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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Dave Summers on January 03, 2013, 11:48:52 AM
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Just found this article which shows that those boys from East Anglia are still as bitter 32 years on. Yes I am sure if you hadn't fluked that FA Cup 3rd Round you would have won the league !!!!!!!!
http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-town/latest-news/ipswich_v_villa_video_did_paul_mariner_s_goal_cost_blues_league_title_1_1758630
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And if my Aunt had a cock she'd be my uncle. Get over it, you tractor-driving tossers.
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In their last 10 league matches of that season, they lost 7 and won 3 - clearly not good enough to win the league, just as we wasn't in 1989/90 & 1992/93.
Points wise, they actually were closer to winning the league the season after but were edged out my Liverpool, but funnily enough that never gets brought up.
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It gives me a warm glow knowing that after almost 32 years they are still bitter. I love it when the likes of Brazil still mention it.
We got 60 points, they didn't end of story.
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;D Brazil mentions it virtually every morning, the red-faced bloated bitter bald twat.
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This is how it finished:
1 Aston Villa 42 26 8 8 72 40 +32 60
2 Ipswich Town 42 23 10 9 77 43 +34 56
How it would have finshed if 3 points for a win had been introduced a year earlier:
1 Aston Villa 42 26 8 8 72 40 +32 86
2 Ipswich Town 42 23 10 9 77 43 +34 79
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I remember Bill Shankly saying in his Sports Argus column that no team ever wins the League through luck.
You can't be lucky over 42 games.
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Ah "Thirsty Alan Brazil", eh?
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In their last 10 league matches of that season, they lost 7 and won 3 - clearly not good enough to win the league, just as we wasn't in 1989/90 & 1992/93.
Points wise, they actually were closer to winning the league the season after but were edged out my Liverpool, but funnily enough that never gets brought up.
Well put
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Funny how they never mention how we outplayed them both times down there. Or the blatant penalty we should have had in the game at VP. Funny that.
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Strange how the author chooses to illustrate his point with a video of another competition which Villa won that season.
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What pisses me off even more than the "Ipswich lost the league" bollocks is that when you look at the final table and what those clubs dd in Europe around that time it could be said that it was the strongest-ever first division, yet the champions are thought of as poor. How does that work?
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I'd never thought of it like that before but that division had two clubs who had won the previous four European Cups plus winning again that season with the finalists from the previous Cup Winners Cup and that season's UEFA Cup winners.
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Funny how they never mention how we outplayed them both times down there. Or the blatant penalty we should have had in the game at VP. Funny that.
Quite right, how they won both those games I will never know, we were superb. They were the team the press wanted to win, with their supposed better footballing ability. What a load of tosh, the football we played that season was superb, though still think the 76/77 team just edged them for excitement
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We won more games then Ipswich that season, lost less then them.
In the game at VP, didnt we batter them, but got punished as we 'gave' them 2 goals?
The words bitter & twisted spring to mind :-)
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Also worth a mention is that we had to play 8 local derbies that season (if we count Coventry and Wolves), including against a very good West Brom team who finished fourth I think. Ipswich had to play relegated Norwich twice.
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Not to mention that we had loads of local derbies which are always tough and didn't lose a single one, whereas their only 'local' derby was Norwich, who they lost to.
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Also worth a mention is that we had to play 8 local derbies that season (if we count Coventry and Wolves), including against a very good West Brom team who finished fourth I think. Ipswich had to play relegated Norwich twice.
And lost both didn't they?
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Also worth a mention is that we had to play 8 local derbies that season (if we count Coventry and Wolves), including against a very good West Brom team who finished fourth I think. Ipswich had to play relegated Norwich twice.
And lost both didn't they?
No idea, didn't take much notice of the carrot crunching, tractor driving inbreds.
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Ipswich fans should also consider that despite beating us twice Villa STILL won more games than they did.
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I might take their claims of being a better team than us more seriously if they had gone on to win anything else in the following seasons. While we won the European Cup and Super Cup they won precisely nothing. Obviously, like us in '81 the winners of the First Division, FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup in 1982 and 1983 just had more luck than poor old Ipswich.
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I'll never forget leaving Villa Park that night after they beat us in the "championship decider" totally downbeat, only to go home and watch it again on the tv and hear Ron say those never to be forgotten words.
It's a bit like the rags' attitude to playing us in 1970s when they had a bit of a hold on us - but we'd still finish top 7 or 8 and qualify for europe, whereas they would narrowly avoid relegation, but as far as they were concerened they'd had a more successful season. The title was won over 42 games NOT 2, and the fact they knocked us out of the FA Cup is immaterial.
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I might take their claims of being a better team than us more seriously if they had gone on to win anything else in the following seasons. While we won the European Cup and Super Cup they won precisely nothing. Obviously, like us in '81 the winners of the First Division, FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup in 1982 and 1983 just had more luck than poor old Ipswich.
Ipswich won the Uefa Cup in 1981
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I might take their claims of being a better team than us more seriously if they had gone on to win anything else in the following seasons. While we won the European Cup and Super Cup they won precisely nothing. Obviously, like us in '81 the winners of the First Division, FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup in 1982 and 1983 just had more luck than poor old Ipswich.
Ipswich won the Uefa Cup in 1981
I'm guessing that is the key bit.
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I genuinely don't believe I'll experience the joy of seeing us crowned champions of England once again, that makes me sad.
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I genuinely don't believe I'll experience the joy of seeing us crowned champions of England once again, that makes me sad.
Most football supporters will never get to see it even once. Cherish the memory.
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All the talk of Ipswich being the better side because they beat us 3 times that season is Bollox, i went to both league games, away at Portman road, we absolutely battered them, their keeper Paul Cooper got man of the match in every paper, we had something like 20-odd corners, we could still be playing now and we wouldnt have scored. At Villa park, we gifted them the 2 worst defensive mistakes we made all season, scored a tremendous goal via Gary Shaw and were unlucky not to get a penalty. Didnt see the FA cup game, so cant comment.
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All the talk of Ipswich being the better side because they beat us 3 times that season is Bollox, i went to both league games, away at Portman road, we absolutely battered them, their keeper Paul Cooper got man of the match in every paper, we had something like 20-odd corners, we could still be playing now and we wouldnt have scored. At Villa park, we gifted them the 2 worst defensive mistakes we made all season, scored a tremendous goal via Gary Shaw and were unlucky not to get a penalty. Didnt see the FA cup game, so cant comment.
I was at Portman Road for the FA Cup match and seem to remember a hand ball (Gates?) in the area as he brought the ball down to pass to Mariner for the only goal
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What I remember most about the League winning year was a bloke we worked with. He had had a minor heart attack about a month before the Arsenal game and was told by the medical people that he was not to do anything strenuous and to get as much rest as possible.
I think he was in the first hundred to enter Highbury.
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That Highbury Saturday has to be one of the most emotionally all over the place days ever! From anticipation to misery to resignation to hope to bedlam and to the pub all in a few short hours!
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didn't Bill Shankly congratulate the Villa for winning, by saying that we won more games than anyone else so deserved it ?
I'm sure I read or heard that somewhere....great memories..I might have to dig out the Champions DVD when I get home..
UTV
The Doc
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Ron Saunders did an interview and said Shankly had told him Villa's points and win totals exceeded what he would consider the target for teams aiming to be champions.
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didn't Bill Shankly congratulate the Villa for winning, by saying that we won more games than anyone else so deserved it ?
I'm sure I read or heard that somewhere....great memories..I might have to dig out the Champions DVD when I get home..
UTV
The Doc
Ron Saunders mentions it on there, well worth watching again though.