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Title: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 07, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
As a Arena car park season ticket holder, I have today received a letter from the club.
The main points of the letter are as follows.

"The club has been informed that starting in January 2013, the Aston Arena building (formerly known as the Aston Villa Leisure Centre) will be demolished. The process will take approximately 12 weeks ...."

Various information then about car park spaces at front not being available but the rear spaces still will be, and the entrance adjacent to the Aston Social will be unavailable impacting on traffic flow in and out on matchdays.

"You will have no doubt seen or heard numerous suggestions and possible Government backed plans for the site. We are certain that the demolition of the building is the first step towards alternative use for the site, which may or may not give Aston Villa the opportunity to retain use of the site for match-day parking. We remain in communication with the current land owners, and will ensure  you are notified and updated accordingly."


 
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Nev on December 07, 2012, 04:05:07 PM
Bring the Onion Fair back!
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Isnt the land owned by Advantage West Midlands ? A quasi government dept
Probably be building social housing ?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Drummond on December 07, 2012, 04:08:38 PM
Having been stuck  for ages on numerous occasions trying to get out of that car park with both entrances, I can't imagine what sort of hell it will be like in future.....
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 07, 2012, 04:15:53 PM
Where are Team Fiat going to play their home matches from now on?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
Isnt the land owned by Advantage West Midlands ? A quasi government dept
Probably be building social housing ?

Advantage West Midlands were wound up some time ago and that land is unsuitable for housing due to pollution from the Expressway.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Pete3206 on December 07, 2012, 05:17:38 PM
Does that mean no more concerts? Where are The Alarm and Then Jericho going to play?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on December 07, 2012, 05:18:13 PM
Think they should build a big live music venue there as alternative to NEC Arena
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 07, 2012, 05:25:49 PM
Does that mean no more concerts? Where are The Alarm and Then Jericho going to play?


I saw The The at the Leisure Centre, they were excellent.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: bertlambshank on December 07, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
I miss Granada Bingo myself.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 05:34:13 PM
Isnt the land owned by Advantage West Midlands ? A quasi government dept
Probably be building social housing ?

Advantage West Midlands were wound up some time ago and that land is unsuitable for housing due to pollution from the Expressway.
When did Pollution ever come into the equation around housing schemes? See Walsall
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 05:35:48 PM
Does that mean no more concerts? Where are The Alarm and Then Jericho going to play?
Add Voice of The Beehive to that list, pretty sure we saw them play the Villa Leisure.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
Isnt the land owned by Advantage West Midlands ? A quasi government dept
Probably be building social housing ?

Advantage West Midlands were wound up some time ago and that land is unsuitable for housing due to pollution from the Expressway.
When did Pollution ever come into the equation around housing schemes? See Walsall

Probably around the same time as it was reckoned lead poisoning isn't a very good idea.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Pete3206 on December 07, 2012, 05:44:35 PM
Does that mean no more concerts? Where are The Alarm and Then Jericho going to play?
Add Voice of The Beehive to that list, pretty sure we saw them play the Villa Leisure.

Saw Paul Weller there as well.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on December 07, 2012, 05:47:52 PM
Best concert of my life was there - Manic Street Preachers just on the cusp of becoming huge. Supported by an unknown Catatonia.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 05:52:55 PM
I'm sure I've played squash in the villa leisure about 25 years ago or did I completely dream they had squash courts ?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: peter w on December 07, 2012, 05:53:32 PM
Saw Fun Loving Criminals and Pop Will Eat Itselfthere. As well as Team Fiat/Birmingham Bullets.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: SashasGrandad on December 07, 2012, 05:54:25 PM
When did the club sell it's stake in the Leisure Centre? I thought they owned a bit of it at one time.

Probably sold off to fund an ex-Chairman's retirement?

Have always said the club should have bought up all spare land between the ground and the railway when it became available and built retail and parking which would have paid for itself and provided parking on match days.

Unfortunately it all went before Randy came.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Isnt the land owned by Advantage West Midlands ? A quasi government dept
Probably be building social housing ?

Advantage West Midlands were wound up some time ago and that land is unsuitable for housing due to pollution from the Expressway.
When did Pollution ever come into the equation around housing schemes? See Walsall

Probably around the same time as it was reckoned lead poisoning isn't a very good idea.
How come there are new houses alongside the M6 then ? Take Fort Dunlop as a prime example
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Nev on December 07, 2012, 05:56:52 PM
I saw Deacon Blue twice, the Manics, the Levellers, Brain May and who could forget the legendary VFU meeting featuring, amongst others, Howard whatsits report and Carl Chinn reading out a letter from Brain Travers out of UB40.

I nipped out for a fag halfway through and had a chat with a rather grumpy man with a beard............
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 07, 2012, 05:58:12 PM
Saw Weller there several times, and Villa's away leg v Spartak Moscow in '83 (I think).

Best half-time pundits ever - Little and Cowans.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: peter w on December 07, 2012, 05:59:22 PM
also saw Luton - Villa there.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 05:59:39 PM
When did the club sell it's stake in the Leisure Centre? I thought they owned a bit of it at one time.

Probably sold off to fund an ex-Chairman's retirement?

Have always said the club should have bought up all spare land between the ground and the railway when it became available and built retail and parking which would have paid for itself and provided parking on match days.

Unfortunately it all went before Randy came.
Pretty sure one of HDE's final acts was to sell all the Serpentine Land for circa £8m
Your guess is as good as mine where that cash went
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 07, 2012, 06:07:21 PM
I'm sure I've played squash in the villa leisure about 25 years ago or did I completely dream they had squash courts ?

They did have squash courts there. I used them a few times because it was cheaper and also less stuck up then playing at Wyndley.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
I'm sure I've played squash in the villa leisure about 25 years ago or did I completely dream they had squash courts ?

They did have squash courts there. I used them a few times because it was cheaper and also less stuck up then playing at Wyndley.
Thanks good to know my long term memory isn't completely shot.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Dave Javu on December 07, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
I saw Crowded House there - twice - and I still have the t-shirt.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: MonsXI on December 07, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
I remember some crazy rave there, couple of us staggered towards VP at 5am with intentions of running round on the pitch which obviously didn't happen.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Pretty sobering / scary  when you can remember buildings being built and then torn down.
Gulp,  I'm getting old.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: myf on December 07, 2012, 08:15:05 PM
its all part of this advanced manufacturing hub which will see the demo of eddies and aston social. Eric pickles was down there a few weeks back to endorse the councils plans
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 07, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
I bet Henri Taroni is involved somewhere
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: FrankyH on December 07, 2012, 08:41:19 PM
Saw The Pogues, minus Shane MacGowan - Joe Strummer filling in as lead vocals.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: FrankyH on December 07, 2012, 08:44:29 PM
its all part of this advanced manufacturing hub which will see the demo of eddies and aston social. Eric pickles was down there a few weeks back to endorse the councils plans

Is that still going to happen ? It must be private investment, as the council haven't got a pot to piss in.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: rjp on December 07, 2012, 08:52:09 PM
I remember some crazy rave there, couple of us staggered towards VP at 5am with intentions of running round on the pitch which obviously didn't happen.

I went to a rave there too, I would have been about 16 if I remember correctly which would put it around 1992.  It was called Nemesis.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: pooligan on December 07, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
I also remember going to watch the Luton v Villa  match there. Never saw most of the game as the quality was bloody awful.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 07, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
Did Ricky Hill score?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 07, 2012, 10:10:45 PM
I used to play squash there in the early 80s. I also remember going to see Kash the Flash Gill in a Kick Boxing World title fight there.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Pete3206 on December 07, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
its all part of this advanced manufacturing hub which will see the demo of eddies and aston social. Eric pickles was down there a few weeks back to endorse the councils plans

Are you sure The Aston Social is being demolished? Seems to be news to them.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: wozwebs on December 08, 2012, 12:20:02 AM
Saw Carter USM, Ned's and Ocean Colour Scene there and tried to get in to see Blur supported by Pulp but sold out. Dodgy stewards were letting people sneak in for £25 cash but we weren't paying that!

Wanted to see Nirvana there but Kurt blew his head off before they had chance to play.

Went past it the other week and thought what a dump it had become. Used to get all the gigs whilst the Hummingbird was closed but then when it re-opened as the Carling Academy they lost all the gigs and revenue no doubt.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: myf on December 08, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
council just acquiring the land and preparing it for the market. they don't want to miss out another JLR expansion like at i54. also want to provide land for the supply chain.

could be wrong about social but the land was required last time i saw the plans
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 08, 2012, 08:53:42 AM
So back to the original point, this will cause a shortage of Matchday parking ?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: flybo on December 08, 2012, 09:04:27 AM
When did the club sell it's stake in the Leisure Centre? I thought they owned a bit of it at one time.

Probably sold off to fund an ex-Chairman's retirement?

Have always said the club should have bought up all spare land between the ground and the railway when it became available and built retail and parking which would have paid for itself and provided parking on match days.

Unfortunately it all went before Randy came.
Pretty sure one of HDE's final acts was to sell all the Serpentine Land for circa £8m
Your guess is as good as mine where that cash went
Thats is right i brought a share only had about six months when Randy brought Villa.
We where asked to agree to the sale of the land and not long after my share was gone ;-(
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Pete3206 on December 08, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
So back to the original point, this will cause a shortage of Matchday parking ?

How many spaces does the car park hold?
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on December 08, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
When did the club sell it's stake in the Leisure Centre? I thought they owned a bit of it at one time.

Probably sold off to fund an ex-Chairman's retirement?

Have always said the club should have bought up all spare land between the ground and the railway when it became available and built retail and parking which would have paid for itself and provided parking on match days.

Unfortunately it all went before Randy came.
Pretty sure one of HDE's final acts was to sell all the Serpentine Land for circa £8m
Your guess is as good as mine where that cash went

The land was originally sold to help cover the losses we'd made in that last HDE season. The money was then used as surety for MON to buy Petrov in the period when the Lerner sale was going through but hadn't been completed.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: silhillvilla on December 08, 2012, 12:12:35 PM
So back to the original point, this will cause a shortage of Matchday parking ?

How many spaces does the car park hold?
I would say about 1000 ? I never park there as its chaos getting out
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Pete3206 on December 08, 2012, 12:44:15 PM
Nor me. I park on my mate's road on The Brookvale. It's an extra 15 minute walk, but worth it to escape the crowds.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Leighton on December 08, 2012, 11:37:28 PM
Went there to see us play Albion away in the FA Cup. Think it was the game that Kent Nielsen broke Gary Robson's leg. Mountfield and Daley scored in a 2-0 win if I recall correctly. What I defiantly do recall correctly though was that the big screen messed up for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 09, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
My mum and nan saw Gene Pitney there. Next day he was brown bread. I blame them.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Nigel Macdougall on December 09, 2012, 09:33:17 PM
My mum and nan saw Gene Pitney there. Next day he was brown bread. I blame them.

He was only 24 hours from Tulsa.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: thick_mike on December 09, 2012, 10:46:40 PM
Saw Beck there, very cool.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: bertlambshank on December 09, 2012, 10:51:27 PM
Saw Beck there, very cool.
Hated it,far too much get your hands in the air bollocks.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: villan from luton on December 09, 2012, 11:21:01 PM
think it was spartak moscow, 2-2 draw and Walters was class in the european cup winning type shirt, but then again I am half cut
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: hilts_coolerking on December 10, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
Used to be our local Asda when I was growing up.  I remember buying some Silly Putty there which must make it... let's see... a very long time ago.
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 10, 2012, 07:28:54 PM
I remember when we used to buy a few cans from there before getting on the Traveller's Club coaches. Proof af age laws must have been so much more lax in those days. Then again, we might have just pinched them, I'm not sure.

Then we got banned from the Traveller's and away matches immediately became much more of an adventure :)
Title: Re: Leisure Centre being demolished - car park future ?
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on December 11, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
When Doug did the deal to flog the Serpentine to Asda am I correct in recalling a headline in The Meaning Evil calling us Asda Villa?
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