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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: maidstonevillain on June 01, 2012, 10:12:05 PM

Title: Des Bremner article.
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 01, 2012, 10:12:05 PM
A good read. Although does seem to be bit dismissive of Tony Barton.

http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/sport/football/interview-des-bremner-former-hibernian-midfielder-and-european-cup-winner-1-2304987
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Archie on June 01, 2012, 10:45:21 PM
Fantastic read, thank you for sharing, I had the chance to meet  Dezzie at the End of the season gala and he gave me the impression to be  a very, very nice guy!

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2cqctac.jpg)
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 01, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
He was a massive hero to us at the time and I know the Villa faithful really appreciated his incredible work-rate. I've always thought of him as a quiet hero. Unsung, never!

He puts some of today's prima donnas to shame.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: purpletrousers on June 01, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
Thank you. Thoroughly enjoyed reading that. Des's dad was at the back of our traveller's club coach for the trip to Rotterdam. It's memories like that, being tickled by Peter Withe as I sat on his knee for a photo and Allan Evans's great big St. Bernard dog Hannah lolloping around Bodymoor Heath that mark my childhood. I'll send a link of this thread/article to my dad.

(going a bit off topic, but I'm eternally grateful to my Dad for my being a very young season ticket holder in those glorious years, I didn't appreciate fully at the time how few 8year olds were in Rotterdam!)

Back on topic, I loved, how in every game at least at one point my dad would shout "Skin 'im Des!" as he bombed down the wing past his man.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Stu on June 02, 2012, 12:27:05 AM
Nice read. Sort of off-topic; I see the article was written by Aidan Smith, author of the superb 'Heartfelt' - one of the best football books ever.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 02, 2012, 11:15:35 AM
He still turns out for the Villa Old Stars. Usually at full back as he doesn't quite do the same mileage during a game now.
In fact, I saw him play 45 minutes in a charity game at The Hawthorns only a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: ChrissyPrice on June 02, 2012, 11:58:19 AM
Great article. His account of his childhood seems a little like Eamon Deacy's. Both kept their feet on their ground.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 02, 2012, 03:08:02 PM
Good article. How accurate is it that Barton was scout, rather than assistant manager, in all-but-name? Never heard that before.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Damo70 on June 02, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
Roy McLaren was the proper assistant manager. Tony Barton was apparently responsible for scouting signings like Swain, Evans, Bremner, Withe and Morley. He was an old Portsmouth team mate of Ron Saunders. When he was appointed caretaker manager of the League Champions the press dubbed him 'Tony Who?'. By the end of the season 'Tony Who?' was 'European Cup winning manager Tony Barton'.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on June 02, 2012, 05:01:12 PM
So what happens to Roy as I don't know much about his career
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Damo70 on June 02, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
I don't know much about him before or after Villa. I think he was a former goalkeeper who was assistant to Ron Saunders and then Tony Barton. I believe when he and Tony Barton left Villa he moved to Australia.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 02, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
Correct. He moved to Melbourne and opened a football academy that I think had links with the Villa, at least around the time Sir Brian was manager.

Back to Des, apart from the obvious heroics of Spink, Des was my MOTM in Rotterdam, he was bloody everywhere. As others have said, great player and extremely underrated but not by Saunders who absolutely loved him and appreciated the job Des did for the team.

I always saw him in Sutton doing a bit of shopping before Xmas every time I was back home. Gutted I never saw him last time, Christmas just isn't Christmas without seeing Des. Does anybody know if he still lives locally?
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 02, 2012, 06:22:18 PM
Great article. His account of his childhood seems a little like Eamon Deacy's. Both kept their feet on their ground.

He was manager's assistant - they were very particular about that title. Roy McLaren was first team coach.

Have you been celebrating the appointment of our new manager?
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 02, 2012, 06:22:42 PM
Great article. His account of his childhood seems a little like Eamon Deacy's. Both kept their feet on their ground.

He was manager's assistant - they were very particular about that title. Roy McLaren was first team coach.

Have you been celebrating the appointment of our new manager?

Not yet, why? Ah, just seen it. Soon fix that.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 02, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
Good article. How accurate is it that Barton was scout, rather than assistant manager, in all-but-name? Never heard that before.

He was manager's assistant - they were very particular about that title. Roy McLaren was first team coach.
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Post by: The Left Side on June 05, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Thanks for posting the article
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Havencheese on June 06, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
Do like the fact that I have the same surname as he does. As fairly obscure as it is outside Scotland, bet people still get it wrong for him too: Bremna, Brenda, Bremmer.

Great read, played a vital role and seems a cracking bloke.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: charlie on June 06, 2012, 10:00:44 AM
I think Des lives in the Walmley area, often see him in the Post Office, still a very smart bloke and extremely pleasant. A genuine top man in the title and European teams, far more than reliable. Des in our present team would be invaluable............., as would Gary, Dennis, Ken, Alan, Kenny, either left back, Sid, ........ Tony.. Eamon God rest him, much underrated, much skill, bloody professional, fun to watch, just like last year was'nt.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: 5ft811st2 Durham on June 06, 2012, 10:03:50 AM
Interesting article, but to call  Geordie terrible is ridiculous.

For me it's a charming film, and as an early colour film does full justice to the  scenery around Aberfoyle which  is absolutely stunning
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 06, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
Des is a great bloke now and was no different at the height of our success. It is brilliant that he is at Villa Park so often these days.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: villan from luton on June 07, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 08, 2012, 07:07:43 PM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 

I remember that game - it was during a period when we couldn't buy a goal.  Ken McNaught had a perfectly good header disallowed (Terry Weir's picture in the next programme showed conclusive proof that he never had his hands on an Arsenal defender's shoulders that some eejit ref saw fit to blow up for).

It was this month or so of goalless performances that led to the "Villa score, Villa score, Once you get once you'll get more" chant. It was "Knees up Mother Brown " that kept us happy on the Holte  though....
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: D.boy on June 08, 2012, 08:28:59 PM
I used to love "Knees up mother Brown" on the old Holte. I used to end up carried down the terrace in the crowd.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Aston Manor on June 09, 2012, 12:34:53 AM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 

I remember that game - it was during a period when we couldn't buy a goal.  Ken McNaught had a perfectly good header disallowed (Terry Weir's picture in the next programme showed conclusive proof that he never had his hands on an Arsenal defender's shoulders that some eejit ref saw fit to blow up for).

It was this month or so of goalless performances that led to the "Villa score, Villa score, Once you get once you'll get more" chant.

"... we will not be mastered by those cockney bas8ards so score, Viiiiiilla score". Ah, memories.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 09, 2012, 09:03:39 AM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 

I remember that game - it was during a period when we couldn't buy a goal.  Ken McNaught had a perfectly good header disallowed (Terry Weir's picture in the next programme showed conclusive proof that he never had his hands on an Arsenal defender's shoulders that some eejit ref saw fit to blow up for).

It was this month or so of goalless performances that led to the "Villa score, Villa score, Once you get once you'll get more" chant.

"... we will not be mastered by those cockney bas8ards so score, Viiiiiilla score". Ah, memories.
Also 'we'll see your assembly, when we get to Wembley'.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 09, 2012, 10:04:37 AM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 

I remember that game - it was during a period when we couldn't buy a goal.  Ken McNaught had a perfectly good header disallowed (Terry Weir's picture in the next programme showed conclusive proof that he never had his hands on an Arsenal defender's shoulders that some eejit ref saw fit to blow up for).

It was this month or so of goalless performances that led to the "Villa score, Villa score, Once you get once you'll get more" chant.

"... we will not be mastered by those cockney bas8ards so score, Viiiiiilla score". Ah, memories.

My memory of that version is of the same tune but different poetry::

Fuck em all, fuck em all,
Tottenham, West Ham and Millwall,
We won't be mastered
By no cockney bastards,
So don't fuck one fuck em all
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: PeterWithe on June 09, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
Does anybody know if he still lives locally?

I bought him a pint in Walmley Cricket Club a year or two ago so presume he lives around there as I've also seen him in Carrefour a few times as well.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 09, 2012, 02:18:33 PM
He goes down the match as well, so he probably still lives locally.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: villan from luton on June 09, 2012, 10:11:13 PM
Anyone remember his debut at home to Arsenal, 0-0 draw, with Geddis and I think Mike Pejic making their debuts. He looked as if he had never seen a football before, but went on to become a great servant for the club 

I remember that game - it was during a period when we couldn't buy a goal.  Ken McNaught had a perfectly good header disallowed (Terry Weir's picture in the next programme showed conclusive proof that he never had his hands on an Arsenal defender's shoulders that some eejit ref saw fit to blow up for).

It was this month or so of goalless performances that led to the "Villa score, Villa score, Once you get once you'll get more" chant. It was "Knees up Mother Brown " that kept us happy on the Holte  though....

I remember it well, lets be fair though and Des will say it himself, he looked like a poor pub player. I thought Sir Ron had lost his senses.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: badluckeric(gates) on June 11, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
If I live to be 200 I believe I will never see a better midfield at VP than Des/Sid/Dennis. Top top man.
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: purpletrousers on March 26, 2017, 05:42:52 AM
Not sure this got posted last year?


Interview: Des Bremner on the rise and fall of Aston Villa, memories of Hibs, and why Ron Saunders was the Pep Guardiola of his day (15 May 2016) (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14493665.Interview__Des_Bremner_on_the_rise_and_fall_of_Aston_Villa__memories_of_Hibs__and_why_Ron_Saunders_was_the_Pep_Guardiola_of_his_day/)
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on March 26, 2017, 05:46:46 AM
You missed the : thingy Here is the right link.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14493665.Interview__Des_Bremner_on_the_rise_and_fall_of_Aston_Villa__memories_of_Hibs__and_why_Ron_Saunders_was_the_Pep_Guardiola_of_his_day//



Damn read good as well! Thanks!
Title: Re: Des Bremner article.
Post by: purpletrousers on March 26, 2017, 05:54:48 AM
Ah, you beat me to it, thanks yep I'd realised, was busy correcting the Saunders link first - check out that long read too..
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 26, 2017, 07:37:19 AM
"Like the Leicester City of the day"

No we weren't.
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Post by: darren woolley on March 26, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
Good article thanks for posting.
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