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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Smirker on August 08, 2013, 03:34:46 PM
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Vidic is the first one that comes to mind. Any other rage inducing fuck ups you can think of?
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
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Mark Halsey against Arsenal at Villa Park. We were drawing 0-0 and Henry dived to win a freekick. Whilst our players were arguing Halsey jumped out of the way and Henry stroked to ball into an empty net.
To make matters worse he gave a ludicrous penalty later on.
The officials from Man City away were dreadful this season too, their first goal came from a corner when it should have been a goal kick, the second from a penalty for handball given by the linesman that nobody else in the ground claimed for (and didn't exist), their third from a harsh penalty for a foul. Topped off by their fourth goal being a deflection.
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That complete cock end Halsey making our wall go back 10 yards whilst shielding the ball from Henry with his fat body. Then quickly steps out of the way (As he must have been requested to do by Henry) and Henry puts it into the net whilst no one was ready
I remember an image being shopped of him where you could see the corner of an Arsenal shirt under his ref one - tosser
Oh and that piece of shit from the baggies not being executed on the spot for breaking Cropleys leg at VP
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
Got a link to that mate?
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
Beat me to it. The cheating bastards.
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Sometime in the 90's, Roy Keane hacked down Savo in the penalty right in front of us at The Megastore, nothing given.
Paul McGrath gave Ronnie "that miss" Rosenthal a funny look at KLAnfield once, you can guess the rest.
But the worst performance of all time has to be Paul Danson at home against Forest, even though he sent Townsend off he was appalling for both sides, he disappeared soon after.
He was better than Phil "Staffs Reds" Dowd though.
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
What REALLY gets me ablut that one was he also gave them a penalty in that game. When interviewed afterwards, he would talk about the penalty but not the free kick. Why? Because he knew he fucked up and didn't have the balls to front it up. Or was too arrogant to think he needed to. Take you pick!
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About 10 different Paul Scholes knee-high tackles in different games where he inevitably scores the winners.
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That free kick for Arsenal where the ref (was it Poll?) was alleged to have suggested to them to take it early, and so they promptly rolled the ball into an empty net while we were still setting up a wall. I was fuming!
I'm still of the opinion that should a set piece be in a position where an immediate attempt on goal could be made, the officials owe it to the defending side to halt play and allow them time to reposition.
The fact this incident was against one of the Sky favourites just added to the injustice. You simply knew it's the kind of thing that would never have happened in our favour.
Edit- I see a few others feel the same and type quicker than I do. Thanks for pointing out it was Halsey not Poll.
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Oh and not getting a penalty or sending off when we played Chelsea in the FA Cup Semi-Final.
Terry should have been sent-off against us 3 times in recent matches and hasn't gone once.
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Anyone remember that ref in the Intertoto when we played Celta Vigo at the Hawthorns? Never seen such a display of utter incompetence to the point where both sides and sets of supporters were closer to laughter than anger.
He even blew the final whistle too early and the linesman had to tell him there was still 5 minutes to play.
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Henry goal is after about 2.50 of the clip
Second attempt!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3wxueCY7h
Henry goal is after about 2.50 of the clip
Think you've got the URL wrong mate, says video does not exist.
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Not sending off Vidic in the Cup Final. Was the worst decision I've ever seen by any ref. Dowd couldn't blame being unsighted, unsure or anything else like that. He based his decision purely on not wanting to upset their manager, then lied about it not being a goal-scoring opportunity in a pathetic attempt to cover himself.
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I still fume about Ray Hughton when he played for Liverpool against us in the late 80s, very early 90s. Moving ball that was. Clear as day.
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About 10 different Paul Scholes knee-high tackles in different games where he inevitably scores the winners.
Would this be the same Paul Scholes that if you breathe heavily near him just looks at the ref and gets a free kick?
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Anyone remember that reg in the Intertoto when we played Celta Vigo at the Hawthorns? Never seen such a display of utter incompetence to the point where both sides and sets of supporters were closer to laughter than anger.
He even blew the final whistle too early and the linesman had to tell him there was still 5 minutes to play.
Yeah, I remember this. An incredible game for several reasons, the joke of a ref being one, Steve Stone pissing blood from his face being another.
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Anyone remember that reg in the Intertoto when we played Celta Vigo at the Hawthorns? Never seen such a display of utter incompetence to the point where both sides and sets of supporters were closer to laughter than anger.
He even blew the final whistle too early and the linesman had to tell him there was still 5 minutes to play.
Yes, he was probably the worst ref ever, but at least he was dreadful for both sides. Blew up after 85 minutes, sent off the wrong players and so on. But he was so bad that it was funny. Oh and I think Benni McCarthy scored against us.
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The one where Terry wasn't sent off after attacking Milner ranks highly for me.
The vidic and henry ones have been mentioned...
and the southampton one from last season, not just a poor decision but it felt like a kick in the balls after playing quite well in the midst of such an awful run of games.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3wxueCY7h
Henry goal is after about 2.50 of the clip
Think you've got the URL wrong mate, says video does not exist.
You've missed the letter 'k' off the end of the link. Original link worked for me. And watching it again has made me fume. Again.
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Henry goal is after about 2.50 of the clip
Second attempt!
The link should work now I've edited the post...
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Definitely Vidic in the LC final. I think that cost us the game. They should have been down to 10 men, but of course given the ref in charge of the game and the fact we played Utd, there was no chance.
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Agree with all the above.One decision at Chelsea away a few years ago really pissed me off at the time.Angel was clean through on goal-the last Chelsea player (probably Terry-but not sure ) was all over Angel, virtually getting a piggy bag ride from our striker.Referee blows up-decision book Angel.
Someone with a better memory might know the Ref and defender.
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Nobody mentioned the Enckleman "own goal" v the filth yet? No way any referee should have given anything but a corner - Step up David fucking Elleray! >:(
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One for those with longer (bitter memories) - League Cup semi 1st leg at Goodison in 1984. 1-0 down - header from a Villa player from a corner (can't remember who), saved on the line by the plaster cast on Kevin Richardson's arm. They went on to win 2-0 and we won the second leg 1-0 (Rideout).
Seen by the whole ground apart from the referee.
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About 10 different Paul Scholes knee-high tackles in different games where he inevitably scores the winners.
Would this be the same Paul Scholes that if you breathe heavily near him just looks at the ref and gets a free kick?
Not sure I think that guy's name is something Gerrard - sprawls spread eagled like he has been clotheslined in WCW
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Agree with all the above.One decision at Chelsea away a few years ago really pissed me off at the time.Angel was clean through on goal-the last Chelsea player (probably Terry-but not sure ) was all over Angel, virtually getting a piggy bag ride from our striker.Referee blows up-decision book Angel.
Someone with a better memory might know the Ref and defender.
I think we've had the shaft a few times with decisions against us involving Terry. He's a fucking filthy player and he gets away with a lot.
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This one is remembered by a few of us here.
Pat McMahon goal that never was at Leicester near the end of the 1969/70 season.
Hit a powerful low shot into the net which beat Shilton and bounced straight back out off the back stanchion.
Villa players start to celebrate then the referee says play on !
Leicester hit the ball up the other end and score.
Total pandemonium all round, the referee realises he has messed up. I think he gave a drop ball somewhere in the middle of the park.
I can still to this day picture Shilton - while players from both teams were surrounding the ref - quietely going into the back of the net to wipe the mud left by ball off the stanchion.
Leicester went on to win 1-0 that night. A few weeks later Villa were relegated to the 3rd division.
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Remember the Hawthorns Celta Vigo game. One player was sent off for taking a throw-in, I think.
I hope the memory banks are correct, but I went to Derby v Villa at the Baseball Ground sometime in the 70's - Villa "scored", but the net wasn't properly tied down behind the goal line and the ball popped out of the back of the net. No goal given. Anyone else see this?
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Anyone remember that reg in the Intertoto when we played Celta Vigo at the Hawthorns? Never seen such a display of utter incompetence to the point where both sides and sets of supporters were closer to laughter than anger.
He even blew the final whistle too early and the linesman had to tell him there was still 5 minutes to play.
Yes, he was probably the worst ref ever, but at least he was dreadful for both sides. Blew up after 85 minutes, sent off the wrong players and so on. But he was so bad that it was funny. Oh and I think Benni McCarthy scored against us.
Benni McCarthy - do you think we have a chance of signing him?
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Remember the Hawthorns Celta Vigo game. One player was sent off for taking a throw-in, I think.
I hope the memory banks are correct, but I went to Derby v Villa at the Baseball Ground sometime in the 70's - Villa "scored", but the net wasn't properly tied down behind the goal line and the ball popped out of the back of the net. No goal given. Anyone else see this?
Yep - my first away game. It was just after Bruce Rioch moved to Derby from Villa. We lost 1-0 IIRC charlie George getting the only goal that counted.
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One for those with longer (bitter memories) - League Cup semi 1st leg at Goodison in 1984. 1-0 down - header from a Villa player from a corner (can't remember who), saved on the line by the plaster cast on Kevin Richardson's arm. They went on to win 2-0 and we won the second leg 1-0 (Rideout).
Seen by the whole ground apart from the referee.
Good shout. I remember that one too. It was from a Gary Shaw header if my memory is correct. What was worse was the fact that he didn't see it as a penalty, but still saw it well enough to give us another corner.
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Some notable mentions must go to;
Michael Oakes being sent off at Blackburn for hand ball.
Enckelman's goal of the season / decade / millennium at the Sty
Terry's challenge on Milner at Wembley
Seem to remember Man U taking & scoring from a free kick about 20 yards from where the foul was & their inevitable comeback as a consequence.
But the worst piece of refereeing, by some distance, has to be Halsey's assist for Henry's free kick. The most blatant piece of favouritism I've seen on a football pitch. Watching that clip still boils my piss. The cnut actually encourages Henry to take it.
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Tim Sherwood using his arm to control the ball blatantly in the build up to scoring the winner for blackburn, completely ignored by the ref, who had also sent off Michael Oakes for NOT handling the ball outside his area, replays clearly showed. Scimeca had equalised minutes before the late winner.
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Anyone remember that reg in the Intertoto when we played Celta Vigo at the Hawthorns? Never seen such a display of utter incompetence to the point where both sides and sets of supporters were closer to laughter than anger.
He even blew the final whistle too early and the linesman had to tell him there was still 5 minutes to play.
Yeah, I remember this. An incredible game for several reasons, the joke of a ref being one, Steve Stone pissing blood from his face being another.
Dieter Schock from Switzerland. Should never have been allowed out the country of cuckoo clocks and after UEFA got the report I don't think he was. Total bonkers mental nutcase, one of the funniest nights I've ever had in a football ground.
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Home game against Forest 77/78 season. The score was 0-0 when Kenny "blue nose bastard" Burns clawed a header from Sid back from about two feet behind the goal line with his hand. Missed by ref and linesman. Forest went up the other end and scored. Still makes my blood boil even now, 35 years later. I think it's because of who was involved.
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Home game against Forest 77/78 season. The score was 0-0 when Kenny "blue nose bastard" Burns clawed a header from Sid back from about two feet behind the goal line with his hand. Missed by ref and linesman. Forest went up the other end and scored. Still makes my blood boil even now, 35 years later. I think it's because of who was involved.
Yes, remember that aswell. Forest won the League that year and I think the winner was in the last minute at the Holte from Tony Woodcock. I was in the North Stand that night and it was a long way over the line.
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The Halsey/Arsenal decision was the one for me. I left the ground feeling genuinely robbed of the money I'd paid to get in - it was beyond diabolical. It shows how referees (as if we didn't know already) can completely dictate the result of a match. I'm still shaking my head thinking about it.
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In all the ridicule that we endured for conceding the goal and not knowing the rule ourselves (so somewhat deserved ridicule to be fair) , David Ellarey got away with hardly any criticism for the Enckelman goal. On the other side of the coin, if the ref had sent off all the Barcelona players he should have done in the super cup at VP, the game would have been abandoned.
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The Halsey/Arsenal decision was the one for me. I left the ground feeling genuinely robbed of the money I'd paid to get in - it was beyond diabolical. It shows how referees (as if we didn't know already) can completely dictate the result of a match. I'm still shaking my head thinking about it.
I remember Mac posted a photoshopped gif of a gleeful Halsey watching the free kick being taken wearing an Arsenal shirt.
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
The following week they played Chelsea, and justice was served in sorts as Chelsea cheated them out of a win with a dive for a penalty or something, to which the brummie red was gutted and all 'we should be top of the league and have been cheated out of two points' At every opportunity i pointed out that their points tally was correct and that he was a dick.
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My dad says a ref blew up for full time, as a shot was about to go over the line
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My dad says a ref blew up for full time, as a shot was about to go over the line
David Platt overhead kick at Stamford Bridge - ref blew for half time just before it hit the net. We assumed it had missed and come back off the staunchion til we saw it later.
Worst ref for me was always Elleray - any number of bad decision against us (Enckelman, penalty at Sunderland after a Sunderland player handled it), closely followed by Gunner Halsey and Dowd.
The Ashely Young "penalty" at Old Trafford two years ago was bad too -cant remember the ref.
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We played Bolton, I think, in the MON era and just before half time we won a corner that was cleared with a punch by one of their defenders. The only person in the whole ground to miss it was the ref. It was laughable how it wasn't a penalty. Fortunately, for the ref at least, we thrashed them in the second half and we won by three or four.
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
Beat me to it glasses...
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Not sending off Vidic in the Cup Final. Was the worst decision I've ever seen by any ref. Dowd couldn't blame being unsighted, unsure or anything else like that. He based his decision purely on not wanting to upset their manager, then lied about it not being a goal-scoring opportunity in a pathetic attempt to cover himself.
have to go with this one, simply because of the occasion.
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Gabby's so called foul on Terry, when Terry just bounced off him.
The resulting free kick ended up with a goal to them!!
Both ref and linesman cocked that one up.
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We played Bolton, I think, in the MON era and just before half time we won a corner that was cleared with a punch by one of their defenders. The only person in the whole ground to miss it was the ref. It was laughable how it wasn't a penalty. Fortunately, for the ref at least, we thrashed them in the second half and we won by three or four.
Cahill was the defender.
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But the worst piece of refereeing, by some distance, has to be Halsey's assist for Henry's free kick. The most blatant piece of favouritism I've seen on a football pitch. Watching that clip still boils my piss. The cnut actually encourages Henry to take it.
I was bought that ticket by my GF for my birthday and for some reason she came with me.
My piss boiled so much all day after that , and on the way home , moaning and moaning in the car to the GF . Having a nephew that changed from Villa to Arsenal the week before didnt help and my GF has never been to another Villa game since with me , she could not believe how upset I was and said I took it really badly and was no fun to be with .
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The ref in the home leg of the UEFA Cup match against Trabzonspor in 1994/5. He let them get away with WWE tactics.
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The Henry free kick was the first to spring to mind when I saw the thread. The ref at that Celta Vigo match wins hands down though, he didn't seem to have a clue what he was doing.
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
This one for me. The bastard asked for the free kick after coming out of his dive and ref looked at him and obliged.
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Don't forget the ref in the 3.0 loss at Inter. Bought hook line and sinker.
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any one remember Peter Schemeicel getting thrown in the goal against Leicester before the scored . I think it was by Aki Badboy
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I've mentioned this bloke on here before, Pat Partridge. He gave so many bad decisions against us you couldn't fucking count them!
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Worst ref for me was always Elleray - any number of bad decision against us (Enckelman, penalty at Sunderland after a Sunderland player handled it), closely followed by Gunner Halsey and Dowd.
Spot on if you'll excuse the pun. Kevin Phillips red & white clad arm above his head against Delaney all clad in pale blue. Elleray gives penalty and 3 points to Sunderland.
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Poll giving Chelsea that free kick that led to the only goal in the worst FA Cup final ever! We were so negative and have never forgiven old Grecian for his tactics but that was never a free kick. I never liked Poll, the first ever celebrity ref.
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I've mentioned this bloke on here before, Pat Partridge. He gave so many bad decisions against us you couldn't fucking count them!
I've mentioned this bloke on here before, Pat Partridge. He gave so many bad decisions against us you couldn't fucking count them!
Was he the man in the middle for QPR at home this season-shocking referee
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Not sending off Vidic in the Cup Final. Was the worst decision I've ever seen by any ref. Dowd couldn't blame being unsighted, unsure or anything else like that. He based his decision purely on not wanting to upset their manager, then lied about it not being a goal-scoring opportunity in a pathetic attempt to cover himself.
I am with Percy verbatim.
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I've mentioned this bloke on here before, Pat Partridge. He gave so many bad decisions against us you couldn't fucking count them!
I've mentioned this bloke on here before, Pat Partridge. He gave so many bad decisions against us you couldn't fucking count them!
Was he the man in the middle for QPR at home this season-shocking referee
No Franky, this tosser dates back to the seventies. A special friend of Brian Clough's...allegedly.
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This one is remembered by a few of us here.
Pat McMahon goal that never was at Leicester near the end of the 1969/70 season.
Hit a powerful low shot into the net which beat Shilton and bounced straight back out off the back stanchion.
Villa players start to celebrate then the referee says play on !
Leicester hit the ball up the other end and score.
Total pandemonium all round, the referee realises he has messed up. I think he gave a drop ball somewhere in the middle of the park.
I can still to this day picture Shilton - while players from both teams were surrounding the ref - quietely going into the back of the net to wipe the mud left by ball off the stanchion.
Leicester went on to win 1-0 that night. A few weeks later Villa were relegated to the 3rd division.
My memory of this game is that it was a Saturday night match (not afternoon). It was misty and the ref was struggling IIRC.
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Kevin Richardsons handball on the line in the League Cup Semi at Goddison in 84. I was right alongside that and it's still incredible it wasn't given to this day - he's just scored at the other end to make matters worse. We just referred to him as handball for years after until he joined us.
Ronnie Rosenthal giving the most blatant swan dive you'll ever see to win the obligatory penalty at Klanfield (surprise) in the early 90's. Just threw himself to the ground with Macca about two feet away, Ref bought it and all the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans did the diving motion for the rest of the game - pathetic and i've hated them every since.
Obviously the Halsey free kick routine but I wasn't at that game.
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Barry got sent off vs Portsmouth opening day of the season when they'd just come up. He got red for swearing at th linesman for getting the throw in wrong.
It annoyed me that everyone was so happy for them to win in the media? Also why did this ref decide to apply a rule which us never ever applied anywhere else.
Jay Rodriguez last season too, never forget.
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Michael Oakes' sending off at Blackburn 1997=8-ish. Totally wrong, & to make it worse uber-tosser Tim Sherwood got the winner in injury time.
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Barry got sent off vs Portsmouth opening day of the season when they'd just come up. He got red for swearing at th linesman for getting the throw in wrong.
It annoyed me that everyone was so happy for them to win in the media? Also why did this ref decide to apply a rule which us never ever applied anywhere else.
Jay Rodriguez last season too, never forget.
I wonder what GB actually said to the linesman that day - he did not look particularly surprised at the decision. In fact the whole incident took on a surreal quality given Barry's temperament and "previous".
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Remember the Hawthorns Celta Vigo game. One player was sent off for taking a throw-in, I think.
I hope the memory banks are correct, but I went to Derby v Villa at the Baseball Ground sometime in the 70's - Villa "scored", but the net wasn't properly tied down behind the goal line and the ball popped out of the back of the net. No goal given. Anyone else see this?
Yep - my first away game. It was just after Bruce Rioch moved to Derby from Villa. We lost 1-0 IIRC charlie George getting the only goal that counted.
Thanks. Proof that I'm not losing it.
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Michael Oakes' sending off at Blackburn 1997=8-ish. Totally wrong, & to make it worse uber-tosser Tim Sherwood got the winner in injury time.
I was talking to Dermot Gallagher who was ref that day. He said that he'd get stick from Villa fans when he reffed our games after the sending off and it wasn't fair because it was the linesman who gave the handball against Oakes and not him.
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Not sending off Vidic in the Cup Final. Was the worst decision I've ever seen by any ref. Dowd couldn't blame being unsighted, unsure or anything else like that. He based his decision purely on not wanting to upset their manager, then lied about it not being a goal-scoring opportunity in a pathetic attempt to cover himself.
I am with Percy verbatim.
Quite correct.
If a similar incident occurs next season now Moyes is their manager, you can bet your mortgage the outcome will be less favourable for them.
Its going to come as a big shock to them when they realise the ref is no longer in Fergusons pocket.
They'll be even more upset when they work out he'll be in Mourinhos instead.
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we got quite a few fecking piss poor refs last season. I said around Feb time that Lambert had to be the unluckiest manager we have had, I think after that woeful Rodriguez one. Thankfully we got a few things even out after that, but the 2 penalties up at Man City still rankles, as do the offside goals at Old Trafford, or Terry not being sent off in the Chelsea game at VP long before Benteke had the chance to try and control a ball near his chest, that Terry knew he could get Tekkers sent off for. The ref was weak as Allan Partridge on steroids that day too.
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Remember the Hawthorns Celta Vigo game. One player was sent off for taking a throw-in, I think.
I hope the memory banks are correct, but I went to Derby v Villa at the Baseball Ground sometime in the 70's - Villa "scored", but the net wasn't properly tied down behind the goal line and the ball popped out of the back of the net. No goal given. Anyone else see this?
Yep - my first away game. It was just after Bruce Rioch moved to Derby from Villa. We lost 1-0 IIRC charlie George getting the only goal that counted.
Thanks. Proof that I'm not losing it.
You could both be losing it.
I am.
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
The following week they played Chelsea, and justice was served in sorts as Chelsea cheated them out of a win with a dive for a penalty or something, to which the brummie red was gutted and all 'we should be top of the league and have been cheated out of two points' At every opportunity i pointed out that their points tally was correct and that he was a dick.
I can still see Gerrard pushing the ball one side of a Villa defender, runnning the other side of him and going down like a bag of shit, no contact involved. And the ref bought it! I had a long exchange online with a lpool fan who maintained that's how you win games!
Our 3-1 win away last season was extra sweet!
Twunt!
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Paul Alcock adding on loads of time then Lee Dixon equalizing when we could have gone top of the league against Arsenal still annoys me. Sure it was Alcock. Might have been Riley even back then. He was rubbish too.
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Kevin Richardson at Goodison '84
Henry free kick. Thanks Mr Halsey
Vidic at Wembley
That penalty Southampton were awarded last season.
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I remember Bryan Robson of Man Yanoited treading on the ball at Villa Park and getting a penalty, about 1991 I think at a guess?
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
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I always thought Melchiot bought that free-kick in the Cup Final incredibly cheaply. I'm not saying you haven't seen them given, but...I'd still walk a mile over broken glass to shit on that bloke's cereal.
Other than the ones that have been mentioned, I dimly recall a 1-0 loss to Bolton in the 2000's where we battered them senseless and they won 1-0 from a dodgy penalty - Gary Speed, I think. I can't quite remember the incident but I remember being very aggrieved, but that could be because we didn't win.
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
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Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd
To be fair, he wasn't in the least bit interested until the linesman told him about something that he imagined that he saw.
At that point, there's not really much he can do other than go with it.
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Surely the decision by the OT pet referee to play 7 minutes of injury time that allowed Manu to equalise and score the winner against Sheffield Wednesday has to be one of the worst?
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One of the biggest impacting refereeing travesties in our history didn't even happen in a Villa game.
I give you Mike Peck. Man Utd V Sheffield Weds. 1993.
The original 'its ok Fergie, we'll just carry on till you score'.
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Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd
To be fair, he wasn't in the least bit interested until the linesman told him about something that he imagined that he saw.
At that point, there's not really much he can do other than go with it.
True Dave.
I'm still pretty fu**in' miffed though at Olsson and Woy's actions/words afterwards though and wish both of the lying twats much bad shit. :D
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At least with the Gerrard one where he dived and then scored the cheating freekick, there was a sense of some justice.
He said after the game "sometimes these things go for you and sometimes they don't, these things even themselves out over the course of a season".
Then Chelsea got a ridiculous penalty the week afterwards to beat them and "Stevie G" had forgotten that it was just 'these things even themselves out over the course of a season'. ;D
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
This one for me. The bastard asked for the free kick after coming out of his dive and ref looked at him and obliged.
Yes - Stan was the offender. This is Stan who never made a tackle in the first 2 years so by definition couldn't have fouled the cheating fuppin twunt.
One of the worst was that Malcolm Christie goal for Boro - he even stopped himself (as he was about 2 metres offside) to check the lino hadn;t given it offside. Think ref evened it up when he gave us a pen in the 2nd half for a baltant dive - I think that was by Stan IIRC.
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
I'm still angry about that.
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
From where I sit in the holte it looked like Herd kicked out and I could understand at the time why he got a red card.
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That complete cock end Halsey making our wall go back 10 yards whilst shielding the ball from Henry with his fat body. Then quickly steps out of the way (As he must have been requested to do by Henry) and Henry puts it into the net whilst no one was ready
I remember an image being shopped of him where you could see the corner of an Arsenal shirt under his ref one - tosser
Oh and that piece of shit from the baggies not being executed on the spot for breaking Cropleys leg at VP
The only decision, that has led me to ring a radio station and rant is the Henry free kick one so I'll go with that. In all the discussion of it afterwards and a number of supposedly similar incidents the BBC pulled out of the archives, the one thing that was clear was that in none of the other examples did the ref actually stand in the way and interfere with the play in the way Halsey did (All the other ref's stepped aside and gave the defending team a clear view of what was happening at least! before they blew the whistle).
I'm over it now though......(He lies!).
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
From where I sit in the holte it looked like Herd kicked out and I could understand at the time why he got a red card.
I agree, I can understand why it was given, the ref was conned completely, that woy and olsson were so blatant in lying about it on TV was what pissed me off the most, and the fact that the red card was upheld and olsson didn't get punished. I find it utterly pathetic that there is still a rule that says the FA can't undermine the ref by changing a decision after the fact, everyone in the world can see it was the wrong call but an out of date rule means players are getting away with it. The Mcmanaman one against Newcastle last year being as good an example as you'll see, there is no way to justify him not receiving a ban for that.
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The red card was rescinded wasn't it ?
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
From where I sit in the holte it looked like Herd kicked out and I could understand at the time why he got a red card.
I agree, I can understand why it was given, the ref was conned completely, that woy and olsson were so blatant in lying about it on TV was what pissed me off the most, and the fact that the red card was upheld and olsson didn't get punished. I find it utterly pathetic that there is still a rule that says the FA can't undermine the ref by changing a decision after the fact, everyone in the world can see it was the wrong call but an out of date rule means players are getting away with it. The Mcmanaman one against Newcastle last year being as good an example as you'll see, there is no way to justify him not receiving a ban for that.
Agree paul_e.
Appreciate that it may have looked like a kick/stamp from some angles. From my seat in the Witton Lane stand I couldn't see anything wrong or why he was sent off. The reason it may have looked like a kick/stamp is because Herd was trying to extricate his foot from Olsson's grip. That was clear on tv - Herd was proven innocent and had the red ruled out - and the testimony under oath in the post-match interviews means appropriate action should have been taken against Olsson.
Makes no fu**in' sense at all does it?
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Remember the Hawthorns Celta Vigo game. One player was sent off for taking a throw-in, I think.
I hope the memory banks are correct, but I went to Derby v Villa at the Baseball Ground sometime in the 70's - Villa "scored", but the net wasn't properly tied down behind the goal line and the ball popped out of the back of the net. No goal given. Anyone else see this?
Yep - my first away game. It was just after Bruce Rioch moved to Derby from Villa. We lost 1-0 IIRC charlie George getting the only goal that counted.
Thanks. Proof that I'm not losing it.
You could both be losing it.
I am.
I thought i'd lost it but then I had a rummage down the back of the settee and there it was - all green, sticky and covered in fluff!
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
From where I sit in the holte it looked like Herd kicked out and I could understand at the time why he got a red card.
I agree, I can understand why it was given, the ref was conned completely, that woy and olsson were so blatant in lying about it on TV was what pissed me off the most, and the fact that the red card was upheld and olsson didn't get punished. I find it utterly pathetic that there is still a rule that says the FA can't undermine the ref by changing a decision after the fact, everyone in the world can see it was the wrong call but an out of date rule means players are getting away with it. The Mcmanaman one against Newcastle last year being as good an example as you'll see, there is no way to justify him not receiving a ban for that.
Agree paul_e.
Appreciate that it may have looked like a kick/stamp from some angles. From my seat in the Witton Lane stand I couldn't see anything wrong or why he was sent off. The reason it may have looked like a kick/stamp is because Herd was trying to extricate his foot from Olsson's grip. That was clear on tv - Herd was proven innocent and had the red ruled out - and the testimony under oath in the post-match interviews means appropriate action should have been taken against Olsson.
Makes no fu**in' sense at all does it?
Not sure why I was convinced he had to serve a ban but the point still stands that Olsson deserved to be punished, bringing the game into disrepute if nothing else.
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Halsey letting Henry take a quick free kick at VP having told the Villa players to wait for the whistle.
Beat me to it. The cheating bastards.
i remember he almost beckoned him to take it! surprised he didn't join in the celebrations.
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One that hasn't been mentioned....Chris Herd getting sent off against WBA infront of the Holte End when we were 1 up. His only crime? Getting up after falling to the ground after a collision with Olsson.
That cnut Dowd was the ref on that occasion aswell!
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And...I've mentioned this on here before... both Olsson and Woy stated on MOTD that Herd had stamped on Olsson - he was cleared of the red 2 days later. So why wasn't some action taken against Olsson and Woy for telling complete lies on national tv? (and what made it possibly look like a stamp was Olsson holding Herd's foot!). So he lied about a fellow professional on Nat TV AND committed the offence in the first place!
Punishment from the FA: F**K ALL!
I came into the thread to post exactly that. Another dreadful decision by that fat fuck Dowd and pathetic that Woy and Olsson could go through with such slander on an interview and not even get a slap on the wrist from the FA. That whole day was shit.
From where I sit in the holte it looked like Herd kicked out and I could understand at the time why he got a red card.
To be fair to Dowd (not something I say very often), it was the Linesman that gave that.
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Surely the decision by the OT pet referee to play 7 minutes of injury time that allowed Manu to equalise and score the winner against Sheffield Wednesday has to be one of the worst?
One of the biggest impacting refereeing travesties in our history didn't even happen in a Villa game.
I give you Mike Peck. Man Utd V Sheffield Weds. 1993.
The original 'its ok Fergie, we'll just carry on till you score'.
Bang on, both of you!
What gets me most is the then instigation of 'Fergie time' likes it's an affectionate in joke and we should all be chuckling at the loveable old rougue. No, it's cheating, bullying and I'm glad the cnut has finally fucked off!
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Chris Herd sending off against Albion away a couple of years ago. I couldn't see a foul, even the Albion players were bemused.
Edit: didn't read the thread, already mentioned
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It was at Villa Park, not the Hawthorns.
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Steve Bruces goals were both very late weren't they?Our game had finished and they were 1-0 down, I hated watching that on MOTD
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The penalty at Man City is one of the poorest decisions I have seen in any football game, involving any team in the past twenty plus years.
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I once saw Fred Turnbull knocked on his back in his own penalty area and his arms were over his head as in a snow angel position. The ball then rolled over his hand; a situation he had no control over and the twat in charge gave a penalty! We lost. I can't remember who we were playing that day but it may have been the season we were relegated to the third division. It's nothing new.
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Mellbergs goal being ruled out at the Hawthorns which would have made it 2-0. A good foot and a half over the line, then Horsfield diving to win a free kick which they scored from. Both shockers
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Mellbergs goal being ruled out at the Hawthorns which would have made it 2-0. A good foot and a half over the line, then Horsfield diving to win a free kick which they scored from. Both shockers
Another Halsey special I believe.
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Barry got sent off vs Portsmouth opening day of the season when they'd just come up. He got red for swearing at th linesman for getting the throw in wrong.
It annoyed me that everyone was so happy for them to win in the media? Also why did this ref decide to apply a rule which us never ever applied anywhere else.
Jay Rodriguez last season too, never forget.
I wonder what GB actually said to the linesman that day - he did not look particularly surprised at the decision. In fact the whole incident took on a surreal quality given Barry's temperament and "previous".
Hadn't Barry shaved his head at that point too?
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Apologies if already mentioned. The Vidic one does still boil my piss. Also the Richardson handball in the SF and the Mellberg? header at the Yawnthorns that would have put us 2 up that went in and came back out and wasn't given. Think we drew 1-1 and the Bitter Birds had an open top parade around Smethwick to celebrate.
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Of the most recent ones, and there's been a few, that penalty vs Southampton was a blatant dive & another shocking decision was Halsey. However, what really pissed me off was Adkins defence of the player afterwards & comments along the lines of "there would have been contact if he hadn't move his leg". Anyway he got his reward shortly afterwards, cheating bastard.
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Olsson and Hodgson both claiming in interviews that Herd had stamped on Olsson. Lying bitter twats.
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Bitter Birds will never change.
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Old Trafford last season, all three goals were off side.
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Kevin Friends performance in our 3-2 home win v QPR last season. The most one sided 90mins I've ever seen from an official. Dodgy.
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Havent read the whole thread but this takes the crown for me.
http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/aston-villa-v-wba-chris-herd-red-card
Another Dowd classic cock up, penalty and red card for Herd because Dunne out jumps Olsson for a header.
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
The following week they played Chelsea, and justice was served in sorts as Chelsea cheated them out of a win with a dive for a penalty or something, to which the brummie red was gutted and all 'we should be top of the league and have been cheated out of two points' At every opportunity i pointed out that their points tally was correct and that he was a dick.
I can still see Gerrard pushing the ball one side of a Villa defender, runnning the other side of him and going down like a bag of shit, no contact involved. And the ref bought it! I had a long exchange online with a lpool fan who maintained that's how you win games!
Our 3-1 win away last season was extra sweet!
Twunt!
I'm pretty sure it was Petrov.
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One that still pisses me off, and possibly because I had several discussions about this with a brummie red in the weeks after, is Gerrard diving to win the free kick against us on the first day of the season a few years ago. Blatant dive, punished by an outstanding free kick in all fairness, but such a feeling of being cheated out of a credible point. (they were a good side then)
The following week they played Chelsea, and justice was served in sorts as Chelsea cheated them out of a win with a dive for a penalty or something, to which the brummie red was gutted and all 'we should be top of the league and have been cheated out of two points' At every opportunity i pointed out that their points tally was correct and that he was a dick.
I can still see Gerrard pushing the ball one side of a Villa defender, runnning the other side of him and going down like a bag of shit, no contact involved. And the ref bought it! I had a long exchange online with a lpool fan who maintained that's how you win games!
Our 3-1 win away last season was extra sweet!
Twunt!
I'm pretty sure it was Petrov.
I/m pretty sure you're right.
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It was at Villa Park, not the Hawthorns.
It's the only time they've beaten us since they came up.
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There was a goal against small heath that was wrongly disallowed for offside, possibly from Joachim. They beat us but it might have made a difference.
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It was at Villa Park, not the Hawthorns.
It's the only time they've beaten us since they came up.
They beat us twice (2-1 both times) in 2011.
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At least with the Gerrard one where he dived and then scored the cheating freekick, there was a sense of some justice.
He said after the game "sometimes these things go for you and sometimes they don't, these things even themselves out over the course of a season".
Then Chelsea got a ridiculous penalty the week afterwards to beat them and "Stevie G" had forgotten that it was just 'these things even themselves out over the course of a season'. ;D
I was going to mention this. What a delightful bit of Karma. He wasn't laughing the following week, the shitehawk
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The common denominator is Phil Fucking Dowd ! I wish he'd be struck off, i cannot abide with the grinning bastard
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It was at Villa Park, not the Hawthorns.
It's the only time they've beaten us since they came up.
They beat us twice (2-1 both times) in 2011.
I must be losing it too :/
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The thing that annoyed me most about the henry free-kick is that he had to move the ball to the right to get a better angle before hitting it. That's the thing I found most annoying about it. Halsey had the right to allow the free-kick to be taken quickly but not for Henry to be allowed to find a better angle from which to shoot.
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The thing that annoyed me most about the henry free-kick is that he had to move the ball to the right to get a better angle before hitting it. That's the thing I found most annoying about it. Halsey had the right to allow the free-kick to be taken quickly but not for Henry to be allowed to find a better angle from which to shoot.
Nah.... The worst thing was the fact that Hendrie was stood over the ball deliberately stopping them talking it quickly and Halsey waved him away calling for 10 yards.
It was terrifically biased.....
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If my memory serves me correctly, the Celta Vigo game played at the Hawthorn's was delayed because the referee was unhappy with the Villa player's socks as the two teams came out to kick off?
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The thing that annoyed me most about the henry free-kick is that he had to move the ball to the right to get a better angle before hitting it. That's the thing I found most annoying about it. Halsey had the right to allow the free-kick to be taken quickly but not for Henry to be allowed to find a better angle from which to shoot.
Nah.... The worst thing was the fact that Hendrie was stood over the ball deliberately stopping them talking it quickly and Halsey waved him away calling for 10 yards.
It was terrifically biased.....
The one point someone told me was Halsey had the use and run of the Arsenal training ground and he knew the team extremely well. They must have practiced that in training
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Hi Ez.
I think the goal you are talking about was by Vassell against SHA in the infamous 'Elleray' match.
Vassell's goal was perfectly legitimate but DE disallowed it but then allowed the famous Encklemann non-goal.
No action was taken against DE for his incompetence, of course.
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Any decision ever given against is by big phat phucking Phil 'Downing'* Dowd. I really dislike him - you can just tell he's one of these would-be bouncers who became a referee for the power trip.
*No real connection, just the most insulting thing I could think of.
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The home game against Ipswich when we won the league. Gary Shaw being hacked down in the penalty area by an Ipswich player and no penalty given.
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There was an FA cup game on the telly away at Bolton in about 1994. They got a ridiculous free kick and scored from it to win.
I remain convinced the TV companies have a hand in influencing refereeing televised games with a cup upset angle.
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Halsey's assist stepping over Henry's free kick & Celta Vigo ref standout but going for a different one would be back in the 80's, sure we lost by the odd goal to Liverpool with Ronnie Whelan scoring a free kick taken about 10 yards from the offence.
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There was an FA cup game on the telly away at Bolton in about 1994. They got a ridiculous free kick and scored from it to win.
I remain convinced the TV companies have a hand in influencing refereeing televised games with a cup upset angle.
I went that day, it was only a few days after Tranmere away. Felt like the whole season had caved in inside a week.
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The penalty at home to Southampton last season was pretty outrageous.
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In addition to that very strange performance by the Swiss guy at the Hawthorns, Shearer pulling back Bosnich just before he cleared the ball which allowed Clark to lob the ball back over his head and in.
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Semi final at Wembley against Chelsea.
John Terry nearly snapped Milner's leg in half and not even a free kick given.
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Semi final at Wembley against Chelsea.
John Terry nearly snapped Milner's leg in half and not even a free kick given.
In fairness it was because he played advantage and he did book him after. Blatant red though. Just one more reason to hate John Terry.
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Apparently Dowd failed the referee's fitness test in the summer and has lost loads of weight, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to referee any games this season. I don't think this sudden weight loss will stop him from being shit though.
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That ManUre win against Sheff Weds when the ref added all that time on , basically play until you score the winner . Cost us the league. Grrrrrrr.
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That ManUre win against Sheff Weds when the ref added all that time on , basically play until you score the winner . Cost us the league. Grrrrrrr.
Still makes me mad too
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With the OT 7 minutes one, the original ref went down injured and had to be replaced which caused the extra time to be played. The main culprit with that match and the goals scored in that time is Nigel Worthington. Both times he was supposed to be guarding the post that Bruce scored into. Both times he just stood there as if he was waiting for a bus and especially the second one, didn't even watch the ball come over and sail over his head.
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The Pen against City last year was shocking
An oldie was V Inter Milan in the Uefa cup they scored a goal from a cross but the ball was miles past the line when it was crossed back in.More Linesman than Ref though
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Has to be the non penalty at home to Southampton last season?
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Halsey helping Henry by standing over the ball on a free kick.
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Not in the same class as some of the incidents already named, but I remember Staunton getting booked for time wasting, after kicking the ball about 6" wide off the opposition player waiting to take a throw-in, seemed harsh to say the least.
Can't remember who we were playing, but Stan was about level with the edge of the six yard box, in front of the Holte End, oddly on the Trinity side of the pitch, so in the right back position. Oppo player was about half way between the penalty area and ½ way line.
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Hi Andy Lochhead in the air!
I enjoyed your contribution re the Pat McMahon Goal That Never Was at Filbert Street.
My recollection of this game was that, in the pre-live TV times, the game kicked off at 7:00pm.
I have never been able to find out why this was the case -do you know?
I only mention it because the floodlights -and horrible rain -may have had some influence on what the ref 'saw'. Had the game had a 3 o'clock kick-off, it might habe made a vital difference.
I recall the Filbert Street nets and stanchions were pretty shallow as well which doesn't help. In fact, the next season, Portsmouth scored a perfectly good goal on the same ground but it was disallowed as the officials hadn't seen it go in and rebound out off the stanchion!
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Nobody was screaming for the introduction of technology after this:
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West Ham F A cup quarter final 1981.The ref was bunged something that day.
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West Ham F A cup quarter final 1981.The ref was bunged something that day.
Was that 1980? I thought we lost to Ipswich in 1981
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Two from me which had me storming out of the ground at the end, both already mentioned i think.
The Ronnie Rosenthal non-penalty at Anfield in 91-92 (Karmas a bitch though as we all know what happened the seasonafter!)
The Paul Danson game against Forest. Now Townsend didn't leave him too many options but it had to be the most inept display of refereeing I've ever seen for the whole 90 minutes. I work with a Forest fan and even he bangs on about how bad Danson was despite him going mental with their 93rd minute equaliser.
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I actually think the answer to the thread question happens every time Dowd is selected as a Ref for our game. That is a terrible refereeing decision against us.
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West Ham F A cup quarter final 1981.The ref was bunged something that day.
Was that 1980? I thought we lost to Ipswich in 1981
We did, and there was a blatant handball in the build up to the Ipswich goal in that game, which is ironic given the non-handball in the West Ham match.
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I actually think the answer to the thread question happens every time Dowd is selected as a Ref for our game. That is a terrible refereeing decision against us.
And we had him more than any other ref last season - 5 times.
Surprisingly: W 2; D 2; L 1
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Nobody was screaming for the introduction of technology after this:
I think Les Sealey was, but he might just have been screaming...