Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: JJ-AV on September 04, 2012, 09:06:49 PM
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I imagine these players were relatively unknown to most of us.
Take a stab in the dark, who'll have the best Villa career?
I reckon Bennett, mostly on the basis that he's not Warnock. And we haven't had a half decent left back in almost 4 years now.
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Are they your solicitors?
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when is the 25 man squad named ?
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Are they your solicitors?
hopefully they will help screw some teams
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Have we had this season's photocall yet? Still pissed off that I had to blacken David Unsworth out of my one for '98/99 a week after getting it.
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Get your marker out. Me and Woodhall were mooning in the background on this years snap.
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The first 3.
Bowery COMPLETELY unknown to me.
Complete stab in the dark?
Lowton
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All of them will be Villa legends 8)
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Bowery will have the worst career, because he'll be the only one without a statue of him built in Parliament. He'll have to make do with the knighthood.
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Bennett seems to have had the most successful career before coming to us, having played for the England U21's and below; and played at the highest level consistently of the three. On that basis my presumption would be Bennett, but it's really impossible to say until we've had a proper look at all of them.
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got a feeling it'll be Westwood.
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Westwood, he'll be a Sonic Boom Boy.
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got a feeling it'll be Westwood.
Yep, that's who I'll go for. Seems very mature, captain of his club at a young age. From the sounds of it a calm midfield player that likes to control and pass. Possible future Villa skipper.
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Westwood, he'll be a Sonic Boom Boy.
I was going to post that but then thought, 'no-one will believe me'.
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Westwood, he'll be a Sonic Boom Boy.
I was going to post that but then thought, 'no-one will believe me'.
Maybe that should be our song for him. Or the theme from the Yul Brynner film.
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The Big Dog - Westwood.
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Do You Believe in the Westwood?
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I think all 3 of Westwood, Lowton and Bennett will. Lowton must have added a million to his value already, he looks very decent to me, and can only improve in time with team shape etc.
Bennett sounds like he has the tools, but needs to get the right management to play well, which looking at Ireland, Bannan and one or two others Lambert will provide.
And I am yet to hear anything but Westwood is going to be a really good player, no one has said a bad word.
For once, I think on paper our summer transfers are already looking like they would probably make a profit.
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As ozzjim says, Lowton has already added to his value.
No one has mentioned Bowery as their star, I reckon you've all played safe :)
Although I think all four could make it, I've just a feeling that Bowery could surprise us all
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Pity Bentake was missed off that list
I just wonder if PL will have the guts to start throwing these kids in - i would have loved to have got an easier draw in the LC so we could have got to have seen a few of them at home
Lowton - looks ok but not spectacular - i am not even sure if he is best at RB or CB yet
Bennett - i agree as a specialist player for a specialist position you would think he was bought to play
Westwood - know nothing about him other than what i have read on here - sounds very promising but so did Delph and i have never been overly impressed with him - hope he does make the grade and there is a long list of players that make it through the Crewe system
Bowery - i think with the signing of Bentake he will be the one that we hardly see then ends up drifting away - the least impressive / exciting of all the signings
Bentake - I feel he will be either a hit or miss, either a Demba Ba and hits the ground running or a bit part player with the odd game like Harewood - dont think there will be middle ground for him. Would obviously love him to become a hero / legend
Overall once more i get the distinct feeling the future indeed could be bright
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I saw Ashley Westwood play for Crewe in a youth team game a few years ago when a couple of my lads were on trial at the club. He pretty much ran the show from minute one. Great confidence and doesn't seem easily phased. Very much an old head on young shoulders. Attitude wise, he reminds me of a lad I played with as a kid in Birmingham called Kim Casey. Without wishing to put too much pressure on him, I think we may have found a gem.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
Have we? I very much doubt we have. Crewe and the like might have that idea but not a premiership club. If a player is tapped up and wants to leave that's a different matter. The 'profit' then comes into play. But that's not the reason for taking on what at this stage is an unproven player.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
Have we? I very much doubt we have. Crewe and the like might have that idea but not a premiership club. If a player is tapped up and wants to leave that's a different matter. The 'profit' then comes into play. But that's not the reason for taking on what at this stage is an unproven player.
Yes, but a sell-on-value is kept in mind for a lot of clubs signing younger players these days.
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
Have we? I very much doubt we have. Crewe and the like might have that idea but not a premiership club. If a player is tapped up and wants to leave that's a different matter. The 'profit' then comes into play. But that's not the reason for taking on what at this stage is an unproven player.
Isn't the club supposedly trying to work on the 'Ajax model', where we build a squad around young players from our academy and a few from other teams and eventually sell a load of them on to bigger clubs?
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
Have we? I very much doubt we have. Crewe and the like might have that idea but not a premiership club. If a player is tapped up and wants to leave that's a different matter. The 'profit' then comes into play. But that's not the reason for taking on what at this stage is an unproven player.
I think we've got half an eye on the profit we could make. We might be premiership but it's not like we're the Arsenals of this world.
Hang on a minute...
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I think they'll all turn out to be good. We'll make a profit on all.
What a depressing thought.
Exactly.
If they all turn out to be really good lets hope they all have many successful years with us. Sod the profit, if they are successful the club will generate wealth by other means not at their expense.
It is depressing, but we've probably got half an eye on that sort of thing these days.
Have we? I very much doubt we have. Crewe and the like might have that idea but not a premiership club. If a player is tapped up and wants to leave that's a different matter. The 'profit' then comes into play. But that's not the reason for taking on what at this stage is an unproven player.
I think we've got half an eye on the profit we could make.
If that's the case why didn't we sell Young before there was only a year left on his contract. We'd probably have got another £6 - £10 million for him? The same can be said of Barry. We had opportunities to sell, at a profit, but declined before Man City met the valuation when it was clear he wanted out.
There is little point in selling your better players even at a profit knowing full well they will need to be replaced with as good or better. As we have found out that's far more difficult than it appears.
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At the same time we'll be aware that we live in the real world and in that real world players will want to move on, for whatever reason. If we sell one of these players for £20 million with one year left on their contract then that will soften the blow of having to look for their replacement.
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I just hope they can all go on to make it I'm very optimistic about them.
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Westwood
Bennett
Lowton
Bowery
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I saw Ashley Westwood play for Crewe in a youth team game a few years ago when a couple of my lads were on trial at the club. He pretty much ran the show from minute one. Great confidence and doesn't seem easily phased. Very much an old head on young shoulders. Attitude wise, he reminds me of a lad I played with as a kid in Birmingham called Kim Casey. Without wishing to put too much pressure on him, I think we may have found a gem.
The ex-Kiddy Harriers non-league legend?
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Who had a brief spell at Cheltenham at the end of his career?
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And probably one of the last-ever non-league players to be better off semi-pro.
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I saw Ashley Westwood play for Crewe in a youth team game a few years ago when a couple of my lads were on trial at the club. He pretty much ran the show from minute one. Great confidence and doesn't seem easily phased. Very much an old head on young shoulders. Attitude wise, he reminds me of a lad I played with as a kid in Birmingham called Kim Casey. Without wishing to put too much pressure on him, I think we may have found a gem.
The ex-Kiddy Harriers non-league legend?
The very same PC.
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Casey wasn't fit to lace Chris Hanks boots. And he wouldn't have been able to build part of the ground like Chrissy did. Kiiiiiiiiiiim Casey, what a wanker etc
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I used to love going to watch Cheltenham as a kid. The days of Buckland and Boyland up front. Splendid.
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Casey wasn't fit to lace Chris Hanks boots. And he wouldn't have been able to build part of the ground like Chrissy did. Kiiiiiiiiiiim Casey, what a wanker etc
And neither of them were a patch on Mark Hallam.
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Anyone remember Ronnie Phelps - Moor Green?
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Casey was a non league legend!!! Scored 73 goals in 1 season still a record I think
He was assistant manager at alvechurch in the Midland Alliance last season I believe.
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Why isn't Henders getting a look-in at Tamworth yet, Dave? He's not moving on again already is he?
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Why isn't Henders getting a look-in at Tamworth yet, Dave? He's not moving on again already is he?
Hamstring tear, he's up in Lilleshall doing physio stuff, another 2-3 weeks out he reckons.