Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: nornironvillain on November 25, 2012, 12:04:40 AM
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was a bit subdued today - has the results got to our home crowd? (and i know about our home record this calendar year)
all season it has been very good and against utd it was bouncing (even before we scored) - was it the weather, or have we started to wane a bit too?
commentators said it a few times, and usually when you watch a game on tv, Villa fans are right up for it - today seemed dead
on espn you could hear every Arsenal song, and when the Villa are live on tv, its very rare you hear the away fans!!!
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was a bit subdued today - has the results got to our home crowd? (and i know about our home record this calendar year)
all season it has been very good and against utd it was bouncing (even before we scored) - was it the weather, or have we started to wane a bit too?
commentators said it a few times, and usually when you watch a game on tv, Villa fans are right up for it - today seemed dead
on espn you could hear every Arsenal song, and when the Villa are live on tv, its very rare you hear the away fans!!!
I didn't get over to the Man United game so can't offer that as a comparison but to be honest I thought it was the best atmosphere I'd felt at Villa Park for a long time. Much less negativity around than any point since about 2010.
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I thought the atmosphere today was the best since the Liverpool game when Blues went down.
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I thought the atmosphere today was the best since the Liverpool game when Blues went down.
Oh yeah?
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really?
sorry guys but on the tv it didnt seem like that - and it was mentioned (a few times) that Villa park was very subdued
granted i wasnt there - but on the tele it was Arsenal fans songs coming through loud and clear
im very surprised that 2 replies and both say that this was the best atmosphere at Villa that they have heard in a while
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
Try standing in it for two hours.
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
Try standing in it for two hours.
fair play to you - it looked feckin awful
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I noticed it was a bit subdued today. I actually tried to start a chant or two in my area of the Lower Holte but failed miserably. It did pick up some in the second half though.
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I think it depends on where you were in VP. At the back of the Upper Holte we hardly stopped all game. The TV companies always put the microphones by the away fans so they always sound loud. The weather didn't help, though!
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The Holte end was rocking second half, atmosphere was good for a 34k crowd.
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Was there as usual and I thought our fans for once were great. Total support and no moaning. Arsenal supporters were also the best behaved away fans so far this season however they were the quietest fans so far this season as well. Sometimes the TV, actually most times, gives you wrong impression. ESPN only have one mic placed halfway at Witton lane stand!
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
I *was* in it for two hours!
Try standing in it for two hours.
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Depends where you are in the ground. I was in the Holte for the first time in about 10 years and I thought the crowd was great in the 2nd half. My usual seat is in the Witton Upper which is usually subdued anyway, but like most of the other stands, takes it's cues from The Holte End.
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Armchair 'fans' knocking the atmosphere.. pisses me off nearly as much as Small Heath Fans.
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
I *was* in it for two hours!
Try standing in it for two hours.
Not before the match you weren't.
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The TV cameras are above the Witton Lane Stand so they are bound to pick up more noise from the away fans concentrated just below them.
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I thought the atmosphere was good but perhaps more a warm comfortable than hot hysterical.
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As usual in L8 the atmosphere was excellent and was spreading around the lower holte, VP sounded pretty good to me as i was actually there !
FUCK SKY and FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
I *was* in it for two hours!
Try standing in it for two hours.
Not before the match you weren't.
I actually was. It wasn't pleasant. I thought the Holte sounded noisy at times, I was hoping the Paul Lambert claret and blue army chant would catch on where we were because that one sounded ace. As ever the acoustics of the ground probably have a part to play.
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Only saw it on telly but have to say it seemed the complete opposite. Flat is the norm now at VP and has been for some time.
Yesterday there were times when it sounded like it was rocking again, mainly in the second half.
Was there against Norwich and it was like a morgue.
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I thought it was better than it has been for some time yesterday - especially in the Upper Holte. I think the acoustics of the ground do have an effect - for instance I didn't know the Arse fans were chanting 'you don't know what you're doing' at Wenger til I read it on here. As always, when you see the players having a proper go the atmosphere tends to lift and vice versa
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Sounded pretty good in the upper holte to be fair. The lads at the back at one stage we're singing claret 'n blue army none stop for about 10 mins. They were giving a real good go.
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I sat by the away fans in the north upper, they weren't that loud, there was a muted "you don't know what your doing" at wenger but they were quiet compared to some. You can't hear the holte that well either, it must be acoustics as some have suggested
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I am convinced the ship has been steadied. Yesterday was the most settled and assured we have looked as a club in two years. Last season (and the season before) there was a sense of constant crisis and dread. Villa Park always seemed nervy, on edge. Yesterday I felt we started to look to the future with confidence.
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I was in the Holte and thought it was pretty good yesterday.
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A lot of it is down to acoustics. Now I've moved from the Upper Holte to P8 I hardly hear the HE, just the away fans when previously the reverse used to be the case.
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Armchair 'fans' knocking the atmosphere.. pisses me off nearly as much as Small Heath Fans.
There is no need for that. Our fans have an opinion even if they can't make it to VP regularly.
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I thought it was better than it has been for some time yesterday - especially in the Upper Holte...
Yeah, it was. And - given our league position, our recent home record, the time of day, the weather and the TV presence - I was surprised how 'up' people were.
When we start winning the atmosphere could get very special ...
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Armchair 'fans' knocking the atmosphere.. pisses me off nearly as much as Small Heath Fans.
There is no need for that. Our fans have an opinion even if they can't make it to VP regularly.
When it comes to judging atmosphere, I think he has a point. I do think you have to be there.
In my opinion, the atmosphere was second only to the Man Utd match.
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I am convinced the ship has been steadied. Yesterday was the most settled and assured we have looked as a club in two years. Last season (and the season before) there was a sense of constant crisis and dread. Villa Park always seemed nervy, on edge. Yesterday I felt we started to look to the future with confidence.
I agree - I think the confidence in our new team is starting to grow - even when Vlaar went off the crowd stayed with the team and played their part in holding on for the point. I think regulars can see the progress being made and its starting to raise the spirits.
In recent seasons the crowd would have sensed disaster at that point - and would have gone very quiet while the game faded away with the inevitable defeat.
You could see the players were determined to hold out - they knew it was going to be hard without concrete Ron but they kept their nerve, quickly reorganised, Lowton seemed to know it was going to happen and was prepared to go in the middle, Clark took charge, Lichaj slotted in well, Stephens looks a bit unorthodox but he is fairly effective despite being a bit of a worry, he does push the opponents back, not sure how he does it but they are less of a danger the further the get towards their own half!
Westwood and Bannan were not world beaters but they and Al Ahmadi weren't afraid to take on the Arsenal "established stars" and at times they were on top.
Keep the faith we are getting there. When we do get there the atmosphere will also be back to its best.
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Armchair 'fans' knocking the atmosphere.. pisses me off nearly as much as Small Heath Fans.
wasnt knocking anything - just saying that the utd match the atmosphere was/seemed a lot better - hell even the 2 commentators said as much a couple of times, and i take it they were there?
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When it comes to judging atmosphere, I think he has a point. I do think you have to be there.
In my opinion, the atmosphere was second only to the Man Utd match.
what you should do is start another "funny" thread and then have to explain to everyone what the "joke" is
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on espn you could hear every Arsenal song, and when the Villa are live on tv, its very rare you hear the away fans!!!
You can always hear the away fans on TV at Villa Park. The mics are located by the away end. Furthest from our 'singing end'. It's the same at Goodison & Ewood.
I was sat in the Upper North and had to explain to an Arsenal fan at half time the principle of acoustics in football stadia. And how he wasn't going to hear the Upper Holte from 150+ yards away. Same applies here.
The second half however, when the whole of the Holte joined in, it was excellent and very much audible from where we were. I had a wry smile as our supporters in the Lower Holte sang "Paul Lambert's Claret & Blue Army" whilst Arsenal fans boo'd Wenger and sang "You don't know what you're doing". Excellent from us. You wouldn't find many fans so ardently behind their manager when in the relegation zone a third of the way into the season.
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I thought the atmosphere sounded good on TV, and heard lots of Villa songs. Have you won the Euro cup etc...
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
I *was* in it for two hours!
Try standing in it for two hours.
Not before the match you weren't.
I actually was. It wasn't pleasant. I thought the Holte sounded noisy at times, I was hoping the Paul Lambert claret and blue army chant would catch on where we were because that one sounded ace. As ever the acoustics of the ground probably have a part to play.
It still wasn't the wettest ever. Middlesbrough in 2008 wins that award.
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I was bloody soaked. I had to stay in the pub to silly o`clock to get dry, it was terrible :-))
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When it comes to judging atmosphere, I think he has a point. I do think you have to be there.
In my opinion, the atmosphere was second only to the Man Utd match.
what you should do is start another "funny" thread and then have to explain to everyone what the "joke" is
"By" "everyone", "you" "mean" "the" "couple" "who" "missed" "it""," "then" "understood" "what" "I" "meant""?"
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From P8 all I could hear was the Arse fans who put on a good show, unlike those Manc scumbags a couple of weeks back. For us there was one particularly obnoxious knuckledragging fucktard up at the back of P8 who really boiled my piss. When he wasn't calling Bannan a ****** or screaming "Dive in you useless ******" at all of our defenders he was trying to provoke the Arse fans from behind a row of stewards. Fair play to the Arse fans for nearly causing said individual to suffer an aneurism by pointing and laughing at him.
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Agree with comments about L8, you can barely hear the Holte from there
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When it comes to judging atmosphere, I think he has a point. I do think you have to be there.
In my opinion, the atmosphere was second only to the Man Utd match.
what you should do is start another "funny" thread and then have to explain to everyone what the "joke" is
"By" "everyone", "you" "mean" "the" "couple" "who" "missed" "it""," "then" "understood" "what" "I" "meant""?"
there was only a "couple" of comments before it was asked...then had to ask where it was....im sure its still up there
but again good effort
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Mindful of our league position and the weather it could have been a lot worse.
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Well I sit in Lower Trinity. I was cold and my seat was wet.
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I was in the lower north and it was a bit quiet in there. Maybe it was the weather? It was utterly grim today.
I *was* in it for two hours!
Try standing in it for two hours.
Not before the match you weren't.
I actually was. It wasn't pleasant. I thought the Holte sounded noisy at times, I was hoping the Paul Lambert claret and blue army chant would catch on where we were because that one sounded ace. As ever the acoustics of the ground probably have a part to play.
It still wasn't the wettest ever. Middlesbrough in 2008 wins that award.
I dont know, Wimbledon away in the FA cup was pretty wet for a Wednesday night, (can't remember the year, but if memory serves we lost to an own goal) I along with about 1500 other villa fans got pissed right through
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There was a rousing rendition of PL's claret and blue army near the end for a few minutes.
Shows most are still behind him.
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I thought the atmosphere sounded good on TV, and heard lots of Villa songs. Have you won the Euro cup etc...
This