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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: not3bad on September 07, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
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ALAN Hutton insists he “gets on fine” with Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert and claims his first team exile is about finances rather than football.
Hutton has not been selected for a matchday squad since Lambert’s first friendly in charge and has been forced to train with the kids.
But the unwanted right-back reckons the reason he has been axed from the senior squad is because Lambert wants him off the wagebill.
Hutton is just 12 months into the four-year contract he signed last summer and is believed to be earning more than £30,000 per week.
The Scottish international, who hopes to play in tonight’s World Cup qualifier against Serbia, is frustrated at being frozen out by Villa.
And after failing to secure a move during the summer transfer window, he is determined to convince Lambert that he deserves another chance.
“At the time I was told it was nothing to do with my ability,” said Hutton. “It was all about the other aspect of it.
“If that’s the case I don’t see why I won’t be considered for the team. I’m still on the books, so there’s no reason to leave me out altogether.
“Myself and the new manager get on fine, there is no problem between us whatsoever. I’ve actually had really good conversations with him since he’s taken over.
“Hopefully, now the window is closed and no more deals can be done, I’ll push my way back in.
“It’s frustrating, of course it is.
“As a footballer it’s probably the worst situation to be in, sitting not getting the chance to play.
“It’s hard to take, but the only thing I can do is keep working hard and show him if needed I’m ready.
“It’s all about not giving up and doing all I can to get back in the fold at Villa.”
Villa and Hutton’s agent actively tried to find the former Tottenham defender a new club in the summer when Lambert made it clear he was not in his plans at Villa.
During the transfer window there was speculation in the Scottish press linking Hutton with a return to Rangers, but he insists there was no truth in the rumours.
In fact, the 27-year-old full-back is relieved that deadline has past after admitting there was no “concrete” interest and the uncertainty was unsettling.
“It was funny, all my mates and uncles were texting me, asking me if it was true,” he added.
“I think it was one of those rumours that flies around at that time of the year.
“People maybe saw I wasn’t playing at Villa, put two and two together and word spread that I was on my way back to Rangers.
“But as far as I know there was absolutely nothing in that at all.
“To be honest, I’m glad the window’s closed because the whole transfer deadline day thing winds me up a bit.
“It’s all ifs and buts. It’s all about what could happen if one player goes here and another goes there.
“I only really like to know from my agent when things are further on and more definite than that.
“If there’s nothing concrete I’m not really interested — and there was nothing concrete.
“There was loads of speculation, but I try not to get involved in any of that.”
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Hopefully he gets loaned out to the Noses as it suits all parties: he's shit, we don't want him and they like a thug.
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But the unwanted right-back reckons the reason he has been axed from the senior squad is because Lambert wants him off the wagebill.
Nope.
It's because you're shit, you useless Wetherspoons turd.
Wages wouldn't come into it if he did a decent job.
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But the unwanted right-back reckons the reason he has been axed from the senior squad is because Lambert wants him off the wagebill.
Nope.
It's because you're shit, you useless Wetherspoons turd.
I'm sorry, I just laughed immoderately at that.
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How on earth did he manage to get a £9mil move to Spurs? Fucking Hell.
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£30,000 per week? Jesus wept.
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We don't play you because your are shit.
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If it was a wages issue surely we'd be playing him to get value for money?
So he's thick as well as crap at football.
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I'll say this, fair fucks to him for not being a titty-baby about it.
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I'll say this, fair fucks to him for not being a titty-baby about it.
Indeed.
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Fine?
I used to run to the hills when the ex said she was 'fine'.....
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But the unwanted right-back reckons the reason he has been axed from the senior squad is because Lambert wants him off the wagebill.
Nope.
It's because you're shit, you useless Wetherspoons turd.
Wages wouldn't come into it if he did a decent job.
What has Wetherspoons done to be bracketed with Hutton?
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I'll say this, fair fucks to him for not being a titty-baby about it.
Well he cant exactly complain considering he's getting paid £30k+/week wages for doing absolutely fuck all other than training with the youth team.
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Fine?
I used to run to the hills when the ex said she was 'fine'.....
When the missus says does my bum look big in this? I say: "No, it looks fine"...
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
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Fine?
I used to run to the hills when the ex said she was 'fine'.....
When the missus says does my bum look big in this? I say: "No, it looks fine"...
That must be the ultimate definition of 'fine'!
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Sometimes people forget it's been going on for quite a few years as well, rather than just the last few years. Hearing Gregory still pining over Izzet reminded me that a decade ago Izzet was on 25-30K a week. The way players wages have inflated since then I reckon that would be the equivalent of the region of 50-60K a week. For Muzzy Izzet.
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I don't particularly rate him but I could never fault him for effort and attitude, so will never criticise him if he gives his all.
I prefer a modest trier to a lazy prima donna. It would be nice to ship him out, get a fee and save on his wages, of course.
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Finances? Fuck all to do with it, Were still paying him aint we? Yet it's about money?
Says more about how shit scotland are because he's still playing
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Sometimes people forget it's been going on for quite a few years as well, rather than just the last few years. Hearing Gregory still pining over Izzet reminded me that a decade ago Izzet was on 25-30K a week. The way players wages have inflated since then I reckon that would be the equivalent of the region of 50-60K a week. For Muzzy Izzet.
Football is a results driven business these days, so why aren't footballers paid on results rather than a fixed weekly wage? They should be on a basic amount, might be £5,000 a week with additional payment for being on the bench, a decent bonus for a win and lesser bonus for a draw, with extra payments based on the team's league position. It might motivate some of the idle sods.
Paying some of the dead legs in the Premiership like Hutton a fixed wage of £30,000 to not even be playing, it's no wonder clubs are in financial trouble.
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Some of his performances (Albion at home, QPR away, and Arsenal home spring to mind) were dreadful examples of thuggery, stupidity and incompetence to varying degrees. But at other times he looked like he could play a bit, especially going forward. It would be easy for him to say sod it and do a Beye, so I think it says a lot for him that he wants to get back in favour. Lambert might just be able to make some use of him as one of his attacking full backs if we get an injury crisis or a few suspensions.
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He actually looked good in the Arsenal home game and then ruined it all by being easily manipulated by Van Persie, lost his head and got sent off.
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I don't particularly rate him but I could never fault him for effort and attitude, so will never criticise him if he gives his all.
I prefer a modest trier to a lazy prima donna. It would be nice to ship him out, get a fee and save on his wages, of course.
This was very much my thought when I read this ... perhaps he will 'up' his game and we might see some glimpse of the £9m man.
Optimistic, I know!
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Alan Hutton: 'Set on fire' by Paul Lambert...
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If it was a wages issue surely we'd be playing him to get value for money?
So he's thick as well as crap at football.
I think we'll get more value by not letting him anywhere near our match day squad, we struggle with 11 men on the pitch.
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Im not about to kick a man when he's down. I think there is a player in there somewhere and saw glimpses of it. Maybe some time out of the spotlight and a gradual reintroduction into a team doing well will allow us to see a decent player that may well have a future. People forget we have only seen him under mcleish and nobody last season covered themselves in glory. If it is indeed a wages issue well that's not bloody Alan huttons fault is it? I'd take it if offered as well. I suppose it's easier to criticise from behind a keyboard though....
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He's not rubbished the club or whinged about the way he's been treated as others often do so fair play to him on that. He has a squad number so may be needed at some point.
Amidst the dire performances, he did have some good moments. One thing I will say - he can bomb forward and overlap in much the way Lambert wants his full backs to play, so his time may come.
He could of course be here for another 3 years.
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Fuck that, every time Hutton played last season he was launching into 2 footed tackles or handling the ball in the area, that has nothing to do with wages but a lot to do with us not losing games.
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I would add that I don't believe that he on £30,000 a week. I think it's much higher. £8m transfer to Spurs, would surely mean something in the 70-80 range to me. Then he wouldn't leave them for less than half the wage.
That's why PL wants him of the wage bill. 30 a week you could justify. And he says that there is nothing wrong, just wanted off the wage bill
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I think it's believable that he's on 30k a week. Spurs are quite sensible with their wages and they wouldn't have had to give him the earth to get him to come from Rangers.
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I have no sympathy whatsoever for a shite "footballer" who earns more in a week than most of us do in a year. The man is crap, a liability and PL did well to identify then eject him from the squad...lets not start forgetting what an awful player Hutton really is.
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I don't particularly rate him but I could never fault him for effort and attitude, so will never criticise him if he gives his all.
You're right. You can see how has dedicated himself completely to the oft disrespected arts of the very late lunge, the high tackle and the "oh there goes the fucking winger in my rear view mirror, I need put my studs through his kidney's challenge". He has a spot on attitude.
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And maybe it can help change the leopard's spots. he can see the type of footballer lambert wants and in training he has got the chance to try and concentrate on just that, his passing. His thuggery is over-stated on the pitch. he's actually a tough tackling defender who is usually a fraction late. The useless shitbag.
But I'll wager that he'll be back in the team by November if he changes his MO on the pitch. There is a player there. He was good at Rangers and at times good at Tottenham. The system at Villa should be ideal for him as we didn't see him get forward as much as he would have liked I'll guess. Maybe his strength is his attacking.
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People forget we have only seen him under mcleish and nobody last season covered themselves in glory.
I was making this point during the summer and saying I'd be OK with giving him another chance under a better manager. The fact Lambert didn't see it that way isn't exactly a problem for me though.
There's a lot of comments on here about his ability, but for me the statement says more about his character. Similar to TSM himself, we can think he's a decent bloke without that meaning we rate him professionally.
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I think his worst performance was in the 3-2 win against Wolves. I don't think he stopped one cross coming in that day.
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Hutton has a lot to do to get back in the side but if he gets a chance through injury at some stage it will be down to him to deliver- warnock had chances in pre season and his displays fully justified in his being dropped from the squad.
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Totally agree, sad reflection!
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
What a rotter.
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Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
So presumably, being somewhat senior in your profession, you were told that you had to go and work with the apprentices doing menial tasks you would find that satisfactory and rewarding?
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Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
So presumably, being somewhat senior in your profession, you were told that you had to go and work with the apprentices doing menial tasks you would find that satisfactory and rewarding?
No, but I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.
In your above example, you would be criticizing me for continuing to draw my salary even though my employer had treated me fairly shabbily.
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Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
So presumably, being somewhat senior in your profession, you were told that you had to go and work with the apprentices doing menial tasks you would find that satisfactory and rewarding?
If Mr Hutton is unhappy then he has to force the issue request a transfer and get his agent to find him a new club but he wont do that I suspect as he would lose money and he wont find another club willing to pay him £30,000 pw
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Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
So presumably, being somewhat senior in your profession, you were told that you had to go and work with the apprentices doing menial tasks you would find that satisfactory and rewarding?
No, but I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make.
In your above example, you would be criticizing me for continuing to draw my salary even though my employer had treated me fairly shabbily.
Basically I am talking about self-esteem.
No, of course you would still draw your wages but in the meantime I would certainly be looking to get out and would hopefully have achieved that objective especially before any deadline! Although that is always subjective to the proviso that anybody actually wants you or more to the point that anybody is willing to pay you anything like what you want as you definitely won't get what you currently earn!
The bottom line is: what is Hutton prepared to sacrifice to play regular football and it appears that it is very little!
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He's at it again should have been sent of for a two footed tackle in the Scotland v Serbia game he will never learn.
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Born in the wrong time.
He would have been a much better performer in the 1960s rather than this namby pamby era when the games become virtually a non contact sport.
Then again in the 1960s even George Best wasn't on the equivalent of £30k p/week.
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
Man paid to do job considers his salary the main reason for doing the job?
What a rotter.
I don't rate Hutton but I certainly don't begrudge him being paid the contract he signed. If we o longer find value in his services then we should do as we need to, but he should still get paid.
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And maybe it can help change the leopard's spots. he can see the type of footballer lambert wants and in training he has got the chance to try and concentrate on just that, his passing. His thuggery is over-stated on the pitch. he's actually a tough tackling defender who is usually a fraction late. The useless shitbag.
But I'll wager that he'll be back in the team by November if he changes his MO on the pitch. There is a player there. He was good at Rangers and at times good at Tottenham. The system at Villa should be ideal for him as we didn't see him get forward as much as he would have liked I'll guess. Maybe his strength is his attacking.
I agree to a point Peter. Him and Warnock have been awful but know if they want to impress PL they need to up their game. I think PL wanted to get rid of both of them but in the same sense wouldn't hesitate to use them if they showed commitment and earned a place.
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Fine?
I used to run to the hills when the ex said she was 'fine'.....
When the missus says does my bum look big in this? I say: "No, it looks fine"...
Why not tell the truth?
If she asks that question - Her bum must look big in everything.
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I really cannot envision Hutton ever having a future at this club. Even if he were to recapture his best form like he did at Rangers, then he's still not worth the 30k(more) a week wages he's on. He's a goner. If we're desperate we might see him 2-3 times this season, but I suspect he'll be gone for cheap in January, if not on loan. Between Lowton, Lichaj, even Herd, we're extremely well covered at right back. Westwood has played full-back too.
Fair play to him for knuckling down though and not moaning though.
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Alan Hutton? Ability? Yes, as long as you don't forget the 'L' and 'I' in front of it.
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Haha, very good.
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But the unwanted right-back reckons the reason he has been axed from the senior squad is because Lambert wants him off the wagebill.
Nope.
It's because you're shit, you useless Wetherspoons turd.
Wages wouldn't come into it if he did a decent job.
What has Wetherspoons done to be bracketed with Hutton?
Their wares are both past their sell by date.
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Agreed 100%
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I defended him earlier but I had the Scotland Serbia game on in the background yesterday and out of the two or three times I noticed Hutton there was one two footed lunge that could easily have seen him off and later a handball giving an unnecessary free kick away in a dangerous area. So now I'm not so sure.
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If it was a wages issue surely we'd be playing him to get value for money?
So he's thick as well as crap at football.
Not quite as thick as you would think.
Player a earns 35k per week when the club are now imposing wage caps of around £20k per week. Player a thinks, ah well I have a contract so I will see it out. Club then make player a train with kids to force humiliation on him and get him to engineer a move himself or via his agent. Player a doesn't manage to secure a move in the window so both player a and the club are left in a no win position.
And I also admire him for not being a prima dona about it. And controversy of controversies, he is better than Lowton at this precise moment in their respective careers.
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Agreed 100%
I think the point you are making about football administration is a good one. But, to be clear, would anyone on here move jobs for a 50% salary reduction?
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Kippax: what is the reasoning behind your assertion that he is better than Lowton? And how come you state it as fact rather than your opinion?
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Kippax: what is the reasoning behind your assertion that he is better than Lowton? And how come you state it as fact rather than your opinion?
I have neither stated it as fact or my opinion. And you seem reasonably intelligent, would it possibly be fact from someone like me, a mere internet warrior? As for the opinion, Lowton is still learning the game and may well go onto be a very good player, but he isn't proven at this level yet. It is a matter of opinion as to whether you think Hutton is. However, I think he was doing okay at Spuds until he picked up a pretty bad injury and probably hasn't quite been the same player since. I still think he is worthy of consideration as a cup/squad player however.
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he says he wants to play football, but he will still want his 30k a week more than playing football, if someone came in for him with less wages he wouldnt move, just stay for the next 3 years and do sweet FA.
i know thats his choice and thats what the contracts are for, but this situation with players like Hutton just shows you what a mess the whole of the football economy is, not the players fault he will take whats given, but the administrators have turned the game of football into the bigest bullshit, financial incompetant sport in the world
Agreed 100%
I think the point you are making about football administration is a good one. But, to be clear, would anyone on here move jobs for a 50% salary reduction?
not really,
but i'm sure there are a few footballers who have moved on at reduced wages so that they can play the game, your only going to get one playing career after all,
but the point is he will still put money before playing, thats his choice, its a bit different for us as we arnt proffesional footballers who are playing the game we love
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I wonder why players that aren't popular with fans (Hutton) are greedy feckers who are a prime example of everything wrong with football, while players who are popular (Cuellar) aren't put in the same category. Cuellar drained the club of far more money sat on his backside than Hutton has (so far).
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I guess Hutton wasn't popular because he looked a bit rubbish in most games he played last season. If he was any good, I don't think people would give a monkey's, how much he trousered.
Not the best player in the world, but Cueller never let anyone down as far as I can remember
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I wonder why players that aren't popular with fans (Hutton) are greedy feckers who are a prime example of everything wrong with football, while players who are popular (Cuellar) aren't put in the same category. Cuellar drained the club of far more money sat on his backside than Hutton has (so far).
End of the day, they're all greedy fuckers, and we probably would be too in the same circumstances.
There's a huge problem which will eventually rip the arsehole out of the English game, and that is the immense debts lots of clubs are accruing, as more and more telly money pours into the game, rather than do something sensible like safeguard the future of the game by subsidising tickets (German style), the clubs / FA are incredibly short term - they basically just spunk it away on players and agents.
I don't blame the players for taking the money, not for a nanosecond, I blame the people running the league ultimately for allowing such financial short termism to take place. Not to mention permitting a system to persist where agents drain away huge sums of money from the game.
It's not the Wayne Rooneys or the Ashley Coles on their 150k a week that will bring the game down, it is the number of utterly average players like Alan Hutton and hundreds more like him trousering 30k a week.
Good luck to 'em, I'm not going to pretend i wouldn't do the same, but it's going to end in tears sooner or later.
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You missed my point there Pete. Because Hutton hasn't moved for less money he's a greedy fecker only interested in money and to hell with his career. Despite us having no proof he's even turned down such a move.
Don't recall many attempts by Cuellar to move and take a wage drop to play more football when he wasn't in the squad for months at a time, and yet I don't remember anyone saying he was a greedy fecker.
Two players who seem to be doing the same thing, one is greedy (Mr Unpopular) and one isn't greedy (Mr Popular).
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I take your point PWS, but if Alan Hutton has been told in no uncertain terms that he has no future at Villa, then that's a bit different to Cuellar who just didn't get picked to start that often.
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I don't remember Cuellar being away from the squad for 'months at a time' and if he was out for a while it was normally through injury. He played a lot of his football out of position. A poor choice of player to label a greedy if you ask me.
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I don't remember Cuellar being away from the squad for 'months at a time' and if he was out for a while it was normally through injury. He played a lot of his football out of position. A poor choice of player to label a greedy if you ask me.
I never labelled him greedy. I said 1 is considered greedy by people while the other isn't. It was obvious Cuellar wasn't considered first choice in any position the last 2 years he was at the club. Otherwise he'd have played more. He seemed happy enough to see out his contract which not many folks complained about. But Hutton may choose to do the same and is a greedy fecker.
And I agree to a degree Risso, but if no one came in with a bid for Hutton what's he meant to do differently (apart from improve as a player)?
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And I agree to a degree Risso, but if no one came in with a bid for Hutton what's he meant to do differently (apart from improve as a player)?
I think that last bit is probably spot on. If players like Heskey and NRC can't give themselves away for free, what chance another team was going to buy Hutton AND pay his wages, even at a reduced rate?
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Can't really blame Hutton , he wants to play but is out of favour- the blame lies at the door of the man who signed him and the men who sanctioned his wages.
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I would put Carlos and Hutton in the same group, but I wouldn't call them greedy. Both said they want to play, both aren't being picked by the manager. So assuming that's true, then they are hardly greedy. Just out of favour.
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Randy was probably happy to sanction the wages, he was a lot cheaper than Cuellar. You can't appoint a manager then not let him sign who he wants.
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Now he has his chance:
●Alan Hutton has been sent away by Alex McLeish at Nottingham Forest. The defender's loan expired and McLeish wanted nothing else to do with Hutton. So he's ours again. Yay?
Source http://www.7500toholte.com/2013/1/7/3843648/aston-villa-ipswich-FA-Cup-Transfer-Rumours
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He could always take a pay "cut", and prove he wants to be back in the first team
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So Jenas and Hutton have been sent packing by Tsm?
Give him his due, the guy learns from his mistakes.
Just too bad he had to learn with us really. :(
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He could always take a pay "cut", and prove he wants to be back in the first team
Although I think Hutton is one of the worst players we've had in years, I wouldn't expect him to take a pay cut to prove anything.
End of the day, we gave him the deal, if we don't like it any more, then we shouldn't have given him it in the first place.
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Yes we did. But if he fought his way back into the team, and one way to do this may be a downgrade in salary, he could make himslef more likely to be offered a new contract or a better deal elsewhere. He would be in a stronger position if he was getting regular football at a top team
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Regardless if we pay him £30,000 a week or 3 magic beans a week, the issue remains that he is not very good.
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£30,000 per week? Jesus wept.
True statement is Alan Hutton says " I get on fine with Lambert as I am picking up £30 GRAND a week for doing nothing"
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He clearly is deluded for saying:
ALAN Hutton insists he “gets on fine” with Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert and claims his first team exile is about finances rather than football.
Hutton if you were the best RB at the club you will be IN the team whatever you were paid you waste of space excuse of a footballer.
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Brilliant the manager who lumbered him with us for 4 years in the first place dosen't even want him now.
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If he comes back, he should be given a fair crack of the whip. It's no use booing his every move. That is not what we need right now.
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Brilliant the manager who lumbered him with us for 4 years in the first place dosen't even want him now.
We should sue the ****** for costs.
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Has Hutton done anything to upset the fans other than not be particularly good? I don't know if i've forgotten something but there seems an overwhelming level of hatred towards the player which I can't understand.
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Has Hutton done anything to upset the fans other than not be particularly good? I don't know if i've forgotten something but there seems an overwhelming level of hatred towards the player which I can't understand.
Just to be clear, I was referring to TSM.
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Has Hutton done anything to upset the fans other than not be particularly good? I don't know if i've forgotten something but there seems an overwhelming level of hatred towards the player which I can't understand.
Just to be clear, I was referring to TSM.
I can see that mate. I've just read back through the thread and it's left me wondering if i've forgotten or missed Hutton doing something really bad rather than just being a player very few rate?
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Fair question. My response would be "have you seen him tackle"
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It's weird though that he wasn't at least given a chance for Lambert to see him himself. Most managers give all players the benefit of the doubt when they take over and a clean slate.
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Often wondered this as well.
I missed most games last season so I gather it's because he was shit.
But he was obviously a decent player at one point when he was at Rangers/Spurs and him being on 30k is surely less shocking than the rumoured 80/90 for Ireland or whatever Beye was on or Given for that matter...
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N'Zogbia is the one who winds me up as he's got the ability but has done next.to nothing since signing. Lack of effort is unforgivable at any level of any sport and i'd.question N'Zogbia's effort. Not something i'd level at Hutton.
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N'Zogbia is the one who winds me up as he's got the ability but has done next.to nothing since signing. Lack of effort is unforgivable at any level of any sport and i'd.question N'Zogbia's effort. Not something i'd level at Hutton.
Don't think you can criticise Zog so far under PL. Seems to have pulled his finger out in the short amount of time under PLs management.
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It's weird though that he wasn't at least given a chance for Lambert to see him himself. Most managers give all players the benefit of the doubt when they take over and a clean slate.
Those in the know understand he's shit. So why would PL waste his time.
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It's weird though that he wasn't at least given a chance for Lambert to see him himself. Most managers give all players the benefit of the doubt when they take over and a clean slate.
I'm guessing Lambert might have played against Hutton and may have formed an opinion then.
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It's weird though that he wasn't at least given a chance for Lambert to see him himself. Most managers give all players the benefit of the doubt when they take over and a clean slate.
Didn't he play at Burton and the general opinion was that he played shite?
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Has Hutton done anything to upset the fans other than not be particularly good? I don't know if i've forgotten something but there seems an overwhelming level of hatred towards the player which I can't understand.
Being a really, really shit player. Him and Warnock.
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It's weird though that he wasn't at least given a chance for Lambert to see him himself. Most managers give all players the benefit of the doubt when they take over and a clean slate.
Didn't he play at Burton and the general opinion was that he played shite?
Yeah he played the first half at Burton.