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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Dave Javu on January 09, 2013, 05:00:27 PM
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I haven't been to many away games over the past few years, but I don't think I'll be going to too many more if yesterday evening is an indication of what I should expect.
It's really quite embarrassing watching quite a sizeable proportion of fans showing their "support" by breaking seats (wow - now that must really take a lot of imagination), throwing missiles onto the pitch (a lifetime ban is a good way of saving on those pricey match tickets, I suppose), getting into rather pathetic gesticulating competitions with opposition fans (it's what my 5-year old son is currently growing out of) and 'encouraging' our own Villa team by screaming/baying "you scottish c***!" at regular intervals. Another contributor has also reported fights between Villa fans.
How can we complain about other supporters causing damage to Villa Park if our lot are just as guilty of mindless vandalism? Next time the Police do something unreasonable to innocent Villa fans, how do we have any sort of recourse to their actions if a significant proportion of our rabble behave in the fashion detailed above?
You know who you are. Grow up, stop dragging our glorious name through the mud and let's show other football fans how to support a team, rather than giving a lesson on how to drag one down.
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Have to say I'm surprised by that. The games I've been able to get to in the last few years have been mostly away, and I've never seen any trouble whatsoever, and the support is largely first rate, as fans of the home side are often quick to point out. McLeish got a load of abuse away at Wigan last season, but then he deserved it.
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Have to say I'm inclined to agree with the OP.
I'd say I attend about 60-70% of our away fixtures and in generally our support is excellent and fair minded. Look at the support at Norwich I'm convinced it helped the team and spurred them on to victory.
Last night it was terrible from the off, maybe it was how poorly organised gaining entrance to the stadium was and I know there was alot of wound up people before we got in.
From my point of view how do you get into a stadium half an hour before kick off and miss the first 5 minutes. Took 35 mins to get up the stairs and into the ground at which point I was told to just find somewhere to sit. I ended up in block E instead of Block C with no steward able or be bothered to help.
Obviously how the game panned out didn't help but we hardly covered ourselve in glory with our support. There was certainly no sustained support as there was at Norwich just a load of abuse.
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There's always a small minority of dickheads. Always has been always will be.
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Last night it was terrible from the off, maybe it was how poorly organised gaining entrance to the stadium was and I know there was alot of wound up people before we got in.
From my point of view how do you get into a stadium half an hour before kick off and miss the first 5 minutes. Took 35 mins to get up the stairs and into the ground at which point I was told to just find somewhere to sit. I ended up in block E instead of Block C with no steward able or be bothered to help.
Surprised there hasn't been more mention of this here. It took me ages to get in but I was at least in my seat before KO. I spent the first quarter of an hour after KO worrying about Joe as I was guessing that the crowding and pushing on the stairwell & the entrance would've got worse after KO, and I could see pure panic on the faces of police & stewards from my seat just above the entry point of the stand. I actually started videoing it on my phone because I was so anxious. I am relieved that they somehow got away with the pure incompetence without incident. For me it really showed that the possibility of 'another Hillsborough' is in no way alleviated by providing seats if crowd control is as incompetent as ever.
They had also exacerbated it by sending coaches on a massive detour so that many of us arrived much later than necessary.
However, that entry clearly impacted on our support. We went into the ground in a great mood, but finally arrived at our seats variously anxious, angry, disorientated etc. As an away following we never really got going on the way I have known at other away fixtures.
Interestingly, local radio when we got back to our coach was interviewing a safety steward who said he was waiting for a full report but felt they had gone a long way towards addressing the problems they had had at the Arsenal fixture.
I certainly don't feel in the mood for making excuses for our team today, but it would seem Valley Parade has managed to perfectly maximise home advantage in terms of support for more that one League Cup fixture this season.
But - people who smash stuff up - idiots, please stay away from me!
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I haven't been to many away games over the past few years, but I don't think I'll be going to too many more if yesterday evening is an indication of what I should expect.
It's really quite embarrassing watching quite a sizeable proportion of fans showing their "support" by breaking seats (wow - now that must really take a lot of imagination), throwing missiles onto the pitch (a lifetime ban is a good way of saving on those pricey match tickets, I suppose), getting into rather pathetic gesticulating competitions with opposition fans (it's what my 5-year old son is currently growing out of) and 'encouraging' our own Villa team by screaming/baying "you scottish c***!" at regular intervals. Another contributor has also reported fights between Villa fans.
How can we complain about other supporters causing damage to Villa Park if our lot are just as guilty of mindless vandalism? Next time the Police do something unreasonable to innocent Villa fans, how do we have any sort of recourse to their actions if a significant proportion of our rabble behave in the fashion detailed above?
You know who you are. Grow up, stop dragging our glorious name through the mud and let's show other football fans how to support a team, rather than give a lesson how to drag one down.
I wasn't there last night so I can't comment too much on your opening post but if accurate then it is deplorable.
That said the players, management and board are also guilty of dragging our name through the mud.
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The malevolence from some of our supporters was woeful .
Bloke next to me was constantly shouting at Bradford fans that he was going to slice them open and slash their throats.
How can someone get themselves so worked up about Bradford?
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The malevolence from some of our supporters was woeful .
Bloke next to me was constantly shouting at Bradford fans that he was going to slice them open and slash their throats.
How can someone get themselves so worked up about Bradford?
I wonder if he'll be so 'brave' at The Den.
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I agree with Dave Javu's comments but doubt the culprits have the intelligence to read the post.
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The malevolence from some of our supporters was woeful .
Bloke next to me was constantly shouting at Bradford fans that he was going to slice them open and slash their throats.
How can someone get themselves so worked up about Bradford?
I genuinely don't understand the mentality of someone who thinks 'Right, I'm going to schlep up to Bradford, fork out for a ticket (and booze as well, presumably), act like I'm a violent scumbag, and then schlep back down to the Midlands.'
There are some unfathomably moronic people about.
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Anyone opposed to safe standung should have gone to valleyy parade last night cuz the arrangements there were far from safe from the crush on the stairway to the chaos once inside the ground
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There are dickheads everywhere. Not that it makes it Ok.
I had a half season ticket in the lower holte once, row J.
We played Arsenal around Xmas time and this older dude (late 50's) spent the whole game calling every black Arsenal player a "golly wog" or a "nig nog". I called the club and they moved my ticket. Don't know if anything was done about the bloke. Generally a few of the people around him thought it was funny.
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The malevolence from some of our supporters was woeful .
Bloke next to me was constantly shouting at Bradford fans that he was going to slice them open and slash their throats.
How can someone get themselves so worked up about Bradford?
I wonder if he'll be so 'brave' at The Den.
When he's in a stand surrounded by thousands of Villa fans, undoubtedly. On the streets around the stadium, perhaps not.
It's a shame to hear about a small number of thugs, but I think the fans were the only credit we got out of that game last night, Villa support was all that could be heard until their 3rd.
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There was a *lot* of abuse directed towards our own players last night and you could see that the players could hear it. It was disappointing. I also saw 2 broken seats on my way out.
I had my usual cigarette and entered the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. I got to my seat without issues except that some lads had tickets in different areas but stood together in my row. As I approached the turnstiles nearest the station there were a fair few people but half way down the stand (I was in block C) it was pretty much clear.
I get to about 5-6 away games a season and I could be imagining it but whenever we have a large away contingent the idiots seem to appear. Wolves away would be a good example. When it's more modest then we seem to get the away crowd that we're all rightly proud of. I also think that as a home crowd we're much less patient with the team when it's near capacity. Just as it is on here you get some fans who believe you should support the team through thick and thin and others who believe they have a right to express their displeasure. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, just different opinions. It probably explains the in-fighting that the OP mentioned.
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I go to a lot of aways and the fans are normally very good and there's rarely a problem. Last night seemed to bring out the worst in some people unfortunatley, it was a bit depressing.
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There are dickheads everywhere. Not that it makes it Ok.
I had a half season ticket in the lower holte once, row J.
We played Arsenal around Xmas time and this older dude (late 50's) spent the whole game calling every black Arsenal player a "golly wog" or a "nig nog". I called the club and they moved my ticket. Don't know if anything was done about the bloke. Generally a few of the people around him thought it was funny.
did you report it and point him out?
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I go to a lot of aways and the fans are normally very good and there's rarely a problem. Last night seemed to bring out the worst in some people unfortunatley, it was a bit depressing.
i think you were quite close to me clampy, did you hear the guy continually shouting 'you fucking bradford retarded ******' over and over? he didnt stop for the whole of the match.
i dont know if these people actually ever assess themselves or are they too thick to realise the filth just regurgitating out of their mouth for the whole evening offends people!
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It was a semi final, people had been drinking and the team had a mare.
A recipe for trouble.
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I go to a lot of aways and the fans are normally very good and there's rarely a problem. Last night seemed to bring out the worst in some people unfortunatley, it was a bit depressing.
i think you were quite close to me clampy, did you hear the guy continually shouting 'you fucking bradford retarded c***s' over and over? he didnt stop for the whole of the match.
i dont know if these people actually ever assess themselves or are they too thick to realise the filth just regurgitating out of their mouth for the whole evening offends people!
The only chap i heard on a regular basis shouted 'useless c****s' quite a lot. It may have been the same chap though.
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Not condoning it but swearing goes with the territory.
This is football lads, it's not an afternoon at the tennis.
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I haven't been to many away games over the past few years, but I don't think I'll be going to too many more if yesterday evening is an indication of what I should expect.
It's really quite embarrassing watching quite a sizeable proportion of fans showing their "support" by breaking seats (wow - now that must really take a lot of imagination), throwing missiles onto the pitch (a lifetime ban is a good way of saving on those pricey match tickets, I suppose), getting into rather pathetic gesticulating competitions with opposition fans (it's what my 5-year old son is currently growing out of) and 'encouraging' our own Villa team by screaming/baying "you scottish c***!" at regular intervals. Another contributor has also reported fights between Villa fans.
How can we complain about other supporters causing damage to Villa Park if our lot are just as guilty of mindless vandalism? Next time the Police do something unreasonable to innocent Villa fans, how do we have any sort of recourse to their actions if a significant proportion of our rabble behave in the fashion detailed above?
You know who you are. Grow up, stop dragging our glorious name through the mud and let's show other football fans how to support a team, rather than give a lesson how to drag one down.
I stopped reading after the first line
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Not condoning it but swearing goes with the territory.
This is football lads, it's not an afternoon at the tennis.
True, but it was for nearly the whole 90 minutes. He was the kind of person you did'nt want to stand behind.
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I haven't been to many away games over the past few years, but I don't think I'll be going to too many more if yesterday evening is an indication of what I should expect.
It's really quite embarrassing watching quite a sizeable proportion of fans showing their "support" by breaking seats (wow - now that must really take a lot of imagination), throwing missiles onto the pitch (a lifetime ban is a good way of saving on those pricey match tickets, I suppose), getting into rather pathetic gesticulating competitions with opposition fans (it's what my 5-year old son is currently growing out of) and 'encouraging' our own Villa team by screaming/baying "you scottish c***!" at regular intervals. Another contributor has also reported fights between Villa fans.
How can we complain about other supporters causing damage to Villa Park if our lot are just as guilty of mindless vandalism? Next time the Police do something unreasonable to innocent Villa fans, how do we have any sort of recourse to their actions if a significant proportion of our rabble behave in the fashion detailed above?
You know who you are. Grow up, stop dragging our glorious name through the mud and let's show other football fans how to support a team, rather than give a lesson how to drag one down.
I stopped reading after the first line
Why did you?
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I got pulled by the guy next to me for calling Bannan a useless Scottish something or other. I'm fairly certain I didn't swear either. But the guy asked me what a players nationality had to do with him being useless in a quite strong Scottish accent! I instantly apologised to him as I didn't want to cause offence to a fellow fan.
I was also otherwise occupied to have a long debate with someone about Scotland's current standing in the world of footy and how being described as Scottish says more eloquently than any four letter word the quality of Bannans performance, not even withstanding his actual place of birth.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188378251308080&set=a.176772782468627.61665.176735465805692&type=1&comment_id=354157¬if_t=photo_reply
Another instance of the dickhead minority in our support!
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Not condoning it but swearing goes with the territory.
This is football lads, it's not an afternoon at the tennis.
True, but it was for nearly the whole 90 minutes. He was the kind of person you did'nt want to stand behind.
he continually shouted it from the first to the last second at OUR players. and even if you think it is appropriate behaviour i dont ever see a disclaimer on my ticket saying 'come to the football and say what the hell you want'. if you think no one should have any standards then you are no worse than him. you dont expect a decent human being to behave that way, there is no need!
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I got pulled by the guy next to me for calling Bannan a useless Scottish something or other. I'm fairly certain I didn't swear either. But the guy asked me what a players nationality had to do with him being useless in a quite strong Scottish accent! I instantly apologised to him as I didn't want to cause offence to a fellow fan.
I was also otherwise occupied to have a long debate with someone about Scotland's current standing in the world of footy and how being described as Scottish says more eloquently than any four letter word the quality of Bannans performance, not even withstanding his actual place of birth.
At least you got pulled so you didn't have a wasted journey!
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188378251308080&set=a.176772782468627.61665.176735465805692&type=1&comment_id=354157¬if_t=photo_reply
Another instance of the dickhead minority in our support!
Can you explain how thats a dickhead minority in our support?
Cheers
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188378251308080&set=a.176772782468627.61665.176735465805692&type=1&comment_id=354157¬if_t=photo_reply
Another instance of the dickhead minority in our support!
Can you explain how thats a dickhead minority in our support?
Cheers
yeah, i will. filthy racist scumbags! do you support most of the comments?
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188378251308080&set=a.176772782468627.61665.176735465805692&type=1&comment_id=354157¬if_t=photo_reply
Another instance of the dickhead minority in our support!
Can you explain how thats a dickhead minority in our support?
Cheers
Some of the responses to that picture are a disgrace. "Smelly slag" by one Reece AVFC Bailey foremost among them.
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Not condoning it but swearing goes with the territory.
This is football lads, it's not an afternoon at the tennis.
True, but it was for nearly the whole 90 minutes. He was the kind of person you did'nt want to stand behind.
he continually shouted it from the first to the last second at OUR players. and even if you think it is appropriate behaviour i dont ever see a disclaimer on my ticket saying 'come to the football and say what the hell you want'. if you think no one should have any standards then you are no worse than him. you dont expect a decent human being to behave that way, there is no need!
There was a bloke behind us (block D) who was dishing it out to our players from beginning to end.
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
Cheers.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188378251308080&set=a.176772782468627.61665.176735465805692&type=1&comment_id=354157¬if_t=photo_reply
Another instance of the dickhead minority in our support!
Can you explain how thats a dickhead minority in our support?
Cheers
Are you for real?
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
Cheers.
I wondered that too.
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I got pulled by the guy next to me for calling Bannan a useless Scottish something or other. I'm fairly certain I didn't swear either. But the guy asked me what a players nationality had to do with him being useless in a quite strong Scottish accent! I instantly apologised to him as I didn't want to cause offence to a fellow fan.
I was also otherwise occupied to have a long debate with someone about Scotland's current standing in the world of footy and how being described as Scottish says more eloquently than any four letter word the quality of Bannans performance, not even withstanding his actual place of birth.
Based on that do we describe our team as Scottish? Understand what you are trying to say but the man was right in pulling you up on that. We should use strong adjectives by all means but nationality should be no no. No one nation has dominance on great or crap!
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There are dickheads everywhere. Not that it makes it Ok.
I had a half season ticket in the lower holte once, row J.
We played Arsenal around Xmas time and this older dude (late 50's) spent the whole game calling every black Arsenal player a "golly wog" or a "nig nog". I called the club and they moved my ticket. Don't know if anything was done about the bloke. Generally a few of the people around him thought it was funny.
did you report it and point him out?
I moved seats during the game, then phoned the club after the game. Wish I had now to be honest :(
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Was surprised at the number of Villa supporters still filling the stairwell trying to get in a good 10 minutes into the game - Hillsborough crossed my mind!
Bloke in front of me hurled abuse at the Villa fans around him throughout the game - pissed as a fart - also hurling abuse at our own players. Struggled to understand why he was doing this right from the start.
Also, mate further across our stand said he saw at least 2 fights between Villa supporters underneath the stand BEFORE the game!
Not witnessed it as bad as this for a long long time!
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Things I didn't like about the behaviour of some of our fans:
Not listening to friendly stewards and insisting on doing their own thing and thus causing problems.
Pissing in wash basins. Not one or two but queues.
Unrepeatable Derogatory insults towards locals about being from Bradford.
Breaking seats.
However most of our fans were fantastic and good humoured.
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Isn't that in the Bradford end?
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It will be worse at the Albion.
You get it when there is large away support and a lot of alcohol.
I thought we sounded fantastic but there was a moody atmosphere. It was kicking off with the locals on the way in.
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It will be worse at the Albion.
You get it when there is large away support and a lot of alcohol.
I thought we sounded fantastic but there was a moody atmosphere. It was kicking off with the locals on the way in.
I can't understand West Midlands finest allowing us to play at the Hawthorns at 5:30.
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The Albion match might have a few more problems this year. Relative position of the teams, likely result, 5:30pm kick off on a Saturday....
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WMP love a good brawl.
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WMP love a good brawl.
True and plenty of overtime!
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Who are these wankers that follow our club away from home. Pissed up and clueless twats, smashing seats and swearing at stewards will get you only one thing, a bad fucking name. You need to grow up and get a life, nothing but bloody scum. I had 14 great years home and away, every game following Villa and very rarely had the misfortune to see this sort of shite. In my time it was a few beers and enjoy the game. Anybody who smashed stuff up lastnight should be ashamed of themselves.
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WBA on 19th could be very messy what with that ridiculous KO time, who came up with that bright idea ?
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WBA on 19th could be very messy what with that ridiculous KO time, who came up with that bright idea ?
The money men!
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
It's understandable. He's only up to the Ladybird 'Peter and Jane' 3b.
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There are dickheads everywhere. Not that it makes it Ok.
I had a half season ticket in the lower holte once, row J.
We played Arsenal around Xmas time and this older dude (late 50's) spent the whole game calling every black Arsenal player a "golly wog" or a "nig nog". I called the club and they moved my ticket. Don't know if anything was done about the bloke. Generally a few of the people around him thought it was funny.
He is now in his 60s and running race relations at Chelsea FC.
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The supporters that caused the damage, were fighting and hurling abuse are season ticket holders that have attended previous away games this season. I got my ticket on the first day of general season ticket sale without an away game history. There were 180 tickets left at that point and they sold out by 09:15 on that day. We were seated in G block, arrived at the ground at about 6.30 had a couple of pints and made our way very comfortably upto the seat at gone 7.30. No hassle no crush. There was the usual posturing between the two groups of fans but nothing serious. I left straight after the game before the little bit of trouble out by the coaches. Saw nothing of what other people have reported as dangerous situations.
Went to the toilet at the end of half time and you couldn't see the wall because of the smoke and the crush was because people were having a fag and snorting drugs whilst blocking access to the urinals. The funny thing was, with the atmosphere thick with smoke like a Friday night in a seventies pub bar, a steward walks in and asks if anyone has been smoking.
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However most of our fans were fantastic and good humoured.
That's better. Can't be doing with wasting time on our scumbag minority.
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We were in Block C and there were no issues, the odd bit of bad language and of course the utter frustration but nobody seemed to be overly drunk or overly annoying.
People are right though, big allocation for a Cup away game and we attract a small minority of utter dickheads who seem to think getting smashed and paralytic and giving it large is "a top day/night out".
I had to laugh ta that lot who got thrown out of the Queens by the station though, we turned up as thye were being loaded onto a single decker bus by Plod and they were all jumping up and down so much I thought the axles would break. Onlooking Plod were pissing themselves laughing.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
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will get you only one thing, a bad fucking name.
yeah, lets leave that to the players.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
Bennett did applaud the fans, along with Lowton.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
Bennett did applaud the fans, along with Lowton.
He did indeed and as posted earlier he got a lot of abuse but kept on applauding. Fair play to him for that.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
Bennett did applaud the fans, along with Lowton.
He did indeed and as posted earlier he got a lot of abuse but kept on applauding. Fair play to him for that.
He should have been handing them money after that performance he was truly awful, in fact one of the worst individual performances I have seen by a Villa player-useless
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Very moody both inside and after the game by the coaches last night. Flares were cracked off and thrown at Police cordon at the top end by the coaches. That was the way that I was going back to my car.
Police held off for a long time, but was only a matter of time before they had a go back
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He's 22 years old. In essence he's an inexperienced young man who has gone up a division, in a new team, new players who at the moment are suffering badly. Quite what 'supporters' are doing giving him dog's abuse during a cup semi-final is anyone's guess.
We can't expect players like Bennett to be amazing, the problem is that he doesn't have anyone around him to encourage him; that his own 'supporters' turn on him is bizarre.
Think about when you were 22. How would you have coped? And before anyone throws the money/wages yhing about, it's irrelevant. Blame the manager for picking him, blame the owner but please leave the kid alone.
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I don't agree with people breaking seats and fighting but in my opinion after the performance of some of the players last night they deserved some of the stick that came there way. Ok granted people shouldn't bring been Scottish in to it etc because that has nothing to do with it but stick for the abysmal show put in by certain players deserved stick.
I think it was just a hugely frustrating night for the fans and some people show there passion in different ways to other's.
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Looking forward to the home leg as I'm escorting my Bradford City supporting mate and about 8 other Bantams from her house in Northfield to VP via the train. Dread to think what they'd have to put up with on the journey home if they do beat us.I'm beginning to get a little worried.
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He's 22 years old. In essence he's an inexperienced young man who has gone up a division, in a new team, new players who at the moment are suffering badly. Quite what 'supporters' are doing giving him dog's abuse during a cup semi-final is anyone's guess.
We can't expect players like Bennett to be amazing, the problem is that he doesn't have anyone around him to encourage him; that his own 'supporters' turn on him is bizarre.
Think about when you were 22. How would you have coped? And before anyone throws the money/wages yhing about, it's irrelevant. Blame the manager for picking him, blame the owner but please leave the kid alone.
Have to agree with this. Bennett in particular was shocking the other night but he's a young player out of his depth.
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He's 22 years old. In essence he's an inexperienced young man who has gone up a division, in a new team, new players who at the moment are suffering badly. Quite what 'supporters' are doing giving him dog's abuse during a cup semi-final is anyone's guess.
We can't expect players like Bennett to be amazing, the problem is that he doesn't have anyone around him to encourage him; that his own 'supporters' turn on him is bizarre.
Think about when you were 22. How would you have coped? And before anyone throws the money/wages yhing about, it's irrelevant. Blame the manager for picking him, blame the owner but please leave the kid alone.
Have to agree with this. Bennett in particular was shocking the other night but he's a young player out of his depth.
I think this is a really good point Drummond.
After the game Dean Saunders was saying how the full backs are probably getting not guidance from the cb's as they are so young themselves and too busy concentrating on their own game. He used Dennis Irwin as an example of this, saying that he played agianst him in one of his early games and Pallister and Bruce were on at him all game to sit back and not bomb forward, closing off the space that Saunders were looking to run into.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
Bennett did applaud the fans, along with Lowton.
He did indeed and as posted earlier he got a lot of abuse but kept on applauding. Fair play to him for that.
Also fair play to him for going on twitter and apologising for his display , whereas Lowton posted pics of himself baking cakes with his daughter and not a mention of the previous nights surrender.
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Looking forward to the home leg as I'm escorting my Bradford City supporting mate and about 8 other Bantams from her house in Northfield to VP via the train. Dread to think what they'd have to put up with on the journey home if they do beat us.I'm beginning to get a little worried.
I would suggest that they stop in the ground for a bit.
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He's 22 years old. In essence he's an inexperienced young man who has gone up a division, in a new team, new players who at the moment are suffering badly. Quite what 'supporters' are doing giving him dog's abuse during a cup semi-final is anyone's guess.
We can't expect players like Bennett to be amazing, the problem is that he doesn't have anyone around him to encourage him; that his own 'supporters' turn on him is bizarre.
Think about when you were 22. How would you have coped? And before anyone throws the money/wages yhing about, it's irrelevant. Blame the manager for picking him, blame the owner but please leave the kid alone.
Have to agree with this. Bennett in particular was shocking the other night but he's a young player out of his depth.
His performance was appalling. But it did look as though his confidence was shot. I hadn't considered that fans abuse night have been making it worse?
I don't go to many games any more and hats off to people who spend much more time and money than me following the side. Generally I think the away fans are incredibly vocal. But when you go into the pub before an away game there are clearly a few R-tards knocking about. Men of about 40 still acting like a 14 year old dickhead with all the humour and class of a pile of vomit.
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I don't go to many games any more and hats off to people who spend much more time and money than me following the side. Generally I think the away fans are incredibly vocal. But when you go into the pub before an away game there are clearly a few R-tards knocking about. Men of about 40 still acting like a 14 year old dickhead with all the humour and class of a pile of vomit.
Always best to avoid the 'away' pubs. We always have a per-arranged watering hole far from the madding crowd.
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I don't go to many games any more and hats off to people who spend much more time and money than me following the side. Generally I think the away fans are incredibly vocal. But when you go into the pub before an away game there are clearly a few R-tards knocking about. Men of about 40 still acting like a 14 year old dickhead with all the humour and class of a pile of vomit.
Always best to avoid the 'away' pubs. We always have a per-arranged watering hole far from the madding crowd.
I was going to type something similar. Independent coaches normally take you to a pub en route. You get to have a pint of beer in a glass and you get to know the people on the coach you go with. Places like Fulham are fine because there's plenty of pubs to choose from and in fairness the Walkabout at QPR is normally good. Places like The Arkles can be a nightmare.
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I went to Prague in 2008 to watch Villa. So many of our fans were morons. I will not ever watch Villa away in Europe again.
One prick decided to light a flare and throw it into a bunch of fellow Villa fans, why he's lighting a flare and throwing it anyway makes him an idiot, but to throw it into a group of fans, is idiotic.
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I pretty much never do aways these days. In fact, I haven't done one for at least 3 years now, but when I used to do them more frequently, I would always make a point of drinking away from the ground.
Pub selection criteria would be based on whether the pub was a good one, rather than proximity and whether it'd be "full of Villa".
As a youth, i was probably a bit different, mind, but I certainly never got the urge to throw beer everywhere, start fights, or act like a nauseating sociopath, which seems to happen at away days still.
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There are some twats who go to away games ang get all lairy throwing abuse at locals. Singing "so and so's a shithole I wanna go home" - quite frankly singing that at places like Fulham is just embarrassing
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We should really sing "Aston's a shithole, I want to go home"
Also, when in Sheffield in 2011 for the FA Cup game, the Villa fans were singing "Sheffield's full of Paki's, I wana go home"....
Not good.
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I went to Prague in 2008 to watch Villa. So many of our fans were morons. I will not ever watch Villa away in Europe again.
One prick decided to light a flare and throw it into a bunch of fellow Villa fans, why he's lighting a flare and throwing it anyway makes him an idiot, but to throw it into a group of fans, is idiotic.
At least before the game 'all the Villa' corralled themselves into one pub. That left exploring the city to be more pleasant by far.
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We should really sing "Aston's a shithole, I want to go home"
Also, when in Sheffield in 2011 for the FA Cup game, the Villa fans were singing "Sheffield's full of Paki's, I wana go home"....
Not good.
I remember that. Couldn't believe it.
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The abuse Bennett got throughout the 2nd half down around us wouldnt have helped his performance, or confidence. Then at full-time the same people were giving him and Bannan abuse for not applauding fans who had spent the last 45 minutes laying into them.
The main reason i dont fancy us getting through in the 2nd leg is I can see our "supporters" turning on the team if we don't score early.
Bennett did applaud the fans, along with Lowton.
He did indeed and as posted earlier he got a lot of abuse but kept on applauding. Fair play to him for that.
Also fair play to him for going on twitter and apologising for his display , whereas Lowton posted pics of himself baking cakes with his daughter and not a mention of the previous nights surrender.
How dare he love spending time with his family!
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I don't go to many games any more and hats off to people who spend much more time and money than me following the side. Generally I think the away fans are incredibly vocal. But when you go into the pub before an away game there are clearly a few R-tards knocking about. Men of about 40 still acting like a 14 year old dickhead with all the humour and class of a pile of vomit.
Always best to avoid the 'away' pubs. We always have a per-arranged watering hole far from the madding crowd.
Sometimes a bit too far Pauline!!! ;-)
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It's true that all clubs have their morons, but what really gets me about our away support is the fighting amongst ourselves. I've read several people say this was happening on Tuesday night. I don't go away as regularly now but off the top of my head can recall scuffles between Villa fans this season at Southampton, last season at Swansea and 2 years ago at Man City. It's beyond pathetic.
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I'd say a lot of the idiotic behaviour is down to drink and cheap widely available cocaine.
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I'd say a lot of the idiotic behaviour is down to drink and cheap widely available cocaine.
Thats a very fair assumption. Certainly seemed the case at Norwich away, my last away game. Beer doesn't make you behave like the fellas in the row in front of me, no matter how much you've had
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I went to Prague in 2008 to watch Villa. So many of our fans were morons. I will not ever watch Villa away in Europe again.
One prick decided to light a flare and throw it into a bunch of fellow Villa fans, why he's lighting a flare and throwing it anyway makes him an idiot, but to throw it into a group of fans, is idiotic.
They weren't flares, they were blue smoke thingy's. One was put in Gerry Adams look-a-like street cleaner bin.
The only proper flare I can recall seeing was at SHA in the cup.
I love flares myself, I think they look fantastic. I remember the Manchester derby semi-final a few years ago, when Citeh turned off the light and the Yanited fans lit up a flare. It looked great.
Back to us, our fans were great in Prague. The trams on the way in were bouncing, probably literally. If you don't enjoy atmosphere's like that, then you've probably made the right decision to not bother in future. There was no agro with the locals, only the stewards who made the trench coat lot at Elland Road look placid.
Nobody condones moronic behavior and I guess it’s a subjective term, but come on, you cannot all be such delicate flowers? It’s about striking a balance. Stamford Bridge was a dire hole when it was moody and now it’s a bastion of wetwipes, Tarquins and Johnny-Come-Latelys in sedate sea of boring blue.
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I also hate the snobbery of this “full of Villa” business.
It seems to rash a term. I know what you’re getting at, Stone Island wannabees or perhaps worse, the real loons and nutters. But a good pub, a load of Villa supporters and an enjoyable pre-match experience are not mutually exclusive.
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The malevolence from some of our supporters was woeful .
Bloke next to me was constantly shouting at Bradford fans that he was going to slice them open and slash their throats.
How can someone get themselves so worked up about Bradford?
About football you mean. These people need to get a life! They're a complete embarrassment.
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MonXI has got it spot on. The behavior of some of our fans is fueled by a lot more than a few cans of Stella.
The glamour of snorting a line of two off a sink in the away end at Bradford..
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I went to Prague in 2008 to watch Villa. So many of our fans were morons. I will not ever watch Villa away in Europe again.
One prick decided to light a flare and throw it into a bunch of fellow Villa fans, why he's lighting a flare and throwing it anyway makes him an idiot, but to throw it into a group of fans, is idiotic.
At least before the game 'all the Villa' corralled themselves into one pub. That left exploring the city to be more pleasant by far.
You missed out on a good day. DBTW got on a phone box and lead some singing.
Not a hint of trouble, not a hint of abusing the locals, the street cleaner was brought beer in fact and anybody who (bizzarely) wanted to take a picture was met with a warm welcome.
Cheap beer and a mild November day; fantastic.
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I like Flares and smoke thingys and pubs that have an atmosphere before games. I'm going straight to Hell. I was in Prauge and I think things went Rather well considering there were over 3000 there.
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I like Flares and smoke thingys and pubs that have an atmosphere before games. I'm going straight to Hell.
Me too.
I think we're actually already dead though and currently occupying hell looking at recent events.
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
It's understandable. He's only up to the Ladybird 'Peter and Jane' 3b.
I notice there has been no response from the token H&V Danny Dyer 'naughty boy'
C'mon we're intrigued as to why you feel negatively impacting the experience of other fellow supporters and giving our club a bad name is acceptable?
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I like Flares and smoke thingys and pubs that have an atmosphere before games. I'm going straight to Hell.
Me too.
I think we're actually already dead though and currently occupying hell looking at recent events.
I'm in with you guys, we've got some idiots but people jump on us very quickly. Its almost as if they want us to have a Fulham style support
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
It's understandable. He's only up to the Ladybird 'Peter and Jane' 3b.
I notice there has been no response from the token H&V Danny Dyer 'naughty boy'
C'mon we're intrigued as to why you feel negatively impacting the experience of other fellow supporters and giving our club a bad name is acceptable?
You'll have to type slower than that Neil, he can't read that fast.
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I also hate the snobbery of this “full of Villa” business.
It seems to rash a term. I know what you’re getting at, Stone Island wannabees or perhaps worse, the real loons and nutters. But a good pub, a load of Villa supporters and an enjoyable pre-match experience are not mutually exclusive.
No they're not mutually exclusive, it's just a matter of personal taste.
I wouldn't choose a pub based on the fact lots of other Villa fans go there, whether it be Stone Island types or salt of the earth decent types, I'd choose it based on how good the pub's meant to be, maybe whether they do nice food, ales they have - that sort of thing, ie not snobbery, but a chance to go somewhere decent in a different city.
Oh, and the likelihood of being able to sit down and chat, too.
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I would just like to add my own experience of Tuesday night.
myself and two friends went to the game and parked in the city centre(£2.50 for 24 hours) we got there at 5.30pm and set off to look for a pub for a pint....we had taken a wrong turning and ended up away from the town so as we walked along a dimly light road we stopped at some offices and asked a couple of local reps of the office to give us directions to the ground or a nice pub to have a beer in.
He said jump in the car and I will show you as it will take awhile for you to walk it.
He dropped us off right outside the pub and said just walk down there for 10 mins and the ground is on your left, we thanked him and continued into the pub (the Bolton Arms) which was abit run down but the beer was great and the locals very easy to get on with.
we then got to the ground and it was very moody to say the least and when we finally got to our seats it was really uncomfortably full. we had a rather out of his skull fella about mid 40's shouting at us for not joining in with his "singing" and then having a go at us for leaving on the final whistle, he was shouting and generally acting a twat all the way through the game.
the toilets were left in a disgraceful condition at the end of the game and I was abit embarassed by the behaviour of some of our support.
I go to about 10 aways a year and generally our away support is fantastic, it is just a shame we have a small minority ready to trash the place and fight with other fellow fans....
PS: many thanks to the fella from Bradford for the lift as it was very much appreciated.
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We had a mini bus with 16 on from my supporters club. We arrived at a pub called the Fighting Cock and as we entered we were look at nervouslly, which I soon discovered was because a few Villa fans had been making a right pain of themselves moments earlier.
Anyway, they had gone and we spent a few hours talking football, beer and general life with the Bradford Fans, who I have to say were some of the most welcoming people I have ever met.
The walk to the game, the game, and walking back after the game were awful.
A lot of our fans disgraced themselves, Bradford deserved their bit of happiness, they deserved to be able to beep their horns and wave their scarves, they had won a semi final. Anyone who would react to that with abuse or violence probably shouldnt go to a football match.
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I also hate the snobbery of this “full of Villa” business.
It seems to rash a term. I know what you’re getting at, Stone Island wannabees or perhaps worse, the real loons and nutters. But a good pub, a load of Villa supporters and an enjoyable pre-match experience are not mutually exclusive.
Each to their own, Ads. There's no snobbery involved as far as we're concerned. We just like to meet up with friends, in a pub where we can get a seat, the chaps can enjoy their real ale and we can chat until our hearts are content.
Everyone can make their own decision on where they like to enjoy their pre and post match drink, after all, these days it's the only enjoyable part of the day.
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There's snobbery and inverse snobbery.
We made the snobbish decision to find a decent pub on the way to Bradford. A while later we arrived at the one we originally gave a miss to. Twenty seconds later all we can hear is the Tracy Andrews song. I reckon we were right first time. Each to his own.
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We had a mini bus with 16 on from my supporters club. We arrived at a pub called the Fighting Cock and as we entered we were look at nervouslly, which I soon discovered was because a few Villa fans had been making a right pain of themselves moments earlier.
Anyway, they had gone and we spent a few hours talking football, beer and general life with the Bradford Fans, who I have to say were some of the most welcoming people I have ever met.The walk to the game, the game, and walking back after the game were awful.
A lot of our fans disgraced themselves, Bradford deserved their bit of happiness, they deserved to be able to beep their horns and wave their scarves, they had won a semi final. Anyone who would react to that with abuse or violence probably shouldnt go to a football match.
indeed very helpful and welcoming.
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The Doc
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
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Like i said earlier, Walkabout down at QPR is a good example of how a pub full of Villa can be a enjoyable experience.
There's also nothing better than pulling into a town 10 or 15 miles from a ground and having a quiet drink knowing you won't have to wait 10 minutes to get served.
On our way back to the car on Tuesday, we had to walk through crowds of their fans and bearing in mind one mate of mine had a Villa jacket on, we did'nt get any hassle. They were far too happy to give us any stick.
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
Was that when we came back to win 3-2 under graham?
Remember how low I felt at half time and the relief of the 2 nd half.
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
Was that when we came back to win 3-2 under graham?
Remember how low I felt at half time and the relief of the 2 nd half.
It was that game. We only had about 200 seats, the rest standing, so we were in the middle of them. Without these lower league clubs there would be no football as we know it. To take it out on them by smashing the place up is a disgrace.
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
Was that when we came back to win 3-2 under graham?
Remember how low I felt at half time and the relief of the 2 nd half.
It was that game. We only had about 200 seats, the rest standing, so we were in the middle of them. Without these lower league clubs there would be no football as we know it. To take it out on them by smashing the place up is a disgrace.
Exactly, clubs at that level struggle to pay the bills and many make a loss , to smash their toilets , seats etc is really small time and sad , the story of someone taunting bradford fans with a lighter was shocking , I rarely travel away these days - I used to enjoy the whole day out and had meant great times under graham, and Ron especially but to be honest I don't miss it nowadays , the game is not what it once was .
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I think the expectation level adds to the atmosphere. We were all expecting to win on Tuesday and as such it didn't take long for the crowd to get on the players' backs. A lot of away games we're the underdog so there's more of a siege mentality which lends itself to unconditional support. The atmosphere on Tuesday had got so poisonous that it seemed like we didn't know how to celebrate when the goal went in.
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I think the expectation level adds to the atmosphere. We were all expecting to win on Tuesday and as such it didn't take long for the crowd to get on the players' backs. A lot of away games we're the underdog so there's more of a siege mentality which lends itself to unconditional support. The atmosphere on Tuesday had got so poisonous that it seemed like we didn't know how to celebrate when the goal went in.
absolutely Meanwood Villa
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I'd say a lot of the idiotic behaviour is down to drink and cheap widely available cocaine.
Thats a very fair assumption. Certainly seemed the case at Norwich away, my last away game. Beer doesn't make you behave like the fellas in the row in front of me, no matter how much you've had
It isn't the beer or drugs. It is their personality and what they deem to be acceptable behaviour. Millions of people drink and do drugs every weekend and don't behave like that.
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
I was in the Fighting Cock earlier in the afternoon. I'm amazed anyone could find it and that the sort of twats who enjoy playing up would want to be in there.
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Good post DBTW. If we had gone straight to Bradford, the Fighting Cock was on our agenda.
I remember that time when Crewe were beating us 2-0. Old blokes were throwing their caps in the air and I just thought they don't get much fun, let them enjoy it.
Was that when we came back to win 3-2 under graham?
Remember how low I felt at half time and the relief of the 2 nd half.
It was that game. We only had about 200 seats, the rest standing, so we were in the middle of them. Without these lower league clubs there would be no football as we know it. To take it out on them by smashing the place up is a disgrace.
Exactly, clubs at that level struggle to pay the bills and many make a loss , to smash their toilets , seats etc is really small time and sad , the story of someone taunting bradford fans with a lighter was shocking , I rarely travel away these days - I used to enjoy the whole day out and had meant great times under graham, and Ron especially but to be honest I don't miss it nowadays , the game is not what it once was .
You make it sound like it was whiter than white back in the day when it definitely wasn't. An idiot today is the same as an idiot back in the day singing to Cardiff supporters about what happened at Aberfan or Ipswich in the 70's singing to us about the IRA.
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There were also bad groups in the 70s without doubt and lots of trouble but the game was better back then in my opinion - I remember getting hit buy a bottle thrown from the back of the stand against man utd when I was only 10 , also I remember well dressed Chelsea fans in suits suddenly going berserk in the trinity road , yes there was trouble back then.
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Me and my Dad got pelted with a bottle of piss at Wembley in 1977. We were in the Everton end, mind, and I refused to hide my Villa scarf or shut up (i was 9 years old and stupid).
My dad got absolutely drenched in it, poor fecker. Think he had to bin the coat he was wearing.
Poor bloke, he doesn't even support us, he's a nose. Took one for the Villa.
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I'd say a lot of the idiotic behaviour is down to drink and cheap widely available cocaine.
Thats a very fair assumption. Certainly seemed the case at Norwich away, my last away game. Beer doesn't make you behave like the fellas in the row in front of me, no matter how much you've had
It isn't the beer or drugs. It is their personality and what they deem to be acceptable behaviour. Millions of people drink and do drugs every weekend and don't behave like that.
No were talking about a minority at games and a minority at pubs and clubs at the weekend that get hammered and start behaving like twats.
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Mindless morons that should have their ST revoked and be black-listed from obtaining tickets for away games.
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Be worth seeing how many of the knobheads giving it large at Bradford will be doing similarly at Millwall.
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I've seen that quoted a few times. How many will try it on at Millwall.
Now while the Millwall loons are a very hardy bunch, the New Den is packed full of the sort of wannabe hardmen who give it large to people perfectly safe in their little group, from an entirely different and seperate stand, safely behind the Met.
I would imagine that all the tits who engage in the hold me back antics will act exactly the same.
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Me and my Dad got pelted with a bottle of piss at Wembley in 1977. We were in the Everton end, mind, and I refused to hide my Villa scarf or shut up (i was 9 years old and stupid).
My dad got absolutely drenched in it, poor fecker. Think he had to bin the coat he was wearing.
Poor bloke, he doesn't even support us, he's a nose. Took one for the Villa.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ay29K.jpg)
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that as a general rule hooligans plan their activities in public.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that as a general rule hooligans plan their activities in public.
Watch Green Street for the real story about hooligans!
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
If ever the day comes that I'm put off going somewhere by threats on internet forums or twatter then I might as well stay in bed until I expire. And if I my kids were still young enough for me to decide where they go, then I wouldn't take them because Friday's a school day.
The scaremongering going on over this fixture is laughable.
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I haven't been to a football match since Coventry had tens of thousands in the Holte End, judging by what was said on the Internet before the game it must have been carnage.
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Mindless morons that should have their ST revoked and be black-listed from obtaining tickets for away games.
It's a nice idea but difficult to enforce when you've been directed to just go wherever by the stewards.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
If ever the day comes that I'm put off going somewhere by threats on internet forums or twatter then I might as well stay in bed until I expire. And if I my kids were still young enough for me to decide where they go, then I wouldn't take them because Friday's a school day.
The scaremongering going on over this fixture is laughable.
See you there.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
If ever the day comes that I'm put off going somewhere by threats on internet forums or twatter then I might as well stay in bed until I expire. And if I my kids were still young enough for me to decide where they go, then I wouldn't take them because Friday's a school day.
The scaremongering going on over this fixture is laughable.
See you there.
Yes, I'll be the one watching the game.
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http://www.claretandbanter.co.uk/threads/32467-Villa-Fans
We seem to dislike ourselves far more than others do.
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Me and my Dad got pelted with a bottle of piss at Wembley in 1977. We were in the Everton end, mind, and I refused to hide my Villa scarf or shut up (i was 9 years old and stupid).
My dad got absolutely drenched in it, poor fecker. Think he had to bin the coat he was wearing.
Poor bloke, he doesn't even support us, he's a nose. Took one for the Villa.
That's really made me chuckle.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that as a general rule hooligans plan their activities in public.
She has heard it all in her local boozer, frequented by a lot of Millwall arseholes.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that as a general rule hooligans plan their activities in public.
She has heard it all in her local boozer, frequented by a lot of Millwall arseholes.
I presume she has passed this information regarding serious criminal activity to her local police.
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that as a general rule hooligans plan their activities in public.
She has heard it all in her local boozer, frequented by a lot of Millwall arseholes.
I presume she has passed this information regarding serious criminal activity to her local police.
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All the bed wetting over Millwall is getting boring now. Nowt will happen and many of us won't see any Wall fans outside the ground.
And Lanza, I know for a fact that there not happy with the game on a Friday night so very much doubt they're "up for it"
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Do you honesty, honestly, think the Met would let this game go ahead on a winter Friday evening if they thought there was any possibility of problems? It's only a few years since they said any high-risk Millwall games had to kick off early enough for there to be two hours of light after the final whistle.
As L&P just put it, all this bedwetting is getting boring. It's also making us look very sad; we'd be pissing ourselves laughing if it was being said anywhere else.
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It will be even sadder if everyone asks, after the game, what was it like at Millwall.
Nobody will be want to know, will they?
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Do you honesty, honestly, think the Met would let this game go ahead on a winter Friday evening if they thought there was any possibility of problems? It's only a few years since they said any high-risk Millwall games had to kick off early enough for there to be two hours of light after the final whistle.
As L&P just put it, all this bedwetting is getting boring. It's also making us look very sad; we'd be pissing ourselves laughing if it was being said anywhere else.
Will be fun if we draw ;-)))
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Millwall are well up for trouble when we visit. Just take a look at their unofficial forum. They are already planning the shite. Rather you lads and lasses than me. Good luck. Not a nice place to go at all. I have a good female mate who is Millwall and she has txt me that the Millwall arseholes are going for it on the day we visit, big time. Just take care of any kids that go to that game, ffs.
Deleted my Millwall experience.
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I'm going, I have no intention of being involved in any violence and I do not believe there will be any (other than the usual skirmishs and dickheads shouting abuse but whats new).
(Looking at that as I read it back, is skirmishes even a word???)
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I'm going, I have no intention of being involved in any violence and I do not believe there will be any (other than the usual skirmishs and dickheads shouting abuse but whats new).
(Looking at that as I read it back, is skirmishes even a word???)
There won't be a skirmish, the police are well drilled and some say its the safest ground they've been too!
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I stopped reading after the first line
Why's that then? Please explain.
It's understandable. He's only up to the Ladybird 'Peter and Jane' 3b.
I notice there has been no response from the token H&V Danny Dyer 'naughty boy'
C'mon we're intrigued as to why you feel negatively impacting the experience of other fellow supporters and giving our club a bad name is acceptable?
I reckon it's going to be a really well written and reasonable response judging by the amount of time it's taking.
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Percy??
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fair play to the fans today, we really stuck by the team!