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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Simon Ward on April 10, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3139453,00.html
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Arrgghhh, bloody sky.
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Damn, I'm in work that day till 2 and too late to change it now - i hope Chelsea beat city on Sunday and make this irrelevant.
It's the day of the fa cup final too.
This is the main reason i let my season ticket go -much preferred the 3pm Saturday games rather than all these different kick off times.
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It says the change is subject to their FA Cup involvement.
I have a job keeping up with all these changes, one of these days I can see me missing a game beacuse of it.
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Damn, I'm in work that day till 2 and too late to change it now - i hope Chelsea beat city on Sunday and make this irrelevant.
It's the day of the fa cup final too.
Certainly don't. Don't want those scum catching our trophy count and don't want to have to play midweek before the Wigan game.
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Damn, I'm in work that day till 2 and too late to change it now - i hope Chelsea beat city on Sunday and make this irrelevant.
It's the day of the fa cup final too.
Certainly don't. Don't want those scum catching our trophy count and don't want to have to play midweek before the Wigan game.
The more game for Chelsea the better the chance of a weakened side against us.
The Europa league final is 15th so if they get there that midweek is out - 3 days before the fa cup final would see them put out a weaker team maybe.
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On Sky! Guess we can write this game off then.
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You'd think they'd wait until Chelsea's involvement in the FA Cup is sorted before announcing a date & time. Essentially they're saying it's been moved to Saturday at 12.45 but it might not be but buy a ticket anyway.
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On Sky! Guess we can write this game off then.
After Fulham 3 of the next 4 are on TV
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The one game i was under the impression that was going to be moved was Norwich away, nothing yet though.
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The one game i was under the impression that was going to be moved was Norwich away, nothing yet though.
I think all the televised games are now chosen clampy so you can rest assured Norwich will be as scheduled.
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So a game that's already been moved, is moved again, to a date when it might need moving. Well done everybody.
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The one game i was under the impression that was going to be moved was Norwich away, nothing yet though.
I think all the televised games are now chosen clampy so you can rest assured
Norwich will be as scheduled.
I was just going by what the ticket office told a mate of mine when he rang up to book his Norwich ticket. They told him it may be subject to change. I'll ring up tomorrow and ask the question.
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The one game i was under the impression that was going to be moved was Norwich away, nothing yet though.
I think all the televised games are now chosen clampy so you can rest assured
Norwich will be as scheduled.
I was just going by what the ticket office told a mate of mine when he rang up to book his Norwich ticket. They told him it may be subject to change. I'll ring up tomorrow and ask the question.
Maybe they were awaiting tv to choose their remaining live games which I think has now been done apart from the last day when all games kick off at the same time anyway?
Still no problem asking just to be 100% sure.
Seems odd moving the Chelsea game before they play their cup tie , unless there is a minimum notice they need to give of change of date?
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Damn, I'm in work that day till 2 and too late to change it now - i hope Chelsea beat city on Sunday and make this irrelevant.
It's the day of the fa cup final too.
Certainly don't. Don't want those scum catching our trophy count and don't want to have to play midweek before the Wigan game.
The more game for Chelsea the better the chance of a weakened side against us.
The Europa league final is 15th so if they get there that midweek is out - 3 days before the fa cup final would see them put out a weaker team maybe.
Finishing in the top four is more important to them then winning trophies. No chance they'll put out a weakened team against us.
Our tiny, fragile squad like Chocolate Concrete Ron will be weakened though by having to play two games in a week. We also want Wigan playing before our game too so come on Wigan and come on Man City.
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On Sky! Guess we can write this game off then.
We beat West Ham.
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The team they put out at saints was weakened , benitez will want to win the cups and finish top 4 , he has a big squad to rotate.
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The team they put out at saints was weakened , benitez will want to win the cups and finish top 4 , he has a big squad to rotate.
The team they put out at Southampton was two days before a match against Man U. They hardly need to rest so many players for a piss-easy game against Wigan or Millwall. Plus, I really don't want those utter, classless, Combat 18 filth catching our trophy total.
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Shit
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So it's moved, but not entirely sure to when. Cracking.
But why us? Is it just about their CL qualification? Or vultures circling in the misguided hope of another 8-goal kicking? Sunderland-Southampton that weekend, along with Stoke-Spurs. Surely the latter will have much more riding on it?
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So it's moved, but not entirely sure to when. Cracking.
But why us? Is it just about their CL qualification? Or vultures circling in the misguided hope of another 8-goal kicking? Sunderland-Southampton that weekend, along with Stoke-Spurs. Surely the latter will have much more riding on it?
Stoke get paid to not be on TV. I kid you not.
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They don't appear to have a back-up game for that Saturday, so I take it it'll be televised whenever it's played. Eight o'clock midweeks are bad enough too, I'm at the age when I like to be in bed at a respectable hour!
And Dave, they're showing sunderland-stoke on the 6th. Now there's potential for the worst football ever televised.
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On Sky! Guess we can write this game off then.
After Fulham 3 of the next 4 are on TV
We have been involved in quite alot of live games this season TBH. More then many over clubs. Shame our record on live games is pretty pathetic though.
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The OS says the fixture has been changed from the Sunday. Was it always due to be on the Sunday?
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The OS says the fixture has been changed from the Sunday. Was it always due to be on the Sunday?
Yes because the fa cup final is on Saturday and a few games had moved to Sunday.
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People ...this is a problem of being a big club. Sky want us on their schedule and that's it.
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The OS says the fixture has been changed from the Sunday. Was it always due to be on the Sunday?
Yes because the fa cup final is on Saturday and a few games had moved to Sunday.
All the games were always due to be played on the Sunday.......
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The OS says the fixture has been changed from the Sunday. Was it always due to be on the Sunday?
Yes because the fa cup final is on Saturday and a few games had moved to Sunday.
All the games were always due to be played on the Sunday.......
So the Cup Final will/would have its own day in the sun?
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Why don't the feckers just go the whole hog and text us the day before the game with the time and the venue like those ravers used to do.
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So we will most likely be kicking off at 12:45 on cup final Saturday. So our game will finish at around 2:45pm. Not much chance of watching the cup final then either. Thanks Sky you pack of ******.
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Isn't the cup final a 5:15 ko again?
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Why don't the feckers just go the whole hog and text us the day before the game with the time and the venue like those ravers used to do.
Excellent! Quote of the week including 'owt from the Fatcher thread.
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Isn't the cup final a 5:15 ko again?
Not been announced as far as I know but there was much criticism of a late kick off last season and it seemed all other games had been moved this season from Saturday.
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Jesus Christ ...cup final FA CUP FINAL ko time not yet fixed...fuckin Sky
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Jesus Christ ...cup final FA CUP FINAL ko time not yet fixed...fuckin Sky
Much as I would love to blame SKY this one is down to ITV/ESPN I am afraid............
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The FA Cup final is invariably a really shit game.
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Whatever happened to the F.A Cup Final (sponsored by whoever) at 3pm on a Saturday. Mind you, whatever happened to the semi final's being played on neutral grounds. The F.A have a lot answer for.
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Whatever happened to the F.A Cup Final (sponsored by whoever) at 3pm on a Saturday. Mind you, whatever happened to the semi final's being played on neutral grounds. The F.A have a lot answer for.
Very true clampy , interesting the fa are now giving loads of tickets to the armed forces and creating a neutral zone for fans at Saturdays semi as wigan have only sold 14000 tickets.
I'm sure the swathes of empty seats are not what they expected when moving all semis to Wembley.
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The idea of a pie eater spilling his crumbs on my seat in the Holte does make me shudder mind.
A good idea by the FA and to be honest, the kick off times are a pain, but if the Villa were in the FA Cup final, I wouldn't care if it was played at 1am on a Wednesday.
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The idea of a pie eater spilling his crumbs on my seat in the Holte does make me shudder mind.
A good idea by the FA and to be honest, the kick off times are a pain, but if the Villa were in the FA Cup final, I wouldn't care if it was played at 1am on a Wednesday.
Semi Final's at Wembley are a terrible idea and defeat the whole object really. It's just the F.A's way of helping pay for a stadium they stupidly overspent on.
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The idea of a pie eater spilling his crumbs on my seat in the Holte does make me shudder mind.
A good idea by the FA and to be honest, the kick off times are a pain, but if the Villa were in the FA Cup final, I wouldn't care if it was played at 1am on a Wednesday.
Semi Final's at Wembley are a terrible idea and defeat the whole object really. It's just the F.A's way of helping pay for a stadium they stupidly overspent on.
True, except that we played our semi at the old Wembley in 2000.
It's a crap idea, whatever the rationale for it.
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The idea of a pie eater spilling his crumbs on my seat in the Holte does make me shudder mind.
A good idea by the FA and to be honest, the kick off times are a pain, but if the Villa were in the FA Cup final, I wouldn't care if it was played at 1am on a Wednesday.
Semi Final's at Wembley are a terrible idea and defeat the whole object really. It's just the F.A's way of helping pay for a stadium they stupidly overspent on.
Agreed, getting to the final at Wembley was a huge thing and still Is of course but the semi finals also at Wembley somewhat takes the gloss of things and cheapens the competition a bit.
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Why don't the feckers just go the whole hog and text us the day before the game with the time and the venue like those ravers used to do.
No mobiles in those days. It was a case of meeting at the West End Bar and following the convoy. Maybe we should do that?
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Just to clarify, my good idea comment was for giving out extra tickets as Wigan haven't flogged to many.
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Here's a radical idea - rather than fcuk around with the fixtures like this, they could hold the FA Cup final at 3.00 on the Saturday after the end of the season. Can't see such it catching on though.
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Here's a radical idea - rather than fcuk around with the fixtures like this, they could hold the FA Cup final at 3.00 on the Saturday after the end of the season. Can't see such it catching on though.
Wasnt an option this season due the champions league final being at Wembley .
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That's this year's excuse Eastie. There always seems to be some UEFA edict - x weeks between the end of season and the Euros or CL final which the FA bow to. It shouldn't be beyond the wit of the PL to get a full set of fixtures in midweek well before the end of the season - especially with the reduced number of teams/games in the top flight now - leaving the requisite gap. The FA Cup final has long lost its shine and playing it on the same day or weekend as normal fixtures only adds to its demise.
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That's this year's excuse Eastie. There always seems to be some UEFA edict - x weeks between the end of season and the Euros or CL final which the FA bow to. It shouldn't be beyond the wit of the PL to get a full set of fixtures in midweek well before the end of the season - especially with the reduced number of teams/games in the top flight now - leaving the requisite gap. The FA Cup final has long lost its shine and playing it on the same day or weekend as normal fixtures only adds to its demise.
Totally agree cj.
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So, can someone tell me if the simplest of terms what needs to happen for the match to revert back to the Sunday please?
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So, can someone tell me if the simplest of terms what needs to happen for the match to revert back to the Sunday please?
Sky telly to mysteriously disappear
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So, can someone tell me if the simplest of terms what needs to happen for the match to revert back to the Sunday please?
If Chelsea win their semi final the match will be rearranged possibly for midweek before cup final.
Either way it won't revert back to Sunday.
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So, can someone tell me if the simplest of terms what needs to happen for the match to revert back to the Sunday please?
As Eastie says, it won't now go back to the Sunday. It'll only go to a midweek, although if Chelsea reach the final of both the FA Cup and Europa League they have a problem in that they will only have one free midweek before the end of the season - which is the one before the FA Cup final - and would have to fit in their games with both us and Spurs somehow.
At the moment of course, both them and Spurs could reach the semis of the Europa League so if that happens it seems the fairest solution is they play each other in the league on the Monday before one of their Thursday semis, leaving us to play Tues/Wed 7/8th May.
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Here's a radical idea - rather than fcuk around with the fixtures like this, they could hold the FA Cup final at 3.00 on the Saturday after the end of the season. Can't see such it catching on though.
Wasnt an option this season due the champions league final being at Wembley .
And they couldn't just move the end of the Premier League forward by a week because?...
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So, if chelsea win this weekend, the match against us shall probably on the Wednesday before the Cup final. But, and I know it's bugger-all to do with us, that still leaves them with the spurs game. They fail to make the Europa final, play it on that day. However, if, god-forbid, they make that final too, I wouldn't be too amazed if it were played after everyone else has finished. Two reasons: firstly, there is a sizable precedent in the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'-arse title decider of '89; secondly, if it turns out to be a CL qualification showdown, Sky would wank themselves silly to have this as a stand-alone game.
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So, if chelsea win this weekend, the match against us shall probably on the Wednesday before the Cup final. But, and I know it's bugger-all to do with us, that still leaves them with the spurs game. They fail to make the Europa final, play it on that day. However, if, god-forbid, they make that final too, I wouldn't be too amazed if it were played after everyone else has finished. Two reasons: firstly, there is a sizable precedent in the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'-arse title decider of '89; secondly, if it turns out to be a CL qualification showdown, Sky would wank themselves silly to have this as a stand-alone game.
All matches must be completed by the final day of the season - if necessary Chelsea would probably have to play on the Monday and possibly thurs night of the final week - it cannot be played after the 19th may.
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wouldn't it be easier to give us the points and erase the problem?
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Yes. I agree with that 100% ;D
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So, if chelsea win this weekend, the match against us shall probably on the Wednesday before the Cup final. But, and I know it's bugger-all to do with us, that still leaves them with the spurs game. They fail to make the Europa final, play it on that day. However, if, god-forbid, they make that final too, I wouldn't be too amazed if it were played after everyone else has finished. Two reasons: firstly, there is a sizable precedent in the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'-arse title decider of '89; secondly, if it turns out to be a CL qualification showdown, Sky would wank themselves silly to have this as a stand-alone game.
All matches must be completed by the final day of the season - if necessary Chelsea would probably have to play on the Monday and possibly thurs night of the final week - it cannot be played after the 19th may.
Fair enough, it was just a thought.
Sky ad on tawkspawt just, plugging the chelsea-spurs game tomorrow. I take it Sky realise they're unavailable?!
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Here's a radical idea - rather than fcuk around with the fixtures like this, they could hold the FA Cup final at 3.00 on the Saturday after the end of the season. Can't see such it catching on though.
They would but Uefa have fcuked that up by a) moving the champions league final from a Wednesday to the Saturday after the final prem fixtures and b) choosing Wembley again as their cash cow venue.
What I want to know is say Chelsea win today and beat Basle, not only when would we play them but when on earth would they play Spurs at home which was their league fixture this weekend?
They can't play it on Wednesday as they've got Fulham away and the next two midweeks are eaten up by the two Basle games and then the midweek before the final day they could be in the europa league final.
Could there be a mind boggling scenario where they could have to play their league fixture on the saturday, Spurs on the monday night, us on the Wednesday and then the cup final on the saturday?
They would be shot with a fixture list like that.
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So, if chelsea win this weekend, the match against us shall probably on the Wednesday before the Cup final. But, and I know it's bugger-all to do with us, that still leaves them with the spurs game. They fail to make the Europa final, play it on that day. However, if, god-forbid, they make that final too, I wouldn't be too amazed if it were played after everyone else has finished. Two reasons: firstly, there is a sizable precedent in the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'-arse title decider of '89; secondly, if it turns out to be a CL qualification showdown, Sky would wank themselves silly to have this as a stand-alone game.
All matches must be completed by the final day of the season - if necessary Chelsea would probably have to play on the Monday and possibly thurs night of the final week - it cannot be played after the 19th may.
The europa league final is that midweek and on the wednesday so there's no way Chelsea would play that monday night, 48 hours before a europe final (I expect them to beat Basle over two legs). That said Man. City have dominated the first 15 minutes today and I expect them to win and us to play them on cup final weekend.
Amen to Malandaro's suggestion anyway!
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Saturday 11th may it is then!
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Cool. Let's hope they play Spurs on Weds May 8th, beat them and secure top 4 and then put a weak team against us as they'll be saving their first 11 for the europa final the following Wednesday.
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Cool. Let's hope they play Spurs on Weds May 8th, beat them and secure top 4 and then put a weak team against us as they'll be saving their first 11 for the europa final the following Wednesday.
We couldn`t beat a weakened Fulham side so how are we gonna beat chelski?
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I don't expect to beat Chelsea but don't think a point is out of the question.
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I don't expect to beat Chelsea but don't think a point is out of the question.
Take anything right now ..its looking glum though
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Oh we are again ah?
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Just need Allback fired-up for this and we'll be grand.
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Cool. Let's hope they play Spurs on Weds May 8th, beat them and secure top 4 and then put a weak team against us as they'll be saving their first 11 for the europa final the following Wednesday.
We couldn`t beat a weakened Fulham side so how are we gonna beat chelski?
Yes, that's just how football works. It's why we're all millionaires because results are so easy to predict.
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Cool. Let's hope they play Spurs on Weds May 8th, beat them and secure top 4 and then put a weak team against us as they'll be saving their first 11 for the europa final the following Wednesday.
We couldn`t beat a weakened Fulham side so how are we gonna beat chelski?
Yes, that's just how football works. It's why we're all millionaires because results are so easy to predict.
Weakened how? Because they had no Sidwell, a player hardly any of us rated when he played for us?
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As far as I could see Fulham weren't weakened. They had their only player playing up front and in midfield for them. I had no idea who the other 9 outfield players were, I am not sure Jol does either.
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Fulham have a far more settled squad than us, a fair bit of experience and players who are decent in possession. They got a lucky goal but we had two let-offs before that and we actually took the lead during their best spell.
Should we go down there's at least half a dozen games I'll look back and think "that's where we fucked-up" and I don't think this will be one of them.
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We're doomed.
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Saturday lunchtime works for me. Chelsea have put out weakened sides and gifted to points to every other bugger down the bottom so why not us?
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Fulham have a far more settled squad than us, a fair bit of experience and players who are decent in possession. They got a lucky goal but we had two let-offs before that and we actually took the lead during their best spell.
Should we go down there's at least half a dozen games I'll look back and think "that's where we fucked-up" and I don't think this will be one of them.
I agree, thought Fulham passed it well in central midfield and had control of the second half even after we scored hence Lambert's substitutions.
I actually think the Liverpool game was more of a missed opportunity, should've got at least a point from that considering their two games since have been 0-0s against West Ham and Reading. Guess that shows how bad defensively we really are.
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Again, there are plenty of relegation threads to comment on without this one as well.
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Thinking about Chelsea and how tired they may or may not be, there can't have been many teams who have ever had busier seasons.
The Community Shield, a full Premier League season, the final of the World Club Cup, the European Super Cup, the semi-final of the FA Cup, the semi-final of the League Cup, two semi-final matches and possibly a final in the Europa League and six Champions League games before they were dumped into the Europa League.
Apart from starting the Europa League from scratch instead of the Champions League, that's basically as long a season as it's possible to have isn't it?
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How many games did we play in 09/10? Not as much as Chelsea obviously but that must have been our busiest season for a long time.
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Thinking about Chelsea and how tired they may or may not be, there can't have been many teams who have ever had busier seasons.
The Community Shield, a full Premier League season, the final of the World Club Cup, the European Super Cup, the semi-final of the FA Cup, the semi-final of the League Cup, two semi-final matches and possibly a final in the Europa League and six Champions League games before they were dumped into the Europa League.
Apart from starting the Europa League from scratch instead of the Champions League, that's basically as long a season as it's possible to have isn't it?
Quite. And given they have a fair few internationals who played at Euro 2012 that's about four-six weeks free of competitive football between Aug 2011 - May '13.
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Chelsea look pretty tired to me mentally other than Man United in the FA Cup they been pretty poor recently ,very fortunate against Sunderland and in general performed poorly in the league against the lower placed teams.
Hopefully Lampard doesn't play that bugger always scores against us
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Chelsea look pretty tired to me mentally other than Man United in the FA Cup they been pretty poor recently ,very fortunate against Sunderland and in general performed poorly in the league against the lower placed teams.
An aggregate win over the two league matches this season would suit me just fine!
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Well they have Spurs 3 days before they play us, so hopefully they'll be physically and mentally exhausted.
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Well they have Spurs 3 days before they play us, so hopefully they'll be physically and mentally exhausted.
Hopefully they beat spurs and secure their top 4 slot that night and then play the Europa final the following midweek -
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Chelsea look pretty tired to me mentally other than Man United in the FA Cup they been pretty poor recently ,very fortunate against Sunderland and in general performed poorly in the league against the lower placed teams.
An aggregate win over the two league matches this season would suit me just fine!
We'll probably let one in at the death and lose on away goals
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Chelsea look pretty tired to me mentally other than Man United in the FA Cup they been pretty poor recently ,very fortunate against Sunderland and in general performed poorly in the league against the lower placed teams.
An aggregate win over the two league matches this season would suit me just fine!
We'll probably let one in at the death and lose on away goals
I'd take an 8-1 defeat.
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Well they have Spurs 3 days before they play us, so hopefully they'll be physically and mentally exhausted.
Won't the EUFA Cup final, if they get there, also be midweek after they play us?
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Well they have Spurs 3 days before they play us, so hopefully they'll be physically and mentally exhausted.
Won't the EUFA Cup final, if they get there, also be midweek after they play us?
Yep. 15th, I believe
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Well they have Spurs 3 days before they play us, so hopefully they'll be physically and mentally exhausted.
Won't the EUFA Cup final, if they get there, also be midweek after they play us?
Yep. 15th, I believe
It'll largely depend on how they're looking for staying in the top 4, but I can see Rafa playing a weakened side against us if they do get there.
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Getting confused. Is the game Saturday or Sunday ?
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Sat, 12.45.
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Cheers prefer that to the Sunday
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I prefer early Sat games to later Sun games
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I prefer early Sat games to later Sun games
She thought it was a snake
So she hit it with a rake
And now it's only six foot four?
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I prefer early Sat games to later Sun games
She thought it was a snake
So she hit it with a rake
And now it's only six foot four?
2 foot 4
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Sky >:(
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We really should be praying for chelsea to get to the final of the Europa league. Would be good if they can have a CL place wrapped up too. But that would be at the expense of spurs who we're relying in to beat Wigan and Sunderland.
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We really should be praying for chelsea to get to the final of the Europa league. Would be good if they can have a CL place wrapped up too. But that would be at the expense of spurs who we're relying in to beat Wigan and Sunderland.
"Confused? You won't be, after this week's episode of...Soap."
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I dont care if its moved to Christmas day, we owe them fuckers one.
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It will be my first ever father and son match with my 3 year old son. He's been to Villa Park before, but never to watch the game. I'm really looking forward to it. He's looking forward to the aeroplane!
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Thanks sky, dont mind them moving games, but a bit more notice than 3 weeks would be nice, cant get the day off now at that short notice..another game im likely to miss!
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Seems a strange decision moving our game to be the only league game on cup final day - it could also have an adverse effect on wigan if they find themselves relegated a couple of hours before the cup final kicks off.
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Seems a strange decision moving our game to be the only league game on cup final day - it could also have an adverse effect on wigan if they find themselves relegated a couple of hours before the cup final kicks off.
Is it on telly?
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I genuinely did not realise it is cup final day when we play Chelsea. I put that down to being totally distracted by our current situation.
Bloody hell, just how devalued is that cup that other football is played on the same day.
Regardless of who is playing, for some it is still a major event which loads of people want to see but there will be villa fans and Chelsea fans who will have to miss it or at a minimum, the build up to the match.
It's a bloody joke.
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We really should be praying for chelsea to get to the final of the Europa league. Would be good if they can have a CL place wrapped up too. But that would be at the expense of spurs who we're relying in to beat Wigan and Sunderland.
And Stoke.
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I genuinely did not realise it is cup final day when we play Chelsea. I put that down to being totally distracted by our current situation.
Bloody hell, just how devalued is that cup that other football is played on the same day.
Regardless of who is playing, for some it is still a major event which loads of people want to see but there will be villa fans and Chelsea fans who will have to miss it or at a minimum, the build up to the match.
It's a bloody joke.
Personally I don't giveaway monkeys about the cup final unless we're in it. The FA cup has long been devalued in my eyes.
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Well at least we will be all in the clear by the time others kick off.