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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VinnieChase84 on June 03, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
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I think PL's first will be someone like Danny Guthrie
Guesses!?
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Grant Holt seems feasible.
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A young winger from the lower leagues.
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Jordan Rhodes
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Jordan Rhodes
Think he would be a great addition but not at the prices Huddersfield seem to want for him
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Anthony Pilkington or Zak Whitbread.
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Tom Ince.
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Whitbread is a possibility. On a free, isn't he? Seems to get injured a fair bit. 44 games in 3 years for Norwich. Not keen personally.
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Whitbread is a possibility. On a free, isn't he? Seems to get injured a fair bit. 44 games in 3 years for Norwich. Not keen personally.
I've just read about him on wikipedia and yes he does seem a bit injury prone.
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talksport reckon were trying to Hijack West Hams (nearly done deal) for Wilfred Zaha...... offering Delfouneso as bait !
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Anthony Pilkington or Zak Whitbread.
Glass and Beer...most fans will be delighted with that!
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Messi if not Holt
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Messi if not Holt
I will go for that.
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I don't know enough but I think a midfield general who will be our captain and long term replacement for Petrov.
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Tom Ince.
Good call, looked very good in the play-off games.
With the added bonus that if he does become a good Premier League player, Liverpool released him as a youth.
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I expect he'll give himself a couple of months working with what he's inherited and then bring in a few players just before the window shuts. Although in the meantime he'll probably need to sign up a keeper on the cheap and there's 14 or so of them available on the Premier League released list.
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Ince or Rhodes for me.
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Kyle Naughton. A new Villa manager must first present his right back to the adoring plebs. It's the law.
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Sinclair from Swansea please!
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I wouldnt mind a freebie or two for starters. A gk and some experienced squad filler. A
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Gabor Kiraly
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Defoe would be a good start
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Could do worse than get Robbie Keane back if the price and wages were reasonable.
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Michael Kightly from the dog heads is a good player in my view. Any takers/non takers?
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Phillips from Blackpool.
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Ince and Phillips are both good players. No to Whitbread, he's a lumbering oaf.
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Phillips from Blackpool.
Good shout,like the look of him. I'd cash in on Nzogbia,as i'm not sure he's got the fight in him to improve,especially as Lambert is not the type to take any shit.
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talksport reckon were trying to Hijack West Hams (nearly done deal) for Wilfred Zaha...... offering Delfouneso as bait !
not sure , yes hes young but my palace season ticket holder father in law said he was pretty shit when the opposition worked him out.
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Kyle Naughton. A new Villa manager must first present his right back to the adoring plebs. It's the law.
as long as Hutton f**ks off
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Wrong thread...
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Clyne - palace
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Look abroad please Mr Lambert. I don't mind a couple of players from England but looking further afield is the way to go for long term success.
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Could do worse than Dean Cox of LO. Fast exciting speedy and clever. He reminds me of Micky Wright!
Name: Dean Cox
Nationality: English
Date of Birth: 12/08/1987
Height: 5' 4" (163cm)
Weight: 10st 11lbs (68.55kg)
Previous
Clubs: Brighton, Eastbourne B
Position: Midfielder
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I expect he'll give himself a couple of months working with what he's inherited and then bring in a few players just before the window shuts. Although in the meantime he'll probably need to sign up a keeper on the cheap and there's 14 or so of them available on the Premier League released list.
i dont know , he will have seen how crap we are from the last day of the season
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Sub goalie - Kuszcak or howevever you bloody spell it for me. Outfield, Rodallega replaces Heskey, Tom Ince as the Jenas replacement, and pay the big bucks to get Boswinga over Alan Bastard Hutton !
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Clyne - palace
yes. Palace fans I know rave about him. They insist he's premiership quality, though I always wonder what they know about that
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I'd love it if they could tempt Robbie Keane back.
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I expect he'll give himself a couple of months working with what he's inherited and then bring in a few players just before the window shuts. Although in the meantime he'll probably need to sign up a keeper on the cheap and there's 14 or so of them available on the Premier League released list.
i dont know , he will have seen how crap we are from the last day of the season
Indeed. Second time he's beaten a team then taken a job there before the next match!
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Grant Holt seems to be favourite - but we have had bad experience with 'older' forwards.
However - as unconvinced as I was - i watched this ...
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and now I'm not so underwhelmed.
Solid - hardworking - with an eye for goal and - won't cost the earth on transfer or wages.
Not to bad to have in your bag I would've thought.
Apologies for the soundtrack
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Holt will be at Wet Spam.
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I am surprised that many of you have mentioned strikers and attacking midfield players. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
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Holt will be at Wet Spam.
yes, and good luck to him. he has earned his chance of a decent payday.
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I don't mind us going for Holt, so long as the fee and contract reflect his age. We cannot allow the club to go down the route of having older players on long term contracts with high wages again...
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I am surprised that many of you have mentioned strikers and attacking midfield players. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
Topic - Who do you think will be the first signing!?
Does that explain it?
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At 4:04 in the above video Holt does the sliding knees thing on dry ground and is made to look a right knob !!
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I am surprised that many of you have mentioned strikers and attacking midfield players. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
Topic - Who do you think will be the first signing!?
Does that explain it?
Shall I re-phrase it for you. I am surprised that many of you think that Lambert will sign a striker or attacking midfield player first. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
Is that better for you??
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At 4:04 in the above video Holt does the sliding knees thing on dry ground and is made to look a right knob !!
In that case - you've convinced me. Sod him.
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I am surprised that many of you have mentioned strikers and attacking midfield players. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
Topic - Who do you think will be the first signing!?
Does that explain it?
Shall I re-phrase it for you. I am surprised that many of you think that Lambert will sign a striker or attacking midfield player first. Surely, the emphasis of spend this summer should be on defence and central midfield.
Is that better for you??
Don't take it personal fella ;)
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I heard he was on the verge of signing Snodgrass from Leeds, so it wouldn't surprise me if we signed him now
Heard good things, never really seen him play
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would like zegazeria( bad spelling ) left back at celtic as 1st signing, followered by bret hangerland from fulham
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I would like to see him go for Tom Ince, Wilfred Zaha, and Nathaniel Clyne.
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I would like to see him go for Tom Ince, Wilfred Zaha, and Nathaniel Clyne.
Yes I tink Tom Ince is going to be a very good player
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would like zegazeria( bad spelling ) left back at celtic as 1st signing, followered by bret hangerland from fulham
Izaguirre and Brede Hangeland? ;D
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I would like to see him go for Tom Ince, Wilfred Zaha, and Nathaniel Clyne.
I'd like Clyne as our right back, failing that Naughton from Spurs, failing that anybody but Hutton.
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Munaien at Bilbao is a fantastic player who would be perfect for us, but I fear somewhat outside our league at the moment.
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Munaien at Bilbao is a fantastic player who would be perfect for us, but I fear somewhat outside our league at the moment.
Mate if we had £20m spare I'd love us to snap him up, out of our range though unfortunately.
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Michael Kightly from the dog heads is a good player in my view. Any takers/non takers?
A flamethrower.
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Michael Kightly from the dog heads is a good player in my view. Any takers/non takers?
A flamethrower.
Fair play. Didn't think he was that bad.
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would like zegazeria( bad spelling ) left back at celtic as 1st signing, followered by bret hangerland from fulham
Wow. Do you mean Izaguirre? Not sure if I have the spelling right either, but even by H&V standards that's pretty off!!
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Munaien at Bilbao is a fantastic player who would be perfect for us, but I fear somewhat outside our league at the moment.
Mate if we had £20m spare I'd love us to snap him up, out of our range though unfortunately.
Just a bit.
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Munaien at Bilbao is a fantastic player who would be perfect for us, but I fear somewhat outside our league at the moment.
Mate if we had £20m spare I'd love us to snap him up, out of our range though unfortunately.
Just a bit.
Oh don't get me wrong, that is obviously a pipe dream!
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how many foriegn players has Lambert signed ? has he got a history of looking abroad ?
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Not really but I don't know if that's dictated by the clubs he's been at.
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I heard he was on the verge of signing Snodgrass from Leeds, so it wouldn't surprise me if we signed him now
Heard good things, never really seen him play
I can't see that as we've just signed the Aussie guy from AZ, too similar.
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I would like to see Lloyd dyer, the new ashley young.
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I hear Zat Knight's on a free transfer.
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It will probably be a Ruddy Norwich player.
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Anybody know why Fulham have released Pogrebnyak? He's looked mostly immense since arriving.
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There's much debate over his signing. Some said he was on loan and his deal ran out with his parent club, some say it was a short term deal because he wanted control over his future.
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Anybody know why Fulham have released Pogrebnyak? He's looked mostly immense since arriving.
I think his loan has finished.
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There's much debate over his signing. Some said he was on loan and his deal ran out with his parent club, some say it was a short term deal because he wanted control over his future.
it was a loan and his deal with his parent club ran out, the other things being banded around were by london based media who seemed sure he was going to stay on at fulham after his deal expired. he would be emense for us. him guthrie and murphy should be made priority, murphy only as a cover till if or when petrov is back.
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Guthrie is shite.
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Fuck it, I'm feeling positive so will go for Hoilett coming in first
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Guthrie is average, Murphy is too old but I dont mind going for Pogrebnyak.
I'd love a bit of a coup with a couple of signings. Maybe a Berbatov or a Sturridge (either would work wonders with Bent) as well as a few shrewd value signings we're bound to be looking at too.
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Allegedly there is a transfer kitty of £25 million, which doesn't really add up to much when you consider the number of players that have left since the seasons end.
On this evidence, I can see us raiding Norwich for a couple of players, and perhaps Swansea considering 'Pool have agreed not to raid them.
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When will Enda Stephens get a run out?
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At the enda the day.
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Sinclair from Swansea please!
Yes please! Terrific player.
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Ball winning midfielder hopefully. Not sure who though.
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Guthrie is shite.
he played 12 games for newcastle who made a very good challenge for the champions league, is on a free transfer, would defiantly have a sell on value and is better than anybody we have in that position at the moment with the exception of possibly gardner(in time) and makoun(may not want to be here) bannan ireland and herd arnt really the tough tackling types that guthrie is. it makes total sense, murphy is old but on a one year maybe 2 year deal on low wage as cover for the possibly finished petrov would be good biz, great pen taker, good at dead balls and not afraid to tackle, 2 players available for free with bags of premier league experience who in all honesty cant demand over 30k a week makes sound financial sense, if our budget is only 25 million thats 2 center backs and 1 punt on a midfielder at the most, so we will need to utilise the free transfer market,
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Tom Ince.
Could be right...he looks as if he may have something. However I wouldnt be at all surprised to see Steven Davis return to Villa Park.
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Tom Ince.
Could be right...he looks as if he may have something. However I wouldnt be at all surprised to see Steven Davis return to Villa Park.
Please no
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Paul Scharner. I hope not though.
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Carlos Cuellar
Followed by....
Nigel Reo Coker.
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First signing could be a championship player who we are likely to moan and groan about due to the lack of ambition being shown!!
Seriously, there are some good bosmans about this season. Be daft not to grab a couple.
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I've just said on the transfer thread that Seedorf would do us the world of good, albeit short term. Proven quality and a draw for other players.
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Steve Davis. Rumoured to have a 3 month option where he can leave for £1.25m. It wouldn't be a bad piece of business for that sort of money IMO, he has done very well up there.
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Tom Ince.
Could be right...he looks as if he may have something. However I wouldnt be at all surprised to see Steven Davis return to Villa Park.
You do know McLeish has been sacked?
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Danny Murphy
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Tom Ince.
Could be right...he looks as if he may have something. However I wouldnt be at all surprised to see Steven Davis return to Villa Park.
You do know McLeish has been sacked?
You watty what ?
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At 4:04 in the above video Holt does the sliding knees thing on dry ground and is made to look a right knob !!
That would have made a great 'third eye' thing on soccer am!
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Steve Davis. Rumoured to have a 3 month option where he can leave for £1.25m. It wouldn't be a bad piece of business for that sort of money IMO, he has done very well up there.
It would, because he's not good enough.
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I'm really hoping that we are the first club where Lambert can utilise the foreign transfer market and he makes full use of it. We can make our budget extend a lot further than if we spend our money in England.
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I would like to see him go for Tom Ince, Wilfred Zaha, and Nathaniel Clyne.
second that
And Messi, of course.
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Kohler, Sousa, Moeller, Reidlem & Chapuisat.
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Steven defour in a massive statement of ambition
Alright, Paul Scharner or Danny murphy
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Maicon from Inter - they could have Hutton in return to soften the blow.
More realistic Matt Phillips from Blackpool or Victor Moses if Uncle Dave would allow such a backwards step for the kids career, they can have N'Zogbia back.
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I'd guess Holt would be up there for Lambert, but we'll see the making of the man. If he goes for him, time will tell, if he doesn't I think we're in for a treat with PL. You see, he's at a club on a slightly different level to that of Norwich (not being disrespectful ) league position aside. He might feel he can operate in a different market than previously?
So let's say Holt wasn't the first signing, I'd plump for one of the following:
Diame - Wigan - Free - Gives us some steel in midfield that we've not seen and aside from the last few games for Wigan was used to good effect. Let's face it, we need a spine!
Joe Cole - Liverpool - 3M? - The one thing on which we can all agree is that we've lost creativity and we have been trying to get creativity from central midfield for what seems like an eternity! He has flourished in France and has shown his technical ability. I think he'd be worth a should.
Scott Dann - Blackburn - No idea of price - Has struggled since Samba left, but was a very good servant and would allow us to break up the "rat pack" of Dunne and Collins. Let's face it, whether it's bad performances, or sickening media coverage, we need to break them up.
Thoughts?
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I have read that Diame has a move lined up elsewhere,Joe Cole has committed to Lille foe another season, but Scott Dann would be a decent signing,he did not have a good time at Blackburn but there again who did!
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I have read that Diame has a move lined up elsewhere,Joe Cole has committed to Lille foe another season, but Scott Dann would be a decent signing,he did not have a good time at Blackburn but there again who did!
Well I had heard that Diame was up for considering his options, and Joe Cole's move back to Lille was scuppered by his wage demands.
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I can't see us paying cole's wages. To be honest, given that dann is left footed and would cost double figures, is rather see if Clark or baker can make the place their own. A tall fast right footed centre back? Yes please.
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I think Dann had one good season at Blose but otherwise is a bit of a liability. And gets relegated every year. No thanks, we can do better.
I dont think Lambert will have to polish too many turds next season.
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I can't see us paying cole's wages. To be honest, given that dann is left footed and would cost double figures, is rather see if Clark or baker can make the place their own. A tall fast right footed centre back? Yes please.
My thoughts too.
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I think Dann had one good season at Blose but otherwise is a bit of a liability. And gets relegated every year. No thanks, we can do better.
I dont think Lambert will have to polish too many turds next season.
I think Mazrim has a point, under TSM, Dann was probably all we could hope for, under Lambert, I'd hope to get a better player. He was decent at Blues (surreounded by shite) but has now suffered two relegations in as many years, surely that must tell us something?
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I'd like a German signing & a Scandinavian of some description
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Steve Davis. Rumoured to have a 3 month option where he can leave for £1.25m. It wouldn't be a bad piece of business for that sort of money IMO, he has done very well up there.
You are joking I assume? We could team him up with Reo-Coker and Osborne in a three man midfield or perhaps add Gardner in to beef things up and make us one of the crappiest midfields in the league
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I know we have had our fingers burned taking Man city cast offs, but I wouldn't mind seeing Micah Richards, Nigel De Jong, and Adam Johnson come in.
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De Jong can stay away from here, the other two would be immense signings.
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There's no way they would sell Micah Richards. Probably the same with De Jong too - one of Mancini's favourite tactical changes was to bring De Jong on which would release Toure to get forward more. That's how their goal away to Newcastle came about.
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Richards and Johnson would be amazing signings but cant see either happening.
Citeh will be spending again this summer so the chances of first team football for Johnson will be even less than last, so it would make sense that he would want to move, however his wage demands could be too much for most clubs. Richards is still a part of the team so cant see him moving anywhere anytime soon.
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I know we have had our fingers burned taking Man city cast offs, but I wouldn't mind seeing Micah Richards, Nigel De Jong, and Adam Johnson come in.
medication?
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Don't think any city players wanna take a 40 grand a week pay cut,unfortunately.
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How nice is it that we can talk about our next signings rather than manager, under performing players, relagation etc. seems to be a real buzz back again now. lets all have a relax and enjoy the euro's :) :)
I think its nailed on to be holt btw, wouldnt want us paying anything more than 4 million though, for the fact he's 31 and could well be another marcus stewart
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Johnson on loan Adebayor style would be an option I reckon. If Richards becomes available he will go straight across Manchester I reckon.
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given that holt is captain as well might be a wise head needed - bepending ob the stan situation - we need some one to be the voice and the drive the team.
need a sid in the middle of the park, to spray the balls around and supply bent
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that ****** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that c*** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
Agreed. The only way I would take Holt would be on a free and a 12 month contract, anything else would be madness.
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I'd guess I'm not the only one who is remembering signing Peter Withe aged 29 and not being too impressed. He played for us for 5 years I think and things turned out Ok.
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that c*** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
Agreed. The only way I would take Holt would be on a free and a 12 month contract, anything else would be madness.
This is Holt's last chance to get a nice fat contract, and I don't blame him for doing whatever he can to make it happen...I just really don't want Villa to be the mugs that give it to him.
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I can see the point for a low enough fee and wages package
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I'd be ok with one or both of the Bender twins- Sven or Lars. 6 foot defensive midfielders both... "Bender to Bender to Bent..."
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that c*** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
Exactly,
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Nice to see that the ancient tradition of moaning about things that aren't happening is still alive and well.
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that c*** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
The only team he has been linked with is Wet Spam with a £4.5m bid. Any links to Villa so far have just been lazy journalism because we've just appointed his ex manager who hasnt even had his press conference yet its all pure speculation and bolx.
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Nice to see that the ancient tradition of moaning about things that aren't happening is still alive and well.
Well, this is the place for it.
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old.
They did'nt seem to mind giving him a contract to take him up to his 33rd birthday and besides considering they think he's too old, they'll want a fortune for him.
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Perhaps Holt would give the Villa a couple of seasons of a double figure tally in goals. Who gives a shit about age or resale value? It's what happens on the pitch that matters. Leave the business matters to the suits.
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He's tailor-made for a newly-promoted club. One year contract, big payday, score fifteen goals and keep us up.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient. If we can't compete financially we should be able to compete in other ways and consistently. And certainly always look to beat those teams around us and below us and give it a real go every time against the sides above us.
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First signing should be Robbie Keane. I hope someone has told Mr L how he inspired the team and revived our shitey season whilst he was on loan.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient. If we can't compete financially we should be able to compete in other ways and consistently. And certainly always look to beat those teams around us and below us and give it a real go every time against the sides above us.
I couldn't agree more.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
There isn't a huge amount of strength about Wes Hoolahan and Anthony Pilkington, to name but two.
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I genuinely don't care who his first signing is. I don't worry if they will be value for money. I just have this feeling of trust with Lambert.
I will be happy with whoever he signs and trust him that they will improve the team.
Not felt like this for a long time!
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FFS what is it with the Holt to Villa thing? Norwich won't give him a new contract because he's too old. Why on earth do we want to commit a fee of 4m and wages of 35k a week to a player who is nearly 32 and has no re sale value whatsoever? It's fucking madness to even contenplate signing him and if we do, my belief that we've turned the coner will be severely challenged. Might as well have TSM back as its just the sort of thing that c*** would do. We need to be aiming a lot higher. After all we are Aston villa.
The only team he has been linked with is Wet Spam with a £4.5m bid. Any links to Villa so far have just been lazy journalism because we've just appointed his ex manager who hasnt even had his press conference yet its all pure speculation and bolx.
i'l be amazed if Grant Holt is not a Villa player next season, for me he's a shoe in to sign for us.
i dont paticulary want him, because he defines a certain style of play, but thats one of the styles Lambert uses to good effect, Holt scored 15 league goals for Norwich last season more than Gabby has ever scored in any league season.
he will be exactly the sort of signing we must start getting used to, dont forget Lambert had Wilbraham as well at Norwich, who is a carthorse of a man (i'm not sugesting we are in for him)
i know the MON comparisons get on everyones nerves, but i dont think they are there for no reason, and his signings i think will reflect that.
Holt is also joint favourite to sign for us at 11/10, from the same bookies who had Lambert favourite from beginning to end apart from a brief fling with OGS, you know the bookies who dont know whats going on !
get used to it, if Holt is not a Villa player soon, i will eat my So'wester
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
Maybe somewhere like Wes Hoolahan fitted in for him at Norwich? Bannan is a similar type of player ability wise but not the same attitude. Maybe Bannan needs a loan stint down in some team of cloggers in the championship to realise what he is pissing away at Villa.
The transfer market is likely to be very slow until after the Euro so patience is required I reckon
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I genuinely don't care who his first signing is. I don't worry if they will be value for money. I just have this feeling of trust with Lambert.
I will be happy with whoever he signs and trust him that they will improve the team.
Not felt like this for a long time!
I pretty much agree with this. Just happy to sit back and see how things unfold.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
They need to be strong where they need to be, and skilfull where they need to be. We all watched our lot being bossed around in the middle last year. For Stephen Ireland to be the best he can be he needs to be protected. We can't offer that now. We need to be a lot more clinical and efficient in everything we do, and if certain players cannot do that then they need to find another club. The best teams don't always have the best individual players. They have a mix of players that allow each other to their jobs at a high level.
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Strength in the midfield is a pretty big myth. Ireland had the second highest interception rate in the league last year, but our manager's obsession with boofy defending meant it was useless. Hard work and pace are more important than strength and size by a long way.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
They need to be strong where they need to be, and skilfull where they need to be. We all watched our lot being bossed around in the middle last year. For Stephen Ireland to be the best he can be he needs to be protected. We can't offer that now. We need to be a lot more clinical and efficient in everything we do, and if certain players cannot do that then they need to find another club. The best teams don't always have the best individual players. They have a mix of players that allow each other to their jobs at a high level.
See: Dortmund for the last two seasons. Blessed with a couple of star players and superb youngsters, but by no means the most individually talented team in the league. I hope PLs taken a few notes from his former side - they were no more than an upper mid-table/Europa League team until the last couple of seasons.
I wouldn't necessarily like to see us bring in some more 20m+ players a la Bent (not that we have the funds to), rather players that would fit in to the wider picture and although might not be star names, would be better for us in the long run. Snodgrass/Guthrie would be a start.
Also - been seeing various people on Twitter talking about the papers linking us with Adam Johnson?! What papers are these?! Would be a cracking signing if we could get him though (Which I doubt).
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Strength in the midfield is a pretty big myth. Ireland had the second highest interception rate in the league last year, but our manager's obsession with boofy defending meant it was useless. Hard work and pace are more important than strength and size by a long way.
True but when you also add strength into the mix its even better. It does count, but not as much as positional awareness and technical ability..
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Strength in the midfield is a pretty big myth. Ireland had the second highest interception rate in the league last year, but our manager's obsession with boofy defending meant it was useless. Hard work and pace are more important than strength and size by a long way.
True but when you also add strength into the mix its even better. It does count, but not as much as positional awareness and technical ability..
Strength only starts to count when someone is hugely stronger than other people. At minimal differences it's not that relevant. I'd say Bannan against Guthrie would be more likely to be decided on skill, spatial awareness and hardwork, despite Bannan's obvious strength disadvantage. The only midfielder in Europe who is both technically good enough and so strong as to make it count as well is Yaya Toure - and even then, it's his skill, not his strength, which make him so valuable.
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Grant Holt seems to be favourite - but we have had bad experience with 'older' forwards.
However - as unconvinced as I was - i watched this ...
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and now I'm not so underwhelmed.
Solid - hardworking - with an eye for goal and - won't cost the earth on transfer or wages.
Not to bad to have in your bag I would've thought.
Apologies for the soundtrack
Yes thats all well and good - but can he defend like heskey could?
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You would think that a man who has managed in three different divisions in the last three years and has had to scout opposition players and potential signings in all of them would have a broad knowledge of the talent out there at all of those levels.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient.
Well he certainly likes his team to be physically strong. Not sure where Barry Bannan will fit in to his plans.
They need to be strong where they need to be, and skilfull where they need to be. We all watched our lot being bossed around in the middle last year. For Stephen Ireland to be the best he can be he needs to be protected. We can't offer that now. We need to be a lot more clinical and efficient in everything we do, and if certain players cannot do that then they need to find another club. The best teams don't always have the best individual players. They have a mix of players that allow each other to their jobs at a high level.
Your right. For the last few season the stature of our team especially in the midfield has been small and we are quite easly bossed off the ball by most teams and its frightening. Its not coincidence that we were in relegation battles since Millner left. The first signing has to be a strong midfielder and forget all this rubbish about 2 wingers it just dosen't work, one is enough and another wide midfielder tucking in.
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I'd love to see a real statement of intent type signing. Even if that signing was a bosman transfer. Lambert talked at the press conference about using the feel-good factor that's around the club at the moment. I'd love to see it boosted even more with a good signing, unveiled at the open day next weekend. Douglas, Pobregynak perhaps.
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Your right. For the last few season the stature of our team especially in the midfield has been small and we are quite easly bossed off the ball by most teams and its frightening. Its not coincidence that we were in relegation battles since Millner left. The first signing has to be a strong midfielder and forget all this rubbish about 2 wingers it just dosen't work, one is enough and another wide midfielder tucking in.
Or play three in midfield and then two wide players capable of creating? That way you also keep the ball better with the numbers in there, regardless of size.
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Your right. For the last few season the stature of our team especially in the midfield has been small and we are quite easly bossed off the ball by most teams and its frightening. Its not coincidence that we were in relegation battles since Millner left. The first signing has to be a strong midfielder and forget all this rubbish about 2 wingers it just dosen't work, one is enough and another wide midfielder tucking in.
Or play three in midfield and then two wide players capable of creating? That way you also keep the ball better with the numbers in there, regardless of size.
There's a fair chance Lambert will play both of these systems depending on the opposition.
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Your right. For the last few season the stature of our team especially in the midfield has been small and we are quite easly bossed off the ball by most teams and its frightening. Its not coincidence that we were in relegation battles since Millner left. The first signing has to be a strong midfielder and forget all this rubbish about 2 wingers it just dosen't work, one is enough and another wide midfielder tucking in.
Or play three in midfield and then two wide players capable of creating? That way you also keep the ball better with the numbers in there, regardless of size.
That's been my favoured starting approach for a while.
BB is too slight and does not have the turn of pace of a Modric or an Ireland to make his own space in midfield; I suspect this is why he's made an art out of the early passing. And it may also be attitudinal.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Errr no thanks DC5. If we are going for another wideman I'd rather Sinclair from Swansea.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Is this a joke ? I'd rather bring back Guy Whittingham !
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Is this a joke ? I'd rather bring back Guy Whittingham !
Why would it be a joke? Voted best player outside of the Premier League should make him a good prospect. Have you seen him play?
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I think he'll take Kyle Naughton from Spurs.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Is this a joke ? I'd rather bring back Guy Whittingham !
I'm not sure I'd buy him back but it wouldn't be the worst deal in the world. He's improved massively since he left, but I'm not convinced he's PL quality. He is a very good Championship player though.
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From the first time I saw him as a left back in our youth team, Whittingham's always had very good technical ability. I was sorry to see him leave Villa in the first place but despite his eye catching moments for Cardiff in recent years, no Premier League clubs have seemingly been convinced enough to try to buy him. There has to be a good reason for this.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Is this a joke ? I'd rather bring back Guy Whittingham !
Why would it be a joke? Voted best player outside of the Premier League should make him a good prospect. Have you seen him play?
I've posted before that Peter used to lodge with folks I knew when at Villa, his problems were not in his feet but his head, he never seemed to quite believe he was good enough. Maybe he's changed but the fact he's still playing in the First Division seems to be quite telling.
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/england/2012/06/09/aston-villa-boss-paul-lambert-eyes-up-swoop-for-scotland-star-robert-snodgrass-86908-23891346/
Robert Snodgrass...........
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Wonder if we'd nickname him "Pongo".
(http://www.toonhound.com/pongo4.gif)
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Crap last name, good player though. He can certainly play a bit
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
Errr no thanks DC5. If we are going for another wideman I'd rather Sinclair from Swansea.
He's not really a winger anymore. Tends to play in the middle for Cardiff these days.
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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but the ever reliable source that is The Mirror reckons that Lambert is interested in Holt and Ayala from Norwich, Matt Phillips from Blackpool and Snodgrass from Leeds.
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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but the ever reliable source that is The Mirror reckons that Lambert is interested in Holt and Ayala from Norwich, Matt Phillips from Blackpool and Snodgrass from Leeds.
It's not really a massively inspiring list of players but I guess we have to trust his judgement. I'd like to see Phillips if I'm honest but the others wouldn't bother me too much if we missed out on them.
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I think all 4 would add something useful. Ayala is meant to be highly rated, but doesn't he belong to Liverpool? Snodgrass has good feet, and decent delivery from what I have seen, and is there not previous playing for Lambert in Scotland? Lacks pace, but can take a free kick, and we seriously lack decent delivery full stop, so if he is cheap, which he may be due to his contract, it could be a goer.
Holt has been done to death, but cheaply done he gives us something we lack, and scores goals. Old yes, but might be worth it.
Matt Phillips would be excellent. Now Ince has come through there too, maybe Phillips will be gettable so to speak, and Holloway might be on his bike anyway.
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Robert Snodgrass - Kid looks classy
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Snodgrass always seemed a bit chunky to me...
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I think all 4 would add something useful. Ayala is meant to be highly rated, but doesn't he belong to Liverpool? Snodgrass has good feet, and decent delivery from what I have seen, and is there not previous playing for Lambert in Scotland? Lacks pace, but can take a free kick, and we seriously lack decent delivery full stop, so if he is cheap, which he may be due to his contract, it could be a goer.
Holt has been done to death, but cheaply done he gives us something we lack, and scores goals. Old yes, but might be worth it.
Matt Phillips would be excellent. Now Ince has come through there too, maybe Phillips will be gettable so to speak, and Holloway might be on his bike anyway.
Could all be speculation and being as it was in the Mirror it probably is. I think Ayala may have signed for Norwich on a permanent deal after being on loan to a few clubs from Liverpool. From what I have seen of him, he is pretty big and physical, but is comfortable on the ball. Would probably compliment Dunne or Collins pretty well.
Whenever I have seen Snodgrass he has always seemed like he definitely has the talent, but there is something missing. I think he did play for Lambert up in Scotland and Lambert has tried to sign him on a couple of occasions since. I agree that Phillips looks good, but am a little worried that he went on loan as recently as early last season because he was not playing for Blackpool. You have to question if his good run of form after Christmas was a one off, but he looked impressive during that period and I would take him over Ince given the choice. I don't think we should sign him, but the one Championship winger that impressed me last season was Burke at the Blues. Would not be surprised if Hughton tried to take him to Norwich with him.
As you say, the Holt one has been done to death and I am still hoping that one doesn't happen (though I think it will). I would like our first signing of the summer to be a top level striker who is going to provide a bit of excitement. Still remember we signed the likes of Dean Saunders, Collymore, Dublin and Bent, and the buzz they brought to Villa Park. I know it is highly unlikely, but I would love to see us sign a striker like Defoe or even Daniel Sturridge and make a statement of intent.
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I think he'll take Kyle Naughton from Spurs.
Would be a decent signing, even if only on loan. He is an attacking full-back in the mould of Kyle Walker and Spurs owe us one after Jenas and Hutton!!
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Robert Snodgrass - Kid looks classy
I can remember the last time we signed a 'classy' player from Leeds....
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Snodgrass always seemed a bit chunky to me...
Like Dunney or a Barry kind of way (all over or bum)?
I've always liked him as a player, I just wonder why he is still there if he is as good as the very few time I have seen him.
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I don't think that we will be making any big money signings this summer. I think whoever PL brings in will be of the likes of Snodgrass, a proven Championship player who he believes he can improve into a steady Premiership player. We need stability and some depth in the squad and also PL needs time to assess exactly what we have already on the books. The likes of Clark, Bannan, Albrighton, Lichaj etc will need to be making their mark with 20 - 25 appearances next season or else I think they will be shown the door in 12 months time. There is no point in spending big money on someone when the answer might already be here.
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There is only one player I would want from Norwich and that is the CB Ryan Bennett who he signed in Jan. We could have a very good young back four of:
Eric - Bennett - Clark - Baker
For the next 10 years :)
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It's hardly the most inspiring list of signings. Would love to see the squad complimented with some proven quality. With the Euro's on Lambert should be able to have a look at a fair few prospects.
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It's a little risky just looking at the Euros and falling in love with any one player. I would hope that our scouts will have seen some of the players now playing at the tournament for an extended period of time and their performance at the championships pnly confirms their thoughts. I'll put money on Dunne playing a blinder for Ireland but it won't tell the whole story of his strengths and liabilities.
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I can see us bringing in Kyle Naughton. He had a good season for Lambert at Norwich and being a Spurs player we wouldn't have the reluntance to sell to us that Norwich will probably show if we go after one of their players. Spurs are well covered in that department and once Lambert looks at the DVDs from last season he will be thinking about the right back position.
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I'll put money on Dunne playing a blinder for Ireland but it won't tell the whole story of his strengths and liabilities.
Betting slip ripped up yet? (winky)
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I'll put money on Dunne playing a blinder for Ireland but it won't tell the whole story of his strengths and liabilities.
Betting slip ripped up yet? (winky)
Balls :( yes, well and truly Dave
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Mine to. Had a 2-2 draw. Never mind ,plenty of games to go. Got England 2-0 for tomorrow,we will see,just got a feeling that we can do well this time,no pressure.
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My personal hope is that he tries to build us around the German model. Hard working teams, no little skill, but sides that play to the very end and are incredible versatile and efficient. If we can't compete financially we should be able to compete in other ways and consistently. And certainly always look to beat those teams around us and below us and give it a real go every time against the sides above us.
I couldn't agree more.
Me three. I’d even go as far as suggesting we become a bit of a feeder club for Dortmund (in the short term). If they have some more youngsters then we should sign them in a similar way to how Chelsea signed that guy from Barca.
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Dortmund tend to chuck their players in pretty young anyway. If they end up having sahin, kagawara, lewandowski, the right back fella and others all poached by bigger clubs despite winning 3 major trophies in 2 years I think tat would say so much about what's wrong with football.
Unless someone comes to villa of course
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It could well be Peter Whittingham. A supposedly reliable source on Twitter has spoken to him directly and he's straight back from his holiday and into talks with Villa over a move.
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Peter Whittingham: Welcome back to Aston Villa.
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Fookin' hell. I hope that is a wind up. Surely we are aiming higher than that?
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I'd welcome him back with open arms. A much better player than when he was here last. I quite liked him then to be honest.
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Messi.
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
I see this has a few legs on it now.
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He has been brilliant for cardiff. has turned into a very tidy player
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I am hoping to see Peter Whittingham brought back to Villa Park. He has done well at Cardiff and I see he was voted FourFourTwo's Football League Player of the Year. Still only 27 so he has a few years left in him.
I see this has a few legs on it now.
Never seems to me to be the type of player that is hungry for success that Lambert is looking for.
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Whittingham is a central midfielder nowadays.
Fair to say we'd need a pretty physical central midfielder alongside him though, Diame gone anywhere yet?
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I used to quite like Peter Whittingham he looked quite bright in an average midfield 6 -7 Years ago but i dont think its a step forward now he isnt better than what we have got and he's probably in his peak right now so i hope not
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Whittingham isn't going to happen. Trust me.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2158418/Aston-Villa-beat-Norwich-Kyle-Naughton.html?ITO=1490
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Whittingham isn't going to happen. Trust me.
ITK?
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Whittingham isn't going to happen. Trust me.
ITK?
*solemn nodding*
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Whittingham - good at free kicks , good at corners but doesnt do much else .
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Whittingham - good at free kicks , good at corners but doesnt do much else .
After last season that's not a bad thing. How many goals did we score from corners?
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Whittingham - good at free kicks , good at corners but doesnt do much else .
After last season that's not a bad thing. How many goals did we score from corners?
But I'm sure there are many players that have proven top-level ability that can take a corner. Not just someone who is stuck in a just above average Championship side.
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
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Whittingham - good at free kicks , good at corners but doesnt do much else .
After last season that's not a bad thing. How many goals did we score from corners?
But I'm sure there are many players that have proven top-level ability that can take a corner. Not just someone who is stuck in a just above average Championship side.
How many of those have been one of the best players in the Championship for the last, three years or so?
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naughton would be a great signing. Rated by my Leicester mates and might mean Hutton does one . ;)
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
What's the official attenda.......
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I never found the answer to that one.
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It's not been two years, surely.
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When we sold Kevin Phillips, I said we should have kept him.
'He'll be no good in the premier, too old, blah blah'.
Premier or otherwise, how many goals in how many games (many as a late sub) has he scored since then?
The point being, once a goal scorer, always a goal scorer, hence my interest in signing Whittingham.
By the way, Phillips scored 41% goals per game since leaving us and 46% between playing at Watford and leaving Villa.
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That's almost double Heskey's best career efforts. So I suppose in Heskey's case we could say "Never a goalscorer, never ever a goalscorer".
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I never found the answer to that one.
Welcome back by the way.
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Yes, welcome back peter w, also noticed posts by Chris Smith and Hilts recently. Nice to hear from you chaps.
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Yes, welcome back peter w, also noticed posts by Chris Smith and Hilts recently. Nice to hear from you chaps.
Fairweathers.
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
How was Guantanamo?
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Yes, welcome back peter w, also noticed posts by Chris Smith and Hilts recently. Nice to hear from you chaps.
Fairweathers.
Gloryhunters ;)
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Yes, welcome back peter w, also noticed posts by Chris Smith and Hilts recently. Nice to hear from you chaps.
Fairweathers.
Raised the first chuckle of the day.
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
A few months ago there was an article on MOTD about the club working with the local community. I think they even won some award, not sure about that though.
You didn't even get a mention.
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Does Peter even know the General did a bunk a year or more ago?
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
What's the official attenda.......
Why didn`t Barry take the penalty?
Never did find out what the "W" stands for, although I did get a Moderator yellow card for suggesting something :)
Welcome back Pete - nothing has changed - we are all still miserable :(
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Yakuba......£1 million pound get out clause at Blackburn,had a decent season last year & at the price,cheap as chips!
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Yakuba......£1 million pound get out clause at Blackburn,had a decent season last year & at the price,cheap as chips!
Bloody hell there are glaciers that move quicker than him
Although people are talking about Grant Holt yet to get a good few goals for an awful Blackburn team is something
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I read an article a while ago with Bent and he said the best player he played with as a partner was Kenwyne Jones - does not get much game time at Stoke so is he worth a punt?
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Jones is so frustrating to watch, talent and eye for goal, but so, so lazy.
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
Good to see you back Pete, glad to see you're still around.
How's the family?
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Jones is so frustrating to watch, talent and eye for goal, but so, so lazy.
I don't rate him at all. He's not exactly a goal scoring machine is he? One to stay clear from me thinks.
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Kenwyne Jones = Emile Heskey 10 years ago, only not as good.
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Our first signing is going to be David Bentley.
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I wish we'd had the chance to see Darren Bent and Emile Heskey play up top together. I think it would have worked. I also think Jones & Bent would work.... maybe Holt & Bent too.
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We already have a younger model of Heskey...
(http://static.weltsport.net/bilder/spieler/gross/37124.jpg)
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Oooh harsh Paul
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The guy in that picture could still beat anyone over 20 yards. The 2012 version is bulked up and no longer speedy.
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I wish we'd had the chance to see Darren Bent and Emile Heskey play up top together. I think it would have worked. I also think Jones & Bent would work.... maybe Holt & Bent too.
Seem to remember Bent and Heskey playing together in a game against Wigan at home. It was working pretty well until Heskey got fouled from behind, completely lost the plot and had to be taken off. Also seem to remember N'Zogbia scoring against us that day.
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This about as appropriate as any thread for this, but do we know what's happening with Culverhouse and Karsa?
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Just checked, they aint on the coaching staff yet
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I think they'll both be onboard in July.
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Ryan Snodgrass.
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The most believeable link so far has been Kyle Naughton, so I'll go with him as first signing.
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I'm sure there are. We just want to look forward, Are you our old Peter w?
Indeed. Almost like the last two years never happened.
And, I am. Go on ask me anything about The General...local people at games...halal meat...
Good to see you back Pete, glad to see you're still around.
How's the family?
Cheers JD. All good mate. number 2 due in October!!!
Cheers all. Good to be back. Could do with a lick of paint though - oh, and the General's gone? For good. Well, I did say...I'm also losing track with who a lot of people are with all these name changes.
Annnnyyway, back on topic - is there any legs in the Sunday Mirror story of Randy trying to keep a French U-21 left-back the McLeish wanted on Lambert's radar? Apparently the move was all but signed, sealed, and not quite delivered.
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Yakuba......£1 million pound get out clause at Blackburn,had a decent season last year & at the price,cheap as chips!
And he's only on around £20k a week at Blackburn. Definitely an affordable go to bloke on the bench rather than Delfouneso at those prices.
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Yakubu is a fat, powerful, but painfully lazy version of Darren Bent.
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May I be the first to invoke the "Well, he'd better than Heskey" mantra?
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Holman.
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Doesn't count.
I reckon it might be a bit of a shocker.... maybe a keeper.
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This about as appropriate as any thread for this, but do we know what's happening with Culverhouse and Karsa?
Bit of a stand-off with Norwich over compensation I guess - equally they're holding off getting Hughton's staff from Blose.
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Hmmm Bent and Yakubu are both "guaranteed to get you goals", according to lazy pundits. So playing them both together would either perversely lead to no goals, or possibly create a wormhole in the sky over villa park.
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Yakubu scores. But, he's a lazy fucker. And I don't think anyone is exactly sure how old he is... like Kanu.
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After watching Given in Euro's i too would bet on a keeper
Has Guzan actually gone yet or will PL have a say on the matter?
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He's a free agent so there's nothing stopping PL re-signing him if he wanted. The problem is that he won't have seen much of him so would be unlikely to sign him.
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Wouldn't that therefore apply to any manager? Or any reserve keeper?
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This about as appropriate as any thread for this, but do we know what's happening with Culverhouse and Karsa?
Bit of a stand-off with Norwich over compensation I guess - equally they're holding off getting Hughton's staff from Blose.
Don`t their one year rolling contracts expire at the end of June? - Therefore no compensation due as they are free to walk?
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This about as appropriate as any thread for this, but do we know what's happening with Culverhouse and Karsa?
Bit of a stand-off with Norwich over compensation I guess - equally they're holding off getting Hughton's staff from Blose.
Don`t their one year rolling contracts expire at the end of June? - Therefore no compensation due as they are free to walk?
Rolling contracts don't expire. Otherwise they'd just be one year contracts.
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I just wonder whether their rolling contracts have a 'grace' period written into them before the next year begins which would allow one of the parties to exit the contract. It's so quiet that there's almost an inevitable acceptance that they will be in place in time for pre-season training. For one thing if we didn't think we could get them, moves would be being made to find others but there seems to be no such movement. In fact, Grant and MacDonald have left with speculation that Cowans is going back to the youth levels so there are positions that are just waiting to be filled.
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Hmmm Bent and Yakubu are both "guaranteed to get you goals", according to lazy pundits. So playing them both together would either perversely lead to no goals, or possibly create a wormhole in the sky over villa park.
Read somewhere today that Yakubu is being linked with a club in China. Not someone we should be considering in my opinion. Moving into the realms of fantasy football, I thought Mario Mandzukic who played up front for Croatia in the Euros looked a really good player. Still Only 26 and has a good scoring record for Wolfsburg.
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Another Croatian that impressed me, especially against Spain was Gordon Schildenfeld, 27 plays for Eintracht Frankfurt. Was excellent, great reader of the game.
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De Jong is on the market too from Man City. I quite fancy him down at Villa Park
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Me too. I know Monty thinks he's a thug but I'm not of that opinion. Certainly not in the Cattermole/Henry/Barton bellend catgeory.
Not that I'm completely suprised but where does it say he's on the market?
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De Jong is on the market too from Man City. I quite fancy him down at Villa Park
I would'nt personally, he gets booked nearly every game.
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De Jong is on the market too from Man City. I quite fancy him down at Villa Park
He'll likely be after something a bit better than Villa, although I think he is exactly what we need.
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The last I heard Nigel De Jong was after a new contract at City but if he couldn't agree one he was ready to sit out the last year of his deal and go for nothing next summer. There have been headlines about Newcastle signing De Jong but it is Luuk De Jong, a striker at FC Twente. As for the Norwich backroon staff I reckon we are waiting for Norwich to get shot of them to make room for Hughton's staff so we don't have to pay compo and Norwich are waiting for us to take them so they don't have to pay them off.
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de jong is on 100grand a week at city
next case
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Another 'yes, please' to De Jong. He's exactly what our midfield needs and added to that he's experienced, thereby leaving more freedom to play our own kids and bring in some other prospects.
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If we are prepared to spend big on a fee and wages for a defensive midfielder I would love us to do everything possible to get Lassana Diarra from Real Madrid.
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If we are prepared to spend big on a fee and wages for a defensive midfielder I would love us to do everything possible to get Lassana Diarra from Real Madrid.
I think we need to be realistic, he wouldn't come to Villa currently.
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Neither would de Jong!
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This and the transfer thread are full of wonderful notions of total fancy.
Diame signed for west am then. Nzonzi worth a look?
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Anyone able to find out / know what PL's aquisition ability was like at the Canaries?
Was he a ditherer like MON?
Was he prone to buy more than one at a time?
Did he like to get his targets in early or leave it till last minute?
Most of these managers have a way about them and it does not change when they change clubs its how they like to do things
I suppose whatever money he has available will be more than he has ever had before so that might make him take a bit more time
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Well, he's handed a list of targets to Faulkner already, so I'm guessing the delay, such as it is, is due to players and agents being on holidays, plus the Euros. Nothing much ever happens during a window with a tiurnament until that tournament is over.
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I'd take NRC back if he's available
Decent DCM
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The number of transfers always pick up in July once the players are back in training but the bulk happen in August - probably because some deals require a lot of work and for certain things to happen first.
It can be like buying a house - you end up in a chain where one club wants a specific player and will only let the player you're after go once they've got them. It must be like a game of Domino's at times, especially with agents involved. The big i.e. Champions League clubs always seem to get the majority of their business done early.
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I wouldnt take back NRC. Below average Premiership player. Great heart, no pace, no vision and crap passing
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I wouldnt take back NRC. Below average Premiership player. Great heart, no pace, no vision and crap passing
Just trying to be realistic
People banding names like de Jong about need a reality check
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I'd take NRC back if he's available
Decent DCM
Where to start on disagreeing with that? He is almost as crap as Jordan Henderson, perhaps that is the most telling comment I could make. You can always tell crap players because people can remember the individual games in which they played well. In Reo-Coker's case, you can go one better than that and actually remember the passes he completed. Bolton in the Championship is his standard and there he should stay
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de jong is on 100grand a week at city
next case
Frightening and for such an average player too. As good as an example of why teams deserve to be bankrupt - but of course in City's case probably never will be - as you could wish to find
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Wouldn't mind Mulumbu from the Baggies.
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NZonzi anyone ?
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NZonzi anyone ?
Keep going! ;-)
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Isnt Faulkner on holiday so thats why things are slow.
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Isnt Faulkner on holiday so thats why things are slow.
Hasn`t he got a company Blackberry then?
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NZonzi anyone ?
Keep going! ;-)
Ok, Hargreaves
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I'd take NRC back if he's available
Decent DCM
Where to start on disagreeing with that? He is almost as crap as Jordan Henderson, perhaps that is the most telling comment I could make. You can always tell crap players because people can remember the individual games in which they played well. In Reo-Coker's case, you can go one better than that and actually remember the passes he completed. Bolton in the Championship is his standard and there he should stay
A little harsh on Jordan Henderson there Richard. Yes Liverpool paid way over the odds for him, but he showed some real promise at Sunderland.
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I think De Jong is exactly who we should be going for. It's not above our station to be linked with a player like him. What does throw it out the water as someone has pointed out is his massive wages. He is over paid from that point of view. Man city over paid with the transfer fee (he could have gone for free six months later). He is a very good player but he is t in the 100k a week bracket. I suppose you're only worth what someone is willing to pay for you. Clubs like Man City are completely squewing wages since they can pay what they want.
Maz, I saw an article on SSN saying City were open to offers rather than letting him go for free next year.
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I think De Jong is exactly who we should be going for. It's not above our station to be linked with a player like him. What does throw it out the water as someone has pointed out is his massive wages. He is over paid from that point of view. Man city over paid with the transfer fee (he could have gone for free six months later). He is a very good player but he is t in the 100k a week bracket. I suppose you're only worth what someone is willing to pay for you. Clubs like Man City are completely squewing wages since they can pay what they want.
Maz, I saw an article on SSN saying City were open to offers rather than letting him go for free next year.
He'll have offers from CL clubs I'd imagine, someone like Milan/Inter/Juve. Think we need to be a bit more realistic considering our current situation. Plus, he's a C***.
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In the position he plays, being a bit of a c**t is often an advantage. See Keane, Roy.
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I'd take NRC back if he's available
Decent DCM
Where to start on disagreeing with that? He is almost as crap as Jordan Henderson, perhaps that is the most telling comment I could make. You can always tell crap players because people can remember the individual games in which they played well. In Reo-Coker's case, you can go one better than that and actually remember the passes he completed. Bolton in the Championship is his standard and there he should stay
A little harsh on Jordan Henderson there Richard. Yes Liverpool paid way over the odds for him, but he showed some real promise at Sunderland.
A decent young player who has been completely overrated and currently out of his depth. The fact he is in the England squad is quite astonishing. He's basically a poor man's early 2000s Lee Hendrie.
The way his head wobbles about on his goose neck annoys me too.
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I'd take NRC back if he's available
Decent DCM
Where to start on disagreeing with that? He is almost as crap as Jordan Henderson, perhaps that is the most telling comment I could make. You can always tell crap players because people can remember the individual games in which they played well. In Reo-Coker's case, you can go one better than that and actually remember the passes he completed. Bolton in the Championship is his standard and there he should stay
Except he's bailed on them invoking a relegation release clause. Obviously keeping an eye on movement after the Euro's. Milan, Real, Bayern who knows which of the games giants will be the next to ignore his limited talents.
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NZonzi anyone ?
The only Blackburn player i'd want us to sign is Martin Olsson. I would guess he may be getting a few phone calls after his displays at the Euro's though.
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NZonzi anyone ?
The only Blackburn player i'd want us to sign is Martin Olsson. I would guess he may be getting a few phone calls after his displays at the Euro's though.
I'll admit that I didn't see the Sweden v France game, but I thought Olsson was poor in the other two games he played, including a shocker against Ukraine. Maybe he just had a poor tournament.
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I dont rate either of the Blackburn Olssons.
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I think De Jong is exactly who we should be going for. It's not above our station to be linked with a player like him. What does throw it out the water as someone has pointed out is his massive wages. He is over paid from that point of view. Man city over paid with the transfer fee (he could have gone for free six months later). He is a very good player but he is t in the 100k a week bracket. I suppose you're only worth what someone is willing to pay for you. Clubs like Man City are completely squewing wages since they can pay what they want.
Maz, I saw an article on SSN saying City were open to offers rather than letting him go for free next year.
He'd see Villa as a step down and so I'd question whether he'd be bothered or not.
I'd rather players going up in their careers, not taking on those on the way down.
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He might see it that way. Or he might might see it as a chance to play all the time.
Either way I think its unlikely. But he's the right kind of player. Our midfield last season was as stalwart and imposing as Chessington World of Adventure. Small children could probably wander around in it without fear too.
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Karim El Ahmadi
Called it ;)
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El Ahmadi looks a decent player. He's quite nimble and covers the pitch quickly. Seems to read the game well. From the look of it too, though I'm basing this on Youtube, he seems to instigate a lot of attacks when on the ball. Always seems to be available for his team mates to pass to as well. I think if anything he seems like a more techniquely accomplished Nigel Reo-Coker. He's got that engine and a turn of speed. Always running but is able to keep the ball a lot better.
Well, here's hoping. The Prem is a whole other level to the Dutch league in fairness. Nige may look just as accomplished in the Championship.
But I like that its not a usual type of signing for us. He's a little bit of an unknown. I look forward to seeing him and Holman playing.
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Al Martino? Brilliant. Oooh Spanish eyes da da da da dada da daaaaaaaa...
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So, just to sum up, it'll be Holman officially, but a guy called Karim El Ahmadi will sign from Feyenoord for around two mill!! I'd say on or around the 2nd of July.