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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on February 23, 2013, 08:42:41 PM
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Fulham DRAW
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea DRAW
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
40 points - relegated
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool WIN
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland DRAW
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
11 points 35 overall relegated
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I just wish we could go on a season ending run a la 1998 with nine wins in eleven (strangely the two defeats were against teams who went on to be relegated in Barnsley and Bolton).
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Fulham DRAW
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN
Thing is, that includes five wins, and if you count back our last five wins, that takes you back to a very long time ago.
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its going to the last weekend. I can smell it
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Aston Villa | v | Man City | | Lose | | 24 |
Reading | v | Aston Villa | | Win | | 27 |
Aston Villa | v | QPR | | Draw | | 28 |
Aston Villa | v | Liverpool | | Lose | | 28 |
Stoke | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 29 |
Aston Villa | v | Fulham | | Win | | 32 |
Man Utd | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 32 |
Aston Villa | v | Sunderland | | Win | | 35 |
Norwich | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 36 |
Aston Villa | v | Chelsea | | Lose | | 36 |
Wigan | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 36 |
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR DRAW
Aston Villa v Liverpool WIN
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham DRAW
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland DRAW
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea WIN
Wigan v Aston Villa DRAW
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa DRAW
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR DRAW
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland DRAW
Norwich v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Chelsea DRAW
Wigan v Aston Villa DRAW
39 points
Did this on BBC thingeee three games ago so all going to a plan of sorts so far
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Just two more defeats in the rest of the campaign?
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Aston Villa | v | Man City | | Lose | | 24 |
Reading | v | Aston Villa | | Win | | 27 |
Aston Villa | v | QPR | | Draw | | 28 |
Aston Villa | v | Liverpool | | Lose | | 28 |
Stoke | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 29 |
Aston Villa | v | Fulham | | Win | | 32 |
Man Utd | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 32 |
Aston Villa | v | Sunderland | | Win | | 35 |
Norwich | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 36 |
Aston Villa | v | Chelsea | | Lose | | 36 |
Wigan | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 36 |
That seems a very reasonable set of predictions and provides a points total that might keep us up or might send us down
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I get a good feeling when I look at those fixtures. And I'm not even drinking.
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
35 points 18th position
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I think we'd stay up with 6 points and the momentum generated from Reading and QPR but think 4 points is more realistic and needed as is 4 from Fulham and Sunderland.
Think we'd do better in the liverpool and City home games than most expect, don't think two draws or even another win v Liverpool is out of the question.
Have to be realistic though, that was a big win for Wigan today, it's going to the final day isn't it? Going to be horrible. :(
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Chelsea DRAW
Wigan v Aston Villa DRAW
Gives us 38 points, maybe enough, maybe not. A win rather than a draw against Wigan would probably do it.
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Wigan really turn it on against those around them, that's us and reading they have thrashed away. Apart from Reading have we beaten a fellow struggler? Just think those home games against wigan, saints and Newcastle will come back to haunt us.
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I really can't see us getting 38 points if we somehow lose at home to QPR (surely people must concede they're down in the position they're in?!) That really would be a death knell result to our season imo.
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Aston Villa v Man City Lose 24
Reading v Aston Villa Lose 24
Aston Villa v QPR Win 27
Aston Villa v Liverpool Lose 27
Stoke v Aston Villa Draw 28
Aston Villa v Fulham Win 31
Man Utd v Aston Villa Lose 31
Aston Villa v Sunderland Lose 31
Norwich v Aston Villa Draw 32
Aston Villa v Chelsea Lose 32
Wigan v Aston Villa Draw 33
33 points = relegated
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Let's be honest, losing today and only adding a -1 to our goal difference wasn't the worst result. Similar against City wouldn't be either. had anybody chalked down these two games as yielding points? We all thought that anything gained from these two games would be a bonus and in the grand scheme of things not getting a hammering is a decent result goal difference wise.
Beat Reading and QPR and we will be on course. If we're on 30 points going into the Liverpool game I think we will stay up, if we're on 29 points after the Liverpool game I think we would be in with a decent shout of staying up. If we're on 27 points after Liverpool at home I think it's bye bye top flight as I wouldn't back us to come out fighting against tough sides like Stoke and Wigan.
Funny enough, I am finding it less stressful this season. Last year toughened me up no end. This time last year it looked like we wouldn't win again (and wouldn't have but for Weimann's last minute winner against Fulham). However, this season I kind of fancy us to get a few more wins (coupled with a few TSM style ground out draws) and we probably would be ok. So long as we get to mid 30s we will be in with a chance of staying up so have to try to stay positive and with the young group of players. Last year was a bit different. It was hard to get behind the likes of Hutton, Warnock, Collins and Dunne as we nose-dived.
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Our end of season run in starts after Man City. Every game after that one gives us potential points. It all starts there...
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Let's be honest, losing today and only adding a -1 to our goal difference wasn't the worst result. Similar against City wouldn't be either. had anybody chalked down these two games as yielding points? We all thought that anything gained from these two games would be a bonus and in the grand scheme of things not getting a hammering is a decent result goal difference wise.
Beat Reading and QPR and we will be on course. If we're on 30 points going into the Liverpool game I think we will stay up, if we're on 29 points after the Liverpool game I think we would be in with a decent shout of staying up. If we're on 27 points after Liverpool at home I think it's bye bye top flight as I wouldn't back us to come out fighting against tough sides like Stoke and Wigan.
Funny enough, I am finding it less stressful this season. Last year toughened me up no end. This time last year it looked like we wouldn't win again (and wouldn't have but for Weimann's last minute winner against Fulham). However, this season I kind of fancy us to get a few more wins (coupled with a few TSM style ground out draws) and we probably would be ok. So long as we get to mid 30s we will be in with a chance of staying up so have to try to stay positive and with the young group of players. Last year was a bit different. It was hard to get behind the likes of Hutton, Warnock, Collins and Dunne as we nose-dived.
I don't see this side grinding out draws at all.
We might draw a few between now and the end of the season, but they'll most likely be games we've dominated, or led until the latter stages and thrown away.
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I think that's a fair point KG.
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN
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Aston Villa v Man City DRAW
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN
I'll have some of whatever you're drinking!
18 points from a possible 33 - that sort of form over the course of the season so far would put us 6th. Nothing I've seen of this team suggests they're remotely capable of that.
For what it's worth:
Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham DRAW
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland DRAW
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
I'd have us finishing on 31 points. The defeat to Wigan on the last day won't make any difference - just disappointing that Wigan, of all shitholes, will be our last sight of top flight football for a while!
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31 points? Not a chance. I'd be amazed if we only won one more game.
I'm taking our recent form to be from 46th minute onwards from the Newcastle game as the change in system at that point, putting Andi and Gabby out wide and Zog in the hole has given us far greater impetus. Defensively we're still shaky and therefore difficult to predict but i think our away form will save us. I tentatively proffer:
Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR DRAW
Aston Villa v Liverpool DRAW
Stoke v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland DRAW*
Norwich v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa DRAW
38 points and safety (probably at the expense of Wigan)
Also although Norwich's win today was a bit of a bummer as it stopped them being dragged into it, hopefully they'll go on a bit of a run now and be half-arsed (despite playing their old manager) by the time we meet.
Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised if we got something against Chelsea if they are assured of Champs League and have an eye on a Wafer/FA Cup Final.
*Martin O'Neill will be fined for giving the Holte "the wankers" at the end of the game after a last minute Gardner equaliser
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its going to the last weekend. I can smell it
I'd be inclined to take a winner takes all on the last day at Wigan at the moment. A lot of twists and turns between now and then though.
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its going to the last weekend. I can smell it
If it goes to the last day we will bottle it, they are mentally weak and wouldn't be able to cope with that pressure. Personally I think we will be down before that game anyway.
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These end of season fixtures give us the best possible chance. Home games v QPR, Fulham, Sunderland and away games at Reading, Norwich, Stoke & Wigan. Hells bells, if we can't muster the requisite points from those games and maybe a bonus point or two in the tougher fixtures (Man C & U, Liverpool & Chelsea) then the curtains deserve to be drawn on us.
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Aston Villa | v | Man City | | Lose | | 24 |
Reading | v | Aston Villa | | Win | | 27 |
Aston Villa | v | QPR | | Draw | | 28 |
Aston Villa | v | Liverpool | | Lose | | 28 |
Stoke | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 29 |
Aston Villa | v | Fulham | | Win | | 32 |
Man Utd | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 32 |
Aston Villa | v | Sunderland | | Win | | 35 |
Norwich | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 36 |
Aston Villa | v | Chelsea | | Lose | | 36 |
Wigan | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 36 |
That seems a very reasonable set of predictions and provides a points total that might keep us up or might send us down
At the moment I would say there is more than 50 per cent chance that we will finish 17th or 18th. Sadly, I think the most likely scenario is 18th, as you would have to be quite optimistic to believe that we will have a better run-in than Wigan. There's of an outside chance that Southampton will get involved, but so far they've looked to good to be relegated. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Newcastle, and in that case Newcastle would be our best hope of an outsider.
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what do our fellow strugglers' remaining fixtures look like? hopefully not as kind as ours
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Wish I hadn't looked up Wigan's remaining games. They should finish mid-table with this friendly trot to the summer beach -
Home
Liverpool
Newcastle
Norwich
Swansea
Spurs
Villa
Away
QPR
West Ham
West Brom
Arsenal
and that's only 10, there's a missing fixture somewhere for some reason.
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Reading on the other hand are doomed -
Home
Villa
Southampton
Liverpool
QPR
Man City
Away
Everton
Man Utd
Arsenal
Norwich
Fulham
West Ham
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
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Aston Villa v Man City Lose 24
Reading v Aston Villa Win 27
Aston Villa v QPR Lose 27
Aston Villa v Liverpool Lose 27
Stoke v Aston Villa Draw 28
Aston Villa v Fulham Win 31
Man Utd v Aston Villa Lose 31
Aston Villa v Sunderland Draw 32
Norwich v Aston Villa Draw 33
Aston Villa v Chelsea Lose 33
Wigan v Aston Villa Lose 33
I can't see any way the team will improve enough to stay up - as promising as our attacking options are they can't compensate for the dreadful defence or Lambert's overall ineptitude.
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I make that 33 if we draw against Norwich.
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For me it's one game at a time.
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For me it's one game at a time.
Absolutely agree clamps!
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I make that 33 if we draw against Norwich.
Oops! Quite right.
Still crap, though :-(
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
Nurse, fetch the bedpan
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I protest. There's already a finely crafted thread about this.
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Aston Villa | v | Man City | | Lose | | 24 |
Reading | v | Aston Villa | | Win | | 27 |
Aston Villa | v | QPR | | Draw | | 28 |
Aston Villa | v | Liverpool | | Lose | | 28 |
Stoke | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 29 |
Aston Villa | v | Fulham | | Win | | 32 |
Man Utd | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 32 |
Aston Villa | v | Sunderland | | Win | | 35 |
Norwich | v | Aston Villa | | Draw | | 36 |
Aston Villa | v | Chelsea | | Lose | | 36 |
Wigan | v | Aston Villa | | Lose | | 36 |
I agree with all those predictions up until the last 3 games when I think/hope/pray we'll get more than a point. Chelsea could be beatable if top 4 is sewn up and they have a Cup Final to worry about.
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
`Kin`ell!, and i thought i was a pessimist!! :)
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
`Kin`ell, and i thought i was a pessimist!!...
We'll have to step it up a bit to get those results
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I think we'll lose to both Manc clubs and get points from every other game.
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I think we'll lose to both Manc clubs and get points from every other game.
I like your spunk, little guy.
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do you mean every other game or every other game? We need to know. And do you mean points (plural) from every other game or a solitary point from every other game? This is fundamental in terms of the grand total we could expect at season's end and whether it'd be sufficient to save us from the trap door. I know it's a Sunday but your shoddiness is quite frankly breathtaking.
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
I think Malcolm just P'd himself.
I don't do predictions; so here's my take on it:
Aston Villa v Man City L
Reading v Aston Villa D
Aston Villa v QPR W
Aston Villa v Liverpool D
Stoke v Aston Villa D
Aston Villa v Fulham W
Man Utd v Aston Villa L
Aston Villa v Sunderland D
Norwich v Aston Villa D
Aston Villa v Chelsea D
Wigan v Aston Villa L
This gets us to 36; which should mean we avoid 19th and 20th but may not be enough for 17th spot in the P'ship.
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Yeah my predictions are pretty similar to that, 36 points would give us a pretty good chance of staying up I think.
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa LOSE
Clearly a tongue in cheek there but just as probable as staying up.
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
Wigan- Liverpool- D
Wigan-Newcastle- D
Wigan- Norwich- W
QPR- Wigan- D
Wigan- Swansea- D
West Ham- Wigan- L
Wigan- Spurs- L
WBA- Wigan- D
Man. City- Wigan- L
Arsenal- Wigan- L
Wigan- Us- Win
Would leave them on 35 points even after beating us. Nasty feeling Wigan playing West Brom late in the season though....
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
Wigan- Liverpool- D
Wigan-Newcastle- D
Wigan- Norwich- W
QPR- Wigan- D
Wigan- Swansea- D
West Ham- Wigan- L
Wigan- Spurs- L
WBA- Wigan- D
Man. City- Wigan- L
Arsenal- Wigan- L
Wigan- Us- Win
Would leave them on 35 points even after beating us. Nasty feeling Wigan playing West Brom late in the season though....
West Brom kept us up last year by beating Bolton - I can't see them doing us a favour two years running.
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I fucking hate West Brom. Just saying, loike
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Aston Villa v Man City Drawing until the 87th minute then LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa Drawing until the 88th minute then LOSE
Aston Villa v QPR Winning until the 82nd minute, drawing until the 89th minute then LOSE
Aston Villa v Liverpool Drawing until the 90+3rd minute then LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa Drawing until the 87th minute then LOSE
Aston Villa v Fulham Drawing until the 87th minute then LOSE
Man Utd v Aston Villa Drawing until the 90th minute then LOSE by 3 goals
Aston Villa v Sunderland Drawing until the 89th minute then LOSE
Norwich v Aston Villa Drawing until the 80th minute then LOSE
Aston Villa v Chelsea Drawing until the 90+5th minute then LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa WIN but it's too feckin' late.
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I'm really vibin' off the positive energy in this thread. It's like a sparkling MDMA rainbow of optimism.
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Still think we'll do it. The performance if not the result at arsenal was encouraging. I think we've got enough to pull clear of reading, qpr and Wigan. It won't be comfortable though.
The 5 min or so, spell we had after the equaliser I thought we might just get the winner. Sickening result but wasn't our day.
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I have just dug my little enough points sticky note out of my desk. It has one tick next to West Ham for an expected three points and a nice little mark in the unexpected points column for Everton.
I have us down for 7 points from the next four games. The critical two are Reading and QPR. If we can win the former, then I think it will be curtains for Reading and consequently, by winning the later QPR will be down too. The point comes at home to Liverpool.
I think though that a point at Reading would be a good one though.
I have us down for 41, but then I think SHQ is right, 36 will be enough.
If we can beat Reading, QPR, Sunderland and Fulham then we will go to Wigan with nothing to play for but the chance of sending them down.
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
But if 36 puts us down on goal difference then we only need 37 surely?
Logic innit!
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
But if 36 puts us down on goal difference then we only need 37 surely?
Logic innit!
If you offered me end of season now at 37 i would not take it , i think we need 38 or 39 .
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Wouldn't be lovely to be sitting about 11th wondering if we could get enough points from the remaining games to make a late push for a place in Europe.
Those were the days.
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
But if 36 puts us down on goal difference then we only need 37 surely?
Logic innit!
If you offered me end of season now at 37 i would not take it , i think we need 38 or 39 .
37 will do it, IMO
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Did it on BBC.
36 points, 16th position above West Ham in 17th ;D
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Reading and Wigan you can see continuing to pick up points, so even if they manage an average of 1 point a game which is no great shakes, its going to be around the 35-6 mark. We really need one of them to go completely to pot now they've played each other. Or Southampton/Sunderland mebbe. ATM its 6 from 6 i reckon because i can't see those teams on 30 points not getting at least another 6 points till the end of the season.
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Reading and Wigan you can see continuing to pick up points, so even if they manage an average of 1 point a game which is no great shakes, its going to be around the 35-6 mark. We really need one of them to go completely to pot now they've played each other. Or Southampton/Sunderland mebbe. ATM its 6 from 6 i reckon because i can't see those teams on 30 points not getting at least another 6 points till the end of the season.
Please let it be Sunderland.
Can you imagine the joy that staying up at the expense of them would bring? It would almost make it all worthwhile.
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Reading and Wigan you can see continuing to pick up points, so even if they manage an average of 1 point a game which is no great shakes, its going to be around the 35-6 mark. We really need one of them to go completely to pot now they've played each other. Or Southampton/Sunderland mebbe. ATM its 6 from 6 i reckon because i can't see those teams on 30 points not getting at least another 6 points till the end of the season.
Please let it be Sunderland.
Can you imagine the joy that staying up at the expense of them would bring? It would almost make it all worthwhile.
well its possible. Only takes us or our rivals to pick up a few more points than we're expecting and some of those on the 32 point mark could be dragged into the danger zone again.
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With our goal difference 36 wouldn't save us I don't think. We need at least 39.
But if 36 puts us down on goal difference then we only need 37 surely?
Logic innit!
If you offered me end of season now at 37 i would not take it , i think we need 38 or 39 .
I would probably take 37 points now if it was being offered based upon our average of 0.9 points per game this season. Just cannot see us improving upon that.
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Aston Villa v Man City Lose
Reading v Aston Villa Draw
Aston Villa v QPR Win
Aston Villa v Liverpool Lose
Stoke v Aston Villa Lose
Aston Villa v Fulham Win
Man Utd v Aston Villa Lose
Aston Villa v Sunderland Draw
Norwich v Aston Villa Draw
Aston Villa v Chelsea Lose
Wigan v Aston Villa Win
36 pts and a possibility of survival IF we can win at Wigan. As mentioned earlier, it could be a horrible last day and I fear that our goal difference could end up costing us very dearly. Surprise teams to get dragged in to the mix, Fulham & West Ham?
Final table?
Sunderland 39pts -10 gd
Norwich 39 -22
Villa 36 -33
Fulham 35 -14
West Ham 35 -19
Reading 33 -23
Wigan 30 -26
QPR 30 -29
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I don't care who goes down as long as it's not us.
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I don't care who goes down as long as it's not us.
Exactly clamps- as long as we survive who cares about the rest.
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Aston Villa v Man City - WIN
Reading v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool - WIN
Stoke v Aston Villa WIN
Aston Villa v Fulham WIN
Man Utd v Aston Villa - WIN
Aston Villa v Sunderland - WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa - WIN
Aston Villa v Chelsea - WIN
Wigan v Aston Villa - LOSE, booed off, calls for Manager's head and H&V goes into meltdown.
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Just done the BBC predictor thingy. Big mistake. I tried to be as objective as I could but got us going down with 33 points along with Reading and QPR. Worse still, we were level on points with West Ham but with worse goal diff.
I have a gut feeling that this could be how it works out but maybe my subconscious got the better of me.
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We will stay up on 42 points.
We will beat Sunderland, Fulham and QPR at home, while drawing with Liverpool. As to the away games, we will beat Reading, Wigan and draw at Norwich and Stoke.
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I do worry about our rivals playing Swansea now mind. They will be on the beach already.
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The double header of Reading and QPR is absolutely key. Win both and we'll be on 30 points, and will have put a few nails in their coffins. QPR would be all but down.
You'd fancy us to do okay against Fulham and Sunderland on our own turf. Of course there's no garauntees with our lot.
That said we could easily lose every game left.
I think we'll end up on 35-37 points. Whether that's enough remains to be seen. Southampton haven't looked terrible of late. Wigan have proven capable in the past of putting a good run in, and as bad as Sunderland and Newcastle have been this season at times, I don't see them getting pulled into it again.
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I've been saying for a while it should be one game at a time from now on but i can't help wanting to get the Man City game out the way so we can play Reading and QPR.
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I've been saying for a while it should be one game at a time from now on but i can't help wanting to get the Man City game out the way so we can play Reading and QPR.
Yes , those two games are huge on the horizon - what i would give to win the next 3 games!
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I've been saying for a while it should be one game at a time from now on but i can't help wanting to get the Man City game out the way so we can play Reading and QPR.
Yes , those two games are huge on the horizon - what i would give to win the next 3 games!
MY HOUSE, MY GIRLFRIEND, MY FREEDOM AND MY LIFE AND THEN SOME. UTV.
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I've been saying for a while it should be one game at a time from now on but i can't help wanting to get the Man City game out the way so we can play Reading and QPR.
Yes , those two games are huge on the horizon - what i would give to win the next 3 games!
MY HOUSE, MY GIRLFRIEND, MY FREEDOM AND MY LIFE AND THEN SOME. UTV.
Not the car, then.
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I think Norwich is our chance of that elusive away win which we've been close to since the new year. Yeah there's the Lambert factor but we battered them in the cup and they'll probably be in mid table and on the beach.
Just getting one away win and two draws would be huge as I think then we'd only need two wins from our home games (QPR and Fulham) and a couple of draws to be o.k.
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do you mean every other game or every other game? We need to know. And do you mean points (plural) from every other game or a solitary point from every other game? This is fundamental in terms of the grand total we could expect at season's end and whether it'd be sufficient to save us from the trap door. I know it's a Sunday but your shoddiness is quite frankly breathtaking.
not another trainspotter
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Anything less than 4 points from Reading and QPR and we'll be enjoying pre match pints at that shithole Wetherspoons on Blackpool front before you know it.
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
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Anything less than 4 points from Reading and QPR and we'll be enjoying pre match pints at that shithole Wetherspoons on Blackpool front before you know it.
Not while The Pump and Truncheon or The Taps is still open I won't.
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If you go by form (lose to the better sides, draw with the middling sides if at home/lose away and beat the poor sides at home/draw away) here's what you get:-
Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa Draw
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool Draw
Stoke v Aston Villa Lose
Aston Villa v Fulham DRAW
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa Draw
That gives you 35 points, which I don't think will be enough. I think we need to turn those draws with Reading and Fulham into wins to have a chance!.
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I've been saying for a while it should be one game at a time from now on but i can't help wanting to get the Man City game out the way so we can play Reading and QPR.
Yes , those two games are huge on the horizon - what i would give to win the next 3 games!
MY HOUSE, MY GIRLFRIEND, MY FREEDOM AND MY LIFE AND THEN SOME. UTV.
Not the car, then.
Forgot the car, and the remote control for the telly !!
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I think wins against Reading,QPR, Fulham, Sunderland and then draws against Liverpool, Stoke, Norwich and Wigan would do nicely. Obviously that means we'd only lose 3 games which is unlikely, so we may need to win one of those games I have marked down to draw.
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Im in a very good mood now - just got a lovely tracksuit off andy blair for a tenner - i feel very happy so i see us winning our last 11 games and finishing in the top 10! ;D
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At the moment it is ourselves, QPR, Reading, Wigan are Southampton in the battle in my opinion. I was hoping an Everton win last weekend would throw Norwich into the equation. Tough games for Reading and Wigan this weekend, although I am concerned Wigan may get three points. The question is do we want Southampton to put another nail in the QPR coffin, QPR to drag Southampton right into trouble or both to drop two points? (The latter for me). As for us we need to get six points against Reading and QPR and things will looks a lot brighter.
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West Ham have two tough games coming up. If we get 3 points out of our next two and they lose both, they're in the shit as well.
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
I'm rather looking forward to my day out in Brighton though. A nice stroll around the Lanes and a bijoux little lunch of the vegetarian variety before heading out to the stadium which has a lovely setting. And all a 40 minute train ride from me..
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
I'm rather looking forward to my day out in Brighton though. A nice stroll around the Lanes and a bijoux little lunch of the vegetarian variety before heading out to the stadium which has a lovely setting. And all a 40 minute train ride from me..
Will sir be attending an exotic all-male discotheque after dinner and drinks?
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
I'm rather looking forward to my day out in Brighton though. A nice stroll around the Lanes and a bijoux little lunch of the vegetarian variety before heading out to the stadium which has a lovely setting. And all a 40 minute train ride from me..
Will sir be attending an exotic all-male discotheque after dinner and drinks?
Ooh, if sir says so, yes please!
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I was told a few years back by a Blackpool hotel owner that it had overtaken Brighton as the gay capital of the country. Maybe I should be asking myself why he thought I would be interested in that little nugget of information.
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I was told a few years back by a Blackpool hotel owner that it had overtaken Brighton as the gay capital of the country. Maybe I should be asking myself why he thought I would be interested in that little nugget of information.
Were you wearing that really tight t-shirt that shows your belly-button?
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On average, teams that managed to avoid premiership relegation (placed 17 in the league) managed to produce 38.6 points. But there have been seasons (2004/05) when 34 points were enough, as well as seasons (2002/03) when teams needed 44 to play another season of Premiership football.
On average, 36 points was not enough to avoid the drop.
The spread of lowest points culminating in relegation is 34 at the bottom, to 44. This season looks like being a low-points sort of season so where is the cut-off likely to be, do you think? - 35, 36, 38, 40?
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Hard to tell, reading looked dead and buried and then won 3 in 4 beating albion, newcastle , sunderland and drawing with chelsea- thats something er must do, back to back wins would be a huge lift.
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I've got us beating Reading, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland and drawing at Stoke and Norwich. This would give us 38 pts and I think, just about keep us up. I do think it is key winning four games from somewhere to get us to minimum 36 and then hope we can maybe even pick up 4 draws.
Going to be tight whatever !!!
UTV
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I was told a few years back by a Blackpool hotel owner that it had overtaken Brighton as the gay capital of the country. Maybe I should be asking myself why he thought I would be interested in that little nugget of information.
Were you wearing that really tight t-shirt that shows your belly-button?
A few years back, after attending a couple of fancy dress parties as first the biker from the Village People and then Freddie Mercury, a mate of mine suggested this looked 'a bit dodgy'. When I informed him my next fancy dress appearance was as the iconic ladies man figure that Richard Gere portrayed in An Officer And A Gentleman his response was, "So your basically going as a sailor. That'll show everybody!".
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I've got us beating Reading, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland and drawing at Stoke and Norwich. This would give us 38 pts and I think, just about keep us up. I do think it is key winning four games from somewhere to get us to minimum 36 and then hope we can maybe even pick up 4 draws.
Going to be tight whatever !!!
UTV
Squeeeeky tight!
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Aston Villa v Man City LOSE
Reading v Aston Villa Draw
Aston Villa v QPR WIN
Aston Villa v Liverpool LOSE
Stoke v Aston Villa Draw
Aston Villa v Fulham Win
Man Utd v Aston Villa LOSE
Aston Villa v Sunderland WIN
Norwich v Aston Villa DRAW
Aston Villa v Chelsea LOSE
Wigan v Aston Villa Draw
13 more points taking us to 37 . Hopefully that will see us safe?
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
I'm rather looking forward to my day out in Brighton though. A nice stroll around the Lanes and a bijoux little lunch of the vegetarian variety before heading out to the stadium which has a lovely setting. And all a 40 minute train ride from me..
I reckon Brighton will go up through the play offs Rich!
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What worries me is that all these so called winnable games have gone spectacularly tits up so far this season. I'd say a draw at home to Man City is more realistic than winning at Reading. As for QPR, I can see a massive shooting in own foot scenario. For details, see Bolton, last season.
Despite that, I can still see us in with a shout by the time the Wigan game comes round.
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West Ham went to plan.
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I reckon we will win 3 straight at some point between now and the end, and pick up up 5 wins in total. And I think 40 will be needed to stay up.
I'm rather looking forward to my day out in Brighton though. A nice stroll around the Lanes and a bijoux little lunch of the vegetarian variety before heading out to the stadium which has a lovely setting. And all a 40 minute train ride from me..
I reckon Brighton will go up through the play offs Rich!
Yes, just my luck Soccer, if Palace and Brighton both go up, not sure where my nearest game will be. Probably Reading if they come down with us..
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Swindon again!