroes-villains-villa-fanzine/id626720195?mt=8
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It's the thin end of the wedge I tell you!
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Have been with the online issues all season and very happy with the process - extremely good value too.
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A bit sad to see the end of the printed version.
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Even if I wasn't a seller I'd agree with SH. For as long as I can remember the shouts of sellers are synonymous with a match day. And the amount of comments from folks walking by in my short time selling confirm a lot of supporters are the same.
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A bit sad to see the end of the printed version.
So am I but you can't uninvent the wheel and 25 years is a long time to be looking at weather forecasts all week.
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Echo PWS and SH's comments. It'll be sad to see the printed version go.
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Sadly a sign of the times, I used to love the sports argus and h&v to read on a Saturday night after the match - but it is a very easy process online and downloads in less than a minute.
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End of an era...
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are you convinced this is the right decision? Not sure this internet thingy will really catch on ;D
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This is a huge blow to me. I enjoy reading it in the bath!
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When we're crap I enjoy reading it during the game!
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This is a huge blow to me. I enjoy reading it in the bath!
Buy a villa rubber duck in the villa shop sale ;)
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Always just bought it on match days. Guess I'll have to subscribe now.
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im awd fashioned. I like having the paper version which i can read at the game. I think its a great piece and will miss that version
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Gutted. It's often better entertainment at home games than the match itself.
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No more
"Is it the programme"
"Them all bloody Villains"
"Where is the Holtey End" Usually against Man Ure or other glory hunting team [they actually said Holtey End!] My reply is usually along the line of "Same place is was againt Hull"
"Where is the North End" to which the answer was always "Preston"
After a purchase: "This isn't the programme!" answer: "I never said it was"
"Who's playing today?" Like the manager calls me in advance to let me know
Glory hunter: "whats that?"
Me: "A fanzine"
Glory Hunter: "Whats that?"
Me: "Its like a programme just better"
Glory Hunter: "So its the programme?"
Me "Thats £2 please"
Glory Hunter: "Thats cheap for a programme"
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Isn't this the sort of thing Randy could subsidise?
Get my coat
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Like the Sports Argus, Heroes and Villains fanzine was a great thing to bring back from the match. I like tactile things which you don't need a plug for, I will always buy books not kindles. So, like may here will be upset to see the fanzine go.
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Any chance of a Blackberry 10 app Dave?
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You have to buy it on iTunes?! That's like a cross to a vampire for me. I buy all my apps in the Google Play Store.
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You have to buy it on iTunes?! That's like a cross to a vampire for me. I buy all my apps in the Google Play Store.
You can get it on kindle fire too on amazon.
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I think that, for at least a season, sellers should stand in their normal spots and yell out that H&V is now available online.
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In other news....shares in "Villa Times" have reached an all time high.
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I think that, for at least a season, sellers should stand in their normal spots and yell out that H&V is now available online.
They could sell friendship scarfs instead.
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Huge shame, to be honest I think you'll see a large decline in readers, I mainly buy the paper version as something to read at half time and to have handy by the toilet for when I'm stuck in there for a while.
I get that it's a pain in the arse to stand outside selling though, so fair play and good luck to you.
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Be nice if some of you come and said hello while we are still selling. Always nice to put faces to names. So don't be shy!
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I'm gutted to be honest, it's part of the matchday experience for me and I enjoy reading the paper version. I'll certainly be sad to see it go.
As an aside I'm even more determined now to get editions 99 and 127 to complete my collection so if anyone has either...
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I think that, for at least a season, sellers should stand in their normal spots and yell out that H&V is now available online.
Perhaps a reunion of all the previous sellors and do funeral march along Trinity Road holding the last ever issue on our shoulders
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I'm gutted to be honest, it's part of the matchday experience for me and I enjoy reading the paper version. I'll certainly be sad to see it go.
As an aside I'm even more determined now to get editions 99 and 127 to complete my collection so if anyone has either...
I have loads in my collection from the start in the shed - I will have a look for you tonight.
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The candlelight vigil has already started at H&V Towers.
(http://blogwillis.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/VirginiaTech-candlelight-vigil.jpg)
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I'm gutted to be honest, it's part of the matchday experience for me and I enjoy reading the paper version. I'll certainly be sad to see it go.
As an aside I'm even more determined now to get editions 99 and 127 to complete my collection so if anyone has either...
I have loads in my collection from the start in the shed - I will have a look for you tonight.
Much appreciated Eastie, thanks
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*insert name of frequent poster and fanzine reader* hasn't taken it at all well
*insert photo of that monk setting himself on fire to protest the Vietnam War*
Post censored so as not to offend anyone.
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Sacked by text AND pimps his son into the business. Are you sure you actually aren't Paul Ince?
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When I was selling one of my regular customers bought my new born son his first ever Villa kit
When he had heard my son had been born he wondered over to me and gave it to me [he had just bought it from the club shop], didnt ask for a penny for it
Apart form the cold and wet, I loved selling H&V
In front of the old Trinity Road stand on an evening match was something special.
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I can only echo what Percy said. I've met some great friends, even more great people, had some amazing times and been absolutely staggered by the loyalty and goodwill I've received. I've called in more favours than I've had the right to enjoy, had incredible responses and been genuinely touched so many times. But all good things come to an end and after 25 years it's time to do something new. We're not going away, we're just moving in a different direction and to re-iterate, there will probably be a couple of 'proper' round-ups of what's online each season.
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
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I can only echo what Percy said. I've met some great friends, even more great people, had some amazing times and been absolutely staggered by the loyalty and goodwill I've received. I've called in more favours than I've had the right to enjoy, had incredible responses and been genuinely touched so many times. But all good things come to an end and after 25 years it's time to do something new. We're not going away, we're just moving in a different direction and to re-iterate, there will probably be a couple of 'proper' round-ups of what's online each season.
Thanks for all you have done in the fanzine in the past dave , you have put a lot of time into it and it very much appreciated by all the readers down the years I'm sure .
Here's to the next 25 years online !
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Not a fan of this news, I like to have a copy in my hand to read during half time and my phone battery and connection are crap enough already.
Again thanks for all your efforts but I'm disappointed at this announcement. I'll probably have to read the bloody programme during lulls in play now!
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Oh and thanks to all the sellers who've stood in rain and snow and put up with idiots like me fumbling for change for years. On the brightside they'll have no excuse not to attend the pub before and after the game now!
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
I hope it would be more like "If you have been affected by the issues in this thread, call..."
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Oh and thanks to all the sellers who've stood in rain and snow and put up with idiots like me fumbling for change for years. On the brightside they'll have no excuse not to attend the pub before and after the game now!
Poor buggers in the Bartons might start seeing me more often! They'll start a petition to get Dave to keep me on the streets!
Edit: I could probably have worded that last bit a bit better.
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Talking of the Bartons it's a Saturday 3pm kick-off! Feels like ages since I've been there (no point going on a weekday as it shuts at about 10.30pm).
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I can only echo what Percy said. I've met some great friends, even more great people, had some amazing times and been absolutely staggered by the loyalty and goodwill I've received. I've called in more favours than I've had the right to enjoy, had incredible responses and been genuinely touched so many times. But all good things come to an end and after 25 years it's time to do something new. We're not going away, we're just moving in a different direction and to re-iterate, there will probably be a couple of 'proper' round-ups of what's online each season.
Thanks for all you have done in the fanzine in the past dave , you have put a lot of time into it and it very much appreciated by all the readers down the years I'm sure .
Once more with feeling (to quote Joan A).
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Or for older viewers, this would be the Paul McCartney and Wings "slowie" version of the Crossroads theme tune....
Seriously, I'll miss Dave frog-marching me to the nearest cashpoint machine to withdraw the money for his latest tome
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sad to hear, but as I have a kindle HD should not be a problem...oh and many thanks to all those concerned in the putting together of a great read and of course the sellers.
UTV
The Doc
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A bit sad to see the paper version go. When I first started going down the Villa my old man always would buy a heroes and villains and anything else going, be it a witton wisdom or a missing Sid. If we ever missed an issue there was some magazine shop in town, where the Tony Hancock sculpture is now that would stock back issues, only a few mind.
We'd love reading the letters part as back then there obviouly was no internet and forums so it was left to letters pages and chats in the pub to run the rule over Villa matters.
Anyway, thanks Dave and anyone down the years who have put the time and effort in making the fanzine because they have been and still are bloody brilliant.
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
I think we should ask the club to erect a bench in honour of the Dave W and the clan of sellers.
Like Arthur Fowler had at the allotment.
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Sad news after recently formally introducing myself to Dave and Legion. Will try and get round to at least one of you others before the season's out.
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
I think we should ask the club to erect a bench in honour of the Dave W and the clan of sellers.
Like Arthur Fowler had at the allotment.
If McGregor can have a statue, I don't see why Dave can't have one on the corner...
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Congrats and thanks to Dave and all involved in H&V. As an infrequent visitor to VP it was one of the first things I would buy.
Looks like I will now have to get a sub for the kindle.
Here's to the next 25 years
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
With a slot in the head so that we can continue to make donations.
EDIT: Me being a dunce again, I really should take more care - this was meant to go on the post suggesting a statue.
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You have to buy it on iTunes?! That's like a cross to a vampire for me. I buy all my apps in the Google Play Store.
You can get it on kindle fire too on amazon.
Ah, ta.
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
I think we should ask the club to erect a bench in honour of the Dave W and the clan of sellers.
Like Arthur Fowler had at the allotment.
I think an erection in honour of dave would be going too far .
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I will miss it a lot
I still have most copies somewhere.
A big thank you to all the sellers
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If this was an episode of Eastenders it would end with the piano version of the theme tune rather that the standard one.
Surely it would involve Dave having one last look at his selling spot, before getting into a black cab and driving away.
I think we should ask the club to erect a bench in honour of the Dave W and the clan of sellers.
Like Arthur Fowler had at the allotment.
The club would probably have a picture of Dave on their website....in a Baggies shirt!
but thanks to all of the sellers in the past who have stood outside in all kinds of weather. Proper Aston Villa supporters.
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If McGregor can have a statue, I don't see why Dave can't have one on the corner...
Under the awning of the souvenir stall.
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No more donations to be left care of the Manager in The Barton Arms then?
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Totally gutted.
This is going to affect me like andy gray being sold
Perry man kicking the ball off the line in 1970
Cropley being crippled
Holte end being demolished
Etc etc etc etc
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Shame to hear this, while the last few years my match attendances have gone down, it was always part of the prematch ritual, walk to the ground from either where the car was parked or train station, go to the burger van on the left hand side of the road as you approach the overpass and see the magnificent Holte, eat burger, fumble for change to buy H&V off nearest sellar who would normally be just pass the badge people on the left hand side, buy programme, fumble for ticket to get through the stiles, take seat and read H&V before the match, at half time and then finish reading on the way home. I guess I can order online now but did like to buy in person but thank you sellars for providing such a wonderful peace of reading and hopefully long may it continue for another 20 odd years.
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Always keep it by the shi**er for a session in the bog!
Suppose I'll have to buy a printer now!
Bastards!
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UTV"
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Terrace standing, tobacco smoke, local players, constant singing, nearby pubs and the cry of "Heroes N Villains The Villa Fanzine". And some hope of winning a trophy. Not long until they ban the cooking of onions along the walk to the stadium and then there will be no atmosphere at all.
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Dave, l'd like to wish you, and everyone connected with 'Heroes and Villains', the greatest success with this.
Never look back.
Onwards and upwards.
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This is a huge blow to me. I enjoy reading it in the bath!
That's one issue taken care of in the season. Where do you read the others?
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Terrible news. I blame Eddie Shah.
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Thinking of perfect match days, does this also mean that the Sparkhill Balti house menus under the glass tabletops will soon be replaced by a digital display at eye level?
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Dave can fuck right off. His offer of a free online version counts for shite. I am phobic at tehcnology.
One free, on an iPad id so not own? He can kiss my arse.
And bollocks to the the people selling it. Ooooh, stand in the cold but make 80 quid from a new edition when you wrote fucking none of it.
You can all suck my Cheesy Great Hampton and stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you workshy ******!
This post was brought to you in association with four pints, a very long call with the editor last night when he asked for even more articles, and I missed the Beeb programme on World War 1 whilst he took the piss about Chelsea's lack of possession.
Well, no more. Balls to you all. I am taking this up as a profession rather than freebies round here.
Gags aside, I am available for various paper copies we have left, and from years ago, in the Bartons from Saturday until season end.
And we have some book ideas. And we can't do those on the net...
We may be half gone. We are not forgotten.
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I guess I will have to talk to my brother at half time now. I will miss it. Can somebody explain to a ludite how I get it on my kindle.
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Can we expect an all time 'best of' bumper edition for the final edition of the season then?
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It's sad to see the paper version go, I still get a child-like thrill from seeing my name in print, but moving with the times is what has kept the club near, if not at, the top (at least relatively). We need to do the same I guess.
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Dave can fuck right off. His offer of a free online version counts for shite. I am phobic at tehcnology.
One free, on an iPad id so not own? He can kiss my arse.
And bollocks to the the people selling it. Ooooh, stand in the cold but make 80 quid from a new edition when you wrote fucking none of it.
You can all suck my Cheesy Great Hampton and stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you workshy c***s!
This post was brought to you in association with four pints, a very long call with the editor last night when he asked for even more articles, and I missed the Beeb programme on World War 1 whilst he took the piss about Chelsea's lack of possession.
Well, no more. Balls to you all. I am taking this up as a profession rather than freebies round here.
Gags aside, I am available for various paper copies we have left, and from years ago, in the Bartons from Saturday until season end.
And we have some book ideas. And we can't do those on the net...
We may be half gone. We are not forgotten.
Hear hear chelts!
You speak for the silent majority!
Let's take up the cause!
Make banners! Compose protest songs! Firebomb DW's house! Cut off bits of his family's bodies and send them through the post!
If this is a conspiracy I'd better pm you hadn't I?
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I've just text my cousin and broke the news to him. He says his number two's just won't be the same.
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We'll all remember where we were when we heard the news.
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I imagine it will be strange for the long-serving stalwarts like Dave, Percy (and Mac, wherever he is these days) to have their match ritual completely changed forever but I'm sure it will also mean life being a bit less of a pain in the arse.
Maybe it's a good opportunity to digitise the back-issues or some sort of project where old and new can be found easily in one place. Not sure how prohibitive the cost and time would be on that but it would help maintain the legend of selling H&V for twenty five years and counting.
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Gutted.
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So does more mean I can finally charge a fee for what I write?
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Shame - had the paper ones since issue 3, feels like part of me has died...
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Boooo! Being a boring old fart I like the physical medium of paper rather than electronic versions of reading material. Could never read a book on Kindle or similar - just doesn't feel right. And, as others have said, the shouts of 'Heroes & Villains The Villa Fanzine Brand New Issue' will be missed on match days. End of an era but sign of the times
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We'll all remember where we were when we heard the news.
Ha. All so that Dave does not have to stand in the rain and cold on a grassy knoll at the edge of Aston Hall park.
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I'm gutted to be honest, it's part of the matchday experience for me and I enjoy reading the paper version. I'll certainly be sad to see it go.
As an aside I'm even more determined now to get editions 99 and 127 to complete my collection so if anyone has either...
I have loads in my collection from the start in the shed - I will have a look for you tonight.
For other people who have kindly helped my try to complete the set I have donated a few quid to Acorns during my next visit to VP on their behalf, I'd be happy to do the same for your good self :-)
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Shame - I always look forward to reading it on the train on the way home but, as PL would say, we go again and I'm sure I'll enjoy the digital version.
The paper version of H&V has been a great Villa institution. Thanks to Dave and all the writers and sellers over the past quarter of a century.
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Really sad to see the paper version of H & V ending. Kept me smiling and entertained when the match didn't!!
Match days won't be the same. It will be like having fish and chips out of a polystyrene container; rather than an old newspaper.
Happy days.
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I'm also absolutely distraught.....for me the paper version every time.......
Wish i had kept all my copies now instead of giving them away a few weeks ago as undoubtedly these will all become collectors items and as valuable as
the painting i have at home on my wall,the original
Mina Losa!!!!
I daresay i'll get used to the digital version....after all i spend enough time on here i'm sure i will find time to read it.
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I'm gutted that there will be no more paper edition's next season always looked forward to reading and collecting them sad news indeed.
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Good post Dave.
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End of an era ....very disappointing - does RL read it?
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And, as others have said, the shouts of 'Heroes & Villains The Villa Fanzine Brand New Issue' will be missed on match days. End of an era but sign of the times
Yes "VillaTimes, check the spelling in today's issue" ain't got the same ring to it !
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Is the digital copy printable? I have a great idea who likes standing in the rain shouting?
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Talking of the Bartons it's a Saturday 3pm kick-off! Feels like ages since I've been there (no point going on a weekday as it shuts at about 10.30pm).
Should be popping in post-game on Saturday after my travels to some obscure footballing outpost somewhere.
Unless there's a free Wet Spam ticket going, don't want to break my longstanding record of not paying to watch Villa!
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So does more mean I can finally charge a fee for what I write?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *breathe* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Talking of the Bartons it's a Saturday 3pm kick-off! Feels like ages since I've been there (no point going on a weekday as it shuts at about 10.30pm).
Should be popping in post-game on Saturday after my travels to some obscure footballing outpost somewhere.
Unless there's a free Wet Spam ticket going, don't want to break my longstanding record of not paying to watch Villa!
No wonder Lerner's looking for new investment....
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
Through both this forum and H&V I have met some nice guys - Percy and Dave included.
I will miss the banter and chats I have held with you and Dave - both at home and away.
Likewise I am retiring the season ticket at the end of the season and my trips to B6 and elsewhere will be curtailed - I`ve really fallen out of love with the game, rather than the Villa.
Hopefully our paths will cross in the future.
Thanks to Dave for publishing some of my ramblings, rants and features about my lad - VCTM jnr - he sends his regards too
All the very best guys !! Cheers VCTM
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
Through both this forum and H&V I have met some nice guys - Percy and Dave included.
I will miss the banter and chats I have held with you and Dave - both at home and away.
Likewise I am retiring the season ticket at the end of the season and my trips to B6 and elsewhere will be curtailed - I`ve really fallen out of love with the game, rather than the Villa.
Hopefully our paths will cross in the future.
Thanks to Dave for publishing some of my ramblings, rants and features about my lad - VCTM jnr - he sends his regards too
All the very best guys !! Cheers VCTM
Sad to hear that , hope you will continue to be active on the forum .
The game is not what it once was to me either and I understand why you have made the decision.
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I'm also sad that it's going. I'm another one for the 'read it in the bath/on the crapper' camp. I'm very reluctanct to install iTunes on my PC, it's a crappy piece of bloatware that's so bad on the PC it must be deliberate on Apple's part. I downloaded the Kindle app on my Android phone but there's nothing in the search results. Is it really going to be iTunes or buy a Kindle Fire to keep reading? Is there any way to read on Android or say Google Books?
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I'm also sad that it's going. I'm another one for the 'read it in the bath/on the crapper' camp. I'm very reluctanct to install iTunes on my PC, it's a crappy piece of bloatware that's so bad on the PC it must be deliberate on Apple's part. I downloaded the Kindle app on my Android phone but there's nothing in the search results. Is it really going to be iTunes or buy a Kindle Fire to keep reading? Is there any way to read on Android or say Google Books?
Doesn't work on the old standard kindle - needs to be kindle fire.
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I'm also sad that it's going. I'm another one for the 'read it in the bath/on the crapper' camp. I'm very reluctanct to install iTunes on my PC, it's a crappy piece of bloatware that's so bad on the PC it must be deliberate on Apple's part. I downloaded the Kindle app on my Android phone but there's nothing in the search results. Is it really going to be iTunes or buy a Kindle Fire to keep reading? Is there any way to read on Android or say Google Books?
Doesn't work on the old standard kindle - needs to be kindle fire.
That's a shame, in the mobile/tablet market Android made up 81% of shipped devices in Q3 2013. That figure will include the Kindle Fire but I'd be willing to bet it's a tiny proportion of it. I'd guess it's not just me that'll find this transition difficult.
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I have a Nook. Can I get it on that?
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I have a Kindle Fire so how do I buy it for that?
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I have it on Android using the Exactly App (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exacteditions.android.androidpaper&hl=en)
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Can also get it on the exactly app with ipad as well .
The exactly app is available from the amazon store for free.
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A box of kleenex is on its way to you. :-X
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Thanks BE I'll give it a go when my subscription runs out.
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Good. Well, I don't want to go. I enjoy selling.
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You can come with me to the Barton's Leeg.
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I really, really don't want this to happen.
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Woe woe and thrice woe. I think those great guys like Lee should be given old copies to sell. It is not so much selling a fake official programme as street theatre. The old mags are more interesting anyway.
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I have a slate so how do I configure it to receive H&V?
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A box of kleenex is on its way to you. :-X
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The twice a year bumper paper editions will still be sold at...four-six home games, at least, no? So, remnants of the matchday experience will remain albeit on a less regular basis.
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I remember lobbying for a digital version a few years ago - after the cost of international postage became ridiculous....funny thing is, although I subscribe to the digital version, I hardly ever read it! It just does not get me excited the way finding a paper copy in my mailbox used to.
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Since I moved to Australia two years ago, my wife has never understood the level of excitement I display when I find my latest copy of H&V in our mailbox. I'll be gutted when the last one is confirmed, but hey ho, the digital version it is then. Thanks to all the sellers I've encountered over the years. Godspeed
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You can't halt progress, times change. A shame but smart move.
Walking down the Trinity Road without the sounds of 'Heroes & Villains THE Villa fanzine, brand new issue, only £x' will never be the same though.
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Sad to see the print version go, it's such a part of the match-day excitement for me and also, as others have mentioned, if the game's boring it's a great distraction! But we must embrace the future, digital all the way!
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Good. Well, I don't want to go. I enjoy selling.
Why not start a 'both clubs' scarf stall. Those are really popular with H&V folk....?!
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Since retiring to Cornwall this year I always look forward to receiving H & V in the post, but I will however reluctantly get my villa fix online.
My thanks to all the sellers particularly Lord Woodhall, who over the years introduced me and the good lady to Messrs Bremner and Mortimer, (the good lady couldn't stop laughing at an old git being completely starstruck), whilst selling me the fanzine ( and various books for Christmas!) - it was always a pleasure to "shoot the breeze".
UTV
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Good. Well, I don't want to go. I enjoy selling.
Why not start a 'both clubs' scarf stall. Those are really popular with H&V folk....?!
I wonder if anyone on here secretly wants one and will get a Villa/West Ham one in the hope of getting away with it. I thought of getting one for a laugh and tried to think of the saddest one I could get but then realised they are all equally sad so there was no point.
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Subscribers will get the full details at the end of the season but at the moment there's going to be a choice for anyone with outstanding monies:
a) Transfer to digital for however long they have left (adjustments will be made for overseas)
b) Donation to Acorns
c) Refund.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
But no business (regardless of what it supplies) has to charge VAT unless it hits the VAT registration threshold, currently set at £79,000.
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Cheers for the hard work, there can't be many better, more credible or long lasting fanzines than H&V. It can't have been easy getting the thing printed and paid for every issue over the last 25 years either.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
But no business (regardless of what it supplies) has to charge VAT unless it hits the VAT registration threshold, currently set at £79,000.
We get charged VAT by the digital suppliers; we don't by the printer.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
How bizarre.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
How bizarre.
VAT legislation is bizarre - childrens' clothes don't carry VAT, adults do. Cakes don't carry VAT, biscuits do. Oranges don't, orange juice does. There's almost no sense to it.
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During the nineties there was a big debate about putting VAT on publications (the "tax on learning") and it was so controversial that the government backed down. There were no digital publications then so no need for a decision.
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The price will be around the same as VAT now has to be added and set-up costs are comparatively high for short runs such as ours - Private Eye, we ain't.
Blame the accountant in me for this but do you really trigger the VAT threshold? You'd need to sell more than 39,500 copies a year to do so - I don't want you giving the government 40p a copy unneccesarily (although this may result in you being labelled a despicable tax avoider on here!).
Paper copies are VAT free. Digital copies aren't.
How bizarre.
VAT legislation is bizarre - childrens' clothes don't carry VAT, adults do. Cakes don't carry VAT, biscuits do. Oranges don't, orange juice does. There's almost no sense to it.
If you could devise a Tax system more complicated than our VAT system it would be a miracle
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But no business (regardless of what it supplies) has to charge VAT unless it hits the VAT registration threshold, currently set at £79,000.
We get charged VAT by the digital suppliers; we don't by the printer.
Will you be over the sales threshold for VAT registration or are you voluntarily registered ?
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VAT legislation is bizarre - childrens' clothes don't carry VAT, adults do. Cakes don't carry VAT, biscuits do. Oranges don't, orange juice does. There's almost no sense to it.
There was a thread a while ago where I babbled on about VAT on kangeroos
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It has been part of the VP furniture in its written format , but time moves on so here's to the next 25 years.
I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground. That was San Jose away!
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I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground.
Now you come to mention it, I've never seen him inside a ground either.
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During the nineties there was a big debate about putting VAT on publications (the "tax on learning") and it was so controversial that the government backed down. There were no digital publications then so no need for a decision.
How many copies of the print edition do you usually order dave ?
Also how well is the digital version going sales wise as it's been out around a year now ?
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I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground.
Now you come to mention it, I've never seen him inside a ground either.
Nor me. I'm beginning to think that at 3pm Mr Woodhall leaves Villa Park and heads for a boozer that's showing the Baggies game
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It has been part of the VP furniture in its written format , but time moves on so here's to the next 25 years.
I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground. That was San Jose away!
I have a box.
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It has been part of the VP furniture in its written format , but time moves on so here's to the next 25 years.
I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground. That was San Jose away!
I have a box.
Full of fanzines.
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It has been part of the VP furniture in its written format , but time moves on so here's to the next 25 years.
I've seen DW outside countless away ends but only ever spotted him once inside the ground. That was San Jose away!
I have a box.
Full of fanzines.
LOL as the youth of today say.
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Never talk to Dave about who subscribes or how many he sells. After he announced the digital only thing to me with a call on Monday, where he demanded more copy incidentally, I floated the idea of my getting twenty quid an issue to churn the stuff out.
The call finished at 10pm and my shed was on fire and no more by 1am. I am not saying they are connected but....
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I'm still waiting to hear what my redundancy package entails.
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I'll miss seeing Percy's happy cheerful face before a match....
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I would have thought that there will be a ready made niche market for some young entrepreneur to launch Villains and Heroes in traditional fanzine form.
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None of us are young enough!
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I wrote and illustrated a prototype Villa fanzine donkey's years ago - pre H and V - I called it "Holteite". I must have it in one of my lofts being used as nesting material by squirrels I expect. Same box as my thesis on Gaudi and my unfinished novel about a tribe of duck worshippers called "Earthquack".
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Anyone know if any other fanzine gone digital only? If so, which one/s?
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Spurs for definite. I know because I sold a few to their fans who said they missed paper copies of their fanzine. Stoke on the other hand do a new paper issue for every home game.
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I don't think Spurs have got one at all.
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It's what their fans said to me. Online/digital only.
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A quick Google and The Fighting Cock issue 1 is available in paper. No idea how recent that is.
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I'm still waiting to hear what my redundancy package entails.
Pretty sure there's a clause in there that states: "stay away from all Aston Villa games - you are a jinx".
;-)
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We shall all wonder at the power of the universe if the end of H&V in print sweeps in the end of Lambert's godawful home record.
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May be time to explore Villa Times!
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May be time to explore Villa Times!
Dog hlep ouy!
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May be time to explore Villa Times!
Is that the official program?
Do ya gotta geddit unda da counter?
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There was one edition from many many moons ago - 20 years ago in fact.
It must have been the edition the time the Holte was being dismantled and my mate and I are two many fans pictured on the front cover - any chance this can be posted from the vaults?
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There was one edition from many many moons ago - 20 years ago in fact.
It must have been the edition the time the Holte was being dismantled and my mate and I are two many fans pictured on the front cover - any chance this can be posted from the vaults?
This? If so best I can do with my phone.
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About two-thirds of the way down and a quarter of the way across is a guy in a bright blue t-shirt. To his left and slightly higher, framed by two arms, is the late Ashok of Tom Ross fame.
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I like that one of the Chuckle brothers is a Villa fan.
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I absolutely love the hard copy Heroes and Villains and will miss it a lot, I always look forward to new editions on match days but I understand times change, thanks for some great stories, the letters pages etc etc its been a blast, how many more paper editions after tomorrow?
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They will carry on until the end of the season.
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I like that one of the Chuckle brothers is a Villa fan.
Which one?
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Ah. I think I see what you mean now.
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Anyway, now that I'm slowly coming to terms with Dave's decision:
H&V as a printed fanzine will cease to exist at the end of the season. Digital only for the future apart from a couple of compendiums from time to time. To say I am gutted is an understatement. Through selling outside the ground I have met and talked to so many wonderful people and had a lot of fun for the majority of the time. I will miss my regulars, all of whom have been really good to me for various reasons. Thanks for giving me the opportunity, Dave. I will miss selling but I understand your reasons behind this.
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What is the pecking order regarding length of service? Who is going for a couple of pints with their compo and who is going on a cruise?
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I'm getting a packet of crisps and a 50p-off voucher for a future on-line purchase.
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Anyway as long as I know I have H@V online I will be fine, dont post much but on here an awful lot, as soon as tablet goes on at night Mrs K says "Heroes and Villains I suppose" and I respond "of course"
Love you guys :) :)
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Dave is buying me the Villa.
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I'm getting a packet of crisps and a 50p-off voucher for a future on-line purchase.
I would imagine the union negotiations were like the old Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch but even funnier. Who got the swivel chair and electric bottle opener in the Barton's?
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What is the pecking order regarding length of service? Who is going for a couple of pints with their compo and who is going on a cruise?
I helped Dave sell for a few minutes when we were chatting before the Arsenal game when Dr Jo was manager. I think that got me the gig for the next game, would have been around Christmas '90 I guess. The days of cheap tickets courtesy of borrowed Dole cards.
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Have nearly always bought from Percy but now the paper edition is coming to an end maybe I should purchase from a Moderator like Legion who I believe sells right by the ground but what if he has sold out by the time I get to him and I have to run back to Percy, What should I do?
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Trinity Road Gates today. I'll save you a copy just in case.
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Has everybody got their banners painted ?
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Trinity Road Gates tomorrow. I'll save you a copy just in case.
Tomorrow?
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Trinity Road Gates tomorrow. I'll save you a copy just in case.
Tomorrow?
I'm prepared to wait that long to make a sale...
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Trinity Road Gates tomorrow. I'll save you a copy just in case.
Tomorrow?
I'm prepared to wait that long to make a sale...
Fair enough if I dont catch you today see you tomorrow.
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Trinity Road Gates today. I'll save you a copy just in case.
If its a new issue, won't Greg be on the gate and you under the tree ?
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Probably.
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Trinity Road Gates today. I'll save you a copy just in case.
If its a new issue, won't Greg be on the gate and you under the tree ?
Which tree?
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The tree with a bloke under it who's yelling "Heroes and Villains...... new issue out today".
NB - The tree may also have a dangerous looking branch that might be about to fall on the seller's head.
NB2 - There may also be a Police riot van reversing towards the seller ("Police Riot Van Reverser" is the difficult second album follow up to "African Car Reverser")
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The tree with a bloke under it who's yelling "Heroes and Villains...... new issue out today".
NB - The tree may also have a dangerous looking branch that might be about to fall on the seller's head.
NB2 - There may also be a Police riot van reversing towards the seller ("Police Riot Van Reverser" is the difficult second album follow up to "African Car Reverser")
Oh fuck it I will buy from Percy
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I only ever see Percy, his lad (who I always buy from), and the fella on the Holte End gates (Steve is it?) as I walk from the car to the Holte End. Oh I generally see Dave after the game too standing next to the bus stop outside the church.
I might do a lap of the ground today so that I can put a face to the name of all the sellers before they disappear into the crowd forever.
Could we have a weekly bio of each seller - name, selling location, most annoying away fan, most ridiculous question, etc, etc?
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If it helps, Dave is selling outside the church, Dave is opposite. Dave is by the Holte gates. Dave is outside the Trinity Road gates, Dave is under the tree opposite. I am outside the North Stand Gates on Witton Lane. And Rodney is in his usual place opposite me.
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If it helps, Dave is selling outside the church, Dave is opposite. Dave is by the Holte gates. Dave is outside the Trinity Road gates, Dave is under the tree opposite. I am outside the North Stand Gates on Witton Lane. And Rodney is in his usual place opposite me.
Applauds. Nice one, Dave.
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If it helps, Dave is selling outside the church, Dave is opposite. Dave is by the Holte gates. Dave is outside the Trinity Road gates, Dave is under the tree opposite. I am outside the North Stand Gates on Witton Lane. And Rodney is in his usual place opposite me.
Thanks, that clears things up nicely
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Anyway I will definately buy a copy from somebody.
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I'll buy one off Dave.
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I'll miss seeing Percy's happy cheerful face before a match....
..and his funny clothes.
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If it helps, Dave is selling outside the church, Dave is opposite. Dave is by the Holte gates. Dave is outside the Trinity Road gates, Dave is under the tree opposite. I am outside the North Stand Gates on Witton Lane. And Rodney is in his usual place opposite me.
Security provided by Dave
http://www.davessecurity.com/
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What the fuck have I started? Right then I will circle the ground and buy one from every seller and with that increase in sales maybe the paper version will continue next season?
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In all seriousness, I am North Stand gates on Witton Lane, Dave Woodhall is opposite me by the souvenir stand, Legion will Trinity Road, probably on the other side of the road to the gates. I don't know if Percy is selling today and I don't think the other sellers post on here much (if at all).
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In all seriousness, I am North Stand gates on Witton Lane, Dave Woodhall is opposite me by the souvenir stand, Legion will Trinity Road, probably on the other side of the road to the gates. I don't know if Percy is selling today and I don't think the other sellers post on here much (if at all).
It looks like Legion then as I usually walk up Trinity Road and through those gates, thanks.
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
Being in the antipodes means I don't get down to the Villa often (and by often, I mean I've been 4 times in my life). The way I've stayed connected to Villa was through HnV. The first time I was I was able to go to a game was vs Man City in Dec, 2006, and one of the priorities for me on the day was to buy a copy of the fanzine. Just so happened that I bought it from you Percy.
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Been feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
[/quoteBeen feeling a bit melancholy since, like Paul Ince, I was sacked by text earlier today. 23 years unbroken service, and I always enjoyed the feeling I was working for my beloved club in an indirect way.
Started during the reign of Doctor Jo, and I've loved almost every minute, weather aside. Resisted the overtures of friends many times to fake a mugging or change moody twenty pound notes, and never ripped Dave off for a penny (like he wouldn't have noticed).
Made lots of new friends, and saw old ones a lot more than I otherwise would have. VCTM, vespavillan, D.boy, john boy, peter w, Peter Withe, Peter Withe's shin, Kevin Dawson, fred m and his lovely wife Elaine, Dorset Villain, and loads more who's names I've forgotten at present or never knew. But to all my customers and those who just stopped for a chat, thanks for your time, company and money.
Best of all, while selling on Trinity Road, I met the beautiful Kerri, who went on to become my wife and the mother of two of my children. Then there's another two who got a bit of work experience by becoming my colleagues on the streets of Aston.
And contrary to popular belief, Dave is a great gaffer and a true friend.
Somebody will have to inform WMP that I'm not so busy before the match now.
Cheers everyone. It's been emotional.
Percy, it's been a pleasure buying from you over the years. My thanks to you, and all who have contributed to such a wonderful part of the Villa's history. It won't be the same without hearing that age old question, 'Is that the programme?'. My thanks to you all.
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Percy used to be my pusher. Is that the programme mate? ;)
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Came down to breakfast this morning and picked up my H&V to carry on reading from where I left off last night. Couldn't do that with an online version!
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Some cracking stuff in there this month
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Stuart Griffin had three articles in it, must be a record for one issue?
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In all seriousness, I am North Stand gates on Witton Lane, Dave Woodhall is opposite me by the souvenir stand, Legion will Trinity Road, probably on the other side of the road to the gates. I don't know if Percy is selling today and I don't think the other sellers post on here much (if at all).
Ah I got mine off you yesterday then and briefly mumbled something about "was it the programme?" Hilarious I am! ;)
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Good luck to Dave, Mac and the rest of H&V. I've had the pleasure of meeting many of you over the years, and what a top bunch of fella's you all are.
I remember when I used to help Steve aka Ormo, Rodney, Crouchy, Steve Merchant, selling the Holy Trinity outside the ground. It was always a tough sell as up against the more revered H&V, but we did okay.
I've been subscribing to the online edition now for the past year. Its the way forward.
Onwards and upwards, and UTV.
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3 is my upper limit but I have done that many in an issue before, I am sure. Perhaps you didn't notice previously as they were crap!
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Good luck to Dave, Mac and the rest of H&V. I've had the pleasure of meeting many of you over the years, and what a top bunch of fella's you all are.
I remember when I used to help Steve aka Ormo, Rodney, Crouchy, Steve Merchant, selling the Holy Trinity outside the ground. It was always a tough sell as up against the more revered H&V, but we did okay.
I've been subscribing to the online edition now for the past year. Its the way forward.
Onwards and upwards, and UTV.
does Mac not post on here anymore or has he got a new username, haven't seen a post from him in ages?
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Good luck to Dave, Mac and the rest of H&V. I've had the pleasure of meeting many of you over the years, and what a top bunch of fella's you all are.
I remember when I used to help Steve aka Ormo, Rodney, Crouchy, Steve Merchant, selling the Holy Trinity outside the ground. It was always a tough sell as up against the more revered H&V, but we did okay.
I've been subscribing to the online edition now for the past year. Its the way forward.
Onwards and upwards, and UTV.
does Mac not post on here anymore or has he got a new username, haven't seen a post from him in ages?
Don't ask.
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Bit late, I just did ;)
Is he banned, or a self-imposed exile? Presume its the latter?
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Bit late, I just did ;)
Is he banned, or a self-imposed exile? Presume its the latter?
You never leave...
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I'm gutted to see it going. Having been going to Villa Park since 1991, it's become part of the match-day routine for me. Hope it goes well, and will subscribe online. It just doesnt feel the same!
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Can someone still stand outside the ground and shout it?
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Can someone still stand outside the ground and shout it?
"Heroes & Villains, latest issue, online"
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Can someone still stand outside the ground and shout it?
"Heroes & Villains, latest issue, online"
Leeg can. He seems to be pining the most.
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Can someone still stand outside the ground and shout it?
"Heroes & Villains, latest issue, online"
Leeg can. He seems to be pining the most.
He's just craving attention
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I'm over it now.
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I'm going to randomly shout it on the way to the ground. After I get off the bus.
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I'm going to randomly shout it on the way to the ground. After I get off the bus.
Why wait until after the bus???
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Very nice piece in t'Mail, Mr Woodhall.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/special-feature-mat-kendrick-talks-6720203
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Very nice piece in t'Mail, Mr Woodhall.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/special-feature-mat-kendrick-talks-6720203
Following on from that article its kind of appropriate that tonight's Mail also bears the front page headline "Sir Doug: Tom Finney fixed my leaking roof". Very nineties.
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Weird angle for the photo
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Whoever took it was clearly and quite correctly bowing at the time.
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The only time Dave bows is when he THINKS someone might drop ten pence.
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The only time Dave bows is when he THINKS someone might drop ten pence.
The last time he dropped a ten pence piece himself, it hit him on the back of the head on the way down to pick it up.
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I was selling on Trinity Road once and I dropped a quid. I had a text from Dave who, was on Witton Lane, telling me to pick it up seconds after it hit the road. Ears like a bat when it comes to dropped money.
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He heard the £1 coin I dropped into the massive piles of leaves a few years ago. So glad it was found before I incurred the wrath.
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I hit a Blues fan on the back of the head with a pound coin from ten yards after he said something derogatory about the Villa and/or the fanzine. This is the first time I've dared tell Dave about it. Gross misconduct, instant dismissal.
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I hit a Blues fan on the back of the head with a pound coin from ten yards after he said something derogatory about the Villa and/or the fanzine. This is the first time I've dared tell Dave about it. Gross misconduct, instant dismissal.
Did The Nose pick it up?
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No. Dave did.
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I had a manager keep me behind for an hour after work once looking for a pound coin I had dropped. Couldn't find it despite having the carpet up at one point. If I had had any coins in my pocket I would happily have dropped one and 'found' it but I didn't. Does Dave have a brother?
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So Sad that it will go. I have them all neatly stored. My wife will be chuffed! I am also another old fashioned one! I hate this modern digital age!
Oh well I'll have to print mine!
never mind I'm sure we can go again!
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No more "AWM".
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Bad move stopping the printed version
Are the sellers being looked after? / TUPE'd over to whoever ? Probably Capita
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Some bloke ranted at me today about the paper version stopping, I was tempted to send him over the road to Dave.
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Some bloke ranted at me today about the paper version stopping, I was tempted to send him over the road to Dave.
Anyone who asked me I was just pointing up at the clouds.
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Due to work and financial reasons I don't get up to VP as much as I would like but whenever I do I always buy a copy of H&V so I am gutted to read this............Dave I will vent my spleen next time I see you in Asda
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I am looking forward to the FA Cup 2015 final special.
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The penultimate one has dropped onto the mat.
Very good reading.
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Bad move stopping the printed version
Are the sellers being looked after? / TUPE'd over to whoever ? Probably Capita
TUPE - transferring unwanted people elsewhere.
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Now, this might not work because it's brand new and untried technology and in the hands of an idiot (me) but we're hoping on Saturday to have another technological breakthrough whereby it will be possible to access the H&V digital app free within the vicinity of Villa Park. More news when I understand it.
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Oh great, I struggle to get a text message out in the vicinity of villa park on a match day. Now with this extra demand........
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Now, this might not work because it's brand new and untried technology and in the hands of an idiot (me) but we're hoping on Saturday to have another technological breakthrough whereby it will be possible to access the H&V digital app free within the vicinity of Villa Park. More news when I understand it.
Will that include the Barton's?
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Now, this might not work because it's brand new and untried technology and in the hands of an idiot (me) but we're hoping on Saturday to have another technological breakthrough whereby it will be possible to access the H&V digital app free within the vicinity of Villa Park. More news when I understand it.
Will that include the Barton's?
No. It'll be the immediate, ie close to, the ground.
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As Somniloquism says, it's difficult even to send a text on a match day, let alone access the web
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Now, this might not work because it's brand new and untried technology and in the hands of an idiot (me) but we're hoping on Saturday to have another technological breakthrough whereby it will be possible to access the H&V digital app free within the vicinity of Villa Park. More news when I understand it.
Tis sorcery I tell ye
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As Somniloquism says, it's difficult even to send a text on a match day, let alone access the web
I can normally get on the web outside the ground well enough to provide the team news to PWS and Legion.
No chance of web access during the game.
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I asked Villa Hospitality if free or nominal charge wi-fi could be provided in communal areas and pre match rooms like the Holte Suite. I was told that this was not possible because of the potential demand and the possible interference with turnstile technology. As I am a computer dolt of the first kind I didn't question this although I did wonder why airports can provide such a facility without too much hassle.
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Didn't the club make some announcement at the start of the season about 4G being installed at villa park to improve coverage?
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New technology at VP was tested for the Chavski match. If anyone noticed, they had perfect internet connection etc that day. I know I did. When it will be rolled out permanently I don't know.
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I'll miss it but the print was getting a bit too small to read, at least with the online version, I will be able to make the print readable
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The cover of the penultimate H&V jinxes Villa Centre forward - blame the editor !!!
Please stick a photo of Stephen Ireland on the last edition cover
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I asked Villa Hospitality if free or nominal charge wi-fi could be provided in communal areas and pre match rooms like the Holte Suite. I was told that this was not possible because of the potential demand and the possible interference with turnstile technology. As I am a computer dolt of the first kind I didn't question this although I did wonder why airports can provide such a facility without too much hassle.
I only bring your comment forward because I agree, but as far as turnstile technology using wireless connectivity as a reason, I think the twonk that told you that was giving you BS, when you go in Saturday look at all the wires leading from the turnstile terminals.
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On the OS (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3748561,00.html) now that 4G will be available on matchdays
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There's no point in me having a 4G phone because we're lucky to get G let along 3G down here
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There's no point in me having a 4G phone because we're lucky to get G let along 3G down here
Babysteps you see, otherwise you'll startle the locals.
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I'm not usually one for nostalgia, but I will definitely miss picking up a copy when at Villa Park. I remember buying my first H&V and laughing my arse off, and feeling slightly rebellious that I was reading something that was not The Official Line. For the first time I realised that it was ok to be pissed off with your club and that thousands of others were. It has been wonderfully both informative and subversive and long may it continue
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I have a few copies of H&V lying around, always a great read. Does anybody here remember THE VILLA BUGLE, or was anyone reading this involved in it?
Going back about 18 years now, this was in suburban Melbourne, a mate of mine lived next door to an abandoned house that was still in good nick but it was messy with a few belongings left behind. It must've had some English backpackers in it before they'd pissed off or the lease ran out. Imagine my surprise to find a copy of The Villa Bugle (The back had a photo of Bluenose 'Paul Twat' holding aloft the Auto Windscreens shield with Mickey Mouse's face imposed onto it ie. Mickey Mouse trophy). This was when the internet was still in it's infancy and information was nowhere near as rife and as easily obtainable as it is now, being abroad back then you had to scrounge for info on the Villa. There was also an Evening Mail guide to all the midlands squads.