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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithe on September 28, 2012, 07:24:28 AM
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From the Daily Mail, he's not negative you know, oh no.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2209617/Alex-McLeish-discusses-difficult-years-Birmingham-Aston-Villa.html
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What a combination, I've elected to leave the link unclicked. I'm sure it's the same sort of stuff we've heard before though.
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This is like when Ellis speaks to the press. Deluded second-snatching. Not worth your time reading it.
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Same as before, nice man, shit manager, hope it works out for him elsewhere. Sure he'll end up back in Scotland sooner or later.
If you look at what Lamberts done with a similar squad then its easy to see he was just way out of his depth.
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McLeish quote.
''As for this suggestion I’m a negative manager, it’s utter tosh.''
So, a shit Manager and a fucking liar to boot.
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I suppose the media will rewrite history so many times we'll have to start believing it.
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It's great to hear that in his dream world he'd still be Blues manager "building a dynasty". And mentioning selling Barry? 2 years before he arrived?? Prick
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Well he didn't have the self awareness to understand the depth of anitpathy towards him based on his style of football because he doesn't think there is anything wrong with his football. How many Fucking goals did we score / look like scoring last season? What a deluded numb fuckwit he is.
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that season ticket holder doing the hugging, DC5 ?
only joshing pal
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Deluded, and feeding the media machine with revisionist rubbish.
Everyone in this surreal world EPL football does it: feed the media with their 'spin' and it sticks because a publication will run with it and print it all as fact.
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It was'nt a bad read actually. With regards to the negativity, i just think he was too scared to lose whilst he was here. Like other's have said, a decent bloke who was in a job he should never have been offered although i don't blame him one bit for taking it.
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McLeish quote.
''As for this suggestion I’m a negative manager, it’s utter tosh.''
So, a shit Manager and a fucking liar to boot.
Yes Alex, utter tosh. The miserable, dour, safety first football you played at Blues and then Villa was a figment of our imagination, and the league table in which you nearly relegated both clubs in consectutive seasons is made up as well. The reality is that your teams played the game with a swashbuckling, cavalier attitude, and were often likened to the Brazil team of the 70s, or the West Brom team under Tony Mowbray.
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"I knew I needed to be out of the job."
Not as much as we needed it, mate!
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Nothing here that wouldn't be expected from a very poor manager who would like another job in football.
But where do they find these ignorant journalists? "In terms of size, the two cities are comparable."
Population of Glasgow - 592,820
Population of Birmingham - 1,016,800
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The problem is, his complaints about us fit nicely with the reputation the press gave us for not giving their chum MoN free-reign to bankrupt us, so they're always going to publish it as fact. It's also a lot easier to say he never stood a chance because if where he came from than it is to say how poorly he did, remember if he gets another club in the prem these guys will want to be on his good side.
The not negative thing is really odd though. I'd have a lot more respect for him if he admitted to being safety first, the argument that he's attacking because he picks X amount of strikers/attacking midfielders and it's not his fault that they don't score just winds me up. The statistics don't lie, the only club where he's averaged over 1.5 goals a game was Rangers, who he took from averaging near 3.5 the season before he joined, to just over 2 in his last season. In the premier league he scrapes just over 1 a game, there is absolutely no way just over a goal a game for 3 1/2 seasons can be pinned completely on the players and bad luck.
The other one that gets me is that we, apparently, were involved in a relegation battle last year because of injuries and, as the article states, blues went down the year before because of injuries, can you really use the same excuse 2 seasons in a row at different clubs and not think maybe you (or your coaches) are responsible?
I get that people think he comes across as a decent guy if you meet him, and he might well be great as a mate, but he's totally deluded when it comes to his ability and record as a football manager. Even in his most successful season as a manager (based on a cup in England being far more important than anything in Scotland) he got relegated. There's a commonly known saying from Albert Einstein about doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results being the definition of insanity which seems to sum eck up pretty well.
Forget his time as our manager, ignore him in the press and let it drift from your memory forever, the likelihood is we won't have to put up with anything like that again any time soon.
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Bit of a contradiction I'd say
'The last day at Norwich was brutal. I knew I needed to be out of the job'.
Prior to that he says
‘I’ll prepare a dossier on what we need to do this summer as quickly as I can,’ said the club’s manager.
But McLeish sensed immediately that a dossier wouldn’t be needed.
It’s not going to happen, is it?’ McLeish said, taking a look at his boss’s face. ‘You don’t have to say it.'
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Bit of a contradiction I'd say. The bloke talks utter shite
'The last day at Norwich was brutal. I knew I needed to be out of the job'.
Prior to that he says
‘I’ll prepare a dossier on what we need to do this summer as quickly as I can,’ said the club’s manager.
But McLeish sensed immediately that a dossier wouldn’t be needed.
It’s not going to happen, is it?’ McLeish said, taking a look at his boss’s face. ‘You don’t have to say it.'
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Bit of a contradiction I'd say
'The last day at Norwich was brutal. I knew I needed to be out of the job'.
Prior to that he says
‘I’ll prepare a dossier on what we need to do this summer as quickly as I can,’ said the club’s manager.
But McLeish sensed immediately that a dossier wouldn’t be needed.
It’s not going to happen, is it?’ McLeish said, taking a look at his boss’s face. ‘You don’t have to say it.'
I think when he says: "I knew I needed to be out of the job," I think he means: "I knew the chairman, the players, the fans, the ground staff, the programme sellers, the stewards, the blokes selling hotdogs and burgers under the Aston Expressway, the publicans of Witton, Newtown and Perry Barr, and anybody who had the remotest speck of interest in watching Match Of The Day without feeling the compulsion to stab themselves in the stomach needed me out of the job."
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Even in the season that Blues finished 9th, they struggled to score an average of one goal a game. He was the very epitome of a cautious, dull manager. What a deluded fool he is.
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He is obviously putting his name forward for Ipswich / Derby jobs, when they become available!!!
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The fucker has put a few lbs on.
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This bit I agree with:-
McLeish adds: ‘Randy Lerner had asked me to work on a project. He said, ‘‘We want you to work with the club, rather than at the club. We must drive wages down while remaining competitive’’. But when you lose the likes of John Carew, Ashley Young, Stewart Downing, Gareth Barry, James Milner ... the quality Villa had out on the pitch was diminishing. It was going to be a tough ask. It was a rebuilding job.
‘I understand, given what happened towards the end of last season, that it was difficult for me to stay. But no-one is able to complete a project of that size in 12 months. I was confident I knew what was needed. There were big changes in my mind ahead of this season. We needed players. An influx of quality. It’s no secret, if you bring in a better quality of player, you produce an improvement in results.
He may have been the wrong man for the job, but the rebuilding he's talking about is true. Lambo has now brought in 8 players, including Holman, and we're all accepting he needs time.
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Even in the season that Blues finished 9th, they struggled to score an average of one goal a game. He was the very epitome of a cautious, dull manager. What a deluded fool he is.
That's the bit I never get when he is interviewed. He's either lying to protect his reputation or completely unselfaware of his own managerial style?
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I was thinking that. And the article said he'd lost weight!
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He's correct that the Norwich game was brutal. The home game against the
baggies (Edit: it was of course Bolton) was bad but the fans en masse really let go that day.
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This bit I agree with:-
McLeish adds: ‘Randy Lerner had asked me to work on a project. He said, ‘‘We want you to work with the club, rather than at the club. We must drive wages down while remaining competitive’’. But when you lose the likes of John Carew, Ashley Young, Stewart Downing, Gareth Barry, James Milner ... the quality Villa had out on the pitch was diminishing. It was going to be a tough ask. It was a rebuilding job.
‘I understand, given what happened towards the end of last season, that it was difficult for me to stay. But no-one is able to complete a project of that size in 12 months. I was confident I knew what was needed. There were big changes in my mind ahead of this season. We needed players. An influx of quality. It’s no secret, if you bring in a better quality of player, you produce an improvement in results.
He may have been the wrong man for the job, but the rebuilding he's talking about is true. Lambo has now brought in 8 players, including Holman, and we're all accepting he needs time.
Barry was sold ages before and replaced in part by Sidwell in advance and latterly Downing and Delph to various degrees. But in terms of the other four they were on paper replaced with 4 good quality players for decent money, not bargain basement players,
Bent 24 mill, Makoun 6 mill, Ireland 8 mill, N'Zogbia 9.5 mill. The fact McLeish got soo little out of them reflects more on him than the quality of those 4, which when signed was not really in question.
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Wrong man, wrong place, wrong time, wrong club, wrong universe, just wrong.
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Nothing here that wouldn't be expected from a very poor manager who would like another job in football.
But where do they find these ignorant journalists? "In terms of size, the two cities are comparable."
Population of Glasgow - 592,820
Population of Birmingham - 1,016,800
Depends on your definition of Glasgow city. They've been comparable in size for most of their history. Anyway, wrong man, wrong club, wrong time. He's touting for his next job and no manager is ever going to not make excuses for their failings.
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The Bolton game at home put that final nail in his coffin
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He needs to stop talking about it all now, move on Mcleish.
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'The last day at Norwich was brutal. I knew I needed to be out of the job'.
Prior to that he says
‘I’ll prepare a dossier on what we need to do this summer as quickly as I can,’ said the club’s manager.
What a load of tosh, I am sure after the Bolton game he knew his time was up. He was the wrong man at the wrong time. I suppose he wants a way back in to football as soon as a manager gets the sack, perhaps the Ipswich job?
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This bit I agree with:-
McLeish adds: ‘Randy Lerner had asked me to work on a project. He said, ‘‘We want you to work with the club, rather than at the club. We must drive wages down while remaining competitive’’. But when you lose the likes of John Carew, Ashley Young, Stewart Downing, Gareth Barry, James Milner ... the quality Villa had out on the pitch was diminishing. It was going to be a tough ask. It was a rebuilding job.
‘I understand, given what happened towards the end of last season, that it was difficult for me to stay. But no-one is able to complete a project of that size in 12 months. I was confident I knew what was needed. There were big changes in my mind ahead of this season. We needed players. An influx of quality. It’s no secret, if you bring in a better quality of player, you produce an improvement in results.
He may have been the wrong man for the job, but the rebuilding he's talking about is true. Lambo has now brought in 8 players, including Holman, and we're all accepting he needs time.
Barry was sold ages before and replaced in part by Sidwell in advance and latterly Downing and Delph to various degrees. But in terms of the other four they were on paper replaced with 4 good quality players for decent money, not bargain basement players,
Bent 24 mill, Makoun 6 mill, Ireland 8 mill, N'Zogbia 9.5 mill. The fact McLeish got soo little out of them reflects more on him than the quality of those 4, which when signed was not really in question.
I would never argue he shouldn't have got more out of what he had, but compare the players we lost after finishing 9th under Houllier, who we then bought and the transfer profit made. Quite simply, we had gone backwards and needed to shed a few more high earners before we had room to start buying again. What we saw under Lambo this summer was necessary no matter who was in charge.
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This bit I agree with:-
McLeish adds: ‘Randy Lerner had asked me to work on a project. He said, ‘‘We want you to work with the club, rather than at the club. We must drive wages down while remaining competitive’’. But when you lose the likes of John Carew, Ashley Young, Stewart Downing, Gareth Barry, James Milner ... the quality Villa had out on the pitch was diminishing. It was going to be a tough ask. It was a rebuilding job.
He may have been the wrong man for the job, but the rebuilding he's talking about is true. Lambo has now brought in 8 players, including Holman, and we're all accepting he needs time.
Yes it was a rebuilding job but three of the names he mentioned were already gone when he arrived and he knew Ashley was going when he joined. I won't pin Nzogbia on him as we were all clamouring for him as a replacement for Young, even before we knew TSM had the job. I will blame him for bringing in Hutton though, and Sicknote on loan was always going to end badly.
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Whatever he says, his side would have gone out of the League Cup with a wimper at Man City with tonne of excuses to boot.
Thank God he's gone.
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It's crazy that he says the perception of him being a negative manager is rubbish. Alex just look at the statistics it's clear you're a negative manager, you're entire career in England shows that.
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Nice enough bloke, hopelessly out of his depth at Villa. I think he knows that aswell.
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He needs to stop talking about it all now, move on Mcleish.
Agreed........us too.
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I understand it is every man's right to defend himself, even in football, but McLeish always seems to have someone, or something, else to blame rather than himself.
To hear him still state he's not a negative manager is absurd.
I can think of plenty of really crap Villa sides in my time, but I struggle to conjure up one which was as embarassing as McLeish's.
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Nothing here that wouldn't be expected from a very poor manager who would like another job in football.
But where do they find these ignorant journalists? "In terms of size, the two cities are comparable."
Population of Glasgow - 592,820
Population of Birmingham - 1,016,800
Depends on your definition of Glasgow city. They've been comparable in size for most of their history. Anyway, wrong man, wrong club, wrong time. He's touting for his next job and no manager is ever going to not make excuses for their failings.
Not really sure of what different definitions of Glasgow city there are, although I am sure the figure doesn't include the Clyde Valley.
However, I just took the most up-to-date figure from the official Scotland website. Likewise for Brum.
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I'm not that bothered about him talking about it, whatever you think of the man he managed,albeit unsuccessfully, one of the greatest clubs in English football, who wouldn't want to talk about that?
Edit to add he also managed the shittiest, he should definitely keep schtum about that.
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I understand it is every man's right to defend himself, even in football, but McLeish always seems to have someone, or something, else to blame rather than himself.
To hear him still state he's not a negative manager is absurd.
I can think of plenty of really crap Villa sides in my time, but I struggle to conjure up one which was as embarassing as McLeish's.
In fairness to him, at least he's not name dropping the likes of Mourinho and Capello like our old mate DOL.
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We probably need to stop talking about him now too.
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Nothing here that wouldn't be expected from a very poor manager who would like another job in football.
But where do they find these ignorant journalists? "In terms of size, the two cities are comparable."
Population of Glasgow - 592,820
Population of Birmingham - 1,016,800
Depends on your definition of Glasgow city. They've been comparable in size for most of their history. Anyway, wrong man, wrong club, wrong time. He's touting for his next job and no manager is ever going to not make excuses for their failings.
Not really sure of what different definitions of Glasgow city there are, although I am sure the figure doesn't include the Clyde Valley.
However, I just took the most up-to-date figure from the official Scotland website. Likewise for Brum.
Greater Glasgow includes great chunks of the city that were taken out during local government reorganisation. I also think that Glasgow's population shrank more than anywhere else in Europe during the sixties as whole swathes of the city were redeveloped and the populace moved to areas that were technically outside the city boundary but were still considered as Glasgow. It's a bit like Chelmsley being part of Solihull but on a bigger scale.
Not that it means all that much, but I think it's fair to say they are comparable cities.
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If he'd have signed Gylfi Sigurdsson he'd have played him at right back
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I'm going to feel so sorry for the supporters of the next club he 'manages'
As a Manager he's about as effective as a catflap in an elephant house.
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If he'd have signed Gylfi Sigurdsson he'd have played him at right back
Nah, that was MON Phil.
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A truly ridiculous interview with a man as personable as a genital wart
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Not a negative manager... my arse.
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"I knew I needed to be out of the job."
Err...did you think about resigning? It usually works....
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It was'nt a bad read actually. With regards to the negativity, i just think he was too scared to lose whilst he was here. Like other's have said, a decent bloke who was in a job he should never have been offered although i don't blame him one bit for taking it.
Agree entirely clampy, well said!
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Possible title for an essay.
Which was the worst Villa manager? McNeil or McLeish? Discuss.
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Possible title for an essay.
Which was the worst Villa manager? McNeil or McLeish? Discuss.
We did that to death last season. The answer is McNeil. Simply because McLeish, despite the litany of excuses, did ultimately care. McNeil didn't give a f*ck.
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He could have signed Sigurdsson, Messi, Falcao, Drogba, Torres, Villa, Van Persie, Rooney, Balotelli and Tevez and played them all but then telling them to sit back in their own half and defend would not make it an attacking line up. If he really, genuinely thinks he isn't negative, someone should show him, and ask him to explain, a video of the shameful, embarrassing away game at Spurs. Or the home games against both Manchester clubs. Or him punching the air with delight after securing a draw with Wigan. He is either thick, a liar or deluded, or all three. But he just doesn't get it.
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Bothered
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Basically the same as in that sky article from a few weeks ago although he's now changed it saying he wanted Sigurdsson in January not at the end of the season.
Only smart thing he did was deciding not to venture into Brum City centre that often, wise move.
I'm just happy within time he'll become a forgetful footnote in our history.
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He could have signed Sigurdsson, Messi, Falcao, Drogba, Torres, Villa, Van Persie, Rooney, Balotelli and Tevez and played them all but then telling them to sit back in their own half and defend would not make it an attacking line up. If he really, genuinely thinks he isn't negative, someone should show him, and ask him to explain, a video of the shameful, embarrassing away game at Spurs. Or the home games against both Manchester clubs. Or him punching the air with delight after securing a draw with Wigan. He is either thick, a liar or deluded, or all three. But he just doesn't get it.
This
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If he'd have signed Gylfi Sigurdsson he'd have played him at right back
Nah, that was MON Phil.
Haha true, at least Mon got some results
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"I knew I needed to be out of the job."
Err...did you think about resigning? It usually works....
He wouldn't have got the compo then...
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I reckon he'll end up at Blackburn.
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It's great to hear that in his dream world he'd still be Blues manager "building a dynasty". And mentioning selling Barry? 2 years before he arrived?? Prick
I think what he was getting at was that the club was selling their better players for quite a while, even before he arrived.
I do believe he was the wrong choice, but I also believe that most managers would have struggled with us last season.
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"I knew I needed to be out of the job."
Err...did you think about resigning? It usually works....
He wouldn't have got the compo then...
He had as much luck trying to score with Nora Batty as we had on the pitch last season.
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It was'nt a bad read actually. With regards to the negativity, i just think he was too scared to lose whilst he was here. Like other's have said, a decent bloke who was in a job he should never have been offered although i don't blame him one bit for taking it.
Agree entirely clampy, well said!
Agree
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About the one and only highlight of last season - or at least the only one that remains in my memory most [even more so than beating Chelsea away] - is Andreas Weimann's last minute goal against Fulham.
I'm wondering what the best 2 restaurants are he refers to in the article. Guessing one of them is Purnell's, as know the owner of that one is a SHA fan. Anyone any idea what the other one is?
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About the one and only highlight of last season - or at least the only one that remains in my memory most [even more so than beating Chelsea away] - is Andreas Weimann's last minute goal against Fulham.
I'm wondering what the best 2 restaurants are he refers to in the article. Guessing one of them is Purnell's, as know the owner of that one is a SHA fan. Anyone any idea what the other one is?
The McDonalds by the Sty probably.
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It was'nt a bad read actually. With regards to the negativity, i just think he was too scared to lose whilst he was here. Like other's have said, a decent bloke who was in a job he should never have been offered although i don't blame him one bit for taking it.
Agree entirely clampy, well said!
Agree
Yep I agree with this. But if only he tried to win instead. He might just have done ok. Instead though it will go down in history as one hell of a dull period by TSM.
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I gifted you that one ;). PWS that is.
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I gifted you that one ;)
Not even a McLeish side could miss that open goal.
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I reckon he'll end up at Blackburn.
Steve Kean > McLeish
Rovers fans will love that.
Out of the frying pan, into the blast furnace.
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I reckon he'll end up at Blackburn.
Steve Kean > McLeish
Rovers fans will love that.
Out of the frying pan, into the blast furnace.
The sadistic part of my psyche says I hope that happens.
I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish. He's one of a number of hopeless managers sat on the gravy train that gives pretty useless individuals, whose faces fit, extremely well paid jobs at decent football clubs, jobs they're totally not up to.
All I've heard from McLeish since we got shot of him is how it wasn't his fault, it was the fans, it was the mean owner, it was the weather, it was in the stars, anything except taking a bit of responsibility himself.
He might not have got us relegated - although he very, very nearly did - but he gave us the most horrific season to watch and, more than any manager for a very long time, made me want to stop watching Villa, and, even worse, made me embarassed of the club.
I hope he gets the Blackburn job and falls flat on his face. Try explaining that one off as down to the fans not liking you.
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The job he took over was a tough one, but not more so than the one Lambert took one. No mention in the article that he (McLeish) was made the worlds 20th highest paid manager in exchange for turning around such a down at heel club.
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The thing that I really don't understand is why was he ever given the job? It was so obvious what was going to happen. Last season was like watching a car crash in slow motion. It was pure Newtonian physics. The only thing more predictable was the football we played.
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I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish.
I agree, the man is a self serving prick.
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I reckon he'll end up at Blackburn.
Steve Kean > McLeish
Rovers fans will love that.
Out of the frying pan, into the blast furnace.
The sadistic part of my psyche says I hope that happens.
I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish. He's one of a number of hopeless managers sat on the gravy train that gives pretty useless individuals, whose faces fit, extremely well paid jobs at decent football clubs, jobs they're totally not up to.
All I've heard from McLeish since we got shot of him is how it wasn't his fault, it was the fans, it was the mean owner, it was the weather, it was in the stars, anything except taking a bit of responsibility himself.
He might not have got us relegated - although he very, very nearly did - but he gave us the most horrific season to watch and, more than any manager for a very long time, made me want to stop watching Villa, and, even worse, made me embarassed of the club.
I hope he gets the Blackburn job and falls flat on his face. Try explaining that one off as down to the fans not liking you.
Absolutely 100% this.
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I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish.
I agree, the man is a self serving prick.
Me too.Dumping a club by e-mail after relegating them is not my idea of a nice guy. I resent the way he was always referring to the elite teams and knowing he was not going to attempt to compete ,slowly but surely zapping the confidence of the whole team, A total and utter coward . Balls of steel,my arse. Just a greedy fecker
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I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish.
I agree, the man is a self serving prick.
Me too.Dumping a club by e-mail after relegating them is not my idea of a nice guy. I resent the way he was always referring to the elite teams and knowing he was not going to attempt to compete ,slowly but surely zapping the confidence of the whole team, A total and utter coward . Balls of steel,my arse. Just a greedy fecker
Agree with all three posts.
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I think this thread should be looked at by social services as it is wrong to allow people to openly discuss a period of there life where they have been psycholgically/emotionally abused. Lerner/Faulkner should issue a "counselling" video stating it was there fault and re assuring us it will not happen again. Though appointing Lambert has helped enormously in our recovery :-))))
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I also don't buy into this "nice guy" bollocks with McLeish.
I agree, the man is a self serving prick.
Me too.Dumping a club by e-mail after relegating them is not my idea of a nice guy. I resent the way he was always referring to the elite teams and knowing he was not going to attempt to compete ,slowly but surely zapping the confidence of the whole team, A total and utter coward . Balls of steel,my arse. Just a greedy fecker
Agree with all three posts.
We only have Pannu's word for that, and even the blues fans reckon he's a pathological liar.
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I'm pretty sure McLeish didn't deny it In fact I'm sure he confirmed it was true He said that he backed it up the next day With a hard copy
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I bet he had a few quid on himself to NOT be Aston Villa manager at the start of this season.
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McLeish belongs to the band of old style former British players for whom tactical innovation and developing young players are alien concepts. All they have is an overrated ability to get the best out of technically limited wholehearted players and depend on luck pretty much with new signings. The likes of Peter Reid, Bryan Robson, Gary Megson, Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce are in the same boat. Give them a few quid and they will do ok in the Championship but anything more and they will struggle
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I'm not sure Big Sam deserves to be bracketed there, his teams are shit to watch but he was innovative at Bolton in the way he revamped the club and embraced sports science.
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I'm not sure Big Sam deserves to be bracketed there, his teams are shit to watch but he was innovative at Bolton in the way he revamped the club and embraced sports science.
I was going to say that. Allardyce worked miracles at Bolton.
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I'm not sure Big Sam deserves to be bracketed there, his teams are shit to watch but he was innovative at Bolton in the way he revamped the club and embraced sports science.
I was going to say that. Allardyce worked miracles at Bolton.
Allardyce certainly did things differently at Bolton, but what he did was still underpinned by an unsustainable transfer policy that ultimately had the club on its back.
I'd put him in the same group as Robson, Bruce, ONeill et al.
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McLeish has never been a premier league standard manager but somehow he has lucked his way to two premier league managers jobs and is now desperately trying to keep himself regarded as one.
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McLeish belongs to the band of old style former British players for whom tactical innovation and developing young players are alien concepts. All they have is an overrated ability to get the best out of technically limited wholehearted players and depend on luck pretty much with new signings. The likes of Peter Reid, Bryan Robson, Gary Megson, Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce are in the same boat. Give them a few quid and they will do ok in the Championship but anything more and they will struggle
Replace Allardyce with McCarthy, and I'd agree although I'm not sure Megson is even up to Championship standard. McCarthy repeatedly left out Fletcher, a regular scorer, and then wondered why Wolves struggled.
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I'm pretty sure McLeish didn't deny it In fact I'm sure he confirmed it was true He said that he backed it up the next day With a hard copy
Mcleish has admitted in interviews that he did quit by e mail while on holiday- no doubt about that at all and he never denied the fact in any way.