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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: fredm on December 08, 2013, 09:59:44 PM
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Has signed for Basford Utd in the Northern Counties East Premier Division. He scored the opening goal in their 3-1 home win yesterday in front of a crowd of
51!!!
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Come back to Redditch United Lee! He (almost) singlehandedly saved us from relegation in 11/12 (3 goals in 6 games, loads of assists).
Either he just looooves playing football or the money troubles haven't got any better.
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He has probably had bigger crowds than that at a creditors meeting.
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I'll be the first to say it - what a waste!
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He's duel registered and can also play for Highgate United.
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Come back to Redditch United Lee! He (almost) singlehandedly saved us from relegation in 11/12 (3 goals in 6 games, loads of assists).
Either he just looooves playing football or the money troubles haven't got any better.
It's probably the former. Even at his most infuriating he clearly loved playing.
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On today's evidence he could still do a job for us in central midfield.
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If Hendrie invents an age reversal machine and gets himself 22 again, he's welcome back. He might not be a Villa legend by any stretch but he's a class above the midfielders we have at the moment.
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Match report:
http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/basfordunitedfc/news/hendrie-shines-in-basford-win-1113086.html (http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/basfordunitedfc/news/hendrie-shines-in-basford-win-1113086.html)
Their manager is Martin Carruthers. Well I never.
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Come back to Redditch United Lee! He (almost) singlehandedly saved us from relegation in 11/12 (3 goals in 6 games, loads of assists).
Either he just looooves playing football or the money troubles haven't got any better.
It's probably the former. Even at his most infuriating he clearly loved playing.
Agreed. And that's why I personally can't dislike his off field persona.
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Come back to Redditch United Lee! He (almost) singlehandedly saved us from relegation in 11/12 (3 goals in 6 games, loads of assists).
Either he just looooves playing football or the money troubles haven't got any better.
It's probably the former. Even at his most infuriating he clearly loved playing.
Agreed. And that's why I personally can't dislike his off field persona.
He played in the Lions Club Chairman's game last year, and as Tony Daley dropped out due to commitments at Wolves, he played one half for both sides. Although his opposition that day was not spectacular, you could still see he had the skills and vision that most of us could only dream of having. The same was true for Tayls when he played on the Villa fans team against the Chicago Fire fans in July 2012. I would imagine if he wanted to, he could still cut it in the lower leagues as well.
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If I turned up at Villa Park for a stadium tour with a Villa legend and it was him, I'd want my money back.
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It's a shame how Hendries post Villa career turned out. Granted largely his own doing, but he's drifted from club to club playing a dozen or so here and there for each team before moving on. He left us at 29-30, at a time he should probably have been peaking, but the decline has been startling. Another player who if he had the aptitude would have played plenty of times for England and been held in high regard for us. Could pick a pass, good vision, skill, and could tuck away a chance when he got it. Ability to score special goals too.
He's 36. There's players older than him still playing in the top flight. Loads playing in the Champ-L2. It's a shame he's been playing Non-League for the last three years. Waste of his ability, and he's never relied on pace either.
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Clown who enjoyed the other side of being a footballer too much. Wasted his natural talent and can't drive a golf buggy.
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How exactly did he waste his natural talent? He played over 250 games in the top flight and was capped by his country. If he'd have played 400 games, scoring 100 goals and capped 50 times for England it still wouldn't have been enough for some people.
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If I turned up at Villa Park for a stadium tour with a Villa legend and it was him, I'd want my money back.
Why exactly? (Serious question)
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If I turned up at Villa Park for a stadium tour with a Villa legend and it was him, I'd want my money back.
I'm sure Lee and everyone else in the party wouldn't lose any sleep.
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I would expect him to start singing Chicago's If You Leave Me Now.
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He could make a banner saying "We're not fickle, we just can't live up to your unrealistic expectations"
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How exactly did he waste his natural talent? He played over 250 games in the top flight and was capped by his country. If he'd have played 400 games, scoring 100 goals and capped 50 times for England it still wouldn't have been enough for some people.
He had a decent career no doubt but I always say him and Barry came through at the same time, at 32 Hendrie was playing league 2 or whatever and shortly would be in non league, at 32 Barry is playing week in week out in the premier league and recently was still playing for England and in the champions league.
You can say Barry was the more talented player but in reality not so much there should be such a wide gulf between which divisions they're playing in in their 30s.
Pretty sure Barry had an issue or two with drink early in his career here but he wised up so one of the reasons for his longevity.
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And Hendrie could be like Brian Little in that when leaving Villa it was never quite the same playing wise even though the love of being at Villa had gone but not the enthusiasm. Obviously this is taking abour Sir Brian's managerial career.
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How exactly did he waste his natural talent? He played over 250 games in the top flight and was capped by his country. If he'd have played 400 games, scoring 100 goals and capped 50 times for England it still wouldn't have been enough for some people.
He had a decent career no doubt but I always say him and Barry came through at the same time, at 32 Hendrie was playing league 2 or whatever and shortly would be in non league, at 32 Barry is playing week in week out in the premier league and recently was still playing for England and in the champions league.
You can say Barry was the more talented player but in reality not so much there should be such a wide gulf between which divisions they're playing in in their 30s.
Pretty sure Barry had an issue or two with drink early in his career here but he wised up so one of the reasons for his longevity.
Hendrie was frustrating at times because you always knew he could do more. He's a better player than most of what Hodgson has at his disposal in midfield nowadays (in terms of the younger ones). He wasn't always helped by appearing in some dour sides who'd lump it long quite often, or he'd be expected to fill in on the right side of midfield and get down the line to provide crosses, which wasn't his game.
That said there's not a midfielder at our club currently who'll come close to having the career for us that Hendrie did, even if we think he wasn't all he could. He played well over 200 games and chipped in with a fair few goals and offered a lot of memorable moments. I don't even think Delphy will come close to replicating that. Henders has done enough to be remembered but not enough to be considered close to a legend. The potential however, was there.
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Pretty sure Barry had an issue or two with drink early in his career here but he wised up so one of the reasons for his longevity.
Didn't he get done for drink driving?
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Pretty sure Barry had an issue or two with drink early in his career here but he wised up so one of the reasons for his longevity.
Didn't he get done for drink driving?
Before he was old enough to drink legally.
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LEE LEE LEE
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He was often the star of an England U-21 midfield containing future Golden Generation member Frank Lampard. Gerrard mentions in his autobiog how good Hendrie was in the few times their paths crossed at international level.
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Pretty sure Barry had an issue or two with drink early in his career here but he wised up so one of the reasons for his longevity.
Didn't he get done for drink driving?
Before he was old enough to drink legally.
Only a few days after he'd passed his test. I remember reading the story on the back page of the News of the World. Although they didn't name him, it was flaming obvious who it was.
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He should knock it all on the head now.
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Yep but Barry wised up. I'm sure they'll still be tales of Hendrie from just a few years ago telling people how much money he earnt in nightclubs flaring up...
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If I turned up at Villa Park for a stadium tour with a Villa legend and it was him, I'd want my money back.
Why exactly? (Serious question)
Because he's not a Villa legend and I couldn't stand him as a player. Petulant little shit. Don't like him and never will. To call him a legend annoys the heck out of me.
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He could make a banner saying "We're not fickle, we just can't live up to your unrealistic expectations"
At least it would be in an appropriate colour.
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Lee is a good man who had far too many hangers on and made one poor decisions in life. Good luck to him at Basford.
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A gobby little Billy Big Bollocks shit is how I remember him. Far too many times have I seen his antics when out in Brum to like him.
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Hendrie had good periods of form and had a mad spell where he was scoring a wonder goal every other game for about 6 weeks, think that was 04-05. But then he'd get injured or go missing for while and cynically the good form seemed to occur whenever his contract was running down....still not the first player to do this.
He also suffered a bit as back then 4-4-2 was very much still in vogue....he regularly played central midfield but was too lightweight in a two and on other occasions would be on the left with licence to drift inside which probably better suited him although nowadays he'd probably shine as the number 10 type in a 4-2-3-1.
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Good player for us not a great player
Quick someone get the H&V definitions of what constitutes good players and great players .... Lol
Could never really find the best position for him. But at his best had plenty of energy, could pick a pass and score goals.
The comparison with Barry is an apt on, Hendrie unfortunately never matured as a man.
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Lee is a good man who had far too many hangers on and made one poor decisions in life. Good luck to him at Basford.
Agreed, everyone makes mistakes in life and he does quite a lot for charity these days - best wishes to him.
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Lee is a good man who had far too many hangers on and made one poor decisions in life. Good luck to him at Basford.
Agreed, everyone makes mistakes in life and he does quite a lot for charity these days - best wishes to him.
Yep. Bankruptcy is quite the grounder too. Hendrie seems a lot more level headed and mature these days. He probably has a sense of regret that he didn't do quite enough to get a couple more years here to play under O Neill.
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When he signed Shaun Maloney MON described him as being "like a young Lee Hendrie". I don't think he was the best coach for either player. Those skillful but flighty types aren't really his bag.
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When he signed Shaun Maloney MON described him as being "like a young Lee Hendrie". I don't think he was the best coach for either player. Those skillful but flighty types aren't really his bag.
Nope not really. I still wonder why on Earth he even signed Maloney. He never showed much faith in Shaun.
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Maloney was a good squad player for us, popped off the bench to score a few vital goals in 07-08.
But as he admitted when he left, he wanted to go back to Celtic from pretty much the moment he signed so I'd imagine that was a factor.
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A gobby little Billy Big Bollocks shit is how I remember him. Far too many times have I seen his antics when out in Brum to like him.
I think there is a lot of regret in his life now, but that doesn't change how he was when he "had it all" so to speak. You're right, there's a lot of gobby little wankers like him, just that Lee had the money to back it up then. Now it's all gone he's reflective and he's trying to do what is right which he can be commended for. But at the height of it all, with a very promising career ahead of him he decided other things were a little more important. He had a decent career, but not the one his natural abilities should have provided him.
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All very well, but who's to say that he didn't fulfill his potential? Just because Barry pushed on it doesn't mean Hendrie would also. He had his moments but never really showed anything that suggested he would develop to be in a Man U of the time, team. He made the most of what he had and played as far his his ability would take him. That's why he's still playing in the lower leagues. He loves playing and that shone through when playing for us. If he was good enough to develop further his natural enthusiasm for playing the game would allow his talents to shine through. They didn't because he found his level. And he made the most of it.
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To say he "didn't reach his potential" or that "he wasted his talent" is pointless. No-one knows what would or wouldn't have happened to him after breaking through. He may have been overstretching himself to get where he did and then lost it under the pressure. No-one knows.
What we do know is that he played for Aston Villa in the Premier League. And he did so for a few years.
If anyone thinks that is a missed opportunity, they must be in a very privileged position themselves...
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Can anyone remember that away game at Boro, the 4-0 season ticket one? Lee and JPA were warming up in front of us and it seemed the whole first half, our 2 goals aside, was taken up with successively chanting their names. Lee in particular seemd to find it very amusing and was happily joining in the goal celebrations with us as well. Happy memories.
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Time has clouded my memory but I recall being at VP and watching him nutmeg his uncle John Hendrie moments after kick off in what may have been one of his very early appearances for the club. Is this right or was I dreaming?
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He's one of those midfielders who should have been hitting double figures most seasons, but consistency was never there in the same way it was for Lampard. I think he had as much ability as Lampard, not the application. The fact Fwank is still in the top flight and still scoring goals show how dedicated a player he is. I'll stop though, it's not good to praise Lampard too much. I've thrown up a little in my mouth.
But yeah, Hendries only a year older than Fwank. Lampard probably still has another couple of years at this level, especially if Mourinho sticks around.
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Lee Hendrie: Ex-England & Aston Villa man denies Tavistock move
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26849392