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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2013, 10:22:10 PM
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Stan Collymore @StanCollymore 18m
And to an old enemy, we know what we are too.
pic.twitter.com/AnQblr5Omw
Brian Little @brianlittle912 45m
Oh yes!!!! pic.twitter.com/qVjOtuwEIB
John Gregory @JohnGregory77 47m
19 years ago today @brianlittle912 appointed #Villa Manager... Happy 60th Birthday Gaffer !!! Xx #absolutelegend
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Excellent.
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That picture of Collymore, I remember well.FA cup game I think.A blue plastic seat is thrown , but whistles past him.Stan then mouthed "every fucking time "
A reference to his goal scoring record against Albion.
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Never a Villa fan. He did the same exact thing to the Holte. Hardly the best secret in the world I think he is a twat.
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Looking down collymore's tweets I think he deserves credit for his comments about Jonathan Trott, you can tell it's something he relates to.
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Never a Villa fan. He did the same exact thing to the Holte. Hardly the best secret in the world I think he is a twat.
Why on earth would anyone pretend to be a Villa fan?!
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Never a Villa fan. He did the same exact thing to the Holte. Hardly the best secret in the world I think he is a twat.
Why would he pretend to be a Villa fan if he wasn't one?
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We've had this discussion a million times before. I think he is a fucking twat and always have. I don't believe anyone who goads the Holte when scoring for another team is a lifelong Villa fan. Think Ian Taylor or Zat Knight would have done that?
Or maybe he's an Albion fan, as that pic shows him doing the exact same thing to them.
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We've had this discussion a million times before. I think he is a fucking twat and always have. I don't believe anyone who goads the Holte when scoring for another team is a lifelong Villa fan. Think Ian Taylor or Zat Knight would have done that?
Or maybe he's an Albion fan, as that pic shows him doing the exact same thing to them.
Mark Walters taunted the Holte after scoring for Liverpool, and he's a lifelong Villa fan. So yes, a Villa fan would do that to the Holte if he was abused by the fans like both Collymore and Walters were.
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I was at every home game, in the Holte, that Collymore played as an away player, and he wasn't abused until after he started goading us.
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Ok. Well, to be fair, he has a history of aberrations. However I've heard him over many years on the radio and it seems that he does have a fondness for the Villa. Maybe he'd been taking stick from the Holte?
If there was an internet equivalent I'd have done something similar to Risso or Gregnash over the years and they're Villa fans!
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Sorry, wrote before your reply PWS.
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I was at every home game, in the Holte, that Collymore played as an away player, and he wasn't abused until after he started goading us.
So was I. He was abused every time he came to Villa. If I got that much abuse from Villa fans I'd also give a bit back as well. Wouldn't stop me from being a Villa fan though.
Anyway, why would anyone lie about who they support? Seriously, what would you get out of it?
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I was at every home game, in the Holte, that Collymore played as an away player, and he wasn't abused until after he started goading us.
So was I. He was abused every time he came to Villa. If I got that much abuse from Villa fans I'd also give a bit back as well. Wouldn't stop me from being a Villa fan though.
Anyway, why would anyone lie about who they support? Seriously, what would you get out of it?
Have to agree, I too remember Collymore got dogs abuse every time he played against us at Villa Park.
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He might have had some jeers, but nothing like the shit players like Ian Wright got for example.
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19 years since BL took over. That's frightening. 16 years since Collymore signed... Time really does fly.
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
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Stan is a Villa man....read his book!
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Plus you think the programme editor may have done a little bit of research before giving him a piece in the matchday programme.
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Brian Little's photos on twitter show him seemingly coaching in full Villa Macron training gear. Is he back at the club in some capacity?
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Brian Little's photos on twitter show him seemingly coaching in full Villa Macron training gear. Is he back at the club in some capacity?
No , he does some coaching work still but not at villa- doesn't stop him wearing the training gear though .
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I've met Stan and when I told him who I support he told me he also supports the Villa.
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There's no doubt Stan is Villa through and through.
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There's no doubt Stan is Villa through and through.
Exactly , the way he celebrated our win against Chelsea was superb - he may have done some bad things down the years but his allegiance to villa is real.
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When collymore played for leicester against us .He was on the car park before the game signing autographs .He shouted at the top of his voice any villa fans wanting autographs can f---k off.Word spread and he got dogs abuse that day
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
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Sturridge celebrated quite enthusiastically, and he did'nt get much stick prior, and he's a Villa fan.
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Same with Joleon Lescott.
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Sturridge celebrated quite enthusiastically, and he did'nt get much stick prior, and he's a Villa fan.
I know his uncle very well (not one of the footballing ones) and he always reckons he didn't have a particular allegiance with any one club as a kid. Just loved playing.
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I'm with those who was not and is not a fan of Collymore.
I do think he is a Villa fan though - he certainly is nowadays. He may also have had a fleeting liking for Wolves asa youth but I believe he was on their books for while?
I think he is very lucky as I can't ever remember a player for any club who was loved by so many Villa fans and who delivered so little in return though. That is why him slating A Young grates on me slightly.
I remember the bloke next to me the night we lost 2.0 to Liverpool saying 'You won;t beat bosnich from there' as he rifled in a free kick that swirled in the air.
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Same with Joleon Lescott.
The absolute best thing about Lescott was that he had a good scoring record against us, and would always make a point of really over the top celebrations in front of our fans.
Right up to the day he scored their equaliser to make it 2-2 at Goodison, only for Ashley Young to then make him look a total fucking mug, run up the other end of the pitch and make it 3-2 with the last kick of the game.
What a great match that was.
Lescott's "D'oh!" face afterwards was superb.
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
Go on..... I heard a few last night, he was doing a Q&A with Dean Windass.
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Well Sturridge said in the paper before the Germany game, that his dad had home videos of him playing football in his back garden in his Villa kit.I played against his dad, very good player, at Bloose under Ron Saunders if i remember.
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
Go on..... I heard a few last night, he was doing a Q&A with Dean Windass.
I knew someone who was very friendly with Bryan Hughes cleaner when he lived in the Midlands. You would think I might know a few stories. But I don't.
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Stan is Villa - listen to him on Talk Shite. He still is a bellend though, loves sound of his own voice, takes him ages to make a point.
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Stan is Villa - listen to him on Talk Shite. He still is a bellend though, loves sound of his own voice, takes him ages to make a point.
Can I, er can I just say, er what I mean is er, like er what I'm trying to say is that er, Michael er, Michael Owen probably er, probably takes longer to er, longer to make a point.
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Stan is Villa - listen to him on Talk Shite. He still is a bellend though, loves sound of his own voice, takes him ages to make a point.
Can I, er can I just say, er what I mean is er, like er what I'm trying to say is that er, Michael er, Michael Owen probably er, probably takes longer to er, longer to make a point.
Thanks for joining us Michael. Good goal against Argentina btw.
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Same with Joleon Lescott.
The absolute best thing about Lescott was that he had a good scoring record against us, and would always make a point of really over the top celebrations in front of our fans.
Right up to the day he scored their equaliser to make it 2-2 at Goodison, only for Ashley Young to then make him look a total fucking mug, run up the other end of the pitch and make it 3-2 with the last kick of the game.
What a great match that was.
Lescott's "D'oh!" face afterwards was superb.
There were some great days in the mon era and the win at goodison and the way we got it was right up there - to go from desolation to elation in the space of a minute was fantastic - I will never forget that feeling .
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Stan is a Villa fan.
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Same with Joleon Lescott.
The absolute best thing about Lescott was that he had a good scoring record against us, and would always make a point of really over the top celebrations in front of our fans.
Right up to the day he scored their equaliser to make it 2-2 at Goodison, only for Ashley Young to then make him look a total fucking mug, run up the other end of the pitch and make it 3-2 with the last kick of the game.
What a great match that was.
Lescott's "D'oh!" face afterwards was superb.
Wasn't it the giant Klingon's slip that let Ash in too? Priceless.
As for Collywobbles, I'm not a fan of the bloke.
But unless this is some elaborate ruse, I'd be fairly certain he's one of us:
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Or this:
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
Go on..... I heard a few last night, he was doing a Q&A with Dean Windass.
I know a girl who reckons she shagged Andy Johnson in a Birmingham hotel, whilst Hughes sat on the couch cracking one off.
The zany world of professional football, eh?
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My take on Collymore is
- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better
- we didn't get anything like the best out of him
- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted
- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him
- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
Go on..... I heard a few last night, he was doing a Q&A with Dean Windass.
I know a girl who reckons she shagged Andy Johnson in a Birmingham hotel, whilst Hughes sat on the couch cracking one off.
The zany world of professional football, eh?
Did Andy Johnson pretend to celebrate in front of the Holte End afterwards?
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My take on Collymore is
- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better
- we didn't get anything like the best out of him
- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted
- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him
- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
Agree on all points
When Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"
Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at times
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My take on Collymore is
- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better
- we didn't get anything like the best out of him
- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted
- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him
- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
Agree on all points
When Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"
Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at times
It also shows how much things have changed in the last 10-15 years collymore now would have got the support and help he needed, collymore in the mid-90s was told to get on with it.
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It also shows how much things have changed in the last 10-15 years collymore now would have got the support and help he needed, collymore in the mid-90s was told to get on with it.
I think the flip side to this is that attitudes towards domestic violence have also changed over the same period. If he smacked his missus up today, his career would be over.
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Hasn't stopped Marlon King unfortunately.
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Hasn't stopped Marlon King unfortunately.
I meant his career in the media
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I was with Bryan Hughes tonight (ex blues) really nice bloke, spoke very highly of Villa park and he is a lifelong Everton fan, and he said to me the one thing he wanted to do was score at Goodison and celebrate scoring.....
I heard a funny story about him.
Go on..... I heard a few last night, he was doing a Q&A with Dean Windass.
I know a girl who reckons she shagged Andy Johnson in a Birmingham hotel, whilst Hughes sat on the couch cracking one off.
The zany world of professional football, eh?
Sounds like a girl worth knowing !
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Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...great comeback!
Stan Collymore
@StanCollymore
"@JeromeMichelKur: Why didn't you play for Arsenal/Spurs? Because you were rubbish? >WANTED TO PLAY FOR EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS #LFC #NFFC #AVFC
05:13 PM - 04 Jan 14
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Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...great comeback!
Stan Collymore
@StanCollymore
"@JeromeMichelKur: Why didn't you play for Arsenal/Spurs? Because you were rubbish? >WANTED TO PLAY FOR EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS #LFC #NFFC #AVFC
05:13 PM - 04 Jan 14
I like him as a pundit. Cant say I ever really loved him as a player.
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Or this:
if you want to question whether or not he's genuine, ask yourself if you reacted any differently at that exact moment in time?
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I have just listened to Tony Cascarino on Talksport and my opinion of him has gone up too, More passionate about us than I thought he would be.
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I was discussing our current situation with a couple of Villa supporting colleagues earlier today and the topic of conversation inevitably came round to the manager. I thought one of them made a really good point when he said that he feels that both the current owner and the manager don't really 'get' the club and other managers (O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish) have struggled because they too haven't really understood it. Conversely, managers such as Ron Atkinson, Brian Little, John Gregory and to some extent Graham Taylor have had a better understanding of the club in the past and have tended to do a little better even if they weren't able to sustain that success.
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I was discussing our current situation with a couple of Villa supporting colleagues earlier today and the topic of conversation inevitably came round to the manager. I thought one of them made a really good point when he said that he feels that both the current owner and the manager don't really 'get' the club and other managers (O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish) have struggled because they too haven't really understood it. Conversely, managers such as Ron Atkinson, Brian Little, John Gregory and to some extent Graham Taylor have had a better understanding of the club in the past and have tended to do a little better even if they weren't able to sustain that success.
I had a similar conversation with someone the other day, although we came to the conclusion that Lambert does 'get it'. Which is a completely different question to whether or not he's actually any good as a manager. God knows what Lerner thinks, its not as though we've heard a peep out of him for years.
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I was discussing our current situation with a couple of Villa supporting colleagues earlier today and the topic of conversation inevitably came round to the manager. I thought one of them made a really good point when he said that he feels that both the current owner and the manager don't really 'get' the club and other managers (O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish) have struggled because they too haven't really understood it. Conversely, managers such as Ron Atkinson, Brian Little, John Gregory and to some extent Graham Taylor have had a better understanding of the club in the past and have tended to do a little better even if they weren't able to sustain that success.
I had a similar conversation with someone the other day, although we came to the conclusion that Lambert does 'get it'. Which is a completely different question to whether or not he's actually any good as a manager. God knows what Lerner thinks, its not as though we've heard a peep out of him for years.
Might be the case Dekko. I think the likes of O'Leary and Houllier definitely didn't and always inferior to their previous clubs (O'Leary probably still thinks Leeds are a bigger club than us!!) and were almost resentful of the fans for having any ambition.
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On a different note did anyone see Mourinho whinging about all the ex-Liverpool players being pundits at the BBC? Quite funny.
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This is one I have harped on about for years. As well as the managerial curse that is Villa failure, getting us is just as important to be a success.
Lambert gets us, regardless of current performances. TSM did get us to a reasonable extent. He was just crap.
MON got us for all the good it did ultimately.
DOL? Nope.
Houllier? Nope.
How far shall we go back? I have stuck to the Lerner era only at the minute.
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My take on Collymore is
- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better
- we didn't get anything like the best out of him
- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted
- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him
- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
Agree on all points
When Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"
Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at times
In fairness I too thought what Gregory said at the time (was only 10) but it was different times. Now with all the mental health issues in Cricket and some more in football, there is much more understanding of it. I wouldn't be too hard on JG even if it was a flawed view.
I like Stan. Yes he plays up a bit too much the support but he's one of us.
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This is one I have harped on about for years. As well as the managerial curse that is Villa failure, getting us is just as important to be a success.
Lambert gets us, regardless of current performances. TSM did get us to a reasonable extent. He was just crap.
MON got us for all the good it did ultimately.
DOL? Nope.
Houllier? Nope.
How far shall we go back? I have stuck to the Lerner era only at the minute.
Graham Taylor definitely got us, even if his second spell didn't go well.
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My take on Collymore is
- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better
- we didn't get anything like the best out of him
- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted
- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him
- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
Agree on all points
When Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"
Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at times
It also shows how much things have changed in the last 10-15 years collymore now would have got the support and help he needed, collymore in the mid-90s was told to get on with it.
Yes agree as well.
Stan in my opinion, is a better broadcaster than , he was a footballer. well of course my comparison is Stan who played for us. Seriously really enjoy listening to him, makes a lot of valid points
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Ron Atkinson tried to buy Stan. He was outbid by Forest, Ellis typically refused to go to 2 million. What a pity, Stan was in his pomp and Atkinson would I think have been a great fit for him. Loved Atkinsons remark many years later that he had "gone out to buy a Colymore and ended up with a cauliflower" He is most certainly a massive Villa fan. We should be happy that someone in the media is.
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He might have had some jeers, but nothing like the shit players like Ian Wright got for example.
I remember giving Ian wright absolutely loads of shit when he was suspended for the cup winners cup final. He scored in the last minute and just stood facing the Holte with his arms out stretched
The good old days, oddly
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He might have had some jeers, but nothing like the shit players like Ian Wright got for example.
I remember giving Ian wright absolutely loads of shit when he was suspended for the cup winners cup final. He scored in the last minute and just stood facing the Holte with his arms out stretched
The good old days, oddly
Whenever I see him on TV I always think back to that game, the whole ground seemed to serenade him with 'Ian Wright, where's your final gone' for most of the game.
Happy days
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Never a Villa fan. He did the same exact thing to the Holte. Hardly the best secret in the world I think he is a twat.
He IS a Villa fan. End of !
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Ron Atkinson tried to buy Stan. He was outbid by Forest, Ellis typically refused to go to 2 million. What a pity, Stan was in his pomp and Atkinson would I think have been a great fit for him. Loved Atkinsons remark many years later that he had "gone out to buy a Colymore and ended up with a cauliflower" He is most certainly a massive Villa fan. We should be happy that someone in the media is.
BFR said that after he was sacked on 10th November 1994, "One moment i am looking at buying Colymore, next i am going shopping with the wife looking to buy cauliflower"
Well something like that.
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Ian Wright was far from shit in fairness.