Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: DrGonzo on September 19, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
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cock. From the pages of F365, Mediawatch:
"Pointless
Mediawatch would like to put Paul Lambert in a room with Tony Adams and then sit back and watch Adams tell the Scot that there is simply no 'point' to his job as Aston Villa boss.
Adams - currently working as an 'advisor' to Gabala FC in Azerbaijan - has given a 'wide-ranging interview' to the Evening Standard which features such insight as that Arsenal have 'become a feeder club and it's like different levels of clubs all of a sudden'. And yes, he did say 'all of a sudden' - just seven years since they sold Patrick Vieira.
But he saves the pure gold for speculation about his own future...
"I've done the lower leagues and it's a different style of managing," he said. "No disrespect but I don't want to be Swansea boss, either. They probably don't want me. Aston Villa? What's the point? What can you do with them? So it's the Arsenal or nothing and I'm not ready for that."
So Adams - whose spells in English football are limited to Wycombe and Portsmouth with a combined record of 16 wins in 75 games - would turn down the manager's job at Aston Villa because there's no 'point'. AFter all, what can you do with Villa? Apart from re-establish them as a top-half Premier League club, challenge for domestic trophies and perhaps build your own reputation as a manager, presumably.
But of course he doesn't need to build his reputation...
"My reputation as a coach is very good in Holland," boasted Adams. "I worked there for a long time at Feyenoord and Utrecht as a first team coach."
Mediawatch is loath to entirely trust Wikipedia so we shall offer this extract from Adams' page with a small pinch of salt: 'In July 2005, Adams accepted a trainee coaching role with Dutch side Feyenoord with special responsibility for its Jong team, which is a reserve/junior side. Adams later had a short spell seconded to Utrecht as a first team trainee coach in January and February 2006.'
Pinch of salt, yes - but does it sound like Adams spent 'a long time at Feyenoord and Utrecht as a first team coach', to you? You keep waiting for that Arsenal phone call, Tony.
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He's a pissed up useless twat. Fuck him.
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Didn't Tony Adams bomb out of the manager's job at a lower league club? And now it's Arsenal or nothing?
Must be something they put in the water to give Arsenal players a certain attitude. Look at O'Leary.
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Don't worry Tony, I don't think you'll ever be asked to manage a club as big as Villa even in any amount of alcoholic stupers you may experience.
You fucking bollocks talking, BFG looking, piss artist freak.
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He'd be a shoe in for the Blackpool job.
No one finer for the donkeys at Blackpool Pleb Beach to learn from et.c
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Please give him the Arsenal job! I think he deserves his chance!
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What's the point in Tony Adams? Is the real issue here
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He'd be a shoe in for the Blackpool job.
No one finer for the donkeys at Blackpool Pleb Beach to learn from et.c
And they could pay him in carrots. But, as we told him some years ago in his playing days..
"what a waste of carrots".
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Apart from Swansea and Villa fans being gutted that they have to put up with Laudrup and Lambert because Big Tone doesn't want to manage us, what an impressive way for him to put in his Arsenal job application. "Arsenal have become a feeder club. It's Arsenal or nothing for me but I'm not ready for that".
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Probably drunk
I hear he is drinking again
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He was the first of that generation to do an autobiography. I thought this might be an interesting read what with all his drinking exploits, car crashes, time in prison and some background insight about Arsenal's success.
After two chapters I couldn't care less about him. Being very badly written was one thing but the content, just repetitive "poor me, woe is me, poor me". Twat.
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Eat what's on your plate, Tony. A consultancy role in Azerbaijan.
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He's been out on the lash with Paul (I want to manage Newcastle United only) Gascoigne
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I assume Savage and him must be related?
Spot the brain cell because I certainly can't...
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He's not the first ex- Woolwich Arsenal centre back to have delusions about his managerial ability is he?
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Not really interested in what he has to say, if he chooses to disrespect numerous clubs so be it. Pointless nutcase, he couldn't get a job at a League 1 club let alone a premier league club.
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I have sympathy for the demons he has to battle, but as with many people, having an addiction doesn't stop you being a tit. Some people just aren't cut out for football management, and he's one of them.
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Like Risso, I also have sympathy for his demons, having to battle a twat like Tony Adams.
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Full interview
Tony Adams today branded Arsenal “a feeder club” and insisted they will never win the Champions League unless they change their mentality on and off the pitch.
In a wide-ranging interview with Standard Sport, the former Gunners and England captain revealed the extent of his frustration at seven trophyless seasons which he believes is explained by the regular departure of leading stars and a lack of professionalism among the players.
Adams retired in 2002 having spent 19 years at the club and will tonight begin work as a Sky Sports pundit covering the Gunners’ European opener against Montpellier in France.
And although the 45-year-old is confident Arsenal will start their Group B campaign with a victory at the Stade de la Mosson, he claimed Arsene Wenger will have to modify the club’s playing style to ensure they are more resilient before lifting the one major trophy that has so far eluded the Gunners boss.
“I expect Arsenal to roll them over because I don’t think Montpellier are the talent they were last year,” he said. “This time last year, it would have been a very interesting game. It’s a bit like us playing Manchester United before we sold our centre-forward, Robin van Persie, to them.
“It’s the same scenario with Montpellier and Olivier Giroud — we’ve become a feeder club and it’s like different levels of clubs all of a sudden.
“My experience is that when you play away from home in Europe, it is very important to be resilient and Arsenal are not known for being resilient.
“That can change but I’d say that in games they haven’t won, they haven’t done a professional job.
“We’ve not had the greatest success in Europe but I do feel that the whole team have got to be defensively solid away from home and I don’t think it is in a lot of these guys’ nature. Hence, when you open up, you can concede.
“There is no way in a million years Arsene is going to change his philosophy but I don’t think this team are good enough to win it.
“I expect them to score goals but they cannot win the Champions League with their current mentality. I hope they prove me wrong but against the better teams I think they will fall short again.
“I am not alone here — I think most of the Arsenal fans would agree with me. Strange things happen, like Chelsea winning with not the greatest team in the world, but they did have the whole team fighting to keep clean sheets.
“To actually think you are going to play Barcelona or Real Madrid off the pitch . . . I don’t think this team are good enough to do that.
“I think they will beat Montpellier but in recent years you just fear they cannot go away from home and do a professional job.
“The thing is, they have to do it for two or three years before they get that reputation back as a resilient side.
“They have sent out the wrong message piece by piece for seven years and it chips away at your credibility. Selling your best players is part of that.”
Adams is working in Azerbaijan as an advisor to Gabala FC, whom he also briefly managed last season. Although not in a rush to return to the Premier League, Adams admits he ultimately would like to take charge at Emirates Stadium in the future.
“I’ve done the lower leagues and it’s a different style of managing,” he said. “No disrespect but I don’t want to be Swansea boss, either. They probably don’t want me. Aston Villa? What’s the point? What can you do with them? So it’s the Arsenal or nothing and I’m not ready for that.
“But I’d love to manage Arsenal one day. Not at the moment because they have a very good manager who is off selling all their best players so I’d better not go there next week!
“I need something in between, maybe in Europe. My reputation as a coach is very good in Holland.
“I worked there for a long time at Feyenoord and Utrecht as a first team coach. If a mid-table team became available in Holland, although I wouldn’t do it in England because of my playing career, I would do it there.
“I see some managers that would take any club and get on the conveyor belt but it is not for me. I’d rather go and watch my kids play football.”
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He's not the first ex- Woolwich Arsenal centre back to have delusions about his managerial ability is he?
The one positive thing I would say about both of them is that they buggered off thousands of miles away. Although one of them has always kept his favourite residence located up the Irish FA's backsides just in case.
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He's probably just bitter that we upset his mate O'Dreary, who was doing a sterling job under difficult circumstances until we hounded him out.
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Good job Lambert doesn't feel like that about his mate Mcleish.
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Never bought into the new man nonsense where Adams is concerned. He suddenly reinvented himself as a deep thinking, poetry reading, piano playing new man but he just seemed a complete thicko to me. Bloody useless football manager too, hope he does get the Arsenal job.
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Almost as annoying as that other pseudo intellectual twerp Joseph Barton.
Neither are poster boys for abstinence.
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Never bought into the new man nonsense where Adams is concerned. He suddenly reinvented himself as a deep thinking, poetry reading, piano playing new man but he just seemed a complete thicko to me. Bloody useless football manager too, hope he does get the Arsenal job.
but he never said anything insightful he wanted to come across as Oscar Wilde but came across more like Kim
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He sounds bitter (pun intended)to me.
Probably applied for both the Swansea and Villa job and got the knock back.
cnut
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If he is back on the pop then it's a shame for him. However, it just goes to show how much shit you're liable to talk when pissed up.
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No one with bit of intelligent and quality will turn down Aston Villa job. There are about 12 (For sake of debate) club management job better than Aston Villa worldwide and players like Tony Adams, Robbie Savage, David O'Leary doesn't get Aston Villa. Why should we hire them.
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Never bought into the new man nonsense where Adams is concerned. He suddenly reinvented himself as a deep thinking, poetry reading, piano playing new man but he just seemed a complete thicko to me. Bloody useless football manager too, hope he does get the Arsenal job.
but he never said anything insightful he wanted to come across as Oscar Wilde but came across more like Kim
I know, that's why I said he is a thicko. 'Kids in America' is a great pop song though.
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And in other news the Solihull Borough kit man says he's not interested in the Man Utd job when Fergie retires.
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The article is as irrelevant as the source.
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Oh, I don't know. It's a timely reminder of Tony Adams' stellar career in football coaching.
I just think we're all lucky he's not a doctor. The phenomenon of `unconscious incompetence' (not realising how shit you are at your job) is well known in the medical world, and it's a killer.
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Never bought into the new man nonsense where Adams is concerned. He suddenly reinvented himself as a deep thinking, poetry reading, piano playing new man but he just seemed a complete thicko to me. Bloody useless football manager too, hope he does get the Arsenal job.
but he never said anything insightful he wanted to come across as Oscar Wilde but came across more like Kim
I know, that's why I said he is a thicko. 'Kids in America' is a great pop song though.
yes true sorry Kim
:-[
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Stick to what you know Tony - open another rehab clinic.
You could call it Centre Half Wit.
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The article is as irrelevant as the source.
This, well said Toronto
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Crocodile shoes was shit Tony!
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Adams footballing knowledge can be summed up by his daily column during Euro 2004 when he insisted that Wayne Rooney wasn't good enough to play for England.
Meatheaded Turps nudger.
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He's still just sore about that Derek Mountfield goal. But we should all pay attention as he is, after all, a former England captain who in no way ever resembled a four legged animal normally attached to a cart.
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One of the most overrated players of his generation. Talked about by the London media like he was something very special when he was really nothing more than a Richard Dunne type of player who was lucky enough to be part of an outstanding Arsenal team.
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I am not having all this about Donkey.He did an amazing job at Portsmouth.
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Bell End
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Ego bigger than his wallet. Twat.
He knows nothing about Villa and like he would ever stand a chance of managing Villa.
Maybe a boot boy, but feck all else. Twat.
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Bit worried about the psyche of the Villa faithful of late.
I think that nasty little shit Robbie Savage started it off.
But Ratty would say anything to get attention because without controversy he is essentially pointless - and credit to the smarmy gurning rodent - he knows it.
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The Savage style. One part falsetto, one part Alberto Balsam.
But this latest so-called slur on our great club - well it's a bit vague. I'm finding it hard to get worked up. It may well be the Newcastle and Swansea games - I'm not sure.
In life I tend to use two rules before setting the nostrils to 'flare' or firing up the old bile spewer.
Is it true ? And does it matter?
For me on this score - the Adams affair fails on both tests.
And it fails because one - it's 'journalism' - trust not a jot - not one iota - not even a single scintilla till you see and hear it coming out of Adams' own mouth - in the same order and context - and preferably live - so you can ask him exactly what he means by it. Otherwise the poor dopey sod may well have meant there's no point at Villa because Villa already have a great manager just in the door.
And applying rule number two - who gives a toss about Tony or his views? Poor washed up bastard. He's lost it. He's lost it all. Even the singing voice.
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Adams - "Mine's a pint"
Aren't we better off taking the piss out of such desperate shenanigans? And relaxing in the warm and unfamiliar feeling of being a club on the up - and winners.
Only the dregs of sports journalism indulge in this. Dredging up obscure, half forgotten faces for a quote, then gleefully pouncing on anything anywhere that can be turned into a hook - a selling point.
Let us smile benignly at such barbs - for we are invulnerable as we float, on our majestic rise, up the table.
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It's actually one of the most unpleasant characteristics of Arsenal supporters that they are unable to accept that any player could possibly be as good as Tony Adams. That ignorance masquerading as 'passion'.
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I've always admired Tony Adams, mainly for forging a career in football whilst being drunk and for continuing that career at the highest level, being, also, fucking shit at playing football. I've always liked a chancer and he's the best.
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"What a waste of carrots, what a waste of carrots" was I think the chant from our section of the Clock End.
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Shrek: [to Donkey] WHY are you following me?
Donkey: Oh, I'll tell you why.
[starts to sing]
Donkey: 'Cause I'm all alone / There's no one here beside me / My problems have all gone / There's no one to deride me! / But ya gotta have friends...
Shrek: STOP SINGING! Well, it's no wonder you don't have any friends!
Donkey: Wow! Only a TRUE friend would be that truly honest!
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Like Risso, I also have sympathy for his demons, having to battle a twat like Tony Adams.
You magnificent bastard.
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I can't vouch for the authenticity of the quote, but apparently he said this about the Celtic job a few years ago: "I'm very interested. I do love winning things. It works for me and Celtic is an unbelievable club, you have a 50% chance of winning something up there."
Despite his breath taking over optimism I'm sure he would have managed to bugger up that statistic.
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Thanks Tone, although it would have been great to have you as our manager, maybe it would have been a backward step too far for you. I mean what would be the point in you moving from a role as adviser to a prestigious club like FC Gabala to the lowly Aston Villa. It's best us Villa fans get our head out of the clouds.
Ee Aw!
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Never liked the bloke, always found him as annoying as fuck, so not bovvered really.
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Go on, give him his job at "the" Arsenal and watch their trophy drought magically disappear.
Wenger wouldn't have him near the place, he probably wouldn't get a job cleaning the toilets.
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Is he actually drinking again, or was that a windup? Sad if true.
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Is it too much to dream that one day we could aspire to lure the ex- Utrecht youth team coach away from the bright lights of Azerbijian?
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Well we did lure the manager who just relegated our near and dear neighbours and pay them compensation so anything is possible I suppose.
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What can you do with Villa? You're right Tony - you could do fuck all. Maybe leave it to someone who can, a proper manager, with abilities beyond sticking your arm up and staring at a man with a flag, someone who can actually come up with ideas about managing a team.
Oh, and maybe show a bit more respect to the Arsenal manager who saved not only your career, but probably your life in any recognisable form.
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On Goals on Sunday yesterday, in amongst spouting an absolute pile of shite about his coaching abilities/ambitions, he quite rightly laid into Concrete Ron for the the third goal in particular.
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When they showed the goals, what Vlaar did stood out to me too so I wasn't surprised Adams pointed it out. Bet Lambert had a few words with him (Vlaar).