Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: mal on September 18, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
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Rather depressing this:
http://tinyurl.com/plsotwp
It's been abandoned in favour of a mini-champions league with the same teams. No place for us to defend our title. Can we keep the trophy?
We should all write to UEFA and complain.
http://www.uefa.com/community/feedback/index.html
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That is absolutely outrageous. The youth European football competition should be for the best youth teams, not the youth teams of the best teams. UEFA really are a bunch of morons.
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We obviously fucked up the plans and won it as opposed to allowing Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea etc to win it. UEFA clearly don't want upstarts like some has been team in Birmingham crshing the party. Is Holloway on their committee?
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I'm going to stage a one-man protest against this, and not watch any Champions League Football this season.
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This was inevitable as soon as the rumours started up that UEFA wanted in on the act. Hardly surprising coming from the outfit that allows Champions League failures a back door entry into the Europa League.
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The worst thing for the competition was Villa winning it. We should've let Chelsea win, ringer and all.
Any Corinthian like spirit has long since vanished as the insatiable pursuit of money tramples all in it's path wearing a replica shirt.
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Will Villa make an official statement or kick up a fuss about this? I hope so.
This is just a shockingly poor decision which, potentially, could mean the clubs that consistently finish in the top four will simply hoover up all the young talent. It's obvious that the people who run the game do not care a jot about fair play and a level playing field.
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So, in essence, they used us as guinea pigs for the feasibility of the idea before having to trouble the clubs that really matter to them.
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UEFA are a bunch of morons, anybody with the slightest intelligence should see that a youth 'champions league' should feature teams with the best academies.
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To play devil's advocate it's worth pointing out that NextGen was invite only so we only participated as we were lucky enough to get picked by whoever organises it. Now I accept that it seems unfair that we don't have the chance to defend our title and the qualifying criteria picked by UEFA seems unimaginative at best and elitist at worst but is it really any less fair than how we were selected for NextGen?
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I remember reading something somewhere (probably on here) about the guy who came up with the idea for NextGen and how he'd basically been stitched up by UEFA who'd let him get it started then just nicked his idea and ran with it.
FIFA/UEFA/the FA - they're all a bunch of corrupt arseholes.
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To play devil's advocate it's worth pointing out that NextGen was invite only so we only participated as we were lucky enough to get picked by whoever organises it. Now I accept that it seems unfair that we don't have the chance to defend our title and the qualifying criteria picked by UEFA seems unimaginative at best and elitist at worst but is it really any less fair than how we were selected for NextGen?
Yes significantly. Whilst it was invite only they invited the clubs who had been successful at youth level domestically in recent years. The new system is just a chance to help the top clubs that earn Uefa money to ensure they can continue to do so going forward.
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Will Villa make an official statement or kick up a fuss about this? I hope so.
I actually think it should be the FA that makes the complaint (having canvased opinion of all the clubs). It's certainly not in the FA's interest to conceed even more power to the Chaump League monopoly so they should have an interest. Coming from Villa it would just sound like sour grapes and be ignored by the media.
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This won't be good news for young players as they will choose to join those club in UEFA Champions league for youth football and Aston Villa will suffers.
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What a complete and utter joke. I really do wonder about modern football and the clowns who run it.
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Wankers. Sent my protest in writing.
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This is certainly what Dyke and the FA should be shouting from the rooftops. This, at a time when they are bemoaning the lack of English talent coming through, the best academies are being shunted into the sidings by UEFA's crass self interest.
Meanwhile the top clubs have even more leverage to hoover up the best young talent and then deny them the opportunity to develop into first teamers.
You could weep with anger and frustration.
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Wankers. Sent my protest in writing.
Me too.
Nice of them to thank me for sending it. They obviously haven't read it!
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It is symptomatic of all that is wrong with modern football, but will it really help the favoured clubs?
The way I see it, if they take this seriously, they won't want to buy up the best youngsters and send them out on loan for years. If they don't take it seriously, that's what they will continue to do, preserving the status quo.
Meanwhile, youngsters who are really hungry may look at Villa more favourably as a club intent on producing first-teamers, rather than one that has maybe in the past been just a little bit preoccupied with winning junior competitions.
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Why am I not surprised by this!
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Wankers. Sent my protest in writing.
Me too.
Nice of them to thank me for sending it. They obviously haven't read it!
I have also protested.
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To play devil's advocate it's worth pointing out that NextGen was invite only so we only participated as we were lucky enough to get picked by whoever organises it. Now I accept that it seems unfair that we don't have the chance to defend our title and the qualifying criteria picked by UEFA seems unimaginative at best and elitist at worst but is it really any less fair than how we were selected for NextGen?
Yes significantly. Whilst it was invite only they invited the clubs who had been successful at youth level domestically in recent years. The new system is just a chance to help the top clubs that earn Uefa money to ensure they can continue to do so going forward.
How about a system of qualification by the youth teams that do best in their respective youth leagues ?
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Wankers. Sent my protest in writing.
me to
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Shame - The rich get richer...
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To play devil's advocate it's worth pointing out that NextGen was invite only so we only participated as we were lucky enough to get picked by whoever organises it. Now I accept that it seems unfair that we don't have the chance to defend our title and the qualifying criteria picked by UEFA seems unimaginative at best and elitist at worst but is it really any less fair than how we were selected for NextGen?
Yes significantly. Whilst it was invite only they invited the clubs who had been successful at youth level domestically in recent years. The new system is just a chance to help the top clubs that earn Uefa money to ensure they can continue to do so going forward.
How about a system of qualification by the youth teams that do best in their respective youth leagues ?
I have picked up these points in my own response to Eufa. I have also described their new competition and invitational pool as unhelpfully and unrealistically exclusive, unimaginative, disappointing and uninspiring. For an organisation supposed to be about promoting and supporting the development of European football and players, wherever they may be, it's all that!
Reminded them of the success of NextGen as a competition and the excitement of watching a genuine competition in proper international match conditions and the response of the clubs and crowds involved. So, there's still time to change!
Not that they will, but I mentioned a number of teams besides Villa who are excluded by their criteria, and signed myself from London, so it doesn't look so much like a disgruntled Villa fan moaning. Which it is, of course, but with good reason!
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and will some club enter this as they might not have the youth team good enough to compete.
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Sent my complaint in. What's the point in using the
standard value of the first team as a means of deciding the elite Academy teams? This is worse than the Bert Millichip "tough draw for the Villa" conspiracy- at least that could be said to be hard luck, not blatant denial of access!
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Perhaps our kids should play the winners like the "whatever the fuck they call it" match played by Bayern Munich and Chelsea.
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Dyke shoulld be all over this like a rash.
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Dyke shoulld be all over this like a rash.
I fear, deep down, Dyke is as bad as the guys who run UEFA.
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Wasn;t this announced last year though. I'm sure prior to us getting to the final there was some announcement that it was to be replaced by a UEFA sanctioned competition run aling the lines of the Champions League. Not sure why the press didn't pick up on it in such a way then, rather than leaving it to now when the changes are already in place.
Still, a crying shame though.
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The 'Old boys network' that is modern day football makes me appreciate the NFL more by the year. For those not interested in NFL, their system is set-up so that the weak get stronger so that there's always healthy competition. Whilst one or two teams are usually there or thereabouts, it normally means that different teams come to the forefront each year which in turn makes it a lot more interesting.
I would like to think that if football was just getting started that we would have a similar system. Of course it isn't though and those sides that have been able to establish themselves in the elite have been able to cement themselves in such a way that it will always be the same teams challenging for everything with only the occasional exception.
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Wankers. Sent my protest in writing.
Me too.
Nice of them to thank me for sending it. They obviously haven't read it!
I have also protested.
I'm going to have a Dirty Protest and smear my own shit all over my bathroom wall. It'll have the same effect as writing to UEFA, I'm afraid
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If it wasn't clear enough already that UEFA see their mission as pandering to a small group of elite clubs, it should be now. You can't play in the CL proper until you sign for one of them, and now you can't play in the junior version until you do the same. The clubs left high and dry by this should simply organise their own version although I'd guess they'd need UEFA to sanction it. And I sincerely doubt the self interested wankers would.
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Does this mean that Villa will keep the NextGen trophy?
Looking for a spark of positive news in this.
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Does this mean that Villa will keep the NextGen trophy?
Looking for a spark of positive news in this.
I guess we do keep it. Not too sure who we would give it back to anyway, or if they'd want it if offered.
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Does this mean that Villa will keep the NextGen trophy?
Looking for a spark of positive news in this.
I guess we do keep it. Not too sure who we would give it back to anyway, or if they'd want it if offered.
Let's sell it to Qataris. After all those f*ckers buy everything!
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So Platini has got his way then. He wanted to have an eclusive tournament, doesnt want to see anyone other than the moneybag teams compete and to stop the progress of Next Gen I bet that potential sponsors have had a call from UEFA to stop fundign for Next Gen.
I pray for the day they all fuck off to a Super League