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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2013, 11:47:08 PM
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Despite the dreadfulness of this evening, despite the obvious weaknesses in the team, despite the fact that every appearance on television seems to result in us becoming the funniest thing on the box, despite all that, I still thnk we'll qualify.
What do YOU think?
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Yes. And we'll win the final.
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Not a chance in hell. I'm not even sure I want us to get there to be savaged by Chelsea again.
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Yes. And we'll win the final.
*gentle, rocking, mirthful outburst of laughter*
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Even if we do, it'll only be a brief respite before the players resume the National Laughing Stock Tour 2012/13 on February 24th.
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Voted yes then read the thread but still believe. It's Our Year. For both cups and staying up.
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If we put out the same side that we did tonight? No chance. We won't keep a clean sheet.
If Vlaar gets fit , we buy or loan an experienced central midfielder that isn't cup tied, we get a dollop of luck, an early goal and the ground rocking? Yeah sure, why not.
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It's more than possible, IF he organises the fucking defence. This is Bradford not bloody Barcelona. I think it will go to penalties and we may just scrape through.. Otherwise its curtains for hime and he only has himself to blame really.
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Get a bastard or two in on-loan or for keeps, put them in the spine of the team and we'll pwn the rest of our January opposition to pieces.
So with the above 4-1 win. If not, win 3-2, out on agg.
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No because I think they have players that are better than many of our players and who are prepared to work harder, they also look better organised.
We are really that bad.
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here goes Delph Bennett Bannan Clark Baker Nzogbia would not look out of place in the Bradford team, then add Benteke not giving a fuck, Gabby being in effective against 11 that have a game plan, want to complete and relish the opportunity. I have more empathy with Bradford than i do with our half arsed bunch of tossers
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More concerned about the league.
League cup is not important.
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More chance of a Gary Glitter comeback.
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Is it just me that finds all these 'Woe is me' threads pretty risible?
Get your arses down to Villa Park and roar the lads on to Wembley.
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Voted yes then read the thread but still believe. It's Our Year. For both cups and staying up.
It's been 'our year' for staying up for the best part of the last 30 years.
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Is it just me that finds all these 'Woe is me' threads pretty risible?
Get your arses down to Villa Park and roar the lads on to Wembley.
I'm looking at my ticket for the home leg and firmly believe we'll be heading to Wembley.
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Maybe it's 'our year' for going down. You just can't run a club in this amateurish manner and expect anything other than trouble.
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no good will come from it
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Yes I think we will the home leg 4-1
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I'll still be going to the home leg. If we get through, it'll be one of the great VP nights. If we don't, it's not like I wasn't expecting it. Besides, I spazzed out £60 on two tickets so they'll be getting an evening of my gobshite directed at them come what may.
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Depends how we defend TBH. We should be able to get the goals but whether we keep a clean sheet is another matter. Hopefully we will have a couple of new faces by the 2nd leg too.
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Yes, but only because by some miracle we'll improve defensively enough to squeak through. And by that I mean Guzan back in goal, possibly a signing, or as good, Vlaar returning. I expect it to be all guns blazing, and we will put away our chances. As shit as were overall, if we score one early to take away the mounting pressure we could score a hatful. Yes, I'm being optimistic, but Bradford will now be under pressure themselves to see the job through which is a tough ask away to a PL club even with a two goal lead.
But we need help there is no doubt and if the same starting goalkeepr, defence and midfield start the next leg, we're fucked.
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Yes we will.
If we can't score 2 at home in front of a packed Villa Park against an average team 3 tiers below us then we are seriously screwed. We're a team of many championship players but that still should be enough. In 3 weeks we should have something that resembles a defence too.
The hard way is our way, it should be our motto.
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Is it just me that finds all these 'Woe is me' threads pretty risible?
Get your arses down to Villa Park and roar the lads on to Wembley.
Starting to question why I should keep spending money on them to be honest.
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More concerned about the league.
League cup is not important.
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agreed but being knocked out by Bradford is only going to leave a huge dent in the confidence levels.
Also why are ppl so worried about being tonked in the final? Huge achievement to get there and good experience for the players.
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I reckon we will concede at Villa Park. We might even concede two. Having said that, I know we can win this tie.
I don't want to put the mockers on things and I never bet on Villa to win for fear of jinxing things but I'm curious to know what our odds are for winning the whole thing now. This is the type of scenario where I'd be throwing a speculative tenner on a club in Villa's position.
EDIT: PaddyPower have us at 6-1 to lift the trophy. Come on Villa!!
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What is the point, we will get spanked if we were to get there which we wont. Ji=ust hope that we can survive another year in the PL and that they will somehow get some players in to help us survive.
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Anything can happen in a final just ask the noses
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I feel wretched and fed up. I have a cold, I'm tired and everything is shit... yet I still think we'll win the tie somehow.
We just have to, well... not make a jobbing division 4 side look competent by merely playing sensible football.
By rights, if we stop mourning over our christmas nightmare and get on with it, we can hammer these lot into the dust. Never mind win 2-0.
By the way, are there really people asking what's the point of going to Wembley in a final?
Please...
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I feel wretched and fed up. I have a cold, I'm tired and everything is shit... yet I still think we'll win the tie somehow.
We just have to, well... not make a jobbing division 4 side look competent by merely playing sensible football.
By rights, if we stop mourning over our christmas nightmare and get on with it, we can hammer these lot into the dust. Never mind win 2-0.
By the way, are there really people asking what's the point of going to Wembley in a final?
Please...
Wel said that man.
We'll get through after one of those nights that comes along every 10 years or so.
It'll be worth all the angst. Winning will be so much sweeter.
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I feel wretched and fed up. I have a cold, I'm tired and everything is shit... yet I still think we'll win the tie somehow.
We just have to, well... not make a jobbing division 4 side look competent by merely playing sensible football.
By rights, if we stop mourning over our christmas nightmare and get on with it, we can hammer these lot into the dust. Never mind win 2-0.
By the way, are there really people asking what's the point of going to Wembley in a final?
Please...
Wel said that man.
We'll get through after one of those nights that comes along every 10 years or so.
We had one of those against Blackburn three years ago, are we due another already?
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Nope. I think we'll win the next leg by the odd goal or draw it in further humiliation, barring quite a substantial shift.
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Might well get to Wembley but it will only paper over the cracks. Total inept shower of shit. Fucking disgraceful performance by the team and the rabbit in the headlights on the bench.
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Yes. We will get to the FA Cup semi-final then lose 27-0 to Macclesfield.
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For the Championship playoffs next year? Maybe, if we invest we might have a shot at coming back up quickly.
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Don't see us getting through, sorry.
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We'll get through after one of those nights that comes along every 10 years or so.
It'll be worth all the angst. Winning will be so much sweeter.
I agree and perversely after all the angst it'll make us more likely to win it than if we strolled through the semi. Sometimes football's a bit bizarre like that.
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Even if we do, it'll only be a brief respite before the players resume the National Laughing Stock Tour 2012/13 on February 24th.
The 24th is the day after my 40th birthday. In a year of crushing disappointments when it comes to Villa, I really don't think I could take a dicking at the hands of Chelsea so soon after becoming over the hill.
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We will get to the final.
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Compared to the team of 94, the present lot and manager ate utter gash
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I think we'll have to score 5 on the night to do so....
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Tranmere '94. Go 2-0 early, extra time, woodwork saves us in the last minute and hopefully Guzan to save 3 pens. Believe!
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Compared to the team of 94, the present lot and manager ate utter gash
No McGrath, Townsend, Teale to rescue us this time afraid.
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Fuck Wembley. I don't want to see us laid bare once again for the world to laugh. And then hear the manager mumble about "going again" or some other such nonsense after spending most of the game staring into space from the bench while his team collapse like a house of cards on the pitch.
Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
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Fuck Wembley. I don't want to see us laid bare once again for the world to laugh. And then hear the manager mumble about "going again" or some other such nonsense after spending most of the game staring into space from the bench while his team collapse like a house of cards on the pitch.
Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
This
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Get to Wembley maybe , get thrashed at Wembley , definitely!
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Even if we do, it'll only be a brief respite before the players resume the National Laughing Stock Tour 2012/13 on February 24th.
As sad as it is i actually LOL'd at that
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Whether we get there or not, it was not part of the plan to get humiliated by Bradford City. Their supporters were coming out of pubs along the way to laugh at those on the huge convoy of coaches. I suppose the team coach sneaked by when all had quietened down. This performance will not be forgotten or forgiven merely by getting to another expensive day out at Wembley.
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Whether we get there or not, it was not part of the plan to get humiliated by Bradford City. Their supporters were coming out of pubs along the way to laugh at those on the huge convoy of coaches. I suppose the team coach sneaked by when all had quietened down. This performance will not be forgotten or forgiven merely by getting to another expensive day out at Wembley.
The only way to expunge it is to win it.
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Even if we do, it'll only be a brief respite before the players resume the National Laughing Stock Tour 2012/13 on February 24th.
For a few seconds after I woke up this morning, last night was forgotten. Then I heard some of the presenters on Radio 5. They could barely contain their excitement. However that doesn't detract from the shambles that Villa currently is. The optimist in me hopes we get to Wembley, and given we'd be the underdogs this is where I should feel we could even win. But I don't.
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My heart says yes but my head says no, our strikers have to be in inspired form, because we won't keep a clean sheet.
If we signed a defender in before the tie, providing he isn't cup tied would he be eligable? Or do you have to play in the previous rounds?
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I think we can overturning a 2 goal lead against Bradford is by no means impossible. However our manager needs to sort our joke of a defence and midfield out.
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Looking at the number of available seats on the seat selector thing on the OS, if you fancy going to the second leg but require the presence of no other human being to intrude on your grief within a 20 seat radius, you'll be fine.
There's not a prayer that match will sell out.
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Looking at the number of available seats on the seat selector thing on the OS, if you fancy going to the second leg but require the presence of no other human being to intrude on your grief within a 20 seat radius, you'll be fine.
There's not a prayer that match will sell out.
But they're giving everyone a free plastic flag! How could it possibly not sell out?!
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Yes.
3-1 FT
5-1 AET
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No we won't. That's all I have to say on the matter.
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Depends how we defend TBH. We should be able to get the goals but whether we keep a clean sheet is another matter. Hopefully we will have a couple of new faces by the 2nd leg too.
Are any new foreign signings ok to play? - all home players would be cup-tied?
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No we won't. That's all I have to say on the matter.
Anyone else read that in the Forest gump "and thats all I have to say about that" tone?
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Looking at the number of available seats on the seat selector thing on the OS, if you fancy going to the second leg but require the presence of no other human being to intrude on your grief within a 20 seat radius, you'll be fine.
There's not a prayer that match will sell out.
I'm a season-ticket holder in the Lower DE. I purchased my seat for the 2nd Leg over the phone yesterday (wish I hadn't bothered!) - at £39.00 + £2.00 rip-off booking fee. £41.00 is steep and mine isn't in the best seats. I might ask for a refund!
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I voted yes in the basis that any PL side, however inept, ought to be capable of winning by 2 or 3 against a 4th division team at home if they really want to.
Whether that would ultimately be a good thing or not is another matter, as I think we've suffered enough public humiliation for one season.
It also ignores the fact that our defence has not played to PL standard, or even championship standard, for the bulk of the last 5 games.
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Fuck Wembley. I don't want to see us laid bare once again for the world to laugh. And then hear the manager mumble about "going again" or some other such nonsense after spending most of the game staring into space from the bench while his team collapse like a house of cards on the pitch.
Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
On the plus side, if we did get through and we carried on playing like headless chickens, it would be highly unlikely Lambert would still be in charge by then. Every cloud......
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Looking at the number of available seats on the seat selector thing on the OS, if you fancy going to the second leg but require the presence of no other human being to intrude on your grief within a 20 seat radius, you'll be fine.
There's not a prayer that match will sell out.
Ive got a ticket for the 2nd leg, but i dont think ive got the heart to go,,,plus like last nite i would have to watch it sober, after last nights experience that thought is a terrifying prospect!
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I have just booked 3 tickets for upper Holte K4 for the 2nd leg. We need to to have a full house and get the place rocking to do our bit and encourage the players. It's very do-able and a half full stadium will look like we have given up. Aston Villa never do it the easy way as we are all well aware.
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I have just booked 3 tickets for upper Holte K4 for the 2nd leg. We need to to have a full house and get the place rocking to do our bit and encourage the players. It's very do-able and a half full stadium will look like we have given up. Aston Villa never do it the easy way as we are all well aware.
I'm in the lower north, we need everyone there to be vocal and get the place absolutely rocking
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We've clawed back a 2 goal deficit before and I fully expect we will do the same against these in the 2nd leg.
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I think we'll win the second leg comfortably. I mean we cannot be so ill prepared and piss poor against this level of opponent again (can we?). For Bradford to do it again would be asking a lot. Fair play to them though, they pulled our pants down to reveal our adolescent pubeless twig and berries for the world to laugh at.
If we don't make our wembley humbling, there'll be hell to pay.
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Ok you have convinced me, il be there!
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I'm flying back from the colonies for this, I need my bumps feeling.
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I would like someone from the club to actually come out and either say or do something positive, if for nothing else but to give the supporters back some self belief. The club is in self induced meltdown!
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Tricky one this.....would love to repeat the Tranmere game which was one of the best VP nights ever......but then I'd expect to play Chelsea in the final which instantly reminds me of the 2000 cup final which was a horrible day. Not sure I could stand another show piece humiliation......... or come to think of it another humiliation of any sort this season after the ones we have already suffered.
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Full house at Villa Park, crowd rocking, early goal from the Claret & Blue. Yep, I'm keeping the faith.
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Anyone who's concerned about being 'humiliated' at Wembley by Chelsea needs to get their head straight, it will be no where near as bad as going out to fucking fourth division Bradford
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Tricky one this.....would love to repeat the Tranmere game which was one of the best VP nights ever......but then I'd expect to play Chelsea in the final which instantly reminds me of the 2000 cup final which was a horrible day.
Or maybe a repeat of the 1994 League Cup Final? Nobody expected us to win that one either.
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Tricky one this.....would love to repeat the Tranmere game which was one of the best VP nights ever......but then I'd expect to play Chelsea in the final which instantly reminds me of the 2000 cup final which was a horrible day.
Or maybe a repeat of the 1994 League Cup Final? Nobody expected us to win that one either.
I most certainly did. And back then we had the not inconsiderable advantage of some great players and - on his day - a great manager. Bring back Big Ron.
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Tranmere '94. Go 2-0 early, extra time, woodwork saves us in the last minute and hopefully Guzan to save 3 pens. Believe!
If the away goals count, which i am sure they do, a 2-0 win at home will see us to wembley, no need for Guzan penalty saves.
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The big difference between the team from a few years ago that beat Tranmere and Man Utd was that that team had character, desire, passion, belief and leadership. The current team has absolutely no leadership. Come to think of it, there is no leadership from the top of the club to the bottom.
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Anyone who's concerned about being 'humiliated' at Wembley by Chelsea needs to get their head straight, it will be no where near as bad as going out to fucking fourth division Bradford
Exactly. Its ridiculous.
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Just about.
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Tricky one this.....would love to repeat the Tranmere game which was one of the best VP nights ever......but then I'd expect to play Chelsea in the final which instantly reminds me of the 2000 cup final which was a horrible day.
Or maybe a repeat of the 1994 League Cup Final? Nobody expected us to win that one either.
I most certainly did. And back then we had the not inconsiderable advantage of some great players and - on his day - a great manager. Bring back Big Ron.
If Bradford can beat Arsenal and us, we can beat Chelsea or Swansea in a packed Wembley. An absolute joke that you're scared to be in a final - it's what football is all about.
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4-1 to us and another special Villa Park night to remember!
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4-1 to us and another special Villa Park night to remember!
Hope springs eternal - hopefully we'll only let the one in. I'd feel lots better about the second leg if we got a left back, central defender and two midfielders.
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The big difference between the team from a few years ago that beat Tranmere and Man Utd was that that team had character, desire, passion, belief and leadership. The current team has absolutely no leadership. Come to think of it, there is no leadership from the top of the club to the bottom.
Maybe you're right. On the other hand, imagine what this forum would have been like the morning after the first leg at Tranmere.
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Not a fucking prayer with this defence. They're the worst back line I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. There's no chance they'll keep a clean sheet in a pressure game like the second leg.
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Tricky one this.....would love to repeat the Tranmere game which was one of the best VP nights ever......but then I'd expect to play Chelsea in the final which instantly reminds me of the 2000 cup final which was a horrible day.
Or maybe a repeat of the 1994 League Cup Final? Nobody expected us to win that one either.
I most certainly did. And back then we had the not inconsiderable advantage of some great players and - on his day - a great manager. Bring back Big Ron.
If Bradford can beat Arsenal and us, we can beat Chelsea or Swansea in a packed Wembley. An absolute joke that you're scared to be in a final - it's what football is all about.
... we won't make it to Wembley!
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The big difference between the team from a few years ago that beat Tranmere and Man Utd was that that team had character, desire, passion, belief and leadership. The current team has absolutely no leadership. Come to think of it, there is no leadership from the top of the club to the bottom.
Comparing the current team to that team has made me even more depressed than I was already. Ironically, two of the more unsung players from that team would be just what we need right now. If only we could stick an 'at their peak' Shaun Teale and Kevin Richardson into our team.
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First goal is key. I cannot see their goal leading quite as charmed a night, nor our forwards being quite so profligate.
I think we’re capable of scoring four or five against them, I am just not convinced we will do it and have voted no.
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For some reason I think we'll probably get to the final and stay up this season. I can't really explain why.
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For some reason I think we'll probably get to the final and stay up this season. I can't really explain why.
Absynth?
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For some reason I think we'll probably get to the final and stay up this season. I can't really explain why.
Absynth?
Well it does make the heart grow fonder.
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Not a fucking prayer with this defence. They're the worst back line I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. There's no chance they'll keep a clean sheet in a pressure game like the second leg.
The pressure is on Bradford and they will crumble.
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Not a fucking prayer with this defence. They're the worst back line I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. There's no chance they'll keep a clean sheet in a pressure game like the second leg.
The pressure is on Bradford and they will crumble.
I'm hoping this.They are going to be hyped up to the max prior to this game.I can see us giving them a hiding
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the truth is we should have 3 or 4 up before they got their first and as has happened a number of times this season our heads went. If we create anything close to the same amount of chances again in the second leg, with what should be a full Villa Park, then I cannot believe the same thing will happen again. Bradford made the most of a perfect storm and fair play to them. But we have every chance of given them a real beating if we just convert our chances. We can do this and I believe we will.
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I think we'll do it, then again I thought we'd win the first leg.
Bradford played without pressure last night, they were the underdogs and had nothing to lose. Now they can taste Wembley and there is most certainly something to lose.
We surely can't miss as many chances again and if we get one back and lift the crowd I reckon we'll score a few.
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Im quite positive we will win 4-1 or possibily come out on top in extra time. Having said that I think we are all starting to lose patience with our manager. He is not an inspirational character is he.? Doesnt seem to be tactically aware and forward thinking as we all thought he would be.
In short a huge dissapointment.
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As bad as it was last night, I’m convinced we’ll turn it around in the home leg. There is now a weight of expectation on a group of 4th Div players that they will never have experienced before. If we come out of the blocks firing on all cylinders (as I’m sure we will) and get an early goal, I think we’ll go on to win by a good margin.
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He might not be inspirational in his interviews but he is impressively calm. It's obviously not transmitting itself to the players but it's still impressive that he doesn't appear rattled.
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He might not be inspirational in his interviews but he is impressively calm. It's obviously not transmitting itself to the players but it's still impressive that he doesn't appear rattled.
I think the term is ''shellshocked'' that would account him for looking numb!
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I still reckon we will go through. I can see us beating them comfortably on the night and not even needing extra time. Saying that, Benteke allowing their player to have a free header after we had just reduced the deficit has made things a lot harder.
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He might not be inspirational in his interviews but he is impressively calm. It's obviously not transmitting itself to the players but it's still impressive that he doesn't appear rattled.
I think the term is ''shellshocked'' that would account him for looking numb!
That probably would explain it but I guess i'm hoping it's some sort of inner belief because the more obvious alternative is too depressing/worrying.
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He might not be inspirational in his interviews but he is impressively calm. It's obviously not transmitting itself to the players but it's still impressive that he doesn't appear rattled.
David O'Leary never looked rattled.Always looked impressivley calm!
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If you offered me at the start of the season a semi-final against a division four team who have a two-goal start, I'd have snapped your hand off. Not quite so confident about it now though.
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Yes but can see us getting humiliated in the final against Chelsea
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Yes but can see us getting humiliated in the final against Chelsea
I'd rather get some pride back against Bradford and take the risk.It's nothing different to what everyone will be expecting
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Not a fucking prayer with this defence. They're the worst back line I've ever seen in a Villa shirt. There's no chance they'll keep a clean sheet in a pressure game like the second leg.
The pressure is on Bradford and they will crumble.
I'm hoping this.They are going to be hyped up to the max prior to this game.I can see us giving them a hiding
I really admire your optimism folks but it simply won't happen. At 2-1 maybe, but we aren't good enough to give any team at all a two goal start and come through.
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I just don't fancy us to keep a clean sheet against anyone.
This Saturday would be a nice place to start though lads.
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No. I'm sure we'll score some goals but i'm also certain we'll let a few in. 4-2 and going out on away goals
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I know that rationally we could make it through to Wembley but I've given up hoping for the best this season. It almost seems that whatever the unthinkable nightmare scenario is, then that's what will happen.
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I think we will win 7-4 and go though 8-7 win and then beat Chelsea 8-0 in the Final. (LOL)
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We might well do, but that doesn't change the fact we were defensively undone by a team from League 2. If that doesn't send alarm bells to the management and board I don't know what will.
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No. I'm sure we'll score some goals but i'm also certain we'll let a few in. 4-2 and going out on away goals
Away goals dont count ;)
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No. I'm sure we'll score some goals but i'm also certain we'll let a few in. 4-2 and going out on away goals
Away goals dont count ;)
apparently they do after extra time
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No. I'm sure we'll score some goals but i'm also certain we'll let a few in. 4-2 and going out on away goals
Away goals dont count ;)
apparently they do after extra time
Yeah just checked your correct.
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A 2-0 win home to a 4th division side really shouldn't be beyond us. Sadly they have that lead to defend and we ain't great breaking down anyone looking for a draw.
Nah, fuck it. I've had 24 hours to get over last night. We're gonna do it!
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A 2-0 win home to a 4th division side really shouldn't be beyond us. Sadly they have that lead to defend and we ain't great breaking down anyone looking for a draw.
Nah, fuck it. I've had 24 hours to get over last night. We're gonna do it!
Last night they had nothing to lose they come to Villa Park with a once in a life time chance of getting to Wembley. They have everything to lose now and that will heap an enormous amount of pressure on them
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We have three players quite capable of scoring goals Weimann, Bent and Benteke and a good outside bet N'Zogbia.
and in two weeks time they will!
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..........................of course we will go through. They won 3-1 :- their man of the match - The Goalie, what does that say. He will not have two games like that. If he had that level of consistency he wouldn't be in Div 4. Bradford will try to defend and that will be their downfall. We have to come out all guns blazing!
We will win we are Villa! Get behind the lads even though it may seem hard.
New beginnings always have a few dark clouds . We have been there before and there were many times when it was worse than this. This season is the culmination of the last few Seasons.
We are only a couple or three players short
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I still think we'll go through as well. We've done it before and we'll do it again.
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We can do it!get at them and get an early goal,could be a great night! Them get some quality in then before the final comes around
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I reckon we'll win the second leg, but since I can't see any way we'll keep a clean sheet, the likelihood of us getting the three goal margin to go through is unlikely.
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No. I'm sure we'll score some goals but i'm also certain we'll let a few in. 4-2 and going out on away goals
Away goals dont count ;)
I thought they counted as one goal, like all other goals. ;)
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Good grief this is amazing, when have we ever been any good at breaking down teams who come to defend... just dream on lads!
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The first goal will be key in the 2nd leg, I think bradford will play a tight game and try and hold onto what they have , if I was a betting man I'd say villa will go through to Wembley but last night underlined the fact of how poor we are , and a Wembley trip will only paper over the cracks - we are in trouble .
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do we deserve to go through? on effort and play not really
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We need to win by two clear goals, possibly three. With the current defense thats going to be difficult.
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I have genuine concerns about being hit on the break. I absolutely think we can score at least twice against Bradford at home, but I do think we'll be exposed at the back to the counter.
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I have genuine concerns about being hit on the break. I absolutely think we can score at least twice against Bradford at home, but I do think we'll be exposed at the back to the counter.
And how sad is that? that is the state we're in. We're worried about being hit on the break by Bradford, and I completely agree by the way.
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Theres always hope, then I look at the team sheet
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TalkSport saying the bookies still have us as favourites to go through.
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My own prediction of what will happen is a 1-1 draw. We will be as nervous as kittens and get a late goal. We will then throw everything at them in the closing minutes to get a second and they will hit us on the break in the 93rd minute. I wish I could see it some other way but I can't. I would not be in the least surprised to see us pick up a red card at some point.
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Think we'll win 2-1 and go out.
We just don't score enough goals and are all but guaranteed to concede. Just can't see it coming off,
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Can any new signings we make play in the return leg? Or do they have to be registered before the first match?
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I think we'll batter Bradford at home. Villa Park will be rocking like it was against Tranmere in 1994. Bradford won't know what time of day it is.
Then we can start thinking about being humiliated in the Final.
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I think we'll batter Bradford at home. Villa Park will be rocking like it was against Tranmere in 1994. Bradford won't know what time of day it is.
Then we can start thinking about being humiliated in the Final.
Agreed here, it should be an immense atmosphere and there will only be a sprinkling of players on the pitch who will have played in that sort of game. Hopefully that won't be a hindrance to our youngsters as well!
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I think last night is all par for the course now other than for followers of clubs owned by oligarchs.
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4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
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4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
But it would get us to a Cup Final which could give the club a lift. That's another way of looking at it.
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4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
So thats me and you for 4-1 Eastie. Anyone care to join us?
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I'll go for 3 - 0!
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4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
But it would get us to a Cup Final which could give the club a lift. That's another way of looking at it.
Just seen Swansea are winning at chelski which would make it more interesting - the prospect of Swansea at Wembley would be mouth watering - Chelsea not so!
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4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
4-1 villa win to paper over the cracks.
But it would get us to a Cup Final which could give the club a lift. That's another way of looking at it.
Just seen Swansea are winning at chelski which would make it more interesting - the prospect of Swansea at Wembley would be mouth watering - Chelsea not so!
Chelsea played them off the pitch then Ivanovic made an error and Micho scored a very well taken goal. Swansea playing well in the second half.
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
I think this will induce a different type of numbness.
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
Don't you mean 1986?
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
Don't you mean 1986?
Sorry, yes. Everton was 84, wasn't it. Another depressing one.
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Although not confident, probably yes and in a bit of drab game with a fifteen minute flury. 4-1 is about right.
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We won't keep a clean sheet in the home leg.
Somehow we scored 4 against Citeh and Norwich and 3 against Swindon.
It's going to be an interesting game that's for sure.
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
Don't you mean 1986?
Sorry, yes. Everton was 84, wasn't it. Another depressing one.
Was that when Kevin Richardson handballed it on the line and got away with it?
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Whatever happens in the second leg, I doubt it could ever, ever turn out as depressing as the second leg at Oxford in 1984.
Can't remember many more depressing football-related experiences, if any, in fact.
Don't you mean 1986?
Sorry, yes. Everton was 84, wasn't it. Another depressing one.
Was that when Kevin Richardson handballed it on the line and got away with it?
Yep.
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Yes we bloody will and we will do it in style.
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I just want to see the bastards have a f*cking good go. They'd better be on it from minute one.
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Swansea win 2-0 at Chelsea , what an incentive now - silverware and Europe tantalisingly close!
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Swansea win 2-0 at Chelsea , what an incentive now - silverware and Europe tantalisingly close!
Yep, if the players can't get themselves up for Leg 2 then nothing will ever get them up .
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Wasn't a place in the final incentive enough before then? Knowing our bunch of slackers, probably not.
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Although Bradford have 3 goals and we have 1, that's still a long way to go at this stage of the tie.
Do you want to be against us?
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Yes we bloody well will.
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I wonder if every media outlet will talk like Chelsea are already out & Swansea are already on their way to Wembley tomorrow?
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My heart says we will smash them; my head, based on last night's showing and current form tells me something different.
I am confident we'll win the second leg but not sure it'll be by enough to take us through
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I think we'll win the second leg but I don't think we'll do enough to go through. Just don't have any confidence in this team any more.
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I still believe this 110%
Yes. And we'll win the final.
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If we could get a goal in the first 10 mins or so it could put the shits up them and anything will be possible. If we fuck about for 20mins + missing chances like last night they will gain confidence and it could turn out to be another frustrating evening. As always, it will come down to taking chances because I have no doubt we will create enough to make it to the final.
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It makes Lamberts decision to go all out attack last night even more baffling... Swansea played it bang on tonight.
We can still do it and if we do it will be a classic, I just can't see it with our midfield.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
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I'm tempted to say glorious failure, this reminds me a bit of the Bolton semi when we were inept in the first leg and left too much to do for the second leg and just fell short.
Mind you I'm not sure you can call it a glorious failure when you're getting knocked out by a league two team.
I still think we have a chance tbh. Depends how Bradford play it. I imagine they'll sit back so surely we'll be on the front foot and will have most of the possession and chances in the first half. If we can go 1-0 up at half time Villa Park will be believing again.
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Have have seen nothing to indicate this team or manager have any fight in them when things go against them. Sorry, I want to believe but I havent seen it.
I give them credit for getting us this far in the cup, but since Chelsea destroyed us we have had a defeatist attitude and I have no belief that will change any time soon.
Sorry :(
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I think we're a shoe in for Wembley.
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It makes Lamberts decision to go all out attack last night even more baffling... Swansea played it bang on tonight.
We can still do it and if we do it will be a classic, I just can't see it with our midfield.
I actually still think the manager got it right. The only slightly good thing about our team at the minute is the players going forward. If we sat back we'd just be waiting for the inevitable as we all know one thing we can't do is defend. On another night we could have got an early goal and the game would have been different, plus I can't imagine the majority of fans being happy at us sat back against a team so inferior, especially when they were happy for us to go at them. Swansea did got it right but they were playing a superior side away from home and that was probably the only realistic tactic available to them, unless the wanted to do what we did there and risked getting ripped to shreds.
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Losing 3-1 in the first leg of the semi final seems to be the norm for us. I had Tranmere on my mind as soon as we drew Bradford.
We'll dominate possession - even when they had the ball they kept giving it us back. It will be an intimidating atmosphere. The question will be how long they can hang on for. If we score fairly early on, I think we could piss all over them. Their best chance is to be well organised and try to hit us on the counter. We have to be a damn sight better at defending set pieces.
Tonight's result was a great result. If we can turn it around, we would have a real chance of winning the competition. Maybe it can give us a lift for the league games too.
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Maybe I'm delirious from this winter flu I've got, but having watched the highlights back again tonight, I think we can do it. Surely Bradford can't be that lucky again at the back? Surely Matt Duke can't make as many saves? Surely we can't waste as many chances? Surely we can defend better from set pieces?
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67.8% predicted a Villa win in the first leg now over 50% predict we will get to Wembley.
I wont be taking any betting tips from this lot.
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Maybe I'm delirious from this winter flu I've got, but having watched the highlights back again tonight, Loony I think we can do it. ::) Surely Bradford can't be that lucky again at the back They werent they didnt need to be Surely Matt Duke can't make as many saves? if players hit the ball at him he might Surely we can't waste as many chances oh yes we can Surely we can defend better from set pieces recent history suggests otherwise?
get down them there bookies :'(
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Surely we can defend better from set pieces?
THat point especially is highly doubtful.
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I don't think that we have it in that side to turn this around. We are always good for a goal for the opposition (see last night) and this will be our downfall.
I'm not a gloom mongerer, but I think that all they have to do is kill the game. Forth tier or not, it's not hard to play against us these days
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Maybe I'm delirious from this winter flu I've got, but having watched the highlights back again tonight, Loony I think we can do it. ::) Surely Bradford can't be that lucky again at the back They werent they didnt need to be Surely Matt Duke can't make as many saves? if players hit the ball at him he might Surely we can't waste as many chances oh yes we can Surely we can defend better from set pieces recent history suggests otherwise?
get down them there bookies :'(
As I say, I blame my highly medicated state of flu addled mind, for my wave of unfounded optimism. I think I just needed to say it out loud, so I can convince myself.
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I read today that Bradford's team cost £7,500. Why don't we just buy their entire team off them in the next two weeks.
Buying up the competition is how the Manchester clubs win their trophies.
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Think we will absolutely batter em. I would go with this:
Guzan
Lowton Lijai
Clarke Baker
Allbrighton Ireland Holman Nzog
Benteke Weimann
Really think we need to use width and speed with two fast wingers against these. Not a massive fan of either Nzog and Allbrighton but against a team like this we need to hit them fast and hard and I think it would work well.
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I've also just watched the highlights again. It really is quite stunning the way we created chances yet contrived to only register with one of them, whereas Bradford scored following three unremarkable crosses. We certainly defended badly, but that isn't the whole story. Whoever mentioned the phrase 'perfect storm' had it right. We weren't unlucky as such but just about everything that could go wrong did.
It is perfectly possible for us to play no better in the second leg and be out of sight by half time.
I think Bent summed up last night's game. Faced with a gaping goal from no distance at all not only did he mistime the jump and head the ball way over, he also managed to land awkwardly on the goalie and got injured.
By the way, the presenter on Look North was wearing a claret and amber tie tonight and couldn't resist some sarcastic comment or other at the end of the programme.
In two weeks time I have no doubt that the entire population of Bradford will have been at the ground last night, with half as many again travelling down the M1.
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5-2 to Villa.
Go fuck yourselves Messrs Parry, Savage et al.
We'll concede (that's a given). Maybe even go 1-0 down.
But barring injuries between now and the 22nd we have enough firepower to see off a fourth division side. If we can't do that over two legs, PL should do the decent thing and fall on his sword.
Some of the worst Villa teams I've ever seen would be capable of beating a fourth division side over two games.
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We'll beat Bradford, Swansea will see off Chelsea. With the two teams best suited to play each other in the final having another cracking game which we will win.
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One thing is for sure, we need to have Viila Park full and rocking to have any chance.
While this team is not fit to clean the boots of the 94 team, the atmosphere that day against Tranmere is something t most of us on here will never forget and I'm sure played a big part in the result. I see Collymore on twitter last night called for an 'Atletico Madrid' type atmosphere - that would work as well.
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Was the atmosphere for Blackburn '10 not memorable at all? Looked and sounded good on the telly.
No one is mentioning that and with the demise of terracing, Tranmere '94 seems an apposite comparison in scoreline only.
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We have to beat them but it doesn't escape the fact that this has been a disaster.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
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Was the atmosphere for Blackburn '10 not memorable at all? Looked and sounded good on the telly.
No one is mentioning that and with the demise of terracing, Tranmere '94 seems an apposite comparison in scoreline only.
The atmosphere against Bolton 04 was good as well and we nearly did that. We need to not get on the players backs even if it's still 0-0 at half time.
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes. That's sometimes the way it goes in football, you miss a couple opf chances and then start worrying that they could be costly. This was compounded by their gift of a first goal. One likes to think we will simply have too much quality for the second leg but with a 2-goal advantage to defend, their mind set will be one of 'they shall not pass' determination. Not over-confdent but it's do-able. Terrific prospect for the neutral football fan I imagine - not for us long-sufferers. I'd rather be there but I might have tio watch it on tv, being mid-week.
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I see Gabby saying we'll bounce back in the second leg on official site. Enough of this bollocks, we've been in a downward spiral for a while. The players want to show they're up for it, do it on the fucking pitch.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
That's when you need a bit of experience.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
That's when you need a bit of experience.
Ireland was the most experienced player on the bench and while he's understandably not everyone's cup of tea, he might have kept hold of the ball and been an extra body in the middle when we needed it.
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The annoying thing about Ireland, at this stage of his career and with his talent, he shouldn't even be on the bench. If he had fire in his belly for the cause he should be indispensable to the team at this stage. I thought that this was going to be his season, with the paucity of experience and talent in the squad he should be driving the team forward. These lads are making too much money too soon and they forget their focus. I'd include Gabby in that.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
That's when you need a bit of experience.
Ireland was the most experienced player on the bench and while he's understandably not everyone's cup of tea, he might have kept hold of the ball and been an extra body in the middle when we needed it.
And where the hell were Herd or Holman? Sat at home in Birmingham?
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
That's when you need a bit of experience.
Ireland was the most experienced player on the bench and while he's understandably not everyone's cup of tea, he might have kept hold of the ball and been an extra body in the middle when we needed it.
And where the hell were Herd or Holman? Sat at home in Birmingham?
They must have both been injured because they did'nt play against Ipswich either.
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If fit, we need Herd in the middle of the park to sit on that baldy that ran the game for them the other night - shutting him down willl allow our ball players to create the chances.
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Should have shut up at 2-1 and taken it on the chin. The game was too open and we were all over the place, chasing an equaliser cost us.
Yes we should have, which is why i said in the pre-match thread that i would have brought another midfielder on just after we scored. The way the game was going, had there been another 10 minutes left after they scored their 3rd, they probably would have gone on to score a 4th or 5th.
That's when you need a bit of experience.
Ireland was the most experienced player on the bench and while he's understandably not everyone's cup of tea, he might have kept hold of the ball and been an extra body in the middle when we needed it.
And where the hell were Herd or Holman? Sat at home in Birmingham?
They must have both been injured because they did'nt play against Ipswich either.
Nothing has been said about them being injured by the club and they're not on the physioroom injury list.Yet Marc Albrighton and Bent are both on there.Maybe PL felt they both needed a complete rest as neither have been great of late
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
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I see Gabby saying we'll bounce back in the second leg on official site. Enough of this bollocks, we've been in a downward spiral for a while. The players want to show they're up for it, do it on the fucking pitch.
Saw the headline but didn't want to read it , bout times players did their talking on the pitch is bang on Paul.
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
5..really ?
3 corners (avoidable if not defended properly)...and one effort from open play that hit the bar is my only recollection of Bradford's chances....it says it all that the Bradford goalkeeper was man of the match.
we did not defend well at all, but I could not see them scoring until that corner for the first goal fell perfectly to the lad who smashed it in brilliantly.
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
5..really ?
3 corners (avoidable if not defended properly)...and one effort from open play that hit the bar is my only recollection of Bradford's chances....it says it all that the Bradford goalkeeper was man of the match.
we did not defend well at all, but I could not see them scoring until that corner for the first goal fell perfectly to the lad who smashed it in brilliantly.
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One cleared off the line and a couple of good chances headed wide - yes they could easily have scored a couple more.
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
5..really ?
3 corners (avoidable if not defended properly)...and one effort from open play that hit the bar is my only recollection of Bradford's chances....it says it all that the Bradford goalkeeper was man of the match.
we did not defend well at all, but I could not see them scoring until that corner for the first goal fell perfectly to the lad who smashed it in brilliantly.
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One cleared off the line and a couple of good chances headed wide - yes they could easily have scored a couple more.
don't remember the one off the line and did we not have one off the line ?
and their headed chances were not even as good as our missed headed chances.
an early goal for the Villa would of killed them, had it come in my opinion.
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
5..really ?
3 corners (avoidable if not defended properly)...and one effort from open play that hit the bar is my only recollection of Bradford's chances....it says it all that the Bradford goalkeeper was man of the match.
we did not defend well at all, but I could not see them scoring until that corner for the first goal fell perfectly to the lad who smashed it in brilliantly.
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One cleared off the line and a couple of good chances headed wide - yes they could easily have scored a couple more.
don't remember the one off the line and did we not have one off the line ?
and their headed chances were not even as good as our missed headed chances.
an early goal for the Villa would of killed them, had it come in my opinion.
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Think theirs off the line was from a corner in the 1st half , make no mistake we could also easily have had 5 , benteke and bent both missed sitters, and gabby should have buried his chance too, yes their keeper made saves but really he shouldn't have been able to get near saving from those chances - I agree if we had scored early on we could have won by a few.
I was amazed how open the game was for a semi, but I think they will try and shut up shop down here.
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I was amazed how open the game was for a semi, but I think they will try and shut up shop down here.
I hope Lambert looks and learns.
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I was amazed how open the game was for a semi, but I think they will try and shut up shop down here.
I hope Lambert looks and learns.
With a two goal advantage, they'll rightly look to park the proverbial bus and get 10 men behind the ball.
We've not looked like we can break teams down this season as our build up is often too slow and predictable. I'd think they'll look to have break aways like on Tuesday and defend pretty deep.
We need an early goal and that could change everything about both sides approach, but the longer we go without a goal or if we leak another it'll be curtains.
What odds before Tuesday on a Bradford v Swansea final???
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I think given the lack of a DM Lambert decided to go all out attack ....maybe if we had scored early that would of worked as they were very vunrable on the counter
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Just watched the highlights on AVTV and on another night we would have been out of sight after about 25 minutes.
Bradford could easily have scored five though.
5..really ?
3 corners (avoidable if not defended properly)...and one effort from open play that hit the bar is my only recollection of Bradford's chances....it says it all that the Bradford goalkeeper was man of the match.
we did not defend well at all, but I could not see them scoring until that corner for the first goal fell perfectly to the lad who smashed it in brilliantly.
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Yes, 5. Duke had a good game but can't remember him making many saves that he wouldn't have been expected to, granted if Benteke hadn't been wearing Heskey's boots or head Villa would have scored a few themselves but this is a 4th division team we were playing.
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They were talking up Duke to absolutely ridiculous levels on Sky.
He made lots of saves, yes, because we put them under a bit of pressure, but he was hardly plucking them out of the air like Billy The Fish.
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Watching the game back, I actually thought we were quite good we just missed two vital components: A midfielder who could make tackles; and luck.
I don't quite understand the hate for N'Zogbia on here either, sure he perhaps should've passed the ball a bit more but he drove our entire team forward and looked like the most dangerous man on the pitch by a mile.
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They were talking up Duke to absolutely ridiculous levels on Sky.
He made lots of saves, yes, because we put them under a bit of pressure, but he was hardly plucking them out of the air like Billy The Fish.
A couple of those saves he made could have bounced anywhere but they were scrambled away. However abysmal we were - and just how bad the team played can't be exaggerated - with a bit of luck we could easily have won by three goals.
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We have missed a midfielder who could tackle all season to be honest.If we score early in the 2nd leg we can still go through
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They were talking up Duke to absolutely ridiculous levels on Sky.
He made lots of saves, yes, because we put them under a bit of pressure, but he was hardly plucking them out of the air like Billy The Fish.y
A couple of those saves he made could have bounced anywhere but they were scrambled away. However abysmal we were - and just how bad the team played can't be exaggerated - with a bit of luck we could easily have won by three goals.
indeed...Duke will not play as well as that again.
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99% of the shots Duke had to save were straight at him.
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Tuesday night was Duke's game of his life. Let's make the return leg his biggest nightmare.
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Betfair have us at 2.08 and Bradford at 1.83 to qualify. Surely even we should be favourites to beat Bradford by 2 goals or more?
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i'm hoping Bradford do come and park the bus as others have said, because if they come and have a go they will probably get another one or two
if they go all defensive it will give us chance to build up some pressure without the risk of a counter attack
to be honest i think we will go 2 up at least by mid half way through the second half,
but then thats where our problems will start, holding on to it as they throw caution to the wind knowing one goal will be enough in the last few minuets will put us under enoumous pressure, and we arnt very good under pressure
i reckon its 50/50 as to who goes through on the night
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I announced today to a room full of people that Villa would definitely get into the final. They all laughed.
Serves me right I suppose.
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I announced today to a room full of people that Villa would definitely get into the final. They all laughed.
Serves me right I suppose.
Hope they come begging for tickets then.
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I think we'll turn it round. It's our league form I really worry about.
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I announced today to a room full of people that Villa would definitely get into the final. They all laughed.
Serves me right I suppose.
If I knew how to fill in a betting slip I would have a bet on a Chelsea v Villa final. Probably a good job I don't.
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99% of the shots Duke had to save were straight at him.
Exactly right. He had a decent, busy night but most of those saves were pretty standard stuff. Don Goodman however seemed to think he'd become Gordon Banks and Dino Zoff rolled into one.
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I have to confess that i have flights bought for the final.
My favourite phrase at work is now " it's only half time". Of course we will do it.
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Betfair have us at 2.08 and Bradford at 1.83 to qualify. Surely even we should be favourites to beat Bradford by 2 goals or more?
That's obviously not what the great British public think.
Mind you, the same great British public think England will win the world cup every time, hence the stupid prices there.
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You can get evens on us to qualify.
3-1 is far from unretrievable, and we will at least be fired by the fact we lost in Bradford, but evens for a Premier League side, at home, to overturn a two goal deficit against a League Two side strikes me as pretty generous, even when the PL side is as unpredictable as we are.
I think some people are getting carried away. As others have said, we were in many ways utterly execrable on Tuesday, but we could also have quite easily won by several goals.
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We will win by at least 4 clear goals and play Swansea in the final and we will win that 3-2 ;)
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They were talking up Duke to absolutely ridiculous levels on Sky.
He made lots of saves, yes, because we put them under a bit of pressure, but he was hardly plucking them out of the air like Billy The Fish.
In fairness it's a good story anyway as he's beaten cancer. He's hardly a nobody as he played for Hull in the premier league just three years ago including a 3-0 defeat at VP....so it was him that conceded the imfamous Sidwell throw in Milner goal.
Actually thinking of keepers, I'd leave a sub if it looks like going to penalties and bring Guzan on as I don't have confidence Given would get near any of the Bradford penalties seeing as they're pretty good at them.
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i'm hoping Bradford do come and park the bus as others have said, because if they come and have a go they will probably get another one or two
if they go all defensive it will give us chance to build up some pressure without the risk of a counter attack
to be honest i think we will go 2 up at least by mid half way through the second half,
but then thats where our problems will start, holding on to it as they throw caution to the wind knowing one goal will be enough in the last few minuets will put us under enoumous pressure, and we arnt very good under pressure
i reckon its 50/50 as to who goes through on the night
Yeah it's going to be a strange night. For example we could be 4-1 up either at the end of extra time and in most cases that would be very comfortable but it would be the equivilant of hanging onto a 1 nil lead as one more goal for Bradford would take them to Wembley.
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We're 7/2 3rd favourites to lift the cup. Swansea now favourites.
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We will win by at least 4 clear goals and play Swansea in the final and we will win that 3-2 ;)
Is it happy hour in that boozer you're in Dan?
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
So what?
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
Yep I will take the bet, how much you want to bet I am good for a hunderd quid that we dont get through, do you want to bet against me
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
Yep I will take the bet, how much you want to bet I am good for a hunderd quid that we dont get through, do you want to bet against me
I'll take that bet, all day long and twice on Tuesday.
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
Yep I will take the bet, how much you want to bet I am good for a hunderd quid that we dont get through, do you want to bet against me
I'll take that bet, all day long and twice on Tuesday.
I will have some of that action too.
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
Yep I will take the bet, how much you want to bet I am good for a hunderd quid that we dont get through, do you want to bet against me
I'll take that bet, all day long and twice on Tuesday.
I will have some of that action too.
I'll match all your bets that we get to the final at even money,
just pm me with the amount and I will stand on
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I feel a lot better now.
and agree with a lot of people....we'll batter 'em at home.
4-0
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Well with everybody jumping on us from a great height I decide to take the Ron Saunders stance bravely and stubbonly announcing to anyone who showed any sign of taking the piss
'Do you want to bet against us'
Not one taker so despite the scoreline the majority still think we will get through
Yep I will take the bet, how much you want to bet I am good for a hunderd quid that we dont get through, do you want to bet against me
I'll take that bet, all day long and twice on Tuesday.
I will have some of that action too.
I'll match all your bets that we get to the final at even money,
just pm me with the amount and I will stand on
count me out ! this action is too hot for me.........I have an expensive wife and two cats to support..
UTV
The Doc
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I feel a lot better now.
and agree with a lot of people....we'll batter 'em at home.
4-0
I've gone 4-1 , I think an early goal would really rock them but in all honesty the gulf in class should tell at villa park .
What should have been a comfortable victory parade though will now be tenser that I'd hoped but surely we will do the job.
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I see it's rumoured that Blackpool are after Parkinson. Good!
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4-1 Villa without Ron
4-0 with him