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Title: Southampton Away date change
Post by: villajk on August 14, 2013, 01:20:02 PM

Premier League update.

FIXTURE CHANGE Southampton v Aston Villa will now take place on Wednesday 4th December at 1945 GMT instead of Tuesday 3rd December.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2013, 01:21:10 PM
Another day off required. Cardiff is on a mid-week isn't it, to add to West Brom and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: villajk on August 14, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
Yes it is, Ads.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: andrew08 on August 14, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Excellent.I don't work Wednesdays. Tuesday is a working day for me and in this case is also the 3rd birthday of my little daughter. Good news for me then.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 14, 2013, 02:04:02 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 14, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
May take the day off to go to Cardiff away and the Baggies is easy to get to, even on a Monday night.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: not3bad on August 14, 2013, 02:11:55 PM
This isn't so stupidly far for me being as I'm in Reading but even I'd betting back pretty late.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 14, 2013, 02:17:55 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.

No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2013, 02:56:14 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: LeeS on August 14, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take

It was always in the week. This hasnt changed that.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 14, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.
Working 'til 4.30/5 and traffic at that time of day won't help reach the destination on time.
Will just have to tune in to Jumpin' Jack Woodward instead!
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2013, 04:36:43 PM
The worst fixture by far is Sunderland New Years day.

Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 14, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
Excellent.I don't work Wednesdays. Tuesday is a working day for me and in this case is also the 3rd birthday of my little daughter.

It's also my daughters, Risso's and a certain ex-Villa player by the name of Paul McGrath.

Nailed on Villa win, I'd say.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ad@m on August 14, 2013, 07:42:19 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.

It's 140 miles which in rush hour will take hours. Its also further away than all but 2 of the rest of the teams in the division with the majority of the journey on A and B roads.

Is it really beyond the wit of man to arrange local games for the midweek fixtures?
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: villajk on August 14, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
The worst fixture by far is Sunderland New Years day.



This one  has really peeded me off.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2013, 09:07:32 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.

It's 140 miles which in rush hour will take hours. Its also further away than all but 2 of the rest of the teams in the division with the majority of the journey on A and B roads.

Is it really beyond the wit of man to arrange local games for the midweek fixtures?

I'd rather try to get there than any of the London grounds, and yet again it comes down to the number of factors that go into compiling the fixtures. Somebody has to go to Southampton midweek and we're closer than most.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ad@m on August 14, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.

It's 140 miles which in rush hour will take hours. Its also further away than all but 2 of the rest of the teams in the division with the majority of the journey on A and B roads.

Is it really beyond the wit of man to arrange local games for the midweek fixtures?

I'd rather try to get there than any of the London grounds, and yet again it comes down to the number of factors that go into compiling the fixtures. Somebody has to go to Southampton midweek and we're closer than most.

By my reckoning there are 9 clubs closer than us and 9 further away. Why cant one of the closer 9 play there midweek?
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2013, 09:17:48 PM
Southampton Away in the week, what a piss take
This.
No way I can get to this anyway, but still a ridiculous day/time.

There always has to be some midweeks games and Southampton is hardly a long journey now.

It's 140 miles which in rush hour will take hours. Its also further away than all but 2 of the rest of the teams in the division with the majority of the journey on A and B roads.

Is it really beyond the wit of man to arrange local games for the midweek fixtures?

I'd rather try to get there than any of the London grounds, and yet again it comes down to the number of factors that go into compiling the fixtures. Somebody has to go to Southampton midweek and we're closer than most.

By my reckoning there are 9 clubs closer than us and 9 further away. Why cant one of the closer 9 play there midweek?

Maybe they're playing somewhere else? Much as we'd like them to, the Premier League don't arrange their entire fixture list for our benefit.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: nordenvillain on August 14, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
Tuesday 3rd December 2013 : Swansea City v Newcastle United - 353 miles each way, i.e 706 mile round trip and you think we've got it bad ! The beauty of being a Villa fan, no away journey more than 400 mjike round trip.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ad@m on August 14, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Nor would I expect the Premier League to arrange the fixtures for our benefit but it seems that when they arrange the fixtures the fans are bottom of the list of people to consider, again.

As proven by the ridiculous Swansea v Newcastle game on a weekday all clubs get shafted. I'm sure there are plenty more examples.

Once again, I'm sure the human race is bright enough to work out how not to have massive away journeys on the few weekday fixtures there are each season.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2013, 09:47:29 PM
Nor would I expect the Premier League to arrange the fixtures for our benefit but it seems that when they arrange the fixtures the fans are bottom of the list of people to consider, again.

As proven by the ridiculous Swansea v Newcastle game on a weekday all clubs get shafted. I'm sure there are plenty more examples.

Once again, I'm sure the human race is bright enough to work out how not to have massive away journeys on the few weekday fixtures there are each season.


Except they haven't. They don't do it deliberately.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Ad@m on August 14, 2013, 09:54:37 PM
Nor would I expect the Premier League to arrange the fixtures for our benefit but it seems that when they arrange the fixtures the fans are bottom of the list of people to consider, again.

As proven by the ridiculous Swansea v Newcastle game on a weekday all clubs get shafted. I'm sure there are plenty more examples.

Once again, I'm sure the human race is bright enough to work out how not to have massive away journeys on the few weekday fixtures there are each season.


Except they haven't. They don't do it deliberately.

Ignoring fixtures screwed up by TV companies and the Christmas period there are 3 midweek fixtures this season. Do you genuinely believe its impossible for them to arrange closer fixtures for everyone across those three games?

I think the reality is that while they don't necessarily deliberately put in long distance games they make absolutely no effort to consider the fans. It's random and as far as the Premier League is concerned if fans have to take a day off work to get to the game then so be it.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
Do you genuinely believe its impossible for them to arrange closer fixtures for everyone across those three games?
The other issue of course is that they're not going to want fixtures too 'close' (Swansea - Cardiff, Newcastle - Sunderland, Villa - West Brom) happening on a weekday evening.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2013, 10:01:56 PM
Nor would I expect the Premier League to arrange the fixtures for our benefit but it seems that when they arrange the fixtures the fans are bottom of the list of people to consider, again.

As proven by the ridiculous Swansea v Newcastle game on a weekday all clubs get shafted. I'm sure there are plenty more examples.

Once again, I'm sure the human race is bright enough to work out how not to have massive away journeys on the few weekday fixtures there are each season.


Except they haven't. They don't do it deliberately.

Ignoring fixtures screwed up by TV companies and the Christmas period there are 3 midweek fixtures this season. Do you genuinely believe its impossible for them to arrange closer fixtures for everyone across those three games?

I think the reality is that while they don't necessarily deliberately put in long distance games they make absolutely no effort to consider the fans. It's random and as far as the Premier League is concerned if fans have to take a day off work to get to the game then so be it.

It's perfectly possible for them to arrange more fan-friendly fixtures on three dates. The problem is arranging them around the other 35. 

They do consider the fans - they spend all year putting the fixtures together and supporters have an input. But the trouble is fitting games into increasingly fewer available dates.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 14, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
I blame the rest of the local teams for being so shit that there is hardly anyone to play in this division who are close.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 15, 2013, 08:18:25 AM
Driving wise, Southampton is an easy mid week trip.
I would say preferable to any London game battling through rush hour traffic.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Nev on August 15, 2013, 08:26:59 AM
The way fans are treated these days, particularly when it comes to TV games, arguing about long distance midweek fixtures is like arguing which side of the Titanic to jump off.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 15, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
In the Conference this season Gateshead have to play at Aldershot on a Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: andyh on August 15, 2013, 08:53:57 AM
Doesn't matter when we play them, I just want us to slaughter  the cheating bastards !! 
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Surrey Villain on August 15, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
The way fans are treated these days, particularly when it comes to TV games, arguing about long distance midweek fixtures is like arguing which side of the Titanic to jump off.

LOL
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Surrey Villain on August 15, 2013, 11:21:28 AM
Do you genuinely believe its impossible for them to arrange closer fixtures for everyone across those three games?
The other issue of course is that they're not going to want fixtures too 'close' (Swansea - Cardiff, Newcastle - Sunderland, Villa - West Brom) happening on a weekday evening.

Why not?
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
In the Conference this season Gateshead have to play at Aldershot on a Tuesday night.

Lower league clubs often ask for long distance games to be played on a week night.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: rob_bridge on August 15, 2013, 01:46:53 PM
I blame the rest of the local teams for being so shit that there is hardly anyone to play in this division who are close.

Ha ha very good.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 15, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
In the Conference this season Gateshead have to play at Aldershot on a Tuesday night.

Lower league clubs often ask for long distance games to be played on a week night.

Is that so they can avoid cost of overnight stay?
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
No, it's so they're not full of guilt and self-loathing during the hours of thinking time on the way back after inflicting the effects of a heavy defeat on the hardy supporters who make the trip .
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
In the Conference this season Gateshead have to play at Aldershot on a Tuesday night.

Lower league clubs often ask for long distance games to be played on a week night.

Is that so they can avoid cost of overnight stay?

It is indeed.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2013, 03:43:49 PM
Do you genuinely believe its impossible for them to arrange closer fixtures for everyone across those three games?
The other issue of course is that they're not going to want fixtures too 'close' (Swansea - Cardiff, Newcastle - Sunderland, Villa - West Brom) happening on a weekday evening.

Why not?
To mean that people don't have the opportunity to spend the day in the pub getting tanked up.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 15, 2013, 08:48:47 PM
Both WBA games are on midweeks this season.

That said I'm miffed that Southampton and Cardiff are midweek aswell as those were the two aways I was planning for this season so they'll have to wait.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Mister E on August 15, 2013, 09:19:08 PM
The worst fixture by far is Sunderland New Years day.


Not from where I am it ain't.
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 15, 2013, 09:32:23 PM
The worst fixture by far is Sunderland New Years day.


Not from where I am it ain't.
So, if we all come up to your's to see in the New Year we can walk off your hospitality with a stroll to the Stadium of Shite ...
;-)
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 15, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
Not moaning like that Moyes bloke but we were away at Swansea last NYD. This season we're away at Sunderland.
We were also away first and last games of the season last season...and we are again this season.
I know they've said it's random, but that's not that random is it?

They should un-random it a bit surely?
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Hampshire Villa on August 16, 2013, 05:12:35 PM
Why has this been moved? it's an easy one for me, but not so good for many from Home
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Hampshire Villa on August 16, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
Tuesday 3rd December 2013 : Swansea City v Newcastle United - 353 miles each way, i.e 706 mile round trip and you think we've got it bad ! The beauty of being a Villa fan, no away journey more than 400 mjike round trip.

 depends where you live!
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Quiet Lion on August 16, 2013, 10:28:19 PM
Southampton midweek ? Not bad at all ....
Title: Re: Southampton Away date change
Post by: Quiet Lion on August 16, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
We are very lucky in terms of travel to away games (http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1iozub/which_premier_league_away_fans_have_to_travel_the/)
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