Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: paulcomben on September 27, 2012, 08:20:56 PM
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From the OS News:
Villa's home kit has achieved the best sales for ten years while the away top has achieved a six-year high in figures too.
Why?
Debate.
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New manufacturer - I'd imagine the first season of any new manufacturer generally sells better as kids don't want to be seen wearing "the old shirt".
Unusual kits always sell well too - that's why the away kit has done so well. The stripey home top we had in the mid-90s was one of the best selling replica tops we've ever had.
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People like it?
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It also helps if they're available to buy and not stuck in a factory in Thailand or wherever awaiting despatch.
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It could be due the Paul Lambert factor?
Or to put it another way, the absence of Alex McLeish factor.
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It also helps if they're available to buy and not stuck in a factory in Thailand or wherever awaiting despatch.
I agree with the above, The first time in a few years we have managed to get the holiday wear market sales. But the main consideration will be if these figures are from the manufacturer or just from club sales. If the latter, wasn't it hard to source apart from official channels?
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Happier consumer innit? People went into last season rather gloomy and it translates accordingly in merchandise sales or not as the case was. Football fans by nature are gluttons for punishment so even with TSM in charge there would have been some who still wanted to buy the kits. This season started at the end of last with the dismissal of TSM and with it the lifting of clouds and everything just seemed better. Add in a new kit manufacturer (many had grown weary of Nike treating us like bollocks), a kit delivered on time, a stylish home kit, and an away kit colour that is really unique, and you have a combination of factors why the mood is better and the sales are up.
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I havent bought a shirt in years...I'm still pondering whether or not to buy this one.
I would say the increase in sales is due to the return of the feel good factor that has been installed by the appointment of PL and pretty much everyone buying into the new philosophy...for the first time in years we may actually be seeing the birth of the "bright future" that Randy has been trying to sell us since he came in.
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Very surprising as the MON years and the Nike deal had a much bigger 'feel good factor' about them.
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It could be due the Paul Lambert factor?
Or to put it another way, the absence of Alex McLeish factor.
Yeah,this could be a big factor,everything is on a positive compared to last season. Personally,im not a big fan of the shirt,but like others i dont buy a shirt anymore.
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Nice kit and positive optimism.
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I got an email saying I could get free printing on shirts for new signings....so I bought my first home shirt since the FA Cup Final in 2000.
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
Then it would look even better, you should post a pic of it
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Usually only had about two weeks of sales by now. I note Blues new kit only came out today.
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Usually only had about two weeks of sales by now. I note Blues new kit only came out today.
is that the pink one?
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Happier consumer innit? People went into last season rather gloomy and it translates accordingly in merchandise sales or not as the case was. Football fans by nature are gluttons for punishment so even with TSM in charge there would have been some who still wanted to buy the kits. This season started at the end of last with the dismissal of TSM and with it the lifting of clouds and everything just seemed better. Add in a new kit manufacturer (many had grown weary of Nike treating us like bollocks), a kit delivered on time, a stylish home kit, and an away kit colour that is really unique, and you have a combination of factors why the mood is better and the sales are up.
All that makes sense, but I am still surprised we didn't sell more when we had Nike as our supplier, and were doing even better (let's not forget, we've not had the most exciting of starts this season).
Obv in the years when they actually bothered getting the kit into the shops for us.
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Yeah, I'd be surprised if, when they compare year-on-year next summer, if it's still ahead of the 07/08 and 08/09 models.
Still, nice news all the same. Isn't our season-ticket register the best it's been since 07/08 aswell? A lot of dormant Villa fans just crying out for a bit of hope it would seem.
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Happier consumer innit? People went into last season rather gloomy and it translates accordingly in merchandise sales or not as the case was. Football fans by nature are gluttons for punishment so even with TSM in charge there would have been some who still wanted to buy the kits. This season started at the end of last with the dismissal of TSM and with it the lifting of clouds and everything just seemed better. Add in a new kit manufacturer (many had grown weary of Nike treating us like bollocks), a kit delivered on time, a stylish home kit, and an away kit colour that is really unique, and you have a combination of factors why the mood is better and the sales are up.
All that makes sense, but I am still surprised we didn't sell more when we had Nike as our supplier, and were doing even better (let's not forget, we've not had the most exciting of starts this season).
Obv in the years when they actually bothered getting the kit into the shops for us.
My feeling is the kit itself as much as how they treated us got worse over the years. I love the Acorns sponsored kit. Great design, nice material and with it a good team at a time we were all happily bobbing along. Then many things started to turn sour, players started to leave, MON became more infuriating, the home games got worse, a malaise started to set in, the General bailed. I'm not saying there is a direct correlation, but this season seems like a complete detachment from that period.
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From the OS News:
...the away top has achieved a six-year high in figures too.
Why?
Debate.
We wanna glow in the dark,
We glow in the dark
We're Aston Villa
We glow in the dark
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I remember hearing that the first nike kit was the best selling Villa shirt ever, so I'm surprised that the current shirt is the best seller in ten years.
I'm struggling to think what shirt we had 10 years ago, was it the diadora one?
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10 years ago - 2002/2003 was the first Diadora / Rover one. Probably one of the best kits of the last 10 years in my book. Shame about a couple of the results that season that will be forever associated with it.
How could we have not beaten them wearing that thing of beauty?
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I don't believe a word of this story about the away kit being a best seller.
PR bollocks, if you ask me.
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I've seen loads of people in the away kit, so I believe it. I was up town the day it went on sale and the amount of lime I saw around was fantastic.
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You're probably right
I'd just prefer to think that Villa fans have got a bit more style about them than to walk around town in a day-glo green, nylon fire hazard.
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
Then it would look even better, you should post a pic of it
The bits on the shoulder's are starting to fall off mine too. It's only had 2 washes. I'm going to see if I prefer it without them before deciding on returning it. I got it from the club shop but I might have to check if Mike Ashley's empire require receipts for returns :)
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
Thank God :P
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Good design
having it ready for sale prior to the holidays
the launch event
better communications with us fans
higher expectations of this season
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I'd just prefer to think that Villa fans have got a bit more style about them than to walk around town in a day-glo green, nylon fire hazard.
I am desperate to get one. I could trundle round Hoxton on a tricycle and wearing a top hat, being ironic
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You're probably right
I'd just prefer to think that Villa fans have got a bit more style about them than to walk around town in a day-glo green, nylon fire hazard.
Have to agree.
It looks fucking awful.
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I remember hearing that the first nike kit was the best selling Villa shirt ever, so I'm surprised that the current shirt is the best seller in ten years.
I'm struggling to think what shirt we had 10 years ago, was it the diadora one?
It's probably got something to do with us actually getting the shirts in the stores much earlier in the summer than we did when we were with Nike. I just think this is a bit of PR from the club because they know just how awful the Macron kits are.
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The sales are all well and good, but I wonder how much money they're making off it when you consider returns. Say what you like about Nike when it comes to the designs, but the quality was spot on, the Macron shirt is the shittest manufactured clothing I've ever bought.
The first one had the Macron sponsor peeling off after 2 washes, and the stitching around the collar was coming undone. I took it back and got it swapped (during the week, and there was still a bunch of other people having to do the same..). The new one has had 3 washes and it's peeling again. This time I'll be getting a refund instead.
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I don't mind the away. It's different and it's not attempting to be particularly stylish or whatever.
The home is the worst we've had in a few years though, for me. Probably pre-Nike.
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If you wash the shirt at 30 degrees with no fabric softener then it stays as good as new. I've washed my home and away shirts multiple times already and there hasn't been any peeling.
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If you wash the shirt at 30 degrees with no fabric softener then it stays as good as new. I've washed my home and away shirts multiple times already and there hasn't been any peeling.
I tried that with the second, after reading in other threads about this problem. It doesn't seem to have helped. Maybe there's just a difference in quality between different batches.
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If you wash the shirt at 30 degrees with no fabric softener then it stays as good as new. I've washed my home and away shirts multiple times already and there hasn't been any peeling.
I tried that with the second, after reading in other threads about this problem. It doesn't seem to have helped. Maybe there's just a difference in quality between different batches.
Hmmm you're right that would suggest that the printing isn't as good on some shirts. I like to collect old shirts and the quality on them is infinitely better. The sponsors aren't printed like they are now and the general feel of them is much better (although I do think this seasons is better quality than last)
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I'd just prefer to think that Villa fans have got a bit more style about them than to walk around town in a day-glo green, nylon fire hazard.
I am desperate to get one. I could trundle round Hoxton on a tricycle and wearing a top hat, being ironic
The rise of the idiots.
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If you wash the shirt at 30 degrees with no fabric softener then it stays as good as new. I've washed my home and away shirts multiple times already and there hasn't been any peeling.
What's the world coming to. I thought this was a forum for real men to make disgusting/irreverant/infantile/purile remarks about footballers and their fans. Not some namby pamby gossip column about domestic science.
What's happened to the days of "Come and have a go if you think your hard enough"?
Now it seems to be "please don't hit me you'll crease my nicely ironed shirt"
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I'm a bit sceptical about all this stuff coming from the club about how well the strip is selling. Given that the quality appears to be questionable and the colours all wrong I'd be surprised if its' really selling as well as they claim. Unless they are counting replacements for crap shirts as further sales. And that little Pravda piece from Bannan about how he loved the away shirt and how it was flying off the shelves just smacked of a desperate PR stunt, trying to talk it up. Maybe the age of "it's not how it is but how it looks" fabrication has made me too much of a cynic.
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All these negative comments on the quality of the shirt have convinced me to purchase my preferred alternative claret and blue branded polo shirt instead.
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
Then it would look even better, you should post a pic of it
The bits on the shoulder's are starting to fall off mine too. It's only had 2 washes. I'm going to see if I prefer it without them before deciding on returning it. I got it from the club shop but I might have to check if Mike Ashley's empire require receipts for returns :)
I contacted Macron Ireland today(€20 cheaper for me to buy from them than from the on-line Villa store ) and told them,they said send it back and they will replace it.
Is there much point if the same thing will happen the replacement shirt ?
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Nice kit all right and after 6-7 washes the Macron logos have finally fallen off the sleeves.
Then it would look even better, you should post a pic of it
The bits on the shoulder's are starting to fall off mine too. It's only had 2 washes. I'm going to see if I prefer it without them before deciding on returning it. I got it from the club shop but I might have to check if Mike Ashley's empire require receipts for returns :)
I contacted Macron Ireland today(€20 cheaper for me to buy from them than from the on-line Villa store ) and told them,they said send it back and they will replace it.
Is there much point if the same thing will happen the replacement shirt ?
Only if they replace your replica top every 3 matches throughout the rest of the season, if not, no!
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Tip of the day - Don't wash it ???