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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: NiiLamptey on January 23, 2013, 08:53:50 AM
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If the board dont back Lambert he has to go... but if he does who do you want to replace him?
please state who if you choose "Villa Legend" or "Other":
Here is a list of current available managers...
http://www.thesackrace.com/job-centre
Note: Can only fit 5 options so went for what I thought would favourite top 3, "Villa Legend" or "Other"...
Edit: If you think lambert should stay dont bother voting or voicing here... this is being dealt with in the Lambert In or Out thread.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48667.0 (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48667.0)
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Got to be Zola for me, will work wonders with our kids and give us all the boost we need to get the confidence back!
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Can we get the balloon with a smiley face on a piece if string back ?
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Poyet
If not Poyet. Anybody
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Watching Deano last night & it's clear he has a lot of love for us, bet he regrets taking the Wolves job so soon.
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After the most pathetic month ever I think it's time for Lambert to clear his desk and leave.
Nigel Adkins.
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He hasn't gone, doesn't look like going, so why the Poll.
And to be honest none of the above
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He hasn't gone, doesn't look like going, so why the Poll.
READ: Edit: If you think lambert should stay dont bother voting or voicing here... this is being dealt with in the Lambert In or Out thread.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48667.0
And to be honest none of the above
So other does not cover who you would want?
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Neil Lennon?
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I honestly can't think of anyone who would take on this job at the moment.
I would like to see Paolo di Canio bring some of his emotion to the club....and kicking a few backsides
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I like the idea of Di Canio or Zola
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Watching Deano last night & it's clear he has a lot of love for us, bet he regrets taking the Wolves job so soon.
Yeah, he would've been obvious choice IMO. Maybe Adkins is second best choice...even Hughes would be better than Lambo.
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Gus Poyet.
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Whoever you choose odds are you will be calling for his sacking by Xmas.
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If Poyet is the popular vote, is there a way i can drop say zola or RDM form the list and replace with Poyet?
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Whoever you choose odds are you will be calling for his sacking by Xmas.
If Lerner keeps making a mess of things? Probably
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Whoever you choose odds are you will be calling for his sacking by Xmas.
I am very sure we will if the new guy delivers the following:
West Ham 1-0 Aston Villa
Aston Villa 1-3 Everton
Southampton 4-1 Aston Villa
Tottenham 2-0 Aston Villa
Fulham 1-0 Aston Villa
Aston Villa 2-3 Man Utd
Man City 5-0 Aston Villa
Chelsea 8-0 Aston Villa
Aston Villa 0-4 Tottenham
Aston Villa 0-3 Wigan
Bradford 3-1 Aston Villa
Aston Villa 0-1 Southampton
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Whoever you choose odds are you will be calling for his sacking by Xmas.
If Lerner keeps making a mess of things? Probably
Yes. True. Because LErner will probably be his usual inept self and appoint someone who again fails.
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Doesn't really matter while Randy is still at the helm. He has been slowly sucking the life out of the club for the past 3 years and doesn't look like he knows or wants to do anything about it.
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I dont think lerner is a bad chairman, put a lot of money and investment into the club, its the managerial appointment that seem to have been completely wrong...
Lerner was a fan favourite as he seemed to split opinion... however on the last day of the season we were singing PL's claret and blue army so maybe that is the indicator randy uses to appoint?
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7 votes for Villa legend... which villa legends do you want back?
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Southgate? Legend? Hahahahahahaha
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Poyet. Probably. Maybe.
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A manager who has tactical awareness would be a start.
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I wouldn't choose any of the above. None of them will be able to deal with the mess we are in, they wouldn't have the experience necessary. We need someone with experience. We need someone with experience to help choose our next manager. Get Graham Taylor in to help with choosing the candidates.
I don't want to loose Lambert yet, but if we don't turn it around very soon this club is heading to the Championship. The players need to learn that there is a second half to every match and playing well in fits and starts is killing us.
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I wouldn't choose any of the above. None of them will be able to deal with the mess we are in, they wouldn't have the experience necessary. We need someone with experience. We need someone with experience to help choose our next manager. Get Graham Taylor in to help with choosing the candidates.
I don't want to loose Lambert yet, but if we don't turn it around very soon this club is heading to the Championship. The players need to learn that there is a second half to every match and playing well in fits and starts is killing us.
Lol is graham taylor not a villa legend?
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Graham Taylor, no questions asked.
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Also, none of the above would take the job if they had any sense.
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I wouldn't choose any of the above. None of them will be able to deal with the mess we are in, they wouldn't have the experience necessary. We need someone with experience. We need someone with experience to help choose our next manager. Get Graham Taylor in to help with choosing the candidates.
I don't want to loose Lambert yet, but if we don't turn it around very soon this club is heading to the Championship. The players need to learn that there is a second half to every match and playing well in fits and starts is killing us.
Lol is graham taylor not a villa legend?
He is, but I wouldn't want him managing us and I wouldn't reckon he'd want to manage us at this stage in his life.
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Our problems are fundamental and go beyond new managers.
If the Invisible man sacks Lambert we will be back to square one within a year (that's if we stay up).
Oh, and if he did sack Lambert you can be sure it will be after the transfer window closes and it will be somebody who will need to get to know the players (right at the time we need to be scrapping for points), and it will be somebody unsuited to a championship promotion race should the worst happen.
I have zero confidence in the regime running avfc.
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I wouldn't choose any of the above. None of them will be able to deal with the mess we are in, they wouldn't have the experience necessary. We need someone with experience. We need someone with experience to help choose our next manager. Get Graham Taylor in to help with choosing the candidates.
I don't want to loose Lambert yet, but if we don't turn it around very soon this club is heading to the Championship. The players need to learn that there is a second half to every match and playing well in fits and starts is killing us.
Lol is graham taylor not a villa legend?
He is, but I wouldn't want him managing us and I wouldn't reckon he'd want to manage us at this stage in his life.
Sorry misread... not a bad shout, but think it would be wiser to use him in a DOF capacity... maybe bring him in and leave lambert in place?
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It doesn't matter who our manager is. We will go down unless we sign a proper midfielder and at least one experienced defender.
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Lambert isnt going he has said so. Lerner will not sack him because once again that will cost him dearly.
Lambert will not be making signings because he has no money available and even if that is not true what players of the standard we require
would want to come to a club that is in freefall?. Even loan players want to win games.
Lerner might want to sell the club and the process of doing that takes months so outgoings will be minimal.
Say it was your money would you want to give Lambert any of it. Christ he would probably sign Beckhams son....the younger one!.
We are stuck with him Im afraid.....and it is very likely we will go down.
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It doesn't matter who our manager is. We will go down unless we sign a proper midfielder and at least one experienced defender.
I dont believe this.. lambert looks out of his depth and desperate on the sidelines.. how must that affect the team? Even with the players we have we should not go down, think he has lost the dressing room.
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Lambert isnt going he has said so. Lerner will not sack him because once again that will cost him dearly.
Lambert will not be making signings because he has no money available and even if that is not true what players of the standard we require
would want to come to a club that is in freefall?. Even loan players want to win games.
Lerner might want to sell the club and the process of doing that takes months so outgoings will be minimal.
Say it was your money would you want to give Lambert any of it. Christ he would probably sign Beckhams son....the younger one!.
We are stuck with him Im afraid.....and it is very likely we will go down.
Absolutely!
If I had a broken iphone 5 that needed 50notes spending on a screen to get 300 notes for it instead of 100notes I would invest without a doubt
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Adkins is available and has very recent experience working with a tight budget, and seemed popular with both fans and players. I'm sure he'd do a better job than PL and I personally like him better. Unlike most other options he'd probably appreciate the job and the club would be a step up for him too. If he could keep us up he'd be hailed a miracle worker, if he couldn't then no-one could complain, so he'd have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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Re Adkins - his record is very similar to lambert - successive promotions with an unfashionable team etc. Why would he be any better than lambert? Be another risky appointment we cant afford to make. This is a massive job now.
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Re Adkins - his record is very similar to lambert - successive promotions with an unfashionable team etc. Why would he be any better than lambert? Be another risky appointment we cant afford to make. This is a massive job now.
Maybe so, but he was doing a better job at Saints than Lambert is with us, and I think he'd have kept them up. Why they sacked him is one of the most baffling events of this season. The attraction for Lerner would be he'd have to pay nothing to get him, and as such I see him as the only viable option.
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Ofcourse the one big problem would be attracting the right type of Manager that we need. I just don't see an SGT's riding in on their white charger - we are not seen as a big fish anymore.
Thanks largely to Lerners and Faulkners inept handling of pretty much everything they've blundered into over the last 3 years, VP is more seen as a graveyard for Managers careers as opposed to the making of them.
Taking my Villa fans hat off for a minute, I know if I was an ambitious Manager I wouldn't want the job.
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I think I would go for Curbishley as I would have confidence in his ability to give us a fighting chance of coming back up next season.
Don't think we will see Lambert go though.
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Best man for the job would likely be the current Norwich manager Chris Hughton - maybe we could swap!
Hughton has a track record of taking on basket cases and making them work with little or no finance. He worked wonders at Newcastle working with the only owner around that is possibly more inept than Lerner.
Failing that, then we need someone else that has experience of turning around failing teams. GT did it for us once before. Gregory could maybe still do a job.
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I think giving someone a big 6 month contract is worth a punt and most would take it as nothing to lose
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I think Zola for me.
Lambchop looked clueless and bewildered as HIS players following HIS instructions couldnt beat a 4th division team over 2 legs.
I want him replaced ASAP and Randy to basically preserve our top flight status by opening his chequebook (again) for this new manager. Bring in some quality players that the name of Zola would attract and pay big wages in order to get us out of this mess.
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Why would changing the manager make a difference?
We wanted Lambert because of the way he got an Average side into the premieship playing decent football and competing against big clubs.
His ethos hasn't changed suddenly but when you get rid of a load of players you cannot replace them with the amount of money we did without something of a disruption.
If that's the way Learner wants to do it fair enough but he needs to do it gradually rather than in one season.
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A new manager might be able to coach players how to defend a corner.
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Appoint another manager without Randy putting his hand in his pocket in a year we have the same result. if it has to be anyone then Poyet maybe?
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the tipping point may well have come now for Lambert, but if we replace him with RDM i would feel devastated, as bad as when we got TSM (well nearly)
if we make a change, fine, but all this anyone will do because he's bound to be better than Lambert is a load of bollocks, we need the right man not more of the same
i'd much rather Curbs than RDM
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In reality I suspect PL won't be going anywhere.
However, if he did go, I would not touch Adkins as it would be PL scenario all over again.
Premier league experience
Premier league experience
Premier league experience
Premier league experience
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A new manager might be able to coach players how to defend a corner.
Tony Pullis then ?
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Sir Brian Little,
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I can see Lambert being sacked after the transfer window is shut. That's how incompetent I see the board as being
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I would stick with Lambert but it is getting harder and harder to defend him. I honestly don't care about Friday night but the Newcastle game is massive given both clubs positions and coming so soon after Wigan and Southampton. Unfortunately the times of SGT and BFR have come and gone. The likes of Adkins, Poyet, Zola and Di Canio would be gambles. Curbishley is a decent manager who has been held back by his lack of personality but has been out of the game for a while. In hindsight if we were going to make a change the best bet may have been Deano at the start of the transfer window.
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By time we play Newcastle they will have brought half a team.I can not see us getting anything from that game
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Going through the candidates I don't think there is anybody that will really get us excited.
RDM - Meh. Did a decent enough job at the Boggies and obviously did well to win two cups with Chelski. Would probably organise us and make us harder to beat. Which is an improvement of some sorts.
Adkins - Not keen on him. Just similar CV to Lambert. Two successive promotions, no top-flight experience. No reason to suggest he wouldn't replicate PL and get found out here.
Hughes - Damaged alot of his credibility at QPR where he just bought any mercenary has-been he could find, none of whom could be arsed to play for him. Did do well in previous jobs though.
Zola - Has project at Watford. Don't see him leaving any time soon.
Poyet - Doing good job at Brighton but I wouldn't say he is doing exceptionally well.
GT - Weren't far off relegation last time with him. Would he really do any better now?
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Hughes for me. As long as he stopped buying mercenaries. Saying that he wouldn't be able to at Villa.
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I think Lerner likes Hughes.
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Southgate? Legend? Hahahahahahaha
Better than Lee Hendrie announced as a legend last night pitch side
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Can't believe how many people are suggesting names on the basis they are "Villa legends"
We could maybe complete our transition into Newcastle of three years ago, then, just like when they appointed one of their legends. That worked out well, didn't it.
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cant believe anyone is saying Hughes
the only manager who has spent more money and produced a team even worse than ours
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After the experience of the last three managers we would be scraping the barrel when looking for our next manager. We really are good at turning decent managers into quivering wrecks - its a poisoned chalice
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After the experience of the last three managers we would be scraping the barrel when looking for our next manager. We really are good at turning decent managers into quivering wrecks - its a poisoned chalice
We will end up with someone like Gary Megson or Lennie Lawrence. That will be the extent of our pulling power.
Martinez dodged a couple of dambuster bombs when he turned us down / avoided us.
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Dave Jones.
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I can see Lambert being sacked after the transfer window is shut. That's how incompetent I see the board as being
He'll be used as a scapegoat for the boards shortcomings. I feel sorry for Lambert
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Oh Deano
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Re Adkins - his record is very similar to lambert - successive promotions with an unfashionable team etc. Why would he be any better than lambert? Be another risky appointment we cant afford to make. This is a massive job now.
soton's football has looked so much better than ours.
I would not mind Poyet , not be against Zola , fine job at watford and I rate Nigel Pearson , he will be England manager one day .
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Can't believe how many people are suggesting names on the basis they are "Villa legends"
We could maybe complete our transition into Newcastle of three years ago, then, just like when they appointed one of their legends. That worked out well, didn't it.
That always annoys me as well, Just because a player played well for a club or put his heart and soul into a club doesnt mean he has any idea of how to manage a Club. In fact as you pointed out it often has the opposite effect.
Im surprised no one has mentioned Taylor or Collymore yet.....
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wish he had gone for laudrup . mouth waters .
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I really have no idea what to say or think about the team or manager. Maybe I'm a Randy Lerner clone?
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Having defended Lambert all season I can only say that I think he was very foolish to freeze Bent out. Whatever happened behind the scenes, he froze out the one genuine 'star' player we had. Benteke and Weimann have delivered the goods but the decision to so publicly drop and humiliate Bent is what could define Lambert's time at villa (if he doesn't last).
It was a huge call and it caused no end of publicity.
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I dont want anyone in the villa legends camp to be fair.. if only to not become newcastle MK II
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Got to be Zola for me, will work wonders with our kids and give us all the boost we need to get the confidence back!
Where on earth is the evidence that he will work wonders with the kids? Bringing in Zola would not give me a boost - Lambert has achieved far more as a manager.
Getting rid of Lambert would be, in my opinion, sheer lunacy. It sends out all the wrong messages about our club. We need to keep calm, see the bigger picture and back our man.
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Got to be Zola for me, will work wonders with our kids and give us all the boost we need to get the confidence back!
Where on earth is the evidence that he will work wonders with the kids? Bringing in Zola would not give me a boost - Lambert has achieved far more as a manager.
Getting rid of Lambert would be, in my opinion, sheer lunacy. It sends out all the wrong messages about our club. We need to keep calm, see the bigger picture and back our man.
i've been saying this all along,
but unfortunatly it just keeps getting worse and worserer
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According to the bookies Victor Chandler it looks like a 2 horse race, good value on Adkins though
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According to the bookies Victor Chandler it looks like a 2 horse race, good value on Adkins though
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Having defended Lambert all season I can only say that I think he was very foolish to freeze Bent out. Whatever happened behind the scenes, he froze out the one genuine 'star' player we had. Benteke and Weimann have delivered the goods but the decision to so publicly drop and humiliate Bent is what could define Lambert's time at villa (if he doesn't last).
It was a huge call and it caused no end of publicity.
agree . We was not exactly scoring any goals at the time neither.
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If Lerner sacks Lambert (a stupid thing to do) then I would say Dean Saunders (make him available - Ellis style)
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Got to be Zola for me, will work wonders with our kids and give us all the boost we need to get the confidence back!
Where on earth is the evidence that he will work wonders with the kids? Bringing in Zola would not give me a boost - Lambert has achieved far more as a manager.
Getting rid of Lambert would be, in my opinion, sheer lunacy. It sends out all the wrong messages about our club. We need to keep calm, see the bigger picture and back our man.
The 'bigger picture' is that Lambert will relegate us, the club will end up in financial turmoil, and what decent players we do have like Weimann and Benteke will be snapped up by Premier League teams. We'll b lft with greatly reduced income whilst in the Premier League earn a huge amount more. Our good young players will leave, and we'll be left with the likes of Given, Hutton and Irland on huge contracts which our Championship income will not match. Lerner will then find it even harder to find a buyer as the club's debt grows. When Lambert takes us down, we're far more likely to do a Sheffield Wednesday than a West Ham.
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I can see Lambert being sacked after the transfer window is shut. That's how incompetent I see the board as being
me too. however, i see it as a calculated move by the board rather than incompetence.
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After the experience of the last three managers we would be scraping the barrel when looking for our next manager. We really are good at turning decent managers into quivering wrecks - its a poisoned chalice
Yep, the club certainly will be looked upon as a basket case and poisoned chalice if we get rid of Lambert. He's been in the job five minutes and has had to rebuild an entire defence and plug gaps in the squad on a very tight budget. It's a very tough challenge and it will take time to sort out, I really think we have to dig in and show faith in the guy. He left Norwich because he could see the huge potential in our club, let's give him the chance.
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Alan Curbishley would improve this team and keep us up short term.
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Got to be Zola for me, will work wonders with our kids and give us all the boost we need to get the confidence back!
Where on earth is the evidence that he will work wonders with the kids? Bringing in Zola would not give me a boost - Lambert has achieved far more as a manager.
Getting rid of Lambert would be, in my opinion, sheer lunacy. It sends out all the wrong messages about our club. We need to keep calm, see the bigger picture and back our man.
The 'bigger picture' is that Lambert will relegate us, the club will end up in financial turmoil, and what decent players we do have like Weimann and Benteke will be snapped up by Premier League teams. We'll b lft with greatly reduced income whilst in the Premier League earn a huge amount more. Our good young players will leave, and we'll be left with the likes of Given, Hutton and Irland on huge contracts which our Championship income will not match. Lerner will then find it even harder to find a buyer as the club's debt grows. When Lambert takes us down, we're far more likely to do a Sheffield Wednesday than a West Ham.
I think the bigger picture is that Randy Lerner will relegate the club. Regardless of who we have running the team, since Lerner's policy of cutting back, every manager we have had has been fire-fighting and battling against the drop. I really think we would be struggling with any other manager, too. If we do go down I'd be asking Randy Lerner and Paul Faulkner to explain the mess they've got our club in. If we buy no one this transfer window - and we all know we need three/four very decent new players - will that be Lambert's fault?
We need to do what Wigan have been doing for years in this situation: we have to keep calm and show faith, get behind the manager and team and rally our way through. The fact that we are in this Wigan-esque position is totally down to our Boardroom and shows their incompetence as football administrators- you can't run a Rolls Royce as though it were an Austin Allegro.
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Bring in a descendant of our most successful manager... George Ramsay!
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Cannot believe people are mentioning Hughes or Curbs, wouldn't want either
Neil Lennon is the man for the job, and he's take it I reckon, wants out the goldfish bowl of Glasgow, and wants to manage down in England
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
if only
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
What are the maths on that?
Value of club after relegation between 40,000 of us e.g.
60m / 40,000
1.5K each I'm In!
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If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
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Why if only? Other clubs have done it, and I think taking Aston Villa down would be just cause to do what we can to remove the cretins he put us there.
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
What are the maths on that?
Value of club after relegation between 40,000 of us e.g.
60m / 40,000
1.5K each I'm In!
I only have £10.37
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2/2 anyone.RL talked to PL last night & remains rock solid in his support.Even if AV got relegated,believe RL would keep him,believes in PL .
Tweet from Pat Murphy
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
I hope so. I'm not as confident as that.
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Alan Curbishley would improve this team and keep us up short term.
He's an option for midfield, dare say he's better than Ireland, Delph and Bannan.
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Fuck me some of the opinions on here are shocking. No offence.
Lambert has to go. Lerner has backed him and he has his own team and he is failing with it. We are at the point of no return now with him unfortunately. I think he is a good manager and I'm gutted it hasn't worked out for him here but sadly PL and AVFC are not compatible.
So who to bring in. Zola? No. He was shit at West Ham. Lovely guy and a true legend/fans favourite but not capable of leading us.
RDM? No. Won the CL and it annoys when people say it was nothing to do with him but West Brom don't rate him so why should we.
Villa Legend? Let's not let nostalgia deepen our crisis. Big Ron would be a great advisor but he has been out the game too long . Southgate? Please, not a good manager. Laursen? Inexperienced.
The only choice for me is Adkins. Intelligent and footballers love him. He is an English Arsene Wenger for me. Plus he won't cost a penny and he'll wanna fuck Southampton over. He's hungry.
UTV
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
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should be a "anyone" option
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
If we go down we should band together like Swansea and take our club back from this nightmarish ownership.
What are the maths on that?
Value of club after relegation between 40,000 of us e.g.
60m / 40,000
1.5K each I'm In!
I only have £10.37
Well I did opt in a bit too hastily myself... have to sell the "really good opportunity" to the wife!
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If we go down we'll disappear like Sheff Wed or Leeds. No way will we do a West Ham or Newcastle.
if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Completely disagree - this lot would struggle in the Championship. They struggled against Div 4 Bradford, they struggled against Ipswich in cup (17th in Championship - Div 2 in old money) and will get beaten by Millwall on Friday.
Week in, week out the Championship is a slog - and half of our wankers wouldnt / couldnt put a shift in week in, week out.
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We'd be dreadful in the Championship in my opinion. Only shot at promotion would be the play-offs if mid-table was tight.
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The only choice for me is Adkins. Intelligent and footballers love him. He is an English Arsene Wenger for me. Plus he won't cost a penny and he'll wanna fuck Southampton over. He's hungry.
UTV
I like the style zoal plays but thinking it through we dont ned tippy tappy we need results and a motivator so... Agree
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2/2 anyone.RL talked to PL last night & remains rock solid in his support.Even if AV got relegated,believe RL would keep him,believes in PL .
Tweet from Pat Murphy
'Even if'
It's still a fucking fantasy for that cretin Lerner isn't it? To give you some comparison you 'might' understand, last night the Chicago Bears lost to a little league team from nowhere city Arkansas, get it?
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Me. I'll do the job.
On Football Manager I'm 6th with Villa and have done it on a budget of £0.00
Sold most of the deadwood and have scouted Europe for talent.
£200.00 a week and I'm yours.
And somebody can have my season ticket, as long as they keep my client reff going.
I'm going home after work tonight to get on that game to make myslef feel better. Still shellshocked and shaking.
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After the experience of the last three managers we would be scraping the barrel when looking for our next manager. We really are good at turning decent managers into quivering wrecks - its a poisoned chalice
Yep, the club certainly will be looked upon as a basket case and poisoned chalice if we get rid of Lambert. He's been in the job five minutes and has had to rebuild an entire defence and plug gaps in the squad on a very tight budget. It's a very tough challenge and it will take time to sort out, I really think we have to dig in and show faith in the guy. He left Norwich because he could see the huge potential in our club, let's give him the chance.
Totally agree with the above. Still feel bloody sick this morning though.
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I know the board get a lot of stick and a lot of it rightly so (particularly with regards to their silence), however, they will not let Villa get relegated. It is NOT an option. They have made bad decisions in the past but they are not stupid enough to let the worst happen.
Something big WILL happen before the window closes be it a change of manager or an influx of money.
Keep the faith guys.
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Fine if he's rock solid in his faith in Lambert that's his decision, but he has to back him financially in the transfer market. Now I have serious doubts after what happened when Bradford equalised yesterday, that was most inept tactical display ever. However if Lerner has faith he has to back him.
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one off thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
there is no one with the firepower of Benteke and Vieman, they would have a field day and you know it, that is if they stayed which is what i said originally
we are not that bad a team, just very fragile and vulneruble under pressure, most of it is in our heads, the quality of players we have are far better than any other squad in the Champs league
i'm really hopeing it doesnt come to that, and i'm not making an argument for going down either, just think we would come back easily, but it would still set us back as a club
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one of thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
there is no one with the firepower of Benteke and Vieman, they would have a field day and you know it, that is if they stayed which is what i said originally
we are not that bad a team, just very fragile and vulneruble under pressure, most of it is in our heads, the quality of players we have are far better than any other squad in the Champs league
i'm really hopeing it doesnt come to that, and i'm not making an argument for going down either, just think we would come back easily, but it would still set us back as a club
Benteke?
He's not going to be here next season if we go down. We'll do very well to keep him if we stay up. "If they stayed" doesn't come into it, there's zero chance.
Our finances are totally fucked. We go down and we're going to be more like a Leeds United or Nottingham Forest relegated side (ie staying there a while) than a Newcastle
And all this in the year the already huge TV money goes mentally huge.
Relegation this season couldn't come at a worse time.
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one off thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
there is no one with the firepower of Benteke and Vieman, they would have a field day and you know it, that is if they stayed which is what i said originally
we are not that bad a team, just very fragile and vulneruble under pressure, most of it is in our heads, the quality of players we have are far better than any other squad in the Champs league
i'm really hopeing it doesnt come to that, and i'm not making an argument for going down either, just think we would come back easily, but it would still set us back as a club
The kids confidence is ruined, they need to be taken out of the firing line because this is ruining their careers
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2/2 anyone.RL talked to PL last night & remains rock solid in his support.Even if AV got relegated,believe RL would keep him,believes in PL .
Tweet from Pat Murphy
If that is the case, then if I was PL I would have been on a plane over to the US this morning to speak to Randy face-to-face and tell him that he needs to release some funds or the position has become untenable.
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Me. I'll do the job.
On Football Manager I'm 6th with Villa and have done it on a budget of £0.00
Sold most of the deadwood and have scouted Europe for talent.
£200.00 a week and I'm yours.
And somebody can have my season ticket, as long as they keep my client reff going.
I'm going home after work tonight to get on that game to make myslef feel better. Still shellshocked and shaking.
Not a bad acheivement.
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Mike fucking Bassett would do.
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To get us out of the mess we need short term motivation from proper Villa people.
Big Ron as DOF with Martin Laursen as Manager.
Yes I know, it sounds like a post by a moron but they both love the club deeply and have experience in the game. Will be able to motiviate and galvanize the team.
I don't want to sound like Newcastle, but it could work? Get the club back to proper Villa people!
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It doesn't matter what the popular vote is, because we have the popular vote in charge right now and he's making a pig's ear of it. I had every faith in Lambert when he arrived that he'd be something completely different, and that he'd have an attitude that we've long been missing at the club. Quite frankly, the decline and the inability to arrest the decline is shocking. And really, there is little end in sight. I hate the thought of changing yet again because it brings so much volatility and instability. However, how can anything be more volatile or just generally horrendous than it is right now?
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It doesn't matter what the popular vote is, because we have the popular vote in charge right now and he's making a pig's ear of it. I had every faith in Lambert when he arrived that he'd be something completely different, and that he'd have an attitude that we've long been missing at the club. Quite frankly, the decline and the inability to arrest the decline is shocking. And really, there is little end in sight. I hate the thought of changing yet again because it brings so much volatility and instability. However, how can anything be more volatile or just generally horrendous than it is right now?
Completely agree. It's getting worse, not better and our decline is speeding up, not slowing down. We need new faces at every level: boardroom, dugout and pitch. It's a terrible, terrible mess.
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To get us out of the mess we need short term motivation from proper Villa people.
Big Ron as DOF with Martin Laursen as Manager.
Yes I know, it sounds like a post by a moron but they both love the club deeply and have experience in the game. Will be able to motiviate and galvanize the team.
I don't want to sound like Newcastle, but it could work? Get the club back to proper Villa people!
Nope. Get Curbishley in short term. Laursen isn't proven as a manager. It would be madness, even suicide to take a chance on him. We need someone who knows what he's doing.
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To get us out of the mess we need short term motivation from proper Villa people.
Big Ron as DOF with Martin Laursen as Manager.
Yes I know, it sounds like a post by a moron but they both love the club deeply and have experience in the game. Will be able to motiviate and galvanize the team.
I don't want to sound like Newcastle, but it could work? Get the club back to proper Villa people!
Nope. Get Curbishley in short term. Laursen isn't proven as a manager. It would be madness, even suicide to take a chance on him. We need someone who knows what he's doing.
yes it is a bit Newcastle ala Alan Shearer and youknow the ribbing we gave the best fans in the universe
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You could put just about any manager in charge right now and the team wouldn't get any worse, we've hit rock bottom. Lambert might go on to be a decent manager but I can't see it happening for him here, he looks as much in a rut as the rest of the club and he doesn't have one off those magnetic personalities that can lift a club.
That's what I think we need as a club now, a figurehead, someone to rally around who cares about the club as much as we do, someone who can pick the team up (and go again). Someone who can make us believe again. Right now we are an embaressment.
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one off thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
The 'performances' and league tables suggest that Villa are a very poor side and sadly getting knocked out by Bradford City isn't that much of a surprise. There is no way Villa would 'walk' any league, equally no way Benteke will still be a Villa player.
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one off thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
The 'performances' and league tables suggest that Villa are a very poor side and sadly getting knocked out by Bradford City isn't that much of a surprise. There is no way Villa would 'walk' any league, equally no way Benteke will still be a Villa player.
i still think we would be massive favourites,
even if a few left cant see why we wouldnt have a good enough squad to come back up, i think we would walk that league
but let me just say it would set the club back finacially and in no way do i think it would be a good thing for us,
i'm just saying if we did go down in my view we would be more than capable of bouncing straight back, but obviously would be severly weakend by the experience
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There's only one man for the job
He's recently back and after being out of football for a while, has a Plan A but no Plan B. His Plan A was very effective playing 4 forwards and by-passing midfield for the large part.
And like BFR has Kettering links.
The planets align - step forward Mr John Beck
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Really any point in Adkins, we'd be hiring him on the exact same basis as Lambert ie. two successive promotions and a decent first spell in the PL, except Southampton don't look as good as Norwich did
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if we went down and kept most of the squad together we would piss the championship probably with record points
but hopefully it wont happen
Not sure what you base that on considering we couldn't defeat a 4th division side over 2 legs, Villa go down and they will be down for a while.
oh come on, you know it was a historic one off thing,
if we played them every week without cameras we would beat them 9 times out of 10, we would be to strong for anyone in the championship
The 'performances' and league tables suggest that Villa are a very poor side and sadly getting knocked out by Bradford City isn't that much of a surprise. There is no way Villa would 'walk' any league, equally no way Benteke will still be a Villa player.
i still think we would be massive favourites,
even if a few left cant see why we wouldnt have a good enough squad to come back up, i think we would walk that league
but let me just say it would set the club back finacially and in no way do i think it would be a good thing for us,
i'm just saying if we did go down in my view we would be more than capable of bouncing straight back, but obviously would be severly weakend by the experience
I have a mate who is an Owls fan and he told me that in the year 2000. He hasn't said it very often since.
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Poyet for me but id take any of the others ahead of lambert.
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Really any point in Adkins, we'd be hiring him on the exact same basis as Lambert ie. two successive promotions and a decent first spell in the PL, except Southampton don't look as good as Norwich did
Yep and nothing to suggest he would come (this side of relegation).
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The fans wanted Lambert (flash in the pan craze for Solskjaer notwithstanding), and Lambert was appointed. If Lambert is to be replaced perhaps the best thing Randy could do would be to ignore the fans?
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Big Fat Ron...purely because his name goes best with claret and blue army.
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The fans wanted Lambert (flash in the pan craze for Solskjær notwithstanding), and Lambert was appointed. If Lambert is to be replaced perhaps the best thing Randy could do would be to ignore the fans?
You're right - like he did with TSM
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all these calls for Poyet. Isn't he just today's Paul Lambert? This time last year under McTwat, we wanted Lambert. We got him. What's to say the next bloke we want doesn't end up the same?
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It's not Lambert necessarily, it's the whole direction of the club. There's no use having anyone in charge while Lerner is doing what he's doing at boardroom level.
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The fans wanted Lambert (flash in the pan craze for Solskjær notwithstanding), and Lambert was appointed. If Lambert is to be replaced perhaps the best thing Randy could do would be to ignore the fans?
You're right - like he did with TSM
So he'll get it wrong either way then. Or he could just keep the present guy and back him properly.
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It's not Lambert necessarily, it's the whole direction of the club. There's no use having anyone in charge while Lerner is doing what he's doing at boardroom level.
No that's very true, but Lambert's desperate lack of tactical awareness last night was all him and very alarming.
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It's not Lambert necessarily, it's the whole direction of the club. There's no use having anyone in charge while Lerner is doing what he's doing at boardroom level.
No that's very true, but Lambert's desperate lack of tactical awareness last night was all him and very alarming.
Frankly he just looks desperate, tired, at his wits' end and for all the world like he's just given up. He just chucked on strikers without even trying to weld them together. No plan, desperately just chucking players in and hoping for the best - sounds like the approach of the whole club at the moment.
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The fans wanted Lambert (flash in the pan craze for Solskjær notwithstanding), and Lambert was appointed. If Lambert is to be replaced perhaps the best thing Randy could do would be to ignore the fans?
You know what happened the last time he did that...
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The fans wanted Lambert (flash in the pan craze for Solskjær notwithstanding), and Lambert was appointed. If Lambert is to be replaced perhaps the best thing Randy could do would be to ignore the fans?
You're right - like he did with TSM
So he'll get it wrong either way then. Or he could just keep the present guy and back him properly.
Someone wrote damned if we do damned if we don't
The point is it doesn't look like he is going anywhere and unlike others I don't think 'anyone else could do a better job' is necessarily the case - Wolves found that out last season so did Derby when they hired Jewell
There is no practical alternative for the rest of the season other than Adkins (and he wouldn't necessrily come and it would like hiring Lambert version 1.1) or RDM (not enthralled). They'd may want what they are being paid not to work by their previous clubs as compensation (if that was the severance agreement).
I don't see the point of sacking him and paying £2m more in compensation - though I compeltely understand the frustrations of many others saying we should.
Just don't agree with Anyone But Lambert Brigade.
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all these calls for Poyet. Isn't he just today's Paul Lambert? This time last year under McTwat, we wanted Lambert. We got him. What's to say the next bloke we want doesn't end up the same?
That's an argument for never changing your manager. If ever there is an argument for changing your manager it's now - in the season when relegation will cost you however many millions and leave you even further behind that you were already.
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I'd give it to Gary Neville
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Tom Hanks
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I'd give it to Gary Neville
Any particular reason?
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Steve Staunton or Big Ron
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I'd give it to Gary Neville
Any particular reason?
Just wanted to suggest someone that hasn't been said ;-)
In all seriousness, he's a winner (as much as I hate him))', highly rated by the England coaching set up, knows the game, knows what premier league players are like.
Think he will make a good manager one day (if he gets fed up with tv). He talks the most sense out of anyone on sky.
Is there a manager available/option the he could work alongside?
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I'd give it to Gary Neville
Any particular reason?
Because he is not Scottish?
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all these calls for Poyet. Isn't he just today's Paul Lambert? This time last year under McTwat, we wanted Lambert. We got him. What's to say the next bloke we want doesn't end up the same?
That's an argument for never changing your manager. If ever there is an argument for changing your manager it's now - in the season when relegation will cost you however many millions and leave you even further behind that you were already.
I'm not saying not to change him if it is deserved. I'm just saying going with the popular vote isn't always the answer as we are finding out.
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I'd give it to Gary Neville
Any particular reason?
his favourite ground is Villa park
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Phil Dowd
1)knows the players
2) is already hated, so the 6 month honeymoon period can be over early
3) will no longer be able to referee
4) his mates might give us a few pens and goal kicks instead of corners
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If Lambert is sacked, we should give a six-month deal to someone with PL experience who could sort out or defence quickly. From those criterias, we could probably do worse than Sven Goran Eriksson or Steve MacClaren. But I doubt that the fans would greet any of those appointments with any sort of joy.
The reasoning is that what we need to stay up -- a bit of tactical nous and a good deal of pragmatism -- is what Lambert lacks.
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fucking hell, Steve McLaren. That's all we need. He was just ace at Forest. And Sven just joined 1860 Munich luckily.
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The Wally with the Brolly? Are you having a laugh?
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There's a lot of things in Gary Neville's favour if he wants the job.
For one thing, Randy could get another signed endorsement from the honourable Sir Alex, the most respected man in all of soccer.
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you see this is my big worry if we show Lambert the door,
who will take over, i find it easier to support Lambert as i think i understand something of what he's trying to eventually do (although this is deminishing slowly)
but to bring in some ex failed old has been no hoper would just be worse
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Phil Dowd
1)knows the players
2) is already hated, so the 6 month honeymoon period can be over early
3) will no longer be able to referee
4) his mates might give us a few pens and goal kicks instead of corners
Only if he brings Halsey as his assistant
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people need to stop mentioning Curbishley too. There's a reason he's been out of the game for so long. And on top of everything he can't say Birmingham properly. Twat
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Me. I'll do the job.
On Football Manager I'm 6th with Villa and have done it on a budget of £0.00
Sold most of the deadwood and have scouted Europe for talent.
£200.00 a week and I'm yours.
And somebody can have my season ticket, as long as they keep my client reff going.
I'm going home after work tonight to get on that game to make myslef feel better. Still shellshocked and shaking.
6th? Shit that game is harder than the real thing!
Used to be great years ago - Buy Uwe Rosler/ Tommy Svindal Larsen/De La Cuesta etc and win every game about 8-0
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Don't know if this has already been suggested but would anyone take OGS? Norweigan league finished now I think, so he might be more open to move. He has also been mentored by Fergie as a manager. He could be a breath of fresh air to this club maybe. Although I don't know why any up and coming manager would want to take up the reins of such a poorly run club in all honesty.
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The Wally with the Brolly? Are you having a laugh?
No, I'm just trying to add to the debate.
I'm not saying that sacking Paul Lambert and hiring Steve McClaren (or Sven) is a good idea.
What I am saying is if we sack Paul Lambert, then what?
Most decent managers will look at the quality of the squad and wonder if taking the job will mean adding a relegation to their CV -- and thus say 'no, thanks'.
So what we are looking at are managers desperate for a job, or someone from a low level that can't say no if a Premier League club asks.
Picking someone from the latter category is a huge risk. Picking from the first category is too, because the managers are out of a job for a reason. Neither Sven nor Steve (the examples I mentioned) have been very impressive lately. Howver, they do have a history of being able to organise a defence and being pragmatic, which were the criterias I set out.
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You could put just about any manager in charge right now and the team wouldn't get any worse, we've hit rock bottom. Lambert might go on to be a decent manager but I can't see it happening for him here, he looks as much in a rut as the rest of the club and he doesn't have one off those magnetic personalities that can lift a club.
That's what I think we need as a club now, a figurehead, someone to rally around who cares about the club as much as we do, someone who can pick the team up (and go again). Someone who can make us believe again. Right now we are an embaressment.
I'm with you on that. I do like Lambert but at what point do you stop saying "another few games" and take action?
The club definitely needs a personality. What we wouldn't do for the next BFR.... Shit, let's get the old one in.
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people need to stop mentioning Curbishley too. There's a reason he's been out of the game for so long. And on top of everything he can't say Birmingham properly. Twat
Lambert can't say anything properly.
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Rab C has already passed on fridays press duties to Vlaar, might aswell make him manager couldn't do a worse job.
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Also worth reminding ourselves that if the Lambert experiment fails. Randy's not likely to go for another one in the Poyet/OGS/Zola mould.
I wouldn't suggest Adkins as others have said, he has an identical CV to Lambert.
If Randy does give Lambert the chop, he'll have to get someone with a track record of getting players on his side and getting them organised.
And no, I have no clue who that might be in the game today. I have to start looking at our ex-players/managers. I think if we keep getting worse in the next few games. I would actually consider that.
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Whoever it is that takes over would have to be happy managing in the second tier because without player-recruits that is where I think we're heading.
Much as I applauded his appointment and his youth strategy, Lambert and the squad are like the walking dead at the moment and need a serious injection of experience.
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people need to stop mentioning Curbishley too. There's a reason he's been out of the game for so long. And on top of everything he can't say Birmingham properly. Twat
Lambert can't say anything properly.
I'm not too concerned about our manager not having a good understanding of the English language providing he has a good understanding of football. I would hope our next manager is foreign. I'm done with British managers.
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I think we have three options. We either ride it out, as he assembled alot of this squad and see if he can get us over the finish line.
Or if we sack him - try and get a big name who can be an impact manager in the MON/Redknapp mould to get players to play above themselves. Alternatively give it to KMac as he knows a fair few of the squad and maybe they'll play for him.
If we sack him we may get more out of Warnock and Bent. That could be vital.
I think Hughes or Souness would be the best shouts, they seem to do OK over the short term and can make a side solid (I know Hughes has ballsed up when he's had money but he does the basics well).
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We just need a Michael Laudrup type as manager. It will be too late to hire new manager and add new faces in 8 days. We just need new coaching staff to work with Lambert and invest in 3 players.
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Going to sound boring and repetitive but POYET. Only issue is whether he sees us as bigger than Brighton, who still have a chance of replacing us next season.
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Whoever he is, and whenever he is appointed, I'd like our next manager to be actively involved in the coaching side of management. There's something to be said for the European model of Director of Football and Coach but I recognise it has almost never worked over here. That's probably down to the conservatism inherent in English football but it's worth considering, particularly if you have an absent owner. As well as setting the overall strategy, a DoF could act as a figurehead in Lerner's stead.
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Pat Murphy says Lerner won't be sacking Lambert even if we are relegated
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Pat Murphy says Lerner won't be sacking Lambert even if we are relegated
Unless Lerner told him this directly then I don't see how he would know this.
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I know the board get a lot of stick and a lot of it rightly so (particularly with regards to their silence), however, they will not let Villa get relegated. It is NOT an option. They have made bad decisions in the past but they are not stupid enough to let the worst happen.
Something big WILL happen before the window closes be it a change of manager or an influx of money.
Keep the faith guys.
So why don't they come out and say that? And put something in place to keep us up?
Time is ticking away if we want to get players in. Surely we would want them in position before Newcastle next Tuesday?
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Why are stupid threads like this left alone, whilst others (with more sense) are locked or deleted?
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I know the board get a lot of stick and a lot of it rightly so (particularly with regards to their silence), however, they will not let Villa get relegated. It is NOT an option. They have made bad decisions in the past but they are not stupid enough to let the worst happen.
Something big WILL happen before the window closes be it a change of manager or an influx of money.
Keep the faith guys.
So why don't they come out and say that? And put something in place to keep us up?
Time is ticking away if we want to get players in. Surely we would want them in position before Newcastle next Tuesday?
Agreed we'd want them here by no later than Saturday before a training session Sunday
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Big Fat Ron...purely because his name goes best with claret and blue army.
If that is the criteria then Big Fat Sam could be in the running. Never thought I would say this, but I do think Sam Allardyce could do a better job than the current manager of the Aston Villa. Yes, the football would be awful, but having watched West Ham a few times on TV then it is no worse than what we have served up this season. He would get us organised (the same goes for Mark Hughes in my opinion) and coming from the West Midlands, he would at least have an idea about the size and expectations of the club. He would probably give the club a bit of stability for a couple of years and we could then build on that.
I accept that is not going to be a popular opinion and even as I'm writing this, I can't help but think "is this what it has come to?".
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McLiesh wasnt so bad.....................he kept us up.
I'm available,
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Big Fat Ron...purely because his name goes best with claret and blue army.
If that is the criteria then Big Fat Sam could be in the running. Never thought I would say this, but I do think Sam Allardyce could do a better job than the current manager of the Aston Villa. Yes, the football would be awful, but having watched West Ham a few times on TV then it is no worse than what we have served up this season. He would get us organised (the same goes for Mark Hughes in my opinion) and coming from the West Midlands, he would at least have an idea about the size and expectations of the club. He would probably give the club a bit of stability for a couple of years and we could then build on that.
I accept that is not going to be a popular opinion and even as I'm writing this, I can't help but think "is this what it has come to?".
Paul Lambert's football is shite, AND it leads to us getting humiliated on a weekly basis.
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It seems the mantra is 'anybody but Lambert'.
Sorry, haven't read a compelling arguement for any of the listed possibilities or any of the additional suggestions.
Being realistic, if there is no money to spend, who would want the job. A has been with one final throw of the dice? Would a manager with their career in front of them risk that coming here.
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If Lambert is sacked, we should give a six-month deal to someone with PL experience who could sort out or defence quickly. From those criterias, we could probably do worse than Sven Goran Eriksson or Steve MacClaren. But I doubt that the fans would greet any of those appointments with any sort of joy.
The reasoning is that what we need to stay up -- a bit of tactical nous and a good deal of pragmatism -- is what Lambert lacks.
How did Lambert turn around Norwich, get them promoted twice and into the Premier League mid-table without tactical nous? Last night - and much of this season - has been pretty awful BUT what Lambert is being asked to do is akin to trying to slow down and turn around a super tanker that is heading towards the Niagara Falls. Tactical nous goes some way to solving the problem, for sure, but so do resources. We needed quality players in as of the 1st of January, we have squandered so many points and a Cup Final this month through not getting the required bodies in - the buck stops with Faulkner, his administration and financial planning, in my view. Good managers don't become bad managers as soon as the ink has dried on their Aston Villa contracts.
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I will tell you why. Because he doesnt believe in wingers the fool. He has said they are old fashioned , the fool.
So his plan appears to be hoof it towards Bentekes head and hope,the fool.
Bent will score goals if we had a winger who could cross fast and hard across the area
Which means we could yet stop up.
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I will tell you why. Because he doesnt believe in wingers the fool. He has said they are old fashioned , the fool.
So his plan appears to be hoof it towards Bentekes head and hope,the fool.
Bent will score goals if we had a winger who could cross fast and hard across the area
Which means we could yet stop up.
Spot on. We don't need a genius manager, just someone who understand this and will consistently apply it week in week out. Yes the squad is still too weak but we would guarantee to pick up more points than under the stubborn and unintelligible Lambert.
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I see Grayson's got the shove. Seem to remember he was put forward by some on here not so long ago Maybe Lerner could give a different unemployed manager 1 game each till the end of the season and the one who does best gets the gig next season. Sounds mental i know, but seeing as Lerner's shit at choosing managers, and we seem to be as well, could be our only chance :0)
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I see Grayson's got the shove.
Grayson?
I'd take Cholmondeley-Warner at this point.
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It seems the mantra is 'anybody but Lambert'.
Possibly - on this thread.
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I see Grayson's got the shove.
Grayson?
I'd take Cholmondeley-Warner at this point.
heh.
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I see Grayson's got the shove. Seem to remember he was put forward by some on here not so long ago Maybe Lerner could give a different unemployed manager 1 game each till the end of the season and the one who does best gets the gig next season. Sounds mental i know, but seeing as Lerner's shit at choosing managers, and we seem to be as well, could be our only chance :0)
Just give it to Alexander Armstrong.
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heheheh.
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He isnt going anywhere but if he does go then someone with PL experience who can think tactically very quickly.
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Allardyce is a very good manager at this level. I'd have no problem with him at the Villa.
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He's limited though.
But yeah as I said elsewhere we'd never be in any danger of relegation under his watch so a bit like Gregory era.
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Me, i'll do it for half what he's on and I couldn't do a worse job.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Have a look at Butcher's win ratio at all his other clubs and you might change your mind. As for Lennon, his team have no competition anymore.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Mark Hughes might be desperate enough to take it if it'd be offered to him but can't see that happening.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Mark Hughes might be desperate enough to take it if it'd be offered to him but can't see that happening.
He's another one who's flopped at his last two clubs, despite having decent money to spend. One to stay well clear from.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Mark Hughes might be desperate enough to take it if it'd be offered to him but can't see that happening.
He's another one who's flopped at his last two clubs, despite having decent money to spend. One to stay well clear from.
Yeah and he's probably not big enough Yes man for Lerner, and given his track record on signings, especially in QPR we can safely assume that Lerner and Faulkner has one look at it and tell him to go away.
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Allardyce is a very good manager at this level. I'd have no problem with him at the Villa.
Neither would I. We need results. He would give us that. His teams never roll over and die as often as we do currently.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Mark Hughes might be desperate enough to take it if it'd be offered to him but can't see that happening.
He's another one who's flopped at his last two clubs, despite having decent money to spend. One to stay well clear from.
Yeah and he's probably not big enough Yes man for Lerner, and given his track record on signings, especially in QPR we can safely assume that Lerner and Faulkner has one look at it and tell him to go away.
Bearing in mind QPR were on something like 9 points when he left, i'd have done the same.
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Allardyce is a very good manager at this level. I'd have no problem with him at the Villa.
Neither would I. We need results. He would give us that. His teams never roll over and die as often as we do currently.
they rolled over and died against Arsenal the other night, and against Sunderland some of there supporters were saying it was one of the worst they had seen for players not trying
as much as Allardyce has done for WH a lot of their supporters would be quite happy for us to take him, he's not very popular down there
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i've had a season ticket for 12 years and if di matteo was manager i'd never go again, he's not a manager he's a mascot our players need a manager whos going to give them a kick up the arse, id get kevin macdonald with mccalsiter as assistant
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Changing the manager without either a change in ownership or the current owner growing a brain, will do nothing.
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Lambert isn't going anywhere, it would mean Randy forking out money. He is with us, and even though he's not been very good at all, we have to try and support him.
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I voted for Adkins if Lambert went. Despite having the same qualifications as Lambert so carrying the same risks you might at least understand what he's saying more.
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I see Grayson's got the shove. Seem to remember he was put forward by some on here not so long ago Maybe Lerner could give a different unemployed manager 1 game each till the end of the season and the one who does best gets the gig next season. Sounds mental i know, but seeing as Lerner's shit at choosing managers, and we seem to be as well, could be our only chance :0)
Just give it to Alexander Armstrong.
That could work.
Ideally we'd want Stephen Fry, but we can't afford him, and Alexander Armstrong is like a cheap version of him, much more in our price bracket.
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I see Grayson's got the shove. Seem to remember he was put forward by some on here not so long ago Maybe Lerner could give a different unemployed manager 1 game each till the end of the season and the one who does best gets the gig next season. Sounds mental i know, but seeing as Lerner's shit at choosing managers, and we seem to be as well, could be our only chance :0)
Just give it to Alexander Armstrong.
That could work.
Ideally we'd want Stephen Fry, but we can't afford him, and Alexander Armstrong is like a cheap version of him, much more in our price bracket.
A bit pointless. Id go for either Keith Harris and Orville or The Krankies. No hang on they are Scottish. Delete my second option.
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I fancy Neill Lennon for the job, or even big Terry Butcher, can't see any of the names mentioned taking the job tho
Have a look at Butcher's win ratio at all his other clubs and you might change your mind. As for Lennon, his team have no competition anymore.
Aye quite right, Lennons had no competition...in europe
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and terry B. stats
167 games 67 wins 1,5 goals per game and 1.5 points per game ....AND!
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/terry-butcher/aufeinenblick/trainer_650.html
Ok no Rangers in league, but ICT are second in league with probably 4 smallest budget (Dfc St Mirren and Ross C)
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Changing the manager without either a change in ownership or the current owner growing a brain, will do nothing.
Agreed Paul....
We need a change at the very top of the club...
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and terry B. stats
167 games 67 wins 1,5 goals per game and 1.5 points per game ....AND!
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/terry-butcher/aufeinenblick/trainer_650.html
Ok no Rangers in league, but ICT are second in league with probably 4 smallest budget (Dfc St Mirren and Ross C)
Have a look at how he did at Brentford and a few other clubs he's managed outside of the SPL.
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Tonight is exactly the same as 95% of the previous 30 matches. Lambert out.
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No excuses now, he has to go. We will be murdered by Newcastle if he stays. The guy is absolutely useless
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Literally anyone no one could do worse than this muppett.
My fucking work what the fuck is going on
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Piss off Lambert, you twat, I am so fucking angry with this idiot
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Kevin MacDonald.
Alan Curbs.
Gareth Southgate.
Nigel Adkins.
Any of them. Or anyone else.
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In answer to the original question, fucking anyone.
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FFS, millwall pissing on our parade.
Adkins is a good shout!
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Anyone at all, just get rid of the twat right now, nobody could do a worse job
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and terry B. stats
167 games 67 wins 1,5 goals per game and 1.5 points per game ....AND!
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/terry-butcher/aufeinenblick/trainer_650.html
Ok no Rangers in league, but ICT are second in league with probably 4 smallest budget (Dfc St Mirren and Ross C)
Have a look at how he did at Brentford and a few other clubs he's managed outside of the SPL.
Looks like he's leading ICT to the clubs first major final.
and Ron Saunders at Man City only kept them up on goal difference. Your point is...
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Ron Saunders.
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I'm still for him staying but if he does go my choice would be Nigel Pearson.
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12 months on and nothing's changed.
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11 even. Sigh.
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Let's get Mackay before he gets snapped up.
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Let's get Mackay before he gets snapped up.
No more Scottish managers!
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I'd put Cowans & McAndrew in charge until the summer, then reassess.
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I wouldn't - if they got us relegated, it'd tarnish two great servants of the club.
Villas-Boas for me. Even the name makes sense!
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Let's get Mackay before he gets snapped up.
Let's get a young, Scottish manager whose greatest achievement up to now is getting his team promoted.
A manager spent more money in the summer than our current one did and who leaves a team lower than us in the table.
Remind me why we should do that again? What is he bringing that our current manager doesn't?
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Come to think of it, we don't really need this old thread duplicating what is being said on the current one.