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Title: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 19, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/52/bd/0,,10265~8961362,00.jpg)

 ;D

Habib Birthday!
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: andyh on October 19, 2012, 09:20:22 AM
Is that the millionaire footballer,Habib Baye ??
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 19, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Surely the worst signing of recent years, Heskey was shite, but the attitude was there and always gave his all, Habib didn't give a shit
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Post by: Clampy on October 19, 2012, 10:06:51 AM
He was better than Hutton.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: not3bad on October 19, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
When will this day be declared a public holiday, that's what I want to know.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: not3bad on October 19, 2012, 10:08:50 AM
Just looked at his Wiki entry, "currently without a club after being released by Doncaster Rovers".
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 19, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
Major difference between MON signing Beye and Lambert signing Lowton. I can't imagine the financial mess we would be in now if that crazy spending was allowed to continue.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 19, 2012, 10:33:19 AM
He was better than Hutton.

His attitude wasn't.
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Post by: N'ZMAV on October 19, 2012, 10:34:25 AM
He had a birthday every week on his wages at Villa. ******.
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 19, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
Hope he doesn't get any presents then he'll know what its like to see someone not give a shit
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Post by: LionVilla on October 19, 2012, 10:59:48 AM
Habib  happy birthday love!
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Dave on October 19, 2012, 11:04:29 AM
He was better than Hutton.
His attitude wasn't.
I can't really see what more was expected of him. He was given a stupid contract, did perfectly well when played (one out of position aberration against Rapid Vienna aside) only to be dropped for the next dozen or so matches.

It was obviously a ridiculous signing, but I can't see what Beye himself is guilty of in what went wrong.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: peter w on October 19, 2012, 11:55:53 AM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 19, 2012, 12:10:07 PM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.

Bit harsh on Cuellar, but agree with the gist of it.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Legion on October 19, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
Inadequate player, decent individual.
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Post by: Legion on October 19, 2012, 12:20:14 PM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.

With the exception of Cuellar I agree with that.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 19, 2012, 12:27:07 PM
i watched a bit of the season review on MONs first season. He said it was about getting to know the players he had at first and not bring in anyone willy nilly that wouldnt improve the squad .
I refer you to the players listed above and wonder what changed his attitude
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 19, 2012, 01:06:56 PM
He was better than Hutton.
His attitude wasn't.
I can't really see what more was expected of him. He was given a stupid contract, did perfectly well when played (one out of position aberration against Rapid Vienna aside) only to be dropped for the next dozen or so matches.

It was obviously a ridiculous signing, but I can't see what Beye himself is guilty of in what went wrong.

The fact he said he'd never play for us again and would take the 40k a week off us
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: peter w on October 19, 2012, 01:52:26 PM
Maybe for us he said he'd never play for us again because he knew he'd never play for us again?
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 19, 2012, 02:10:36 PM
The irony is he was decent at Newcastle, they really liked him
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Post by: not3bad on October 19, 2012, 02:19:13 PM
The irony is he was decent at Newcastle, they really liked him

Another victim of MON's peerless man management?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 19, 2012, 02:34:36 PM
He was better than Hutton.
His attitude wasn't.
I can't really see what more was expected of him. He was given a stupid contract, did perfectly well when played (one out of position aberration against Rapid Vienna aside) only to be dropped for the next dozen or so matches.

It was obviously a ridiculous signing, but I can't see what Beye himself is guilty of in what went wrong.

The fact he said he'd never play for us again and would take the 40k a week off us

When did he say that? All I remember him supposedly saying was when he was at Doncaster he didn't want to come back. Which considering how long he had been here and how little he had been picked to play isn't surprising.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 19, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.

I'd go along with this, including Cuellar, and I'd even throw in NRC.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: eamonn on October 19, 2012, 03:49:26 PM
Didn't Houllier play him at home to Chelsea, 0-0, this time two years ago? Seem to remember he had a good game, then played a couple of times more and I think that was it. Can't remember if there was a bust-up with GHou or not.

Either way, it would have been best all-round if we hadn't gazumped Hull for his signature when he left Newcastle.
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Post by: Clampy on October 19, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
He always looked to me as if he'd make a better centre half than a right back. I've seen a lot worse players down there.
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Post by: not3bad on October 19, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
Either way, it would have been best all-round if we hadn't gazumped Hull for his signature when he left Newcastle.

Aye.  We gazumped Wigan for Harewood as well didn't we?  Offered him twice the wages or something.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 19, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
He was better than Hutton.
His attitude wasn't.
I can't really see what more was expected of him. He was given a stupid contract, did perfectly well when played (one out of position aberration against Rapid Vienna aside) only to be dropped for the next dozen or so matches.

It was obviously a ridiculous signing, but I can't see what Beye himself is guilty of in what went wrong.

The fact he said he'd never play for us again and would take the 40k a week off us

When did he say that? All I remember him supposedly saying was when he was at Doncaster he didn't want to come back. Which considering how long he had been here and how little he had been picked to play isn't surprising.

Shortly before, I'm pretty certain I seen it through here
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: The Left Side on October 19, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
meh
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: john e on October 19, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
i dont agree with all this crap stuff,
 he always did OK  on the rare occasion he turned out, he was just to old and on a too long contract, i cant rememebr him having a really bad game for villla, i know he didnt play many, but i can remember Hutton and Warnock having massive stinkers.

as for his bad attitude its the first i've heard of it,
 the problem i would have with him is that he probably could have moved elsewhere for less money but money was more important than playing the game, but thats his decision in the end
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 19, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
He was better than Hutton.
His attitude wasn't.
I can't really see what more was expected of him. He was given a stupid contract, did perfectly well when played (one out of position aberration against Rapid Vienna aside) only to be dropped for the next dozen or so matches.

It was obviously a ridiculous signing, but I can't see what Beye himself is guilty of in what went wrong.

The fact he said he'd never play for us again and would take the 40k a week off us

When did he say that? All I remember him supposedly saying was when he was at Doncaster he didn't want to come back. Which considering how long he had been here and how little he had been picked to play isn't surprising.

Shortly before, I'm pretty certain I seen it through here

So it's not really a fact then is it if the only evidence he said it is you think you read it on here.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Mister E on October 19, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
Beye was Barcodes player of the season before we bought him. He was a decent player - just paid too much and underplayed. A  classic MON gaff.

Move on.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: timeoutbigbar on October 19, 2012, 07:23:32 PM
Had a great song though.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: silhillvilla on October 19, 2012, 07:27:07 PM
No anger towards Beye, just MON pubehead.
Met Beye once while he was with us, in a bar (not great I know), seemed an ok bloke, had a very big watch on that was worth about 80k.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 19, 2012, 08:02:02 PM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.

well said PW
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Chipsticks on October 19, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Sunday, Monday, Habib Beye.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 19, 2012, 08:46:54 PM
No anger towards Beye, just MON pubehead.
Met Beye once while he was with us, in a bar (not great I know), seemed an ok bloke, had a very big watch on that was worth about 80k.

Id be ok If I had probably earned about 5,500.000 in wages doing nothing.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 19, 2012, 09:20:56 PM

Was very highly rated at Newcastle. When he signed a couple of fans said he'd be better than Luke Young.

In fairness the few games he did play in the league he did o.k for me. One game he came in against Spurs and got MOTM I think.

Just this sort of signing that sums up what's wrong with modern football and MON's managerial style. Modern football as he was a 40k a week bench warmer.

MON as why the hell did he sign him when he just then decided to play Carlos at RB for most of that season so we had two expensive RBs warming the bench in Young and Beye.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: silhillvilla on October 19, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
From 2013 onwards there will be many more Habib Beyes
Hopefully not at this club though
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: eric woolban woolban on October 19, 2012, 10:26:48 PM
He was better than Hutton.

I'm better than Hutton. Even after the operation to make myself look like a merman by having my legs fused together.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: ez on October 19, 2012, 10:41:01 PM
He was crap. Not bothered about his attitude but he was crap. So were Shorey, Sidwell, Davies, Harewood, Heskey, and Cuellar. All gone and with it our money and optimism. A lot of re-building to do because of O'Neill. Lets not forget who got usinto this and not focus our anger on average players given great wages.

I'd go along with this, including Cuellar, and I'd even throw in NRC.

I'll throw in a Salifou.
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Post by: 1874 on October 19, 2012, 11:11:19 PM
Was Salifou on high wages though? I doubt he was on anything more then 20-25k.
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Post by: eamonn on October 20, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
I doubt he was earning more than 10k. Still, it'll have been much more than he earned before, since or ever again.
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Post by: 1874 on October 20, 2012, 03:31:45 AM
Probably. To be fair to him, he was an integral part of our successful reserve team and I'm sure the likes of Bannan, Albrighton, Clark etc benefited from playing alongside an international.
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Post by: DrGonzo on October 20, 2012, 10:44:47 AM

In fairness the few games he did play in the league he did o.k for me. One game he came in against Spurs and got MOTM I think.


Was it against West Ham that he gave away a penalty, got sent off and we lost 3-1?  I seem to remember.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 20, 2012, 11:59:17 AM

In fairness the few games he did play in the league he did o.k for me. One game he came in against Spurs and got MOTM I think.


Was it against West Ham that he gave away a penalty, got sent off and we lost 3-1?  I seem to remember.

Then Cuellar played the next game and got sent off.
Title: Re: Habib 35th Birthday...
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 20, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
You forgot Warnock, Collins and Dunne as well. Barring a half decent 1st season for Dunne, those 3 were/are utter shit.

Cuellar and NRC were adequate, and would be good enough to be in the current squad, although on lower wages than we paid them back then.
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