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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: TonyD on May 14, 2013, 09:46:44 PM
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7th at least no bother.
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Champions League spot. Anything less and I will be dissapointed.
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Lower middle, still a work in progress methinks.
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9th.
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1st. Fuck it, we're Aston Villa, aim high!
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10th but no relegation worries.
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8th
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10th.
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Top half. I'll wait for the transfers before I say where in the top half.
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8th with 2 new centre half s
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10th - 12th for me
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7-8th
But we will win both cups
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Keep CB, buy a couple of defenders and a midfielder and it will be a great season.
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Bring on the dizzy heights of mid-table mediocrity.
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A nice boring season in mid table will do me fine after this,we are a work in progress and improving year on year is fine with me! Up the villa!!!!
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My more serious answer is 8th.
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7th and Europa League.
This season will have been the making of these lads, we'll be flying come August.
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Somewhere in the top eight. I reckon Everton and West Brom could potentially have dodgy seasons.
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8th - satisfactory
7th - good
6th - jolly good!
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After 33 games in the past three seasons we have only been on about a point a game before going on to secure safety.
Next season I genuinely think we will be on about 45 points with 33 games gone with a late surge such as this helping to push us into the top seven.
The crowds are back. We are an improving side. Everton are changing manager, United are changing manager, Spurs might lose Bale we have a good manager. We could find ourselves benefiting from upheaval elsewhere to secure a quick return to European football.
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Somewhere in the premier league! 8)
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Too early to say with any degree of certainty, way too many variables. We've got the basis of a bloody good team here though.
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7th and Europa League.
This season will have been the making of these lads, we'll be flying come August.
I don't want the Europa League, awful tournament imo. Agree that this group of players will be stronger next season, really excited by some of the stuff they've been playing recently, Lambert got it right, also impressed with how our fans stood by him, many otgher clubs fans wouldn't have. UTV
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8th. Always 8th.
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The crowds are back. We are an improving side. Everton are changing manager, United are changing manager, Spurs might lose Bale we have a good manager. We could find ourselves benefiting from upheaval elsewhere to secure a quick return to European football.
Agreed. Next season could represent an opportunity to do better than anticipated.
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Above the frigging Baggies after doing a wonderful double over them and setting their records for worst defeats.
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8th.
Even with how bad we've been this season, conceivably we could end up with the same number of points as the 10th place team.
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Forget next season. Anyone notice that if the results go to form (and Southampton -Stoke share the points) and we beat Wigan on Sunday, we could finish 11th on 43 points. Bonkers league this year!
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2nd surely (to Chelsea)
United in disarray, City in disarray, Arsenal on the way down, Spurs without Bale, Liverpool without Suarez, Everton without Moyes, everyone else rubbish.
No doubt...
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My wife, who cannot face seeing me rant through a 4th straight relegation campaign, says 'mid-table mediocrity', please.
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We'll finish 11th and West Brom will go down.
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7th and win the League Cup.
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Forget next season. Anyone notice that if the results go to form (and Southampton -Stoke share the points) and we beat Wigan on Sunday, we could finish 11th on 43 points. Bonkers league this year!
Finish above Norwich for Lambo. That would be nice.
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Can we have a 7th, 8th, or 9th option please.
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7th and Europa League.
This season will have been the making of these lads, we'll be flying come August.
I don't want the Europa League, awful tournament imo. Agree that this group of players will be stronger next season, really excited by some of the stuff they've been playing recently, Lambert got it right, also impressed with how our fans stood by him, many otgher clubs fans wouldn't have. UTV
I would love to be in the Dam to watch us in the final tomorrow.
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Above those horrible bastards from Smethwick, which won't be hard because they'll be bottom. Tenth at worst for us.
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We are only one win off 11th now. I'm saying 8th-10th at least.
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I always said that if we survive this season, we'd be fine next season. I really think that we'll be in the top half all season probably finishing about 8th.
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11th with no threat of relegation
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Any word from Goldielocks?
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Swansea will drop a bit aswell through being in the Europa league especially as I think they'll have a good run in that.
The premier league is very very average below the top 7, you don't need to spend 50m to finish 8th for example.
WBA will probably finish 8th on 48 points, previous seasons we've finished in the bottom half with that points total.
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Nowhere near the bottom three.
That is all.
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How many calls will the club make tomorrow asking people if they are going to renew their season ticket ?
It's going to be a lot easier than some other clubs though..Stoke,Sunderland and the Whining Blackcountry Shites
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7th, a spot in Europe via a cup. We'll finish off the job we started in the League Cup
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I'm quietly confident next season. The attack is class, midfield trio is almost permanent and the defence just needs an addition or two. We just need people to rotate in as required as injuries / persistant playing will come into force sooner or later. Top half if we improve the squad and apart from one or two, Lambert can pick him.
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We aren't far from a more than decent side. I'm really hoping that with another years experiences for the kids, as well as the boost of confidence of staying up, as well as the quality of performances since HT vs Newcastle that we could be a bit tasty to watch. We've already seen in glimpses of what this side is capable of once they have a bit of confidence.
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1st.
Do you want to bet against us?
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Not really.
10th or so.
I hope we can keep Benteke for another season, and that we learn to defend. If we do, we'll be a decent side.
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1st.
Do you want to bet against us?
That's the season after. I'm not joking.
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Next season mid table, but more importantly by continuing to play attractive attacking football with Benteke getting 25 league goals.
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Champions League. With Benteke.
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves chaps. Without significant improvement to the squad we'll be an injured/suspended/off-form Benteke away from being in trouble again.
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10-12 spot will be fine progress
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10-12 spot will be fine progress
What if we finish there this season? Which is a real possibility.
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves chaps. Without significant improvement to the squad we'll be an injured/suspended/off-form Benteke away from being in trouble again.
This^^^
Also, Lambert teams tend to finish strongly - I wouldnt go expecting us to replicate this sort of form all season long.
That said, with the squad as it stands I'd say 10th-15th. A few additions (and holding on to The Beast of B6) and I'd say 8th-10th easily
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves chaps. Without significant improvement to the squad we'll be an injured/suspended/off-form Benteke away from being in trouble again.
So, I'm guessing, but we need more 'premier league experience'? Right?
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continuing to play attractive attacking football
We totally will!
Hold on to your seats!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Not sure, but I can't wait for August. There's a lot of goodwill behind this team, neutrals and some of the press like what we're trying to do, which is miles away from the way we were despised a year or two back.
I'll be happy with top 10 and progress in the cups (winning one would be nice).
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8th without a doubt and a cup
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves chaps. Without significant improvement to the squad we'll be an injured/suspended/off-form Benteke away from being in trouble again.
If we don't invest at all I fancy this squad as it is to finish top 10 quite easily. They've matured over the season. Get rid of the dross, and invest in some real quality and I think we can push for top 6 again.
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Denied the title by Phil Dowd sending off three of our players in the penultimate game for over-celebrating a goal.
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10th. Comfortably in midtable with hints of a Europe League push and a decent cup run is all I ask for.
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I want to finish ahead of the baggies next season and then kick on some.
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Request for our pre-season thread to be titled "We go again 2013-14"
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Request for our pre-season thread to be titled "We go again 2013-14"
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Request for our pre-season thread to be titled "We go again 2013-14"
I'm calling in the Chewbacca defence:
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I expect the most interesting Premier League season for a while next year. Two new managers at the Manchester clubs, a likely return for Mourinho to Chelsea are already interesting, but I'm very excited about how we will shape up next year. Looking at the teams around us, I am confident that with a bit of experience and (hopefully) another Benteke-esk wildcard, we'll finish about 8th. And Wembley.
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Personally think it will be Manchester, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool who will occupy all 6 spots for a good few years yet. Evertons position could be up for grabs by someone and with the right kind of signings.
I went for 8th-10th...Ill be happy with that for 3 or 4 seasons just to get us back on our feet again.
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Hope that Lerner can see the building Lambert is doing and backs him with hard cash top CB and midfielder needed we took the lead against newcastle,southampton,norwich,man utd,qpr,wba,everton,
Liverpool,fulham, and chelsea where would we have finished if we held on to only 3 of those results
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55-60 pts.
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I'd be happy with a season of progress where we finish 8th - 10th and never once have to look over our shoulders. This coupled with some clean sheets and, assuming we don't win either of them, cup exits that don't make us national laughing stocks.
I certainly think we will be "too good to go down" next season: all of the promoted clubs will struggle, perhaps even one of those seasons when at least two of them go straight back down. Stoke are a busted flush and I don't think Pullis can re-invest himself tactically, Norwich and Albion's end to the season suggest a difficult season ahead - and I'd be worried if I was a Fulham fan. Southampton could go one of two ways - as could either of the North East clubs.
At the other end of the table, I think it'll all be business as usual despite the managerial changes. Man City and Chelsea will give their new manager mega-bucks to spend and Moyes will keep the momentum at United going with what will still be Ferguson's team. Arsenal, as per usual, will flatter to deceive, but will still have enough to finish fourth. Spurs and Liverpool will battle for 5th and are the most likely to sneak 4th if any of the others falter.
So mid-table will come down to a battle between us, Everton, West Ham and Swansea - plus whichever of Southampton, Newcastle or Sunderland has an improved season.
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8th to 10th!
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If Gabby, Benteke and Weimann build on this season's form and we strengthen in the various key departments, I feel we will be in the Liverpool/Spurs/ Arsenal territory of battling for places between 4th and 6th. We have too good a strike force to be mid-table and the lowest we will finish will be 8th. (I hope!)
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8th.
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6th to 8th would be a reasonable finishing position if some strengthening of the team takes place
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Around 10th-12th provided we address our defensive issues in the summer.
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The problem you have is if you name what you think is our current strongest first XI, as soon as you take one or two names out, then it starts to look extremely iffy. A few new faces and very few injuries then i can see us getting between 9th-12th. If we don't get the reinforcements and lose a few players injured then we could be bumping along the bottom again.
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It's too early to say. Massively dependent on keeping our best players and making good signings. Put a half decent defence in the current side and I think we could get top half- not in a 'comfortable top 8 all season' way unless there's a really dramatic defensive improvement
I doubt the teams coming out of the championship this year will be as strong as for the last two years (Southampton, west ham, Swansea and Norwich). I fancy all three to be bottom 5 material and at least one of the teams in brackets will struggle too - probably Norwich and hopefully west brom will struggle a bit without lukaku.
So it should certainly be possible to avoid bumping around the bottom all season. And if we're going to be mid table, I'll be much happier for it to involve the sort of football we've been playing recently - when compared to the Gregory days for example
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8th. The gap between Wigan and Albion (8th) is less than the gap between Albion and Everton in 6th .
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In general we don't really do mid table at Villa, do we? Either top six or bottom six, for as long as i can remember with a few exceptions. Next season its back to top six i hope, but obviously as mentioned by others, we need to see what happens. I trust Lambert to get right. A couple of good signings, keep Benteke and i believe we can literally go anywhere next season! Sod all this top 8-10 cautious optimism bollocks!
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7th or 8th. Our form in the second half of the season leads me to believe that we will beat the teams we should more often than not. When you couple that with the games we've literally given away from winning positions mostly due to comical defending then you have to think by fixing some of that with some good signings we can finish comfortably in an upper mid table position.
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7th to 15th I reckon. We're not going to join the top 6 and Liverpool, but we're as good/bad (however you see it) as anyone in the league from West Brom down (with Moyes leaving Everton, they'll be in that category).
However, so long as we play to win games and it's enjoyable, I am more than happy to keep buying my season ticket. This season has been more fun than the last two I think (possibly more than that (some football under MON was dire)).
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9th and a cup
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4th.
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We'll finish somewhere between 11th and 13th.
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11th BUT with away wins at ManUre, Citeh and Spuds.
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I'm going with 9th and the FA Cup.
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10th.
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Given the start we have.
I still say knocking on the CL door!
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Calm down Tony!
That said we should all be able to dream after the last few seasons.
Bring it on looking forward to how far we can go
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Newcastle were a surprise package knocking on the door the other year so you never know. It remains to be seen how we get on in our bread and butter games but our front 3 will always give us a chance. There seems to be more options with the players we've brought in, we seem more organised and the midfield are doing a good job of protecting the defence. After the shit we've been through in the last few years, things are looking up and this season looks like it's going to be a lot of fun.
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Newcastle were a surprise package knocking on the door the other year so you never know. It remains to be seen how we get on in our bread and butter games but our front 3 will always give us a chance. There seems to be more options with the players we've brought in, we seem more organised and the midfield are doing a good job of protecting the defence. After the shit we've been through in the last few years, things are looking up and this season looks like it's going to be a lot of fun.
That's 6th to 3rd.
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Top 8 for me and pushing for top 6 most times. We won't have enough in the end, but we might sneak a Europa position via the league. Mind you, having said that a cup is well within our capabilities.
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Home form will be the key if we are to make real progress up the league this season. Can't help but wonder if we are still better suited to playing away than at home and are still lacking that player that can open up teams that are set up to defend at Villa Park.
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My more serious answer is 8th.
I still think this is about where we'll be. To finish much higher we'll need a good following wind with injuries, especially for the likes of Gabby, Delph, Benteke.
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I think 7th to 9th.
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I think 7th to 9th.
Me too.
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Anywhere from 7th down to 12th I think
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Between 6th and 12th assuming we maintain the performances of the last two games and we don't lose anyone in the transfer windows.
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If we beat Liverpool, I reckon we could really push on Ron-Saunders-style.
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If we beat Liverpool, I reckon we could really push on Ron-Saunders-style.
Not really, it takes about ten games for the league to take shape I am not a fan of getting carried away after a couple good displays.
I am confident we will be in no danger of going down. The strikers already have had a good start, the younger players are improving and if a few of the new buys prove good then that it going to improve us no end.
Long term I see us becoming a top six club again under this manager, but for this season I am happy finishing half way up.
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8th
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If we beat Liverpool, I reckon we could really push on Ron-Saunders-style.
Not really, it takes about ten games for the league to take shape I am not a fan of getting carried away after a couple good displays.
I am confident we will be in no danger of going down. The strikers already have had a good start, the younger players are improving and if a few of the new buys prove good then that it going to improve us no end.
Long term I see us becoming a top six club again under this manager, but for this season I am happy finishing half way up.
Want to bet against us?
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If Everton lose Fellaini and Baines I reckon 7th is definitely up for grabs. Think everyone knows who the top six will be.
Our main challengers are likely to be Everton, west ham and Southampton, in my view. Southampton's academy must be the best in the country at the moment: bale, Walcott, AOC, shaw, lallana. If we could improve ours to that level, we'd be in a great place.
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Anywhere between 8th - 11th
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Top 7, maybe sneaking into 6th, depending on injuries.
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top 10 will do for now...and that blasted FA cup too...
UTV
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I mentioned to a Chelsea fan I work with that I thought we would easily be top 8. He laughed and offered me the line at top half. £50 is now booked, they better not let me down
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I mentioned to a Chelsea fan I work with that I thought we would easily be top 8. He laughed and offered me the line at top half. £50 is now booked, they better not let me down
Take the money now.
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9th/10th. If we could sort out the defence it could be higher but I expect the lack of clean sheets will cost us a couple of places.
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10th-12th. Will struggle against teams who sit back.
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9th/10th. If we could sort out the defence it could be higher but I expect the lack of clean sheets will cost us a couple of places.
I'd go along with that. Until and unless we can keep a clean sheet we need 2 or more goals to win a game, so we'll have games like Saturday where it just doesn't happen for us in front of goal.
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Currently 9th, GD 0. After last season, if we finish with that then I'll be satisfied.
Anything better than that, including a cup, is a a bonus.
Have a look at the predictions here, scroll down to the Villa - not sure who John Ray is, is he on here?
http://afootballreport.com/post/58418785305/the-long-road-to-premier-league
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8th, like that latter Gregory glory years.
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10th and FA cup quarters
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8th-10th. Steady but encouraging progress.
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We can get as high as 7th or 8th, but only if we can start keeping clean sheets every now and then. We can't keep on having to score one just to get a draw.