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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: sonlyme on June 16, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
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Here's an interesting link for all you Joe Bennett doubters. A left back - represented Spain at U16 - U18 - U20 - and U21. 22 years old. Loaned out to Mallorca last season. Fits the profile.
Read more http://avillafan.com/site/6329/fee-agreed-for-antonio-luna-spanish-media/ (http://avillafan.com/site/6329/fee-agreed-for-antonio-luna-spanish-media/)
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Here's an interesting link for all you Joe Bennett doubters. A left back - represented Spain at U16 - U18 - U20 - and U21. 22 years old. Loaned out to Mallorca last season. Fits the profile.
Read more http://avillafan.com/site/6329/fee-agreed-for-antonio-luna-spanish-media/ (http://avillafan.com/site/6329/fee-agreed-for-antonio-luna-spanish-media/)
Think I will just have 'Luna' on the shirt-it should save a few quid.
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Welcome to the Villa, Tony Moon!
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It's not definite yet, so let's leave this thread until then.
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@thegoalzone: Villa have signed Sevilla left back Antonio Luna on a three-year deal #avfc
@MatKendrick: Pleased to meteor: Antonia Luna joins Aston Villa from Sevilla on a 3-year deal #avfc
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3215194,00.html
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Antonio Luna is relishing the prospect of becoming the latest in an impressive line of Spanish imports to compete in the Barclays Premier League having completed a move from La Liga's Sevilla.
The 22-year-old left-sided full back has agreed a three-year deal to 2016 and acknowledged that the history and traditions of
Villa combined with the exciting potential inherent in the youthful, aspiring squad assembled by manager Paul Lambert were determining factors in his decision.
"I've always believed that I could play in the Premier League and to have this opportunity with a club as historic and huge as Aston Villa and with a manager who is building a squad of young players with great prospects is tremendously exciting for me," Luna said.
"I really can't wait to get started and to play my first game. I have a great expectation coming here.
"The manager explained to me that it is a young squad but also one with good experience and everyone is hungry, everybody wants to succeed here. This is perfect because I am keen to make progress myself and I want to be part of this.
"My background will help me and I will use all this experience to help the team. I know the mentality here and we will all work hard as players, we will all work together to push Aston Villa to the highest level possible.
"Obviously, I have watched Premier League games and I am totally aware of the pace of the game and that the challenge is to constantly be at the maximum and top of your performance.
"There have been many good and great players from Spain who have come here and succeeded and I know I can adapt my game also. The quality of football in La Liga is also respected everywhere and this is why I believe I can do well in the Premier League."
Luna appeared four times for Sevilla last season before going out on loan to Real Mallorca. He came through the Sevilla youth system, making 32 appearances for their B side before graduating to the first team in May 2010.
His first two appearances for Sevilla were both in key games, with his debut coming in the final game of the La Liga season against Almeira in which Sevilla clinched Champions League qualification and his second game coming in the 2-0 victory over Atletico Madrid in the Copa Del Rey final.
He made two appearances for Sevilla in 2010-11 before joining Almeria on loan in January. He made a further 13 league appearances for Almeria. In 2011-12 he returned to Sevilla and played in 14 games in his first full season at the club, scoring one goal against Malaga in a game in which he played on the left wing.
Luna has played for Spain at several age-group levels, most recently making five appearances for the under-20 side, including three at the FIFA under-20 World Cup in Colombia in a Spanish side featuring players such as Isco, Cristian Tello and Oriol Romeu.
Spain were knocked out at the quarter-final stage by eventual winners Brazil who featured current Premier League stars Oscar and Philippe Coutinho.
"Roberto Carlos was my idol growing up, playing in my position for Real Madrid," Luna added.
"I know that a change of culture and environment is something I must now get used to but I'm looking forward to this, I'm looking forward to picking up the language and to experiencing everything of my new environment and culture in a short time."
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Good to have a bloke with a beard. Hope he is better though than the last bearded Spaniard who played full back for us. Welcome Mr Luna
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Really excited with this one in particular, probably him and Okore have been the most promising of the latest flurry of transfer activity we've had. Represented Spain a few times, which is no mean feat considering the standard of their youth setup right now. Bennett was exploited down that left a fair few times last season, Norwich away springs to mind in particular. Hopefully his distribution will be a little better than what we've seen there for a while aswell. (also he's got a class name, very chant-conducive.) Roll on next season!
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I'm over the moon!
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Welcome Luna Tune.
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One small step for Villa, one giant step for Antonio.
Welcome to B6. Do us proud son.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg
Welcome Luna
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
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Another signing. No messing from PL so far. Better to get them in from the start than last minutes deals.
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
How did you get the picture to show...I tried it above you and it only show as a link.
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We like these 3 year deals don't we.
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
How did you get the picture to show...I tried it above you and it only show as a link.
Voodoo.
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He looks about 35. That should keep the folks here happy who want an experienced defender. We'll just keep quiet on his actual age.
Unless he's pulling a Taribo West?
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5 new players in and it's not even July yet. What is this parallel universe we are now in?
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
How did you get the picture to show...I tried it above you and it only show as a link.
Voodoo.
Wooooooow!
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
Our first "Vista de Luna"
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Does anyone else remember "Luna" staring Patsy Kensit ?
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Competition for Bennetts place can only be a good thing.
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He looks about 35. That should keep the folks here happy who want an experienced defender. We'll just keep quiet on his actual age.
Unless he's pulling a Taribo West?
Is He behind the shirt?
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Is he our first Spainiard?
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Is he our first Spainiard?
Cuellar?
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Bienvenido Senor Luna. From se-villa to the Villa, welcome.
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I believe he is. It's a small place between Sandwell and dudley called spaiain
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I have this repetitive twitch in my face whenever I say "Luna". Is it a Luna Tic?
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Welcome Antonio, hope you bring Spanish quality to Villa.
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Villa have now spent @ Ł10m on 5 young, talented, up and coming players. WHU spent Ł15.5m on a replica horse.
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Shine on
Shine on Toni Moon. La la la laaaaaaa.
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Bloody hell, another player. It's a nice feeling.
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Add Gardner to this list and that's a big change of personnel. I wonder if this was Lambert's budget and he has to generate anything else himself.
They won't all come off, but if 50% do then he'll have done well.
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Another one in. Bloody fantastic. ;)
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
Me, probably because its much harder to produce a YouTube video of a left back that can impress in the same way as one for a striker or attacking midfielder. Also coming from a recently relegated team (he was at Mallorca wasn't he?) is going to dampen enthusiasm somewhat. Will be happy to eat my words mind. I trust lambert with signings like no other villa manager in all my years supporting the villa.
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
Probably because it is has been our weakest position and we was hoping for a player we know and not by someone who we no nothing about ?
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He is not just a You Tube player, far better.
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Seville is a good club to produce players.
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Just perusing the official website and came across this paragraph on his signing. (Copied word for word)
Luna arrived at Villa's training ground to agree terms, complete a medical and sign a **** deal.
We must really have cut back on wages!
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
How did you get the picture to show...I tried it above you and it only show as a link.
Voodoo.
Nice work on the piccy PWS.
Eastie, good to have you back.
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Obligatory shirt stretching photo.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a4/70/0,,10265~12021924,00.jpg)
How did you get the picture to show...I tried it above you and it only show as a link.
Voodoo.
Nice work on the piccy PWS.
Eastie, good to have you back.
He has never been away, just observing.
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Feels good to have a beardy on board. There should always be one at the Villa. Welcome Antonio!
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Bloody strange signing. There's next to nothing on his previous that stands out. Nothing. Lambert and his scouts have obviously identified something about him that makes him interesting. The fact he's an attacking full back obviously ticks the box for them but I do hope he can also defend.
I'm fascinated by this deal as it makes such little sense. Is he to replace Joe Bennett, is he Bennett's cover, will he play him as a wing back and go three across the back, I really don't know. It would be strange if Lambert has bought him in to replace Bennett. Competition? Most definitely. Maybe he's prepared to give Bennett one last go and give Luna time to settle in.
Anyway, welcome and do us proud, Antonio. Am I right in thinking he's our first 'Antonio'?
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Could it be that PL might be considering playing Bennett in midfield? Some of you on here reckon he'd be quite good as a left-sided midfielder. I can't comment as I haven't been at a match to see him live yet.
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Could it be that PL might be considering playing Bennett in midfield? Some of you on here reckon he'd be quite good as a left-sided midfielder. I can't comment as I haven't been at a match to see him live yet.
I doubt it.
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Antonio Morley.. Antonio Hateley...Antonio Dorigo!
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I like Bennett. Be interesting to see if Luna eclipses him as a left-back.
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Don't forget Antonio Scott, Ron.
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He's physically too weak as a left back let alone battling in midfield. I can still see him now being muscled off the ball by various Bradford players...
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Solid and highly rated by my mates in Spain - likes to attack - and could probably do with learning a bit about defensive positioning when we haven't got the ball.
Oh - we've signed the Spanish Joe Bennett.
This should be good.
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Merging these two threads.
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Bennett cost 4m right?
This lad has played 11 more top flight games than him and also played for Spain at various age groups and probably has cost half of the fee above.
Shows you what a drag it is signing British players even from the lower leagues now. Interesting PL is staying clear of the british market so far this summer.
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Solid and highly rated by my mates in Spain - likes to attack - and could probably do with learning a bit about defensive positioning when we haven't got the ball.
Oh - we've signed the Spanish Joe Bennett.
This should be good.
It has become pretty clear Lambert regards full backs as a big part of his attack and has no interest in defensive only full backs. Hence the clear out of some crap full backs but also some decent ones (Lijah) who are not attack minded.
So yeah, expect us to play that open style again next season. Goals ahoy at both ends! :)
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I could put up with numerous 4-2 victories next year. Just about.
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Welcome Antonio. Five signings, all from across the water. My my aren't we Continental now.
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I could put up with numerous 4-2 victories next year. Just about.
07/08 and 08/09 worked out alright for the most part.
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
I didn't get carried away with Matt Lowton either to be honest.
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It's new signing fatigue. Nurse!
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Welcome to Aston Villa Antonio.
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You can't win anything without beards - the jigsaw is now complete.
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Bienvenida a casa! LUNA Great signing and good to see Lambert has seen Bennett has nt made the grade and has acted quickly rather than carry on the risk. Being spainish Luna will not be one for just sideways passing in his own half and alsoo wont be misplacing passes grabbing shirts and reckless fouls. I reckon Luna can thrive linking up with the play going forward. Fair play to Bennett but i always suspected he was sub standard for premier league and bringing in a high quality promising Spain left back meant Lambert not afraid to say he got it wrong when he signs a player !
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Er,he's not wrong. Joe Bennett will crack it this season. He has the talent.
Im off to bed.
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Well i'm Team luna anyway gonna watch question time with Johnson and Brand comedy gold save this debate for another time but Luna be signed for a reason. we know what that is.
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
Me, probably because its much harder to produce a YouTube video of a left back that can impress in the same way as one for a striker or attacking midfielder. Also coming from a recently relegated team (he was at Mallorca wasn't he?) is going to dampen enthusiasm somewhat. Will be happy to eat my words mind. I trust lambert with signings like no other villa manager in all my years supporting the villa.
I have reasonable expectations for him and the others signed so far. Not bollocks media driven hype just signings which if integrated well fit our current mould.
And yes it probably is hard to produce such a video for a left back unless you really are The King
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Joe Bennett needs a summer in the gym to build up his upper body strength, and hopefully the experience gained last season will see him make fewer reckless decisions and passes in the future. Then we may still have a player who could cut it in the Premier League.
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Being spainish Luna will not be one for just sideways passing in his own half
I can only assume that you have never watched Spain play football.
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
Me, probably because its much harder to produce a YouTube video of a left back that can impress in the same way as one for a striker or attacking midfielder. Also coming from a recently relegated team (he was at Mallorca wasn't he?) is going to dampen enthusiasm somewhat. Will be happy to eat my words mind. I trust lambert with signings like no other villa manager in all my years supporting the villa.
I have reasonable expectations for him and the others signed so far. Not bollocks media driven hype just signings which if integrated well fit our current mould.
And yes it probably is hard to produce such a video for a left back unless you really are The King
Paolo Maldini was originally a right footed player but worked on his left foot when he was coming through the youth ranks.
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Bloody strange signing. There's next to nothing on his previous that stands out. Nothing. Lambert and his scouts have obviously identified something about him that makes him interesting. The fact he's an attacking full back obviously ticks the box for them but I do hope he can also defend.
I'm fascinated by this deal as it makes such little sense. Is he to replace Joe Bennett, is he Bennett's cover, will he play him as a wing back and go three across the back, I really don't know. It would be strange if Lambert has bought him in to replace Bennett. Competition? Most definitely. Maybe he's prepared to give Bennett one last go and give Luna time to settle in.
Anyway, welcome and do us proud, Antonio. Am I right in thinking he's our first 'Antonio'?
Er, how about to compete with Bennett for the LB spot, thus providing 2 player competition for every position? Doesn't seem that strange to me.
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Antonio Morley.. Antonio Hateley...Antonio Dorigo!
Dorigo and Cascarino work best as they're Italian surnames and Antonio is also an Italian name as well as Spanish.
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I dont know why but I cant get too interested in this deal. Anyone else feel the same way?
Me, probably because its much harder to produce a YouTube video of a left back that can impress in the same way as one for a striker or attacking midfielder. Also coming from a recently relegated team (he was at Mallorca wasn't he?) is going to dampen enthusiasm somewhat. Will be happy to eat my words mind. I trust lambert with signings like no other villa manager in all my years supporting the villa.
I have reasonable expectations for him and the others signed so far. Not bollocks media driven hype just signings which if integrated well fit our current mould.
And yes it probably is hard to produce such a video for a left back unless you really are The King
Paolo Maldini was originally a right footed player but worked on his left foot when he was coming through the youth ranks.
Indeed - he could have played anywhere aside from striker or in goal and he would have been great IMO. A genuine footballing genius.
If Luna is half as good I'll be more than very happy.
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Seems to be a bit more physical looking than Bennett. Looks like he could be his dad to be honest. It's good to have someone pushing Joe hard for his spot. The battle for our LB spot could be interesting. I'd be confident for starters that he'll be an improvement over Enda who's not Prem quality.
In Lambert I trust though. Who knows, this guy can also play left wing, so we may see a situation where both Luna and Bennett are playing in the same side.
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What I really like is that apart from Benteke and Guzan, I doubt any other player feels confident he will be in the starting 11 as we have competition for all other places now.
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What I really like is that apart from Benteke and Guzan, I doubt any other player feels confident he will be in the starting 11 as we have competition for all other places now.
And even Tekkers has Helenius and Bowery as gentle pressure to keep him hungry.
We could use a backup keeper if shay leaves though.
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Bennett cost 4m right?
Ł2.75m apparently.
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ˇBienvenido!
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ˇBienvenido!
What Doorbell said.
And remembering previous Antonios, there was Senor Daley.
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Antonio Luna @AntoniiioLuna
"i'm proud to be part of villa's family. I will work strong for this great club. Go Villans!"
I like this guy already.
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Like the cut of his jib.
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Welcome to the best club in the world Antonio
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Appears an excellent addition. Welcome Mr Luna.
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Antonio Luna @AntoniiioLuna
"i'm proud to be part of villa's family. I will work strong for this great club. Go Villans!"
I like this guy already.
Even spelt Villans as it should be (unlike Mr Woodhall!)
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What I really like is that apart from Benteke and Guzan, I doubt any other player feels confident he will be in the starting 11 as we have competition for all other places now.
And even Tekkers has Helenius and Bowery as gentle pressure to keep him hungry.
We could use a backup keeper if shay leaves though.
I think a keeper might be next in.
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I'm liking the amount of "us" and "we" in these first interview type things. It suggests that Lambert is really selling the team ethic to the new boys. Also the references to the "great history" etc must be coming from the top, good to see.
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I'm liking the amount of "us" and "we" in these first interview type things. It suggests that Lambert is really selling the team ethic to the new boys. Also the references to the "great history" etc must be coming from the top, good to see.
This is where I have to give old SirMoanalot at OT his dues. It was always about the team, the squad & the club - not himself or any specific player.
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What I really like is that apart from Benteke and Guzan, I doubt any other player feels confident he will be in the starting 11 as we have competition for all other places now.
And even Tekkers has Helenius and Bowery as gentle pressure to keep him hungry.
We could use a backup keeper if shay leaves though.
I think a keeper might be next in.
Some keeper at Brentford called Moore is apparently wanted by various Premier League clubs on SSN. No mention that we are one of those teams though.
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What I really like is that apart from Benteke and Guzan, I doubt any other player feels confident he will be in the starting 11 as we have competition for all other places now.
And even Tekkers has Helenius and Bowery as gentle pressure to keep him hungry.
We could use a backup keeper if shay leaves though.
I think a keeper might be next in.
Some keeper at Brentford called Moore is apparently wanted by various Premier League clubs on SSN. No mention that we are one of those teams though.
More on this developing story as we have it.
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Is he our first Spainiard?
Cuellar?
Si.
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Antonio Luna has spoken with real affection about the fans who have already taken him to their hearts.
Luna has been thrilled with the amount of support he has received from the claret and blue army on social media sites aswell as in person during pre-season games since making the move from Spain.
Luna is already somewhat of a cult figure with the fanbase.
Supporters on messageboards have given him the nickname Tony Moon, taken from the English derivates of his name.
And his appearance has also been lauded by online fans, with supporters hailing his bearded look, not seen in B6 since the departure of colossal defenders Olof Mellberg and Carlos Cuellar.
Smiling and laughing instantly, Luna said: "I know all about the name Tony Moon. I really, really like that. I love it. It's good fun. Well done to the fans on coming up with that.
"I am so pleased about it, really delighted. I am happy to be called Tony Moon here at Villa!
"I am really pleased with my beard too and it seems the fans like it.
"I believe the last people to have one here were Olof and Carlos. If they like it, I will grow it even longer!
"All joking aside, I am so happy to be close to the supporters already considering the short time I have been here at the club. It makes me proud.
"I am very pleased that they are happy with me and they have taken me to their hearts.
"The fans have just been great. They have been so kind with me with their messages of support. I am really happy with them.
"What is important to me now is that I work to my maximum for them to show them what I can do. I will give the club and the fans everything I can.
"I am part of a team, of course. It's not just me. We are here together and lifting each other together."
Luna says that huge support has extended to the dressing room at Bodymoor Heath, where the players have been "really kind" to welcome him.
He added: "I am very happy here. I have had a great welcome from everyone at the club. It's a great feeling in the team, there's a great togetherness and I love the city.
"It's such a good city. There's only one Spanish restaurant I have found at the moment but, importantly it's really, really good!
"But the lads have been really kind. They understand that for me it's complicated because I have moved from another country and I speak another language. But I feel really good here. I already feel at home."
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"I am really pleased with my beard too and it seems the fans like it.
"I believe the last people to have one here were Olof and Carlos. If they like it, I will grow it even longer!"
What a champ.
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Don't grow it to long Tony, Clark is already struggling in defense without getting tangled in your gandolph web.. :)
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He looked really good against Crewe the other night, (yes, I realise it is Crewe), but the one thing that stood out was his desire and willingness to work hard, something I think all of these new lads have in abundance.
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Any man who is prepared to do so much to further the cause of bearded footballers deserves our appreciation.
I always thought Dennis Mortimer was a magnificent beard-sporting player.
How much shitter would this brilliant goal (21:40) have looked without the combination of scruffy shirt flapping around plus superb beard?
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"It's such a good city. There's only one Spanish restaurant I have found at the moment but, importantly it's really, really good!
Is he talking about the one in Sutton Coldfield? If so then it's outstanding.
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He's looked good in pre-season so far. A bit more considered defensively than Bennett. He also looks more imposing, but he does have a beard, and Bennett is only 14. I think he'll be first choice this season.
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There's a Tapas bar around the corner from mine, in lovely Yardley. Can't say I've ever been there though.
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There's a Tapas bar around the corner from mine, in lovely Yardley. Can't say I've ever been there though.
It's very nice. Not cheap, but good food.
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There's a Tapas bar around the corner from mine, in lovely Yardley. Can't say I've ever been there though.
It's very nice. Not cheap, but good food.
Glad you said that Dave, been meaning to give that a try.
I like the one in Moseley.
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From what I saw of him in Germany, he is going to be popular. Lots of energy, brave, very attack minded.
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"It's such a good city. There's only one Spanish restaurant I have found at the moment but, importantly it's really, really good!
Is he talking about the one in Sutton Coldfield? If so then it's outstanding.
He is.
He tweeted a pic of it a while back
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Sounds like a proper caballero.
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Has he got a chant yet?
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Has he got a chant yet?
Yep.
His name is Antonio Luuuuuuna
I saw him eat a chicken bhuna
His favourite type of fish is tuna
He really is a total kahuna
He should be captain of a schooner
I wish we could have bought him soooner
Before we spunked that money away on that donkey Joe Bennett
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Has he got a chant yet?
Shine on, shine on Tony Moon,
Up in the sky,
Keep your beard long all through
January, February, June and July.
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He can't sing
He can't dance
But who cares?
He walks like Rhianna
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I'm interested in this guy more than anybody because left back was so iffy last season. I've only seen the goals from preseason but can anyone who has actually watched the games comment on him? I saw the group hug with him and Andi after he scored his beauty against Crewe and Tony looks pretty passionate about the course...could be one of those idolised fans fave.
Any info about him in terms of style of play, defending, attacking etc?
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Bloody hell, PWS, there's no need for that. Ever.
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Bloody hell, PWS, there's no need for that. Ever.
Always a need for a bit of Nephs *throws flour in the air while dancing on someone's shoulders*
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I'm interested in this guy more than anybody because left back was so iffy last season. I've only seen the goals from preseason but can anyone who has actually watched the games comment on him? I saw the group hug with him and Andi after he scored his beauty against Crewe and Tony looks pretty passionate about the course...could be one of those idolised fans fave.
Any info about him in terms of style of play, defending, attacking etc?
In the three games I've seen so far he looks a pretty uncompromising defender - determined to win the ball and stop his opponent, sometimes a bit physically. Fussy refs may pick him up for this more than he'd/we'd like. He loves getting forward and even had a goal disallowed at Crewe for offside, tapping in a rebound! Pretty giddy heights for a full back! And the Villa fans gave him massive support when he played on that side of the ground - even gave us a wave!
I think he's gonna be a good 'un.
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Fair play to Tone.
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So who is claiming Tony Moon first?
Now that its made the media I'm claiming it for the glory and honour of H&V.
Anybody know different?
Also, Jimbo wins the best chant. Inspired.
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I'm interested in this guy more than anybody because left back was so iffy last season. I've only seen the goals from preseason but can anyone who has actually watched the games comment on him? I saw the group hug with him and Andi after he scored his beauty against Crewe and Tony looks pretty passionate about the course...could be one of those idolised fans fave.
Any info about him in terms of style of play, defending, attacking etc?
In the three games I've seen so far he looks a pretty uncompromising defender - determined to win the ball and stop his opponent, sometimes a bit physically. Fussy refs may pick him up for this more than he'd/we'd like. He loves getting forward and even had a goal disallowed at Crewe for offside, tapping in a rebound! Pretty giddy heights for a full back! And the Villa fans gave him massive support when he played on that side of the ground - even gave us a wave!
I think he's gonna be a good 'un.
Cheers, I gather then he will be less frowned upon then Bennett and Warnock.
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I'm interested in this guy more than anybody because left back was so iffy last season. I've only seen the goals from preseason but can anyone who has actually watched the games comment on him? I saw the group hug with him and Andi after he scored his beauty against Crewe and Tony looks pretty passionate about the course...could be one of those idolised fans fave.
Any info about him in terms of style of play, defending, attacking etc?
In the three games I've seen so far he looks a pretty uncompromising defender - determined to win the ball and stop his opponent, sometimes a bit physically. Fussy refs may pick him up for this more than he'd/we'd like. He loves getting forward and even had a goal disallowed at Crewe for offside, tapping in a rebound! Pretty giddy heights for a full back! And the Villa fans gave him massive support when he played on that side of the ground - even gave us a wave!
I think he's gonna be a good 'un.
Cheers, I gather then he will be less frowned upon then Bennett and Warnock.
Already ahead of Bennett in my book, but we'll just have to wait and see how he does in the PL against quality players.
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I'm looking forward to watching him play sounds like he will be just what we are missing at left back.
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Will be interesting to see how Bennett reacts to the signing of Luna. The lad has got talent, hopefully he works hard at his game and we have real competition for the lb slot.
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I've been calling him Tony Eclipse ner ner nerrr!
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We've been missing a LB hero since Freddie B
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I'm looking forward to watching him play sounds like he will be just what we are missing at left back.
You won't be disappointed Darren.
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Fly me Tony Moon
Let me play among those stars
Let me see what spring is like
On a-Jupiter and Mars
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"It's such a good city. There's only one Spanish restaurant I have found at the moment but, importantly it's really, really good!
Is he talking about the one in Sutton Coldfield? If so then it's outstanding.
Maybe. He's living near the Mailbox, but struggling to think of a real good one in the city centre.
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"It's such a good city. There's only one Spanish restaurant I have found at the moment but, importantly it's really, really good!
Is he talking about the one in Sutton Coldfield? If so then it's outstanding.
Maybe. He's living near the Mailbox, but struggling to think of a real good one in the city centre.
Tasca in the Bullring .
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But Tony, we have the finest curries in Europe.
Once he makes his way to Saffron he won't remember what tapas looks like.
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But Tony, we have the finest curries in Europe.
Once he makes his way to Saffron he won't remember what tapas looks like.
serve him half a dozen tiny portions of curry, one after the other, and make him eat it with his fingers.
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Fly me Tony Moon
Let me play among those stars
Let me see what spring is like
On a-Jupiter and Mars
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me pass it to those stars
Let me see if Benteke
Can place it under the bar
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me pass to Ron Vlaar
Let me see if he can run
And score from 30 yards
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me tackle all those stars
Let me try to break his leg
Or kick him up his arse!
Not quite as epic as Paul McGrath my lord but room for development!
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I bet he was gutted when he realised that the Bullring is a shopping centre.
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Fly me Tony Moon
Let me play among those stars
Let me see what spring is like
On a-Jupiter and Mars
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me pass it to those stars
Let me see if Benteke
Can place it under the bar
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me pass to Ron Vlaar
Let me see if he can run
And score from 30 yards
Fly me Tony Moon
Let me tackle all those stars
Let me try to break his leg
Or kick him up his arse!
Not quite as epic as Paul McGrath my lord but room for development!
It's got promise!
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I bet he was gutted when he realised that the Bullring is a shopping centre.
"I was very appy to see that your bull ring contains more sharp blades than ours back home"
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Fly me Tony Moon
He is better than Kaka
Let him bomb down the left
And cross it to Sylla
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But Tony, we have the finest curries in Europe.
Once he makes his way to Saffron he won't remember what tapas looks like.
serve him half a dozen tiny portions of curry, one after the other, and make him eat it with his fingers.
Up in Edinburgh there's a restaurant styling themselves as 'Indian Tapas'. It's the first I've seen so I don't know if the idea's widespread, but it could be a good gap-bridger for our Tony.
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But Tony, we have the finest curries in Europe.
Once he makes his way to Saffron he won't remember what tapas looks like.
serve him half a dozen tiny portions of curry, one after the other, and make him eat it with his fingers.
Up in Edinburgh there's a restaurant styling themselves as 'Indian Tapas'. It's the first I've seen so I don't know if the idea's widespread, but it could be a good gap-bridger for our Tony.
Sounds like a thali to me.
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But Tony, we have the finest curries in Europe.
Once he makes his way to Saffron he won't remember what tapas looks like.
serve him half a dozen tiny portions of curry, one after the other, and make him eat it with his fingers.
Up in Edinburgh there's a restaurant styling themselves as 'Indian Tapas'. It's the first I've seen so I don't know if the idea's widespread, but it could be a good gap-bridger for our Tony.
Sounds like a thali to me.
It is a bit. Bloody nice as well.
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I bet he was gutted when he realised that the Bullring is a shopping centre.
haha brilliant!
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antonio who ?? thats what i said when we signed a left winger from burnley someone called morley and a centre back called evans from some scottish club dennis mortimer whats he gonna do i said and a journeyman centre forward called withe. we may as well go the whole hog and give those kids a chance called shaw and cowans. then we only went and took some raw kid from trinidad called yorke. the list is endless, villa till i die
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
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Apparently, Tony, Tony Moon (the Salifou song) has been aired tonight.
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I like Lamb_Stockmix's man-on-man action one better.
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I like Lamb_Stockmix's man-on-man action one better.
It's got to be.
You heard it hear first 8)
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Sounds like we've gone for the simpler "Tony, Tony Moon'
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Sounds like we've gone for the simpler "Tony, Tony Moon'
Eh? Simpler? Eh?
This is the birth of a BETTER chant.
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Sounds like we've gone for the simpler "Tony, Tony Moon'
Eh? Simpler? Eh?
This is the birth of a BETTER chant.
Ha-ha cant disagree with that.
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Sounds like we've gone for the simpler "Tony, Tony Moon'
Eh? Simpler? Eh?
This is the birth of a BETTER chant.
Ha-ha cant disagree with that.
Plus if he shaved his head......
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One Tony Moon....
Coat fetched
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Tony Moon, my Lord, Tony Moon.
Don't get any fucking ideas, this is tongue in cheek.
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what is his name and number on his shirt. Just asking.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
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Have you been at the crack pipe again?
Anyhow, perhaps we should do him a song based on the theme tune to Button Moon.
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I think all the Villa kicks were to his head.
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As Alan Partridge would say....."erm, that was misjudged"
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
Love this one
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
Love this one
I want..... nay..... DEMAND that we sing this.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
This is up there with One Man, One Jam Jar for the strangest things I have seen on the interweb.
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This is up there with One Man, One Jam Jar for the strangest things I have seen on the interweb.
Thanks for dredging that memory up!
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
This is up there with One Man, One Jam Jar for the strangest things I have seen on the interweb.
"Jarsquatter" we knew it as.
Don't be googling it, anyone, honestly, you really don't want to be seeing it. It is also the most NSFW thing I've ever witnessed.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
Just read that. My nose just started to bleed unexpectedly. Is that normal?
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
This is up there with One Man, One Jam Jar for the strangest things I have seen on the interweb.
"Jarsquatter" we knew it as.
Don't be googling it, anyone, honestly, you really don't want to be seeing it. It is also the most NSFW thing I've ever witnessed.
Two Girls, One Cup is pretty poor. And apparently there is a One Man, One Screwdriver, which I really dont need to see.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
I can't wait to see everyone's arse at Villa Park
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"Shoes off if you love Villa."
"Pants down if you love Luna."
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
Love this one
I want..... nay..... DEMAND that we sing this.
agreed.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
You may not agree with all VK comes up with but for claret&blue sky thinking I don't there are much better
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
My favourite band but that's one of the worst songs ever written.
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
My favourite band but that's one of the worst songs ever written.
It's not though is it? It isn't even the worst song they've written.
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Ok I'm gonna be the first to say this.... This is the chant we should sing for him:
(To the tune of 'Man On The Man' by R.E.M.)
Would you believe his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon......
Would you believe, he plays in claret and blue, claret and blue.....
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My favourite band but that's one of the worst songs ever written.
It's not though is it? It isn't even the worst song they've written.
That would be " What's the frequency Kenneth," surely ?
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This should do it. Happy days.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
Just read that. My nose just started to bleed unexpectedly. Is that normal?
You mean Villa Kicks is Hilary Briss? I thought that was Alec McLeish.
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when he does a m o m performance its moonshine
when he celebrates or shuffles around its moon jig . com
when villla have injury time and not long to go and he has the ball can chant moon min !
when he does a bad foul down back of layer legs he's moon raker
at first and second half can chant tony tony give us the walk
and finally the chant to you are my sun shine
when he scored everyone pulls a Moonie and shout you are my moonshine you are my moonshine
you make me happy with your play I love your beard you make.me weird oh tony you've made my day la la la la ......
Sweet ....
.... mother of Jesus!
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That's what Glenn Peen would write if you take out poo poo and pee pee references.
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Looks good going forward but am a bit worried about his defence. Appears to have been caught out of position a few times letting his winger get in behind him. Will have to see what he is like when we are under the cosh.
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Better than Bennett.
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Better than Bennett.
On the evidence I've seen so far, I agree.
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Was sloppy enough today I thought, and pretty suspect defensively. Obviously not writing him off by any means but will need to see more from him to say he's better than Bennett on that display.
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That's the way fullbacks have gone in the modern game really, long gone are the steady eddies at full back like Winterburn, Dixon, Gary Neville etc.
How many modern day full back can you say are better defensively than going forward.
Man.Unted- Evra and Rafael, nope.
Arsenal- Sagna and Gibbs, nope.
Liverpool- Johnson and Jose Enrique, nope.
Spurs- Kyle Walker and Danny Rose, nope.
I'd only really say Zabaleta at City and Ashley Cole are two of the regular full backs that you can say are really good defenders first and foremost, maybe Baines at Everton aswell although he has sloppy games on occasions.
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I agree full backs are more offensive now. But he did look a bit suspect defensively today I thought. You don't want to be letting Walcott get in behind you too easily as you won't catch him.
Would benefit from more protection from the midfield, with a three in there.
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Hopefully he'll introduce himself to Walcott in the first five minutes so that he doesn't go past anyone all match (winky thing)
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Its something you have to accept with a more modern and attacking formation. Your full backs provide the width but you get left light at the back. That's why you need a midfielder to drop and help out which appears to be Sylla's role.
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If we play with 3 in midfield 1 needs to step forward and press the ball, which gives you 1 to cover centrally and the other to help his full back, none of those should be jobs for X though, it should be that whichever midfielder is best positioned to do the job does it. One of the weaknesses at times last year was the midfielders waiting for others to do the job in front of them. In a side like we're trying to be you ant afford that. I'm convinced that's why Bannan is on his way as that was the things he was most guilty of last year (and something he got very little criticism for, oddly).
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I know he has a beard but I don't get why anyone thinks he is better then Bennett. Very poor whenever he is tested defensively. Not looking forward to seeing him up against Walcott next week.
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Because he looks good going forward, rather than Bennett who is naff offensively and defensively.
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Maybe it is just me but I judge full-backs on whether they can defend first and foremost.
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Thought Luna was awful today, got skinned a couple of times.
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I don't agree he was awful at all.
He does look a little suspect defensively though I agree.
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I don't agree he was awful at all.
He does look a little suspect defensively though I agree.
Thought he was very good v Walsall, maybe it was the pressure of the 22k fans at VP ;D
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He was impressive against Wallsall because he had no defending to do! Against Luton he was awful. Against Crewe he was booked for tugging one of their players back who had left him for dead. Not to mention his defensive contribution at Mallorca where he was poor defensively whenever I saw them. Joe Bennett was much improved towards the end of last season and it's a shame he had to pick up an injury and miss most of preseason.
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Alan Hutton is probably muttering how on earth his team mate from last season is in ahead of him.
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Difficult to judge in pre season though.
Do wish we'd come up with a better song though. "Luuuuuuna Luuuna Luuuna" = zzzzzzz
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Because he looks good going forward, rather than Bennett who is naff offensively and defensively.
This the same Bennett that has probably the best cross at the club when he has some confidence? Offensively he has the potential to be excellent.
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Their number 19 was skinning all our players, so harsh to pick out Luna I reckon. The 19 switched flanks and skinned us both sides. And in MF. At times it seemed he was playing us on his own, and winning.
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Who was he?
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No idea, that's why I have to keep calling him number 19. They didn't have names on the back of their shirts. I was very very impressed with him, MOTM comfortably in my opinion.
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Hes slower than Bennett but stronger, hes ok, but will struggle against Walcott.Bennett played very well against Walcott last season.
Their 2 wide players played well today, thought Luna was better than Lowton tbh.
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It's true when the polish lad swapped sides he skinned lowton twice.
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Another vote for their number 19. He looked very handy.
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Their number 19 was Pawlowski. I agree that he was one of the best players on the pitch.
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So who the fuq was he, then? We should be told. Malaga are the fifth best team in Europe. How did "Rocky" Santa Cruz get on back in Blighty by the way?
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Just looked him up, he's only 20 and on loan at Malaga. Get in there Lambert and sign him up!
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On loan from whom, though?
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Widzew Lodz.
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Thought Luna was awful today, got skinned a couple of times.
You need to take some happy pills!
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Thought Luna was awful today, got skinned a couple of times.
So, Luna got skinned a couple of times and Tonev was "woeful".
Have you been in the 'right to moan' thread yet? - you'll do well on there.
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Thought Tony played okay today. Overall he looks a snip at 3 mill.
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Thought Luna was awful today, got skinned a couple of times.
So, Luna got skinned a couple of times and Tonev was "woeful".
Have you been in the 'right to moan' thread yet? - you'll do well on there.
I wasn't there yesterday but I was in Dublin last week and I thought both Luna and Tonev were poor in the Rovers match and it sounds like they were just as bad yesterday. Nothing wrong with telling it as you see it.
I liked the look of Okore and Helenious though.
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We should let number 19 play for Malaga for a season on loan then sign him up for next season. Just a suggestion.
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Thought Luna was awful today, got skinned a couple of times.
So, Luna got skinned a couple of times and Tonev was "woeful".
Have you been in the 'right to moan' thread yet? - you'll do well on there.
I wasn't there yesterday but I was in Dublin last week and I thought both Luna and Tonev were poor in the Rovers match and it sounds like they were just as bad yesterday. Nothing wrong with telling it as you see it.
I liked the look of Okore and Helenious though.
Thing is when you go to the extreme of deeming a player woeful, unless you have followed that player the entire game, you essentially base that opinion on one or two key incidents that stand out. You ignore all of the good work that player does, and especially against good oposition as yesterday provided. Tonev has played very little in pre-season and Luna might have done better in a couple of instances. But were they really woeful?
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
I'm not saying anything you've put there is wrong, but has anybody stopped to think that if we follow conventional wisdom in how we play, and how we recruit, we'll probably go down.
The reason I'm so optimistic about Lambert's reign is that he doesn't fall into that trap.
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
I'm not saying anything you've put there is wrong, but has anybody stopped to think that if we follow conventional wisdom in how we play, and how we recruit, we'll probably go down.
The reason I'm so optimistic about Lambert's reign is that he doesn't fall into that trap.
eh?What's that go to do with our poor defending?
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
I'm not saying anything you've put there is wrong, but has anybody stopped to think that if we follow conventional wisdom in how we play, and how we recruit, we'll probably go down.
The reason I'm so optimistic about Lambert's reign is that he doesn't fall into that trap.
eh?What's that go to do with our poor defending?
Well I can think of a former manager who would agree that the full backs should concentrate on defending. I think towards the end of the season we saw how Sylla was filling in when attacks broke down and we weren't getting caught out as much.
It doesn't excuse shit mistakes giving goals away. If we fix that we're fine.
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
I'm not saying anything you've put there is wrong, but has anybody stopped to think that if we follow conventional wisdom in how we play, and how we recruit, we'll probably go down.
The reason I'm so optimistic about Lambert's reign is that he doesn't fall into that trap.
Actually I'd say having one of the poorest defences in the league always leaves you vunerable to relegation. Don't understand your point at all.
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I'm also less than impressed by his defending yesterday, the same could also be said of Vlaar and Lowton mind.
I can't believe we've not got this sorted on the training pitch yet. We're going to get another few hammerings i can see it already. It's all very well having full backs that are good going forward, but my priority for any defender is defending!
I don't see any logic in building a side from the front. We've got to get the defensive side of things right or we're going nowhere fast
I'm not saying anything you've put there is wrong, but has anybody stopped to think that if we follow conventional wisdom in how we play, and how we recruit, we'll probably go down.
The reason I'm so optimistic about Lambert's reign is that he doesn't fall into that trap.
Actually I'd say having one of the poorest defences in the league always leaves you vunerable to relegation. Don't understand your point at all.
The shape of the team is a weakness when we're struggling, but it's also the key to our success. We looked far better once we got the midfield three sorted.
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You can go down by conceding too many or not scoring enough - and the latter happens as often as the former. It's an old point, but if you defend brilliantly and draw every game in the league season you'll get 38 points, whereas if you win half and lose half you get 57 points. Building a side from the front is actually the logical option, as you've more to gain than to lose in a 3-points-for-a-win league.
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Is it too much to ask to have a decent defence AND attack? Why does it have to be one or the other. I know we had McLeish but that doesn't mean we should be happy with the complete opposite (i.e. Gung-ho, three sheets to the wind approach).
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Well that's the thing - with limited resources you tend to be one or the other, because every team is balanced one way or the other but the richer clubs can afford individuals to make up the difference at the other end (defensive teams rely on strikers, number 10s etc, whereas attacking teams rely on centre-back pairings and goalkeepers). The only truly balanced approach is the Swansalona possession obsession, which takes years to implement effectively (see Liverpool FC). It's tough, but ultimately winning one then losing one is better than drawing two - so start from the front.
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Well that's the thing - with limited resources you tend to be one or the other, because every team is balanced one way or the other but the richer clubs can afford individuals to make up the difference at the other end (defensive teams rely on strikers, number 10s etc, whereas attacking teams rely on centre-back pairings and goalkeepers). The only truly balanced approach is the Swansalona possession obsession, which takes years to implement effectively (see Liverpool FC). It's tough, but ultimately winning one then losing one is better than drawing two - so start from the front.
Put much better than a man with a wife in labour could.
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No need to bring politics into it.
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The way we play in attack means that our fullbacks are always going to get isolated and/or leave huge gaps behind them. That they're not fantastic defensively will only compound matters. That said I do like Tony. He's no pushover physically and he loves bombing forward. He's impressed me.
Lowton I think will take his game up a level this season. He's fantastic in attack, and getting better defensively. Modern fullbacks aren't going to be rock solid at the back.
Our major problem is still the lack of a strong presence in the middle of our defence. For me, Vlaar is the weak link. Quality center halfs can cover for the defence gaps left by offensive fullbacks. This is why come january I think one of two things will happen.
1- Baker and Okore have become first choice and Baker looks better for having a pacey CB next to him.
2- Lambert goes into the market for another CB.
But as for all the players. Lets wait and see what happens in the season proper, when you can't afford to take your foot off the gas as we did against Malaga. Vlaar seriously has to step up his game though. He looks very ropey, and though you'd fancy him to score 4-5 quality goals over the course of a full season, he's too suspect defensively and worryingly poor in the air. About as poor as I've seen in a while from a CH from one of the better nations.
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Well that's the thing - with limited resources you tend to be one or the other, because every team is balanced one way or the other but the richer clubs can afford individuals to make up the difference at the other end (defensive teams rely on strikers, number 10s etc, whereas attacking teams rely on centre-back pairings and goalkeepers). The only truly balanced approach is the Swansalona possession obsession, which takes years to implement effectively (see Liverpool FC). It's tough, but ultimately winning one then losing one is better than drawing two - so start from the front.
Good point.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
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Well that's the thing - with limited resources you tend to be one or the other, because every team is balanced one way or the other but the richer clubs can afford individuals to make up the difference at the other end (defensive teams rely on strikers, number 10s etc, whereas attacking teams rely on centre-back pairings and goalkeepers). The only truly balanced approach is the Swansalona possession obsession, which takes years to implement effectively (see Liverpool FC). It's tough, but ultimately winning one then losing one is better than drawing two - so start from the front.
Which is why the MF three needs to contain a Delph and a Sylla type of player; they track back and cover their fullbacks really well.
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Swansalona...hawt!
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
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But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
...But...the point is that we play a risky attacking style which is as likely to thrash as to get thrashed. How are you not getting the point?
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But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
...But...the point is that we play a risky attacking style which is as likely to thrash as to get thrashed. How are you not getting the point?
Our defenders make basic mistakes that cost us games. Better defenders might not make those mistakes.
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But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
...But...the point is that we play a risky attacking style which is as likely to thrash as to get thrashed. How are you not getting the point?
Our defenders make basic mistakes that cost us games. Better defenders might not make those mistakes.
Well, that would either cost a lot of money or you have to use the approach we're using, buying players like Okore.
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But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
...But...the point is that we play a risky attacking style which is as likely to thrash as to get thrashed. How are you not getting the point?
Our defenders make basic mistakes that cost us games. Better defenders might not make those mistakes.
Well, that would either cost a lot of money or you have to use the approach we're using, buying players like Okore.
I like the look of Okore, but he's young and bound to make mistakes. Not been impressed with Luna so far, but its early days. Strengthening the defence should have been the number 1 priority this summer but I'm not sure if we've done enough, yet.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
We conceded 4 or more the same number of times last season as we did in 07/08 when we scored 71 and conceded 51. Wasn't 07/08 season entertaining?
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Our defenders make basic mistakes that cost us games. Better defenders might not make those mistakes.
I do agree with this; and the Sunday Times had their pre-season 'homage to the Sky Four' today in the form of their predictions: they had us 15th (behind the mighty Fulham, and others). The reason? - in their words "defence, defence, defence."
Unless Vlaar, Lowton, Bennett and Baker have dramatically improved (and I haven't seen massive evidence of that yet), we will rely on the MF three to work incredibly hard covering our defensive frailties.
I am really looking forward to the season - I think we'll play some great football - but I do not see evidence of having dealt with the defensive issues of the last three previous seasons.
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Stoke conceded only 2 more goals than Champions Manure last season. Most people would prefer to gouge their eyes out than watch Stoke last season. Having a good defence isn't the be all.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
Just an opinion based on what I saw last season, Dave. Nothing more than that.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
We conceded 4 or more the same number of times last season as we did in 07/08 when we scored 71 and conceded 51. Wasn't 07/08 season entertaining?
Yeah and let in 69 league goals. I don't see what's so entertaining about being cannon fodder for the opposition.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
Just an opinion based on what I saw last season, Dave. Nothing more than that.
It was certainly not based on young players gaining an extra season's experience, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
It was, but so was last season from February. We can only get better.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
So we're agreed then that a good defence isn't a necessity for an enjoyable and/or entertaining season. Which was my original point.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
Just an opinion based on what I saw last season, Dave. Nothing more than that.
It was certainly not based on young players gaining an extra season's experiene, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
All well and good, but I still don't think the defence is strong enough.
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
Just an opinion based on what I saw last season, Dave. Nothing more than that.
It was certainly not based on young players gaining an extra season's experiene, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
All well and good, but I still don't think the defence is strong enough.
And I think it's improved, with evidence to back up my claim. We shall see.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
So we're agreed then that a good defence isn't a necessity for an enjoyable and/or entertaining season. Which was my original point.
You having a laugh? Compared to last season's defence the 07/08 back line would be the football equivalent of the Great Wall of China in defence.
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Strong enough for what though s_h? Albion finished 8th while conceding 57. I can see us conceding less than that next season, wouldn't 8th be a decent season?
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
So we're agreed then that a good defence isn't a necessity for an enjoyable and/or entertaining season. Which was my original point.
You having a laugh? Compared to last season's defence the 07/08 back line would be the football equivalent of the Great Wall of China in defence.
But it wouldn't be a good defence would it conceding 51?
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If we had a good attack and defence we'd be CL contenders. We're not so i'll settle for consecutive scores along the lines of 5-2, 2-2, 1-5, 6-0, 3-3, 0-4 etc rather than a bunch of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 and so on. I'm old and I want to be entertained.
I don't see anything entertaining in getting thrashed every few weeks. It's embarrassing.
How did you miss the bit about winning 5-2 and 6-0 as well?
But in the real world we're more likely to be on the end of a thrashing than the ones dishing them out. Our defence is still a worry.
Why is it more likely?
Just an opinion based on what I saw last season, Dave. Nothing more than that.
It was certainly not based on young players gaining an extra season's experiene, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
All well and good, but I still don't think the defence is strong enough.
And I think it's improved, with evidence to back up my claim. We shall see.
What evidence? We haven't kicked a ball in competitive football yet.
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Strong enough for what though s_h? Albion finished 8th while conceding 57. I can see us conceding less than that next season, wouldn't 8th be a decent season?
8th would be brilliant compared to last season's debacle. Concede another 69 goals and it'll be another relegation battle though.
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What evidence? We haven't kicked a ball in competitive football yet.
I repeat. Young players gaining an extra season's experience, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
So we're agreed then that a good defence isn't a necessity for an enjoyable and/or entertaining season. Which was my original point.
You having a laugh? Compared to last season's defence the 07/08 back line would be the football equivalent of the Great Wall of China in defence.
But it wouldn't be a good defence would it conceding 51?
Nor would it be a diabolical defence like last season's.
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That's the thing s_h, some of don't think we'll concede 69, it will be probably be 50+, but I fancy us to score even more. Which is why, for me at least, it will be entertaining.
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Was 07/08 entertaining?
Yes. We scored 71 league goals and conceded just 51 and finished 6th. Not bad. Much better than last season's humiliations.
So we're agreed then that a good defence isn't a necessity for an enjoyable and/or entertaining season. Which was my original point.
You having a laugh? Compared to last season's defence the 07/08 back line would be the football equivalent of the Great Wall of China in defence.
But it wouldn't be a good defence would it conceding 51?
Nor would it be a diabolical defence like last season's.
And again, that was my point, it doesn't have to be a good defence for it to be an entertaining season.
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What evidence? We haven't kicked a ball in competitive football yet.
I repeat. Young players gaining an extra season's experience, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
You can repeat it as much as you like but that defence still looks to me like it's gonna concede lots of goals.
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What evidence? We haven't kicked a ball in competitive football yet.
I repeat. Young players gaining an extra season's experience, a full pre-season working with the manager, a more solid midfield and two new defenders.
You can repeat it as much as you like but that defence still looks to me like it's gonna concede lots of goals.
And as I also said, time will tell.
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That's the thing s_h, some of don't think we'll concede 69, it will be probably be 50+, but I fancy us to score even more. Which is why, for me at least, it will be entertaining.
If we concede 10 - 15 fewer goals than last season we'll finish much higher than we did last season. So I agree with you there, but the defence still worries me. Can't see why that's so controversial.
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That's the thing s_h, some of don't think we'll concede 69, it will be probably be 50+, but I fancy us to score even more. Which is why, for me at least, it will be entertaining.
If we concede 10 - 15 fewer goals than last season we'll finish much higher than we did last season. So I agree with you there, but the defence still worries me. Can't see why that's so controversial.
It isn't controversial, it was you that disagreed with my opinion that scoring a lot while not exactly being tight at the back would be entertaining for me.
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That's the thing s_h, some of don't think we'll concede 69, it will be probably be 50+, but I fancy us to score even more. Which is why, for me at least, it will be entertaining.
If we concede 10 - 15 fewer goals than last season we'll finish much higher than we did last season. So I agree with you there, but the defence still worries me. Can't see why that's so controversial.
It isn't controversial, it was you that disagreed with my opinion that scoring a lot while not exactly being tight at the back would be entertaining for me.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree then because I don't find a Villa defence that concedes as many goals as we did last season entertaining.
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Again as you seem to be missing the point, I don't think we'll concede as many as last season, but as i've said I think we will concede 50+ then that also doesn't qualify as having a good defence. I also think we'll score at least 55. So, for example, scoring 55 and conceding 54 makes for an entertaining season don't you think?
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Again as you seem to be missing the point, I don't think we'll concede as many as last season, but as i've said I think we will concede 50+ then that also doesn't qualify as having a good defence. I also think we'll score at least 55. So, for example, scoring 55 and conceding 54 makes for an entertaining season don't you think?
Conceding 55 goals might not be a good defence in the grand scheme of things but compared to last season's defence it's f#ckin brilliant.
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I don't think I'd find the slightest bit of entertainment in watching us defend like we did last year.
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The point is this:
Teams other than the possession-hoggers focus on either attack or defence as their calculated imbalance. They do this mostly with positioning and choice of midfielders and full-backs (as well as formation, though pretty much everyone plays 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 now). For ourselves, we don't have the best defenders but we do have some very good attackers, so we go pretty much all out trying to play to our strengths. The midfield three does tend to play fairly deep as cover, but with considerable license to get forward.
If we had the kind of defenders who could concede 40-odd goals in the season just by their sheer quality (as, for example, Man Utd have done when Ferdinand and Vidic were at their peak) then we'd have paid Monaco money for them. The same applies if we were positionally very defensive but had a few attacking players who could break down defenders by their sheer quality (more Man City's approach). When defenders are left more exposed because of attacking systems they are always going to make more mistakes individually - look at Barca! - in the same way that defensive teams can look short when they go forward, like we did in that annus horribilis 2011-12. Our lack of attacking threat was a right pain in the annus all year.
At our end of the market don't have the options that the mega-clubs do, so we buy as well as we can and set up the system to play to our strengths. And while that's risky, going for the wins is clearly the best thing to do in a three-points-for-a-win system, because it's better to lose one then win one than to draw two.
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I think we're over-complicating the point. I don't think it's ever a manager's chosen tactic to 'not defend very well, because we've got attackers.'
No-one's expecting our back 4 to suddenly become Top 4 standard, but they were an absolute shambles at times last year. Vlaar was supposed to be an upgrade on James Collins and, as yet, he hasn't been anywhere near as good as him.
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No-one's expecting our back 4 to suddenly become Top 4 standard, but they were an absolute shambles at times last year. Vlaar was supposed to be an upgrade on James Collins and, as yet, he hasn't been anywhere near as good as him.
I suppose we'd hope that would be the case. But I'd bet vlaar is earning less than Collins and only cost Ł3m from memory which is similar to what we paid to buy Collins x years ago. Based on that I'd say its hard and unfair to describe him as an upgrade. I think Lambert wanted a better personality around the place (compared to Collins). If he was a better player he'd be costing a lot more than what we paid.
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I think we're over-complicating the point. I don't think it's ever a manager's chosen tactic to 'not defend very well, because we've got attackers.'
No-one's expecting our back 4 to suddenly become Top 4 standard, but they were an absolute shambles at times last year. Vlaar was supposed to be an upgrade on James Collins and, as yet, he hasn't been anywhere near as good as him.
No, that's not it. It's accepting that we might concede more if we try and score more.
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I think we're over-complicating the point. I don't think it's ever a manager's chosen tactic to 'not defend very well, because we've got attackers.'
No, but it is a manager's chosen tactic to put two strikers on the wing (Gabby and Weimann) and then encourage the full backs to support them in attack in an attempt to score more goals.
We've recently had a manager who chose to put Hutton and Heskey on the wings and told them to support the full back in defence rather than encouraging the unit to attack.
The latter choice is likely to be more solid defensively, but you're quite obviously going to sacrifice a bit of attacking flair.
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I'm not disputing the
I think we're over-complicating the point. I don't think it's ever a manager's chosen tactic to 'not defend very well, because we've got attackers.'
No, but it is a manager's chosen tactic to put two strikers on the wing (Gabby and Weimann) and then encourage the full backs to support them in attack in an attempt to score more goals.
We've recently had a manager who chose to put Hutton and Heskey on the wings and told them to support the full back in defence rather than encouraging the unit to attack.
The latter choice is likely to be more solid defensively, but you're quite obviously going to sacrifice a bit of attacking flair.
In theory I agree with what you're saying. However, I don't think our tactics were as responsible for most of the defensive horror-shows of last season as individual defensive errors were.
For example, we conceded a shit-load of goals from set-pieces. This has no correlation to playing 2 wingers and 2 attacking full-backs.
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I agree with you there Russell. Some of the individual errors last season were quite unbelievable. However, once again that comes from prioritising attacking over defending, this time in the transfer market. We can only afford to do one really really well - if we could do both we'd be in the CL. They're just going to have to work hard in training and hope that Okore turns out to be brilliant. He's certainly quick enough to make up for a few individual errors.
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I think we're going to need Okore to hit the ground running. All 3 of our CBs spent time in the treatment room last season which meant both Herd and Lowton playing there at various times. We can't afford to do that again this season if we've any hope of climbing the table.
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Hopefully a years experience, plus some confidence, will help rid a number of the individual errors. I reckon the experience of last season, plus the confidence of coming through it okay in the end will have improved the youngsters both mentally and ability wise.
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I hope so. When people talk about our tactics meaning that we'll concede a lot of goals, it's worth noting that Swansea play a very similar system (with a side put together on a similar budget) and conceded 18 less goals than us in the league last year.
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I hope so. When people talk about our tactics meaning that we'll concede a lot of goals, it's worth noting that Swansea play a very similar system (with a side put together on a similar budget) and conceded 18 less goals than us in the league last year.
They don't though. They're much more cautious in possession and use ball-rotation as a form of defence. Besides, they've been doing that consistently, manager-after-manager, for as many years as we've gone from MON to GH to Eck to Lambert. that sort of system takes time to implement - and we're not really implementing that system anyway.
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I hope so. When people talk about our tactics meaning that we'll concede a lot of goals, it's worth noting that Swansea play a very similar system (with a side put together on a similar budget) and conceded 18 less goals than us in the league last year.
They also only finished 5 points ahead of us. Which considering how many folks spent months saying how poor we were and that we were going to finish bottom means that either a) they aren't actually that good or b) we aren't that bad. Is how I see it anyway.
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We were also about 30 seconds away from doing the double over them. I think they're a great side to watch in fairness though.
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We were also about 30 seconds away from doing the double over them. I think they're a great side to watch in fairness though.
Me too, I really like their success. All done in the right way. I think we're a great side to watch when we're in our stride as well, though.
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Hopefully we can eradicate some if not all, the individual errors we made last season. However, work on the training ground on defending corners, free kicks etc should also, hopefully, achieve some results. Plus we do have four centre backs this season which means that anyone carrying a knock can be rested.
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Back to Tony Moon - 1st time i have seen him this season and was not overly impressed.
Especially when he was fouled, went down like he had broken his leg, got the player booked then got up and sprinted the length of the pitch
Somethink that i hated players like Trevor Francis for doing all my life - hope that is knocked out of him soon
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Back to Tony Moon - 1st time i have seen him this season and was not overly impressed.
Especially when he was fouled, went down like he had broken his leg, got the player booked then got up and sprinted the length of the pitch
Somethink that i hated players like Trevor Francis for doing all my life - hope that is knocked out of him soon
He inevitably has strengths and weaknesses. He's come from the Spanish league where the acting thing is probably more practised/accepted. He's a fighter and loves to win his tackles, but i think he is a bit prone to struggling when the winger attacks him head on/cuts inside. It should be interesting to see him against Walcott! Delph/Sylla cutting out the supply will be needed or I can see Walcott taking him to the cleaners.
He also seems to have bought into the team big-time. Watch him when we score - he loves it! The support for him in the friendlies has been mentioned several times and he loves the Tony Moon thing. I hope he can work on and improve his defensive nous as I think he could be great for us long term.
Also: excellent beard! ;-)
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I agree with you there Russell. Some of the individual errors last season were quite unbelievable. However, once again that comes from prioritising attacking over defending, this time in the transfer market. .
Not really too sure about that.
We look a soft touch at corners - the kind of errors we see in situations like that are usually individual errors of a level you wouldn't expect to see from players like those.
Vlaar, for example, is not an expensive, top defender, but he makes errors and shows weaknesses of a type you wouldn't expect to see from a Dutch international.
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Shine on shine on Tony Moon#!
Great debut game. Thought he was all round excellent today. Not the easiest of debut against quality opposition.
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Shine on shine on Tony Moon#!
Great debut game. Thought he was all round excellent today. Not the easiest of debut against quality opposition.
Sometimes a player needs a break, a bit of luck to kickstart their career. Strangely his bit of luck might be his nick-name.
That instantly got him cult status > which meant the fans sang his name > which gave him confidence play without fear > cement his place in the 1st team > scores on league debut > more confidence.
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Like we give a shit but.....
David Cameron @David_Cameron 16m
Only the first day, I know - but it's great to see Aston Villa at the top of the premier league.
https://twitter.com/David_Cameron
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Luna means moon in Spanish and Italian, so we can say that we are over the moon today
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I don't care about the man's politics but he was claiming Villa fan status before today. So like everyone else let Cameron enjoy himself. In fact I hope Risso and Nash are enjoying today and hopefully how we are evolving too.
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Very impressed by him today , handled Walcott pretty well and showed a coolness to put away the third goal when many defenders in similar situation may have panicked and missed.
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Oops. Posted in the wrong thread, here. Deleted.
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Wasn't Sir William Dugdale Cameron's uncle? The guy's got every right to claim genuine Villa fandom. Much as he is a political bastard.
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He looks very, very dangerous going forwards.
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I don't care about the man's politics but he was claiming Villa fan status before today. So like everyone else let Cameron enjoy himself. In fact I hope Risso and Nash are enjoying today and hopefully how we are evolving too.
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
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There was a very subtle but clever pass made by Luna near the end. We were under pressure at 2-1 and rather than boot it, he looked up and played a cunning pass between three players.
long may his confidence continue.
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The guy seems full of personality and a potential Villa legend but being completely honest I saw worrying defensive frailties. In an attacking team like ours we need a back four who can principally defend. Nothing will ruin this day for me but let's be pragmatic here a bit. Well at least tomorrow anyway. Gunners 1 - Villa 3 !!!!!
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
Me too. Brilliant stuff.
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If you watch the replay, I think he was the only one with any legs left.....the rest of the team were walking and could barely get out of the box!
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He's the budget Jordi Alba. It's amazing how many times Alba is through on goal for Barca and Spain, and Luna, who was signed to get forward more and give us more options from left back, did the same today.
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Legend already!
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Legend already!
Certainly has made the sort of start most can only dream of - and he looked comfortable against Walcott for a lot of the game - delighted with him.
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
Me too. Brilliant stuff.
Indeed.
Marvellously put by PWS.
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
Excellent.
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He looks very, very dangerous going forwards.
Cameron?
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Can I have an update?
1. what's the best Tony Moon song?
2. (and probably) which is the one the crowd have adopted?
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
Fucking, a
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Can I have an update?
1. what's the best Tony Moon song?
2. (and probably) which is the one the crowd have adopted?
Now Tony can you tell us 'bout this one
That time when you were through one on one
Now Tony when you scored at the Arsenal, baby
We had so much fun
Would you believe, his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon
Would you believe, he plays in Claret and Blue, Claret and Blue
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Legend already!
Certainly has made the sort of start most can only dream of - and he looked comfortable against Walcott for a lot of the game - delighted with him.
Welcome back, Mark.
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I'm pleased with him good start to his Villa career.
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Opening day of the season, away at the Emirates. You are a defender and your team are leading 2-1 with 5 minutes to go.
Do you
A) Hold a strict defensive line to protect what you have?
B) Play for Aston Villa so you find yourself 1 on 1 with their keeper?
I love this Villa side.
Fucking, a
I've just come off the phone from our kid, who's on holiday up in Northumberland, and I was explaining to him how my feed suddenly came back on when, with us 2-1 and supposedly hanging on for a famous win, our left back got played clean through in the inside right position, gave the keeper the eyes and finished like he was Messi or Iniesta.
Followed by me saying "I fucking love this team!"
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Our most intriguing left full back since his forefather Tony Dorigo.
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Collymore tweeted:La Luna,oooohhh,La Luna oohhhhh,he came from Se-Villla-A to play for the Villa..
Not bad
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Tony Moon is already a Villa legend. How cool was that finish ? Cool as fuck. Lanza Lions on the Piss, 7 of us. Oh yeah.
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Will NEVER use Moon. Love the name Luna - cue - my dog's name is Luna :) That is why i bought a no.14 with Luna on (not A.Luna as the club wants to sell 2 more characters)
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Tony Moon is already a Villa legend. How cool was that finish ? Cool as fuck. Lanza Lions on the Piss, 7 of us. Oh yeah.
Is that the PDC magnificent 7 ?
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Luna's goal reminded me of Chrissy Price's goal at Highbury many moons ago.
I don't envy Joe Bennetts task of trying to dislodge this guy at left back but its a good thing, competition for places is what we have been lacking for a while.
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Joe Bennett probably thinking, what did he do to get loved by so many Villa fan :)
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Joe Bennett probably thinking, what did he do to get loved by so many Villa fan :)
Cool nickname + beard = winner.
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A big improvement on Bennet.
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A big improvement on Bennet.
I like Bennett and think he improved a lot as the season went on but it will difficult to get a place in the team for him given the start luna has made , the competition for places now though is healthy and keeps players on their toes - the bench is looking far stronger than last season.
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A big improvement on Bennet.
I like Bennett and think he improved a lot as the season went on but it will difficult to get a place in the team for him given the start luna has made , the competition for places now though is healthy and keeps players on their toes - the bench is looking far stronger than last season.
Agreed. Bennett will get his shot again. I like two hungry LB's competing.
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Luna's goal reminded me of Chrissy Price's goal at Highbury many moons ago.
I don't envy Joe Bennetts task of trying to dislodge this guy at left back but its a good thing, competition for places is what we have been lacking for a while.
Reminded me of Staunton at Hillsborough. That same "what the fuck's our left back doing there" feeling, just before he buried it.
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Walcott was the one we all feared before the game but like someone else said, he didn't really have an effect on the game. Lovely finish from Mr Moon as well.
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I think we have three 'if fit play' players who are 100% first pick for the team, Guzan, Benteke and Delph,
I am hoping Luna will become the next
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I think we have three 'if fit play' players who are 100% first pick for the team, Guzan, Benteke and Delph,
I am hoping Luna will become the next
I would add Lowton and Westwood to those.
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And Gab.
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I've probably watched the goal about 20 times this morning, quite amazing, having charged down the shot, as soon as Andi gets the ball he's away only one thought in his mind. Cult status after one game, not bad for a day's work, that'll live long in our memories.
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"Shine on, shine on Tony Moon!"
(If you're not old enough to know the tune, the original was Harvey Moon!)
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I've probably watched the goal about 20 times this morning
Yes, I watched it a few times as well. Lovely finish for a full back.
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Really looking Forward to motd2 tonight so I can watch the goals again. My Mrs is starting to give me funny looks though now.
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I've probably watched the goal about 20 times this morning
Yes, I watched it a few times as well. Lovely finish for a full back.
Indeed - I really couldn't imagine Joe Bennett showing that level of composure.
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I've probably watched the goal about 20 times this morning
Yes, I watched it a few times as well. Lovely finish for a full back.
I watched it god knows how many times last night.
Watch the way he spots the run is on, and starts pretty much from the edge of our box.
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Luna's goal reminded me of Chrissy Price's goal at Highbury many moons ago.
I don't envy Joe Bennetts task of trying to dislodge this guy at left back but its a good thing, competition for places is what we have been lacking for a while.
Reminded me of Staunton at Hillsborough. That same "what the fuck's our left back doing there" feeling, just before he buried it.
Exactly. To win a game that we had been losing. Except this time, the fella who put him through didn't injure himself doing it...
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Luna's goal reminded me of Chrissy Price's goal at Highbury many moons ago.
I don't envy Joe Bennetts task of trying to dislodge this guy at left back but its a good thing, competition for places is what we have been lacking for a while.
Reminded me of Staunton at Hillsborough. That same "what the fuck's our left back doing there" feeling, just before he buried it.
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw it the first time, just like Staunton that time.
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I think we have three 'if fit play' players who are 100% first pick for the team, Guzan, Benteke and Delph,
One of the things that has pleased me most in the one game of this season and the last portion of last season is the way Delph has been playing.
He's been excellent for us, really good, and I agree, he's rapidly making himself one of those names who go on to the team sheet straight away. Good work, Fabian.
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I've probably watched the goal about 20 times this morning, quite amazing, having charged down the shot, as soon as Andi gets the ball he's away only one thought in his mind. Cult status after one game, not bad for a day's work, that'll live long in our memories.
He achieved a bit of cult status in the pre-season matches - remember he had a goal disallowed at Crewe!
And I thought then: "What the f**k's he doing there?".
Galloping towards me yesterday I couldn't help but think the same, then: "He's gonna f**k this up!".
And he didn't.
I love Luna!
Not in a sort of, like, ladycuddlygirlykissystroky kinda way, just as a real character who plays for the best football club in the World!
He seems to have got into the Villa ethos 100% and quickly.
He loves playing, is a great athlete and will drop a bollock now and again because of the way he plays - all or nothing - but I'd like to think he's going to be a good 'un!
Tony, Tony Mooooon, Tony Tony Moon!
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Can I have an update?
1. what's the best Tony Moon song?
2. (and probably) which is the one the crowd have adopted?
Now Tony can you tell us 'bout this one
That time when you were through one on one
Now Tony when you scored at the Arsenal, baby
We had so much fun
Would you believe, his name is Tony Moon, Tony Moon
Would you believe, he plays in Claret and Blue, Claret and Blue
2.
Well from where i was sat yesterday, seemed we started mostly with
(a la Salifou/Daddy Kool)
Tony, Tony Moon
Tony, Tony Moon
Tony, Tony Moon
Tony, Tony Moon
but then it seemed to go more to
(KC & Sunshine Band 'Baby Give it up')
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
Tony, Tony Moon
Tony Moon
Tony Tony Moon
as to question
1.
I think both of these are contenders because of simplicity
(and the parallel cult without doing anything status of Salifou it's nice to re-cycle that)
and the second one is just fun.
the more complex the song we know the less likely it is to catch, but i think Bri's REM one above is up there, it was such a memorable debut with nosebleed territory one on one...
I don't think the Shine on Tony Moon stuff will stick, but there is the Fly me to the Moon option as well:
Buy me Tony Moon
Let him be a Villa star
Let me see what class is like
One-on-one, against the Arse
Thoughts?
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I liked the way he cut back inside a little to open up that side of the goal before slotting it home. By doing so, he could have put it either side of the 'keeper. A well taken goal for any player but for a defender, it was excellent.
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They're all truly fab!
Can we sing all of them, in strict rotation, led by Choirmaster Woodhall, wearing one of those posh dinner suit things, waving his stick about standing atop the cross bar at the Holte End?
Just a thought.
;-)
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I think we have three 'if fit play' players who are 100% first pick for the team, Guzan, Benteke and Delph,
I am hoping Luna will become the next
I would add Lowton and Westwood to those.
Totally agree, you have to put Lowton and Westwood in the mix, looking good for Tony Moon, I just want Okore to make CB his own and tighten up our defence.
Very exciting times, love to see what Tonev can Helenius can do in the prem.
Villa till I die
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Seeing Tony Moon in that position was like seeing a dolphin in the desert. He had no right to be there, but he spotted the opportunity and went for it hell for leather. It was beautifully taken, as was Weimann's pass, which totally flummoxed Arsenal's defence, and it came at a time that made every Villan breathe a sigh of relief that would put out a forest fire. It's already one of my all-time favourite Villa goals.
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Seeing Tony Moon in that position was like seeing a dolphin in the desert. He had no right to be there, but he spotted the opportunity and went for it hell for leather. It was beautifully taken, as was Weimann's pass, which totally flummoxed Arsenal's defence, and it came at a time that made every Villan breathe a sigh of relief that would put out a forest fire. It's already one of my all-time favourite Villa goals.
This.
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I've said a few times to people at work I firmly believe Luna will be a cult hero at Villa within a few months, he's done everything perfectly for a new guy coming to the club, he's engaged with the fans and got into the Tony Moon thing, every interview (like all the new guys) is really positive, he's got a great work rate, he scored on his debut and he even has a beard!
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...and he even has a beard!
Nope, he's shaved it off.
Unless it's grown back since yesterday.
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He's got stubble.
I'm on holiday - not shaved for 5 days.
Rumour is he's he's basing his image on a cool, 59 year old dude from Aston.
I think he's on to a winner!
;-)
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...and he even has a beard!
Nope, he's shaved it off.
Unless it's grown back since yesterday.
Ok, he even has pictures of himself in a villa kit sporting a beard, better? :D
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I played left back for Adridge and Brownhills in 1970.
Right back was a guy called John Barton - played for Everton and England U23s.
I played for Moor Utd in the Sutton Sunday League.
I'm telling you Tony Moon is using me as a model pro.
And I could drink Barton under the table any day!
Luna - legend in the making - sporting stubble at the Emirates and scoring a peach of a clincher!
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Buy me Tony Moon
Let him be a Villa star
Let me see what class is like
One-on-one, against the Arse
Thoughts?
I like the thought of thousands of macho Holte-Enders singing something with the line "One on one, against the arse"
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Just said to a mate - when he came galloping towards us on Saturday is one of my favourite villa moments from the last 10 years or so.
My 10 year old lad was stood on his seat , grabbing my shoulders , shouting in my ear - doing a one man monologue which went something like - ''who's that !?'' , ''It's Luna!!'' , ''It's Tony Moon!!!'' , ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '' - '' YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
Pure, unbridled pleasure - just magic !!
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Just said to a mate - when he came galloping towards us on Saturday is one of my favourite villa moments from the last 10 years or so.
My 10 year old lad was stood on his seat , grabbing my shoulders , shouting in my ear - doing a one man monologue which went something like - ''who's that !?'' , ''It's Luna!!'' , ''It's Tony Moon!!!'' , ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '' - '' YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
Pure, unbridled pleasure - just magic !!
brilliant is that
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Seeing Tony Moon in that position was like seeing a dolphin in the desert. He had no right to be there, but he spotted the opportunity and went for it hell for leather. It was beautifully taken, as was Weimann's pass, which totally flummoxed Arsenal's defence, and it came at a time that made every Villan breathe a sigh of relief that would put out a forest fire. It's already one of my all-time favourite Villa goals.
This.
Beautifully put!
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Just said to a mate - when he came galloping towards us on Saturday is one of my favourite villa moments from the last 10 years or so.
My 10 year old lad was stood on his seat , grabbing my shoulders , shouting in my ear - doing a one man monologue which went something like - ''who's that !?'' , ''It's Luna!!'' , ''It's Tony Moon!!!'' , ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '', ''Go on Tony '' - '' YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
Pure, unbridled pleasure - just magic !!
Reading things like that genuinely makes a Monday morning seem like a Friday afternoon!!
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As an oldtimer makes me feel glad that the future looks brighter and its in good hands.
Just make sure he brings his children up as Villa fans!
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Supertommyknibba (Dcf and my son) of this parish has just been on BBC midlands news printing Tony Moon on the back of the away shirt. Fame at last.
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I like Lamberts attitude; if in doubt attack. If that doesn't work, attack. If everything else has failed, then attack!
It made me chuckle watching the goal back, with Luna sprinting hell for leather to break clear. What was a left back doing there? It didn't make any sense. A quality finish too.
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It made me chuckle watching the goal back, with Luna sprinting hell for leather to break clear. What was a left back doing there? It didn't make any sense. A quality finish too.
I watched it several times yesterday and several more times today, and it's brilliantly compulsive viewing.
I love the fact it's actually him who charges the ball down on the edge of our area to start the move going. It's hypnotic watching him them realise there's a gigantic gap he can run into and start to belt into it.
And such a cool finish at the end of it, too. Brilliant stuff, and as someone said yesterday, similar to that Staunton goal at Wednesday in Big Ron's first game - another first match of the season.
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he clearly shows the keeper the eyes and belts into his near corner. You need skill and serious balls to do that. If you watch Lambert he's almost as stunned as everyone else when he realises his LB has gone through. Superb finish. Moon is quickly developing a cult following and it's very obvious in every action and statement how much he loves being at the club and being given the opportunity to play in the PL.
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He really did have a great game.
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He really did have a great game.
See, I don't actually think he had a great game. I just think he really came into it as the game went on and like all of our players they appear very fit and determined. As Arsenal tired we got better and Luna with his energy and desire took advantage. Playing a quick player like Walcott caused him problems but he dealt with them decently in the end. He'll need to work on his communication with Brad because we got away with one in the first half.
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He really did have a great game.
See, I don't actually think he had a great game. I just think he really came into it as the game went on and like all of our players they appear very fit and determined. As Arsenal tired we got better and Luna with his energy and desire took advantage. Playing a quick player like Walcott caused him problems but he dealt with them decently in the end. He'll need to work on his communication with Brad because we got away with one in the first half.
I thought he did very well against their most threatening player, Walcott was anonymous after the first 20.
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He really did have a great game.
See, I don't actually think he had a great game. I just think he really came into it as the game went on and like all of our players they appear very fit and determined. As Arsenal tired we got better and Luna with his energy and desire took advantage. Playing a quick player like Walcott caused him problems but he dealt with them decently in the end. He'll need to work on his communication with Brad because we got away with one in the first half.
I thought he played very well throughout. When you consider it was his first game in English football I think it's fair to describe it as a 'great game'. The incident you mention in the first half was down to Guzan's hesitancy IMO.
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Yeah, I thought he was excellent too. The only worry I have with him is his positioning. I've always said that I thought Joe Bennett will come good, I still think that, but he's going to have a huge battle on his hands.
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
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I think a break from his own box, running the length of the pitch and finishing like Messi, would turn a good game into a great game for anyone. Certainly room for improvement though.
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
Great post.
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
Great post.
See, I don't actually think it was that great.
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First half we was a bit sloppy, just before half time he just passed the ball straight to Walcott for some reason and there was that scramble with Guzan. 2nd half excellent though.
There's an air of confidence with him at LB I feel while for all Bennett's improvement towards the end of last season, I still detect an air of panic from the Holte end whenever there's an attack down that side.
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When Arse score he's the only defender anywhere close to doing something and he is looking behind him as Giroud touches the ball into the net. He is caught between Giroud and whoever the Arse player is behind him.
Not a criticism, just observation, even a bit of praise. ie: he was only one quick enough to get back; where was every other defender?
But f**k it. We won and Mr Moon scored a tonker!
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i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
Great post.
Come on it didn't start that well but got better and then a great finish, yes a great post.
See, I don't actually think it was that great.
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
Great post.
See, I don't actually think it was that great.
I think the word great gets thrown about too much around this place.
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i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
Brilliant coverage of the Villa Fans singing - I'm just below the Arse fans in the clip - lovely to see them looking so pissed off while the Villa victory songs resound around the stadium as Aston Villa secure a well-deserved victory at The Emirates (always sounds like a bit of a nasty infection to me - "ooh, I've got the emirates again" - scratch, scratch, flibble - rub on random unction).
I am so proud of our (fans') turnout and conduct on the day and so proud to be part of the Villa support at all games, especially away. We are one of the best groups of fans in the country and it's great to see that PL and the players acknowledge that.
UTV!
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And Tony Moon loves us as much as we love him!
UTV!
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I think the word great gets thrown about too easily. I was happy with his display and yes he played well to disrupt Walcott. I wonder if people would have the same opinion without the goal? Don't want to dismiss his performance because it was against Arsenal and his first game in English football. Off course, it's entirely possible I'm being a little harsh too.
Great post.
See, I don't actually think it was that great.
I think the word great gets thrown about too much around this place.
Has it started to great.....
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All the love is good thing as we don't want to boo or whipping boys,
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i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
Brilliant coverage of the Villa Fans singing
Agreed, but with the exception of that cringeworthy "I don't care about Arsenal, they don't care about me" song. I was hoping it was a one-off at Wigan but looks like it might become a regular. I can't stand it.
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i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
Brilliant coverage of the Villa Fans singing
Agreed, but with the exception of that cringeworthy "I don't care about Arsenal, they don't care about me" song. I was hoping it was a one-off at Wigan but looks like it might become a regular. I can't stand it.
I dont care about Chelsea....
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can't believe i seen people comment that he shouldn't of been that high up for his goal, watch the replay he charged from back post blocked there shot and then when the ball fell to Andi he had the guts to burst forward receive the pass and finish like a forward pro.
was very impressed with his whole contribution on saturday.
UTV
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can't believe i seen people comment that he shouldn't of been that high up for his goal, watch the replay he charged from back post blocked there shot and then when the ball fell to Andi he had the guts to burst forward receive the pass and finish like a forward pro.
was very impressed with his whole contribution on saturday.
I thought the move was sublime.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/9532013618_b47293d34e_o.gif)
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Weimann overhit the pass rather than play it into his path. Can do better.
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Done deliberately. It enabled him to cut inside and use his left foot...
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can't believe i seen people comment that he shouldn't of been that high up for his goal, watch the replay he charged from back post blocked there shot and then when the ball fell to Andi he had the guts to burst forward receive the pass and finish like a forward pro.
was very impressed with his whole contribution on saturday.
I thought the move was sublime.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/9532013618_b47293d34e_o.gif)
i can watch that over and over!
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Done deliberately. It enabled him to cut inside and use his left foot...
i like your thinking ;)
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Is it only me who thinks it looks even cooler because he's left-footed?
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
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can't believe i seen people comment that he shouldn't of been that high up for his goal, watch the replay he charged from back post blocked there shot and then when the ball fell to Andi he had the guts to burst forward receive the pass and finish like a forward pro.
was very impressed with his whole contribution on saturday.
UTV
Yes he did well and you can't fault him in any way but people being surprised to see the left back leading a charge out from a corner in a game where there's 5minutes to go and we're leading 2-1 seems pretty sensible. Particularly given that it shows an intent that villa fans in particular won't be used to, I can't recall many seasons where we've scored for fun, I think we will this year and it's going to surprise a lot of people.
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
What is that tune? I'd never heard it before Wigan.
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
What is that tune? I'd never heard it before Wigan.
I don't get it. What's the point? Why would we care about any other club and why would they care about us?
Am I missing something?
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
I don't care about Freethinker...
The Noses sung it about Carson Yeung when they took 867, 875, 809 fans to Bruge.
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
I don't care about Freethinker...
The Noses sung it about Carson Yeung when they took 867, 875, 809 fans to Bruge.
...he don't care about you...
Surely the fact that the noses sang it first should be enough to put anyone off.
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
What is that tune? I'd never heard it before Wigan.
I don't get it. What's the point? Why would we care about any other club and why would they care about us?
Am I missing something?
I was in a box on Saturday, pretty much overlooking the Villa fans. I couldnt work out what they were singing at first but my mate (Forest) and I agreed it was catchy and sounded impressive. But that might have just been the occasion.
If we are beating Chelsea tomorrow then I'll happily join in with it. And I've taught the missus how to sing it too because she is coming to the game.
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I dont care about Chelsea....
Grrr! I couldn't get that sodding tune out of my head for hours after the Wigan match. It sounds like something Zippy and Bungle might sing in an episode of Rainbow.
What is that tune? I'd never heard it before Wigan.
I don't get it. What's the point? Why would we care about any other club and why would they care about us?
Am I missing something?
i liked it originally as it came about when everyone was banging on about Wigan slipping up to keep us up, but we were singing we don't care about Wigan as we'd kepp ourselves up and not have to rely on anyone else.
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I wasn't that keen on it when it first started but it did sound pretty good on Saturday.
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Is it only me who thinks it looks even cooler because he's left-footed?
Yeah, the shot was a casual kind of sweep of a shot, too.
As well as reminding me of that Staunton goal, it also made me think of one of my favourite moments of last season - and a moment I think sums up Lambert's Villa quite well - which was the last goal at Stoke, where we have four of our players bearing down on their keeper and not a Stoke defender anywhere in sight.
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Yeah, the shot was a casual kind of sweep of a shot, too.
As well as reminding me of that Staunton goal, it also made me think of one of my favourite moments of last season - and a moment I think sums up Lambert's Villa quite well - which was the last goal at Stoke, where we have four of our players bearing down on their keeper and not a Stoke defender anywhere in sight.
And he wrong footed Chez-Knee. It was the finish of someone almost expecting to be in that position.
And I loved that Stoke goal as well. The determination to attack in swarms whether winning or losing is so refreshingly different from any of the other Lerner-era managers (even the enlightened-but-flawed GH was more cautious in his style). It's made so many of us unable to wait for the next match, me included, just because anything might happen, and unpredictability in this way is a way of perpetually sustaining hope - and if football's not about hope, it's not about anything.
I love Tony Moon.
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
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i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
That's a great video, the noise the fans make when it goes in.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
i put this in match thread but thought it could be put on here
its a you tube clip of his goal filmed from the arsenal end just above the villa support.
its includes his goal and carries on til the end of the game
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
Does anyone else think he's the least 22 year old looking 22 year old they've ever seen?
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
Does anyone else think he's the least 22 year old looking 22 year old they've ever seen?
Yes! I was astounded when someone on here wrote that all our summer signings were under 23 (I think).
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Normally when you shave your beard off, it makes you look younger.
It didn't really happen for Antonio.
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
Does anyone else think he's the least 22 year old looking 22 year old they've ever seen?
Some of the players pre-season were engaging in a bit of banter about this - Gabby or Delph I think saying they thought he was 42 not 22!
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
Does anyone else think he's the least 22 year old looking 22 year old they've ever seen?
Some of the players pre-season were engaging in a bit of banter about this - Gabby or Delph I think saying they thought he was 42 not 22!
There was an article on the OS where Delph was going on about Luna having an "old man's saggy ball bag".
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A face like someone had drawn a picture of Gordon Brown on a scrotum, wasn't it?
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A face like someone had drawn a picture of Gordon Brown on a scrotum, wasn't it?
I think it was Nicklas Helenius who chipped in with that line.
The boy has picked up English phenomenally quickly.
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And well done to him.
His ability to recite passages from episodes of Brasseye and Blackadder raised eyebrows as well I believe.
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His AVTV interview on joining was ace.
That bit at the end: "There's just one bit of your interview I'd like to change, Jack" "What's that?" "The words".
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There's massive Tony Moon love in going on here!!
To add some balance, just think how old he makes you feel when you realise he wasn't even born when Platty (aka Moonface coincidentally) scored his goal against Belgium in the 1990 World Cup and yet here he is scoring a goal on his Villa debut to make it 3-1 in Arsenal's back yard!!!
In my mind, anyone who's too young to have been around for Italia 90 can't possibly be old enough to play professional football (or do any other job for that matter). It makes me feel VERY old!
Does anyone else think he's the least 22 year old looking 22 year old they've ever seen?
Can Luna qualify as being our first Nigerian born signing?
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And well done to him.
His ability to recite passages from episodes of Brasseye and Blackadder raised eyebrows as well I believe.
What impressed me most was the bit where they chucked him an old rubiks cube and he solved it in under 10 seconds, a couple of seconds off world record pace but still hats off to Moony, I can only manage two sides on a good day.
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Very likeable. And has been impressive. Go mooney .......
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The least 22 year old looking 22 year old goes to Robben when he was 22.
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Will fans of Antonio be known as Moonies?
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A promising start to his Villa career.
Think as a wing back style player he gives us extra options a bit of much needed width when going forward so is already a plus there. Would be good if he can deliver a good cross and be a good tackler too.
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Thought he put a couple of useful looking crosses over last night. Unfortunately they were at times when only Wiemann was in the box. If he can learn to pick-out Benteke, I think he's capable of producing a few assists this season.
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Really impressed with him so far, he looks a snip at Ł1.7m.
I'm also surprised no-one has thought of a song for him to the tune of Button Moon.
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I am over the moon with him so far - long may it continue.
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Really impressed with him so far, he looks a snip at Ł1.7m.
I'm also surprised no-one has thought of a song for him to the tune of Button Moon.
Lets sing for Tony Moon
He's faster than Chris Froome
Tony Moon Tony Moon
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Definitely very happy with him.
Don't think he'll get the assists Bennett did though, as he doesn't have the same cross on him. But worth it while Bennett looks so weak defensively. But we'll need Lowton to get back to his best or we risk lacking width.
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Definitely very happy with him.
Don't think he'll get the assists Bennett did though, as he doesn't have the same cross on him. But worth it while Bennett looks so weak defensively. But we'll need Lowton to get back to his best or we risk lacking width.
I do like Bennett but i think luna has a decent overlap and cross on him and gets forward often , i agree Lowton has looked off form so far and he needs to deliver soon or bacuna may well get the nod .
Same could be said regarding Westwood who hasn't yet recaptured last seasons form , with kea and sylla waiting for the chance Westwood needs to step up or risk losing his place.
Healthy competition for places though which was sadly lacking last season.
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I went to an agricultural show today and they were doing ferret racing, and I bet on Luna to win and it did!
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I went to an agricultural show today and they were doing ferret racing, and I bet on Luna to win and it did!
There's only one 'fast' Tony Moon!!!
Have you won your fortune?
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No not really it was only fun betting.
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*bump*
Those who enjoy the work of thriller writer and Villa fan Lee Child might like to know that his latest work, `Personal', contains a reference to a character called Antonio Luna, from whom a female character has borrowed some tranquillisers.
...she dug in her own pocket and came out with her pills cupped in her hand. seven of them. Fewer than before. She blew dust off them, and picked up the bottle, and popped the lid with her thumb, and shovelled the pills back inside
I said, `Who is Antonio Luna?'
'A friend of mine,' she said. 'I call him Tony Moon.'
`A co-worker?'
` Just a guy I know'
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Is he still a Villa player?
Is he actually playing anywhere ATM?
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Yes.
Yes, on loan at Spezia in Serie B
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I wonder what will happens next season to players like Tony Moon, Gladiator, Joe Bennett, Gary Gardner, and Yacouba Sylla. Will someone get their chance. It would be interesting to see who Tim Sherwood like or don't like.
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I wonder what will happens next season to players like Tony Moon, Gladiator, Joe Bennett, Gary Gardner, and Yacouba Sylla. Will someone get their chance. It would be interesting to see who Tim Sherwood like or don't like.
They could all be in the team if there's a league game away at Bristol City
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Gladiator?
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Gladiator?
Helenius
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and also Tonev if we have him back from Celtic as well.
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and also Tonev if we have him back from Celtic as well.
I think he's a gonna to be honest. Don't see any other option than to get rid of him as quickly as possible.
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Gladiator?
Helenius
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I decided he sounded like a Gladiator when he signed, and it's sort of stuck.
I don't mind most of them having another chance, we've already seen how much Lambert was holding back a lot of the players, maybe the same applies to them as well.
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I wonder what will happens next season to players like Tony Moon, Gladiator, Joe Bennett, Gary Gardner, and Yacouba Sylla. Will someone get their chance. It would be interesting to see who Tim Sherwood like or don't like.
I think Gardner, Bennett and Robinson will get a chance, possibly Helenius. Sylla, Luna and Tonev I can't see being here next season.
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I wonder what will happens next season to players like Tony Moon, Gladiator, Joe Bennett, Gary Gardner, and Yacouba Sylla. Will someone get their chance. It would be interesting to see who Tim Sherwood like or don't like.
I think Gardner, Bennett and Robinson will get a chance, possibly Helenius. Sylla, Luna and Tonev I can't see being here next season.
Agreed
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Really impressed with him so far, he looks a snip at Ł1.7m.
I'm also surprised no-one has thought of a song for him to the tune of Button Moon.
Some comments can come back to bite you on the ass ;D
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I decided he sounded like a Gladiator when he signed, and it's sort of stuck.
I don't mind most of them having another chance, we've already seen how much Lambert was holding back a lot of the players, maybe the same applies to them as well.
The 19th minute Petrov tribute, this...it's quite a H&V CV in fairness.
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And I started calling Albion the Bitters. McGregor, Rinder and Ramsay have nowt on me!
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We need to erect a new statue.
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I deserve two statues. Although at my age any kind of erection is a bonus.
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...and the cry went up, 'Another statue!'
Count me in.
(Who of?)
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apparently he has gone to Eibar on a 2 year contract...thanks for the goal at the Emirates Tone...
UTV
The Doc
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May I be the first...could have been worse...could have gone to TBAR.
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Announced on the
Eibar (http://www.sdeibar.com/-/el-lateral-izquierdo-antonio-luna-jugara-en-el-eibar-las-dos-proximas-temporadas) website.
The clear-out seems to be going reasonably well this summer.
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Sherwood must be lining all the dross up on the pavement with a few wacky waving inflatables and hawking them like a used car salesman.
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apparently he has gone to Eibar on a 2 year contract...thanks for the goal at the Emirates Tone...
UTV
The Doc
I bloody loved that goal!
All the best Tony Moon!
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always worth another look frankmosswasmyuncle...
UTV
The Doc
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Sherwood must be lining all the dross up on the pavement with a few wacky waving inflatables and hawking them like a used car salesman.
I can imagine Tim laying on the patter a bit like Del Boy. He's probably got the Sheepskin coat too.
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Thanks for that goal Tony.
Now we've got rid of quite a few players most of us deemed not good enough we really need to be replacing with quality signings!
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Good luck Tony. Next out of the door has to be Tonev one would hope. Interesting to see if Joe Bennett survives the cull.
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Thanks for everything Tony. Very sad to see an absolute legend leave. You did so much for the Villa....
Slash...the goal on your debut!!!
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it takes more than a winning smile and being hirsute to be a competent footballer. Over the moon he's gone.
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And in other news, Tony Moon in threesome sex tape shocker.
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it takes more than a winning smile and being hirsute to be a competent footballer. Over the moon he's gone.
Quoting an old post I know but Jedinak is proving the same
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Tony Moon in the news today - if you go on to 'view content' after clicking the link, do not be shocked. Ha ha
I'd delete that. Very NSFW
PWS: Link removed.
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I think this needs removing
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Delete and lock
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Why lock it? It's hardly unfounded gossip as Luna and the other player have already apologised for it.
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We want to state that the video shows a recording of a private act which took place between fully consenting adults, within the scope of the freedoms we all enjoy.
We deeply regret that an indiscretion for which we are not responsible has led to these images being published without our knowledge or, far less, our consent.
We likewise regret the potential damage [not only] to our image but in particular to that of our club, whose colours we represent, and that it could have offended our supporters and the city of Eibar in general.
We are aware that professional footballers should set an example in every walk of life, especially to children; this being the reason we apologise if this incident has caused harm to anyone.
Equally, we want to apologise for the damage the circulation of this video could cause to the third person involved in the video.
We wish to stress that, as Eibar players, an exemplary club that represents a set of fans and a city equally exemplary, we stand by the values that have been shown to us since we arrived in Eibar. We hope this incident does not in any way harm the image of the club, nor that of our team-mates.
Sergi Enrich and Antonio Luna.
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Postma, Young and Luna; Villa Home Movie Heroes
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He always did have the knack of getting up and down.
The dirty little sod
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At least we now have an answer as to whether he is better suited to being (at a club that is) top or bottom (of the league)
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Sounds like a total #lad to me.
We should bring him back.
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From all appearances, everyone was having fun. Which is nice (if so). But what sort of chum publishes that sort of thing?
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I always said he'd be great playing in the hole.
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and...
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(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2014/01/york.gif)
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Those American golf fans have a lot to answer for
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...There it is.
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...There it is.
Cheers, we aim to please Dave
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Without having seen anything, is it fair to say that he started really impressively, before fading away quickly and before too long everyone else involved had just forgotten that he was even there?
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Without having seen anything, is it fair to say that he started really impressively, before fading away quickly and before too long everyone else involved had just forgotten that he was even there?
I think we'd have to see more of him her.
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From all appearances, everyone was having fun. Which is nice (if so). But what sort of chum publishes that sort of thing?
I can understand that the local Basque press might have reason to mention this.
But why in the name of holy fuck is "bloke who played badly for an English team every now and then back in 2013 and has played 19 matches in the last three years for clubs only one in a thousand people have heard of has had sex" headline news for the c*nts at the Sun and Mail?
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From all appearances, everyone was having fun. Which is nice (if so). But what sort of chum publishes that sort of thing?
I can understand that the local Basque press might have reason to mention this.
But why in the name of holy fuck is "bloke who played badly for an English team every now and then back in 2013 and has played 19 matches in the last three years for clubs only one in a thousand people have heard of has had sex" headline news for the c*nts at the Sun and Mail?
I'm mystified. Remind me, was he getting jiggy with a Kardashian?
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Tim Sherwood's reaction to the footage. At least he didn't have his hands clasped behind his back
(http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article9818950.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Tim-Sherwood-manager-of-Aston-Villa.jpg)
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Luna to Carrol. Prepare for mounting.
(http://cdn-teamtalk.365.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/06105027/Gareth-Bale-beats-Antonio-Luna.jpg)
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Bale surely.
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(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2014/01/york.gif)
Any chance to get that GIF in is worth taking.
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Postma, Young and Luna; Villa Home Movie Heroes
Yorke and Bozzie too.
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Postma, Young and Luna; Villa Home Movie Heroes
Yorke and Bozzie too.
Typing "training" on one of the very early versions of H&V used to bring up an interesting picture of those two.