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Title: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Chris Harte on May 24, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
With Facebook and Twitter, its never been so easy for the average Joe to get their opinions into public view. I sometimes look at the BBC Website's "Sportsday" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/18186343) live feed and scratch my head in bemusement at some of the comments.

For instance:

Chris Yeomans on Twitter: "Short-sightedness from Villa to release Heskey when Owen is on a free, the old partnership could have had a renaissance."

Two players with a combined age of 65 or 66, who would be seeking a combined weekly wage of 140k. And how many appearances have they made over the last three years?
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Damo70 on May 24, 2012, 09:34:09 AM
Not sure if he would be classed as an Ordinary Joe but has Darren "Goughie" Gough waded into our managerial debate yet? He was very vocal about the fans versus AM issue towards the end of the season on the basis he had a mate who is a Villa fan and he had been to a game with him during the season.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Chipsticks on May 24, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Could just be a poor attempt at being funny?

But if not I like to believe that natural selection will eventually filter these people out.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: mal on May 24, 2012, 09:43:21 AM
Gavin Sunley ‏@GavinSunley

#Heskey seen in Sunderland, apparently he went for Middlesbrough but missed #bbcsportsday

is a poor attempt at being funny. Come on, Darwin.

Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on May 24, 2012, 09:47:09 AM
I'm currently writing a programme to put an "Idiot Filter" button on social network sites. It works very well, trouble is you just end up with blank pages. ;)
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Concrete John on May 24, 2012, 09:57:11 AM
I don't mind them talking about us - everyone is entitled to an opinion.  But what I don't like is such poor research and ill informed 'facts' people like Talkshite come out with, which the masses then take on as gospel.  Such as Bent missing most of the season (he didn't), the fans being on AM's back from the start (we weren't) and Martinez being offered the job last summer (he wasn't).
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 24, 2012, 10:12:38 AM
Not sure if he would be classed as an Ordinary Joe but has Darren "Goughie" Gough waded into our managerial debate yet? He was very vocal about the fans versus AM issue towards the end of the season on the basis he had a mate who is a Villa fan and he had been to a game with him during the season.

When a guy from Barnsley who took over 200 test wickets for England talks about the Villa, I think we should give his opinions the attention they deserve.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: sideshow on May 24, 2012, 10:35:52 AM
Adrian Durham on TS yesterday,

"Solskjaer turned down the Villa, would he have turned down Man Utd?"

1, he wasnt actually offered the job (as far as we know, so therefore as far as Durham knows), and 2, how on earth can you try to stimulate debate by comparing the Villa vacancy to a hypothetical vacancy at Man Utd.

Twat.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: john e on May 24, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
Heskey and Owen sounds like a deadly duo to me
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 24, 2012, 11:01:43 AM
Heskey and Owen sounds like a deadly duo to me

Go on pubehead , you know you want them.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: MoetVillan on May 24, 2012, 11:22:46 AM
Villa being shortsighted?  Im starting to think it was Heskey that was short sighted, because good defensive striker he was, he couldnt see that goal!
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 24, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
On that subject who is the manic depressive who is Vernon.
Every time he gets a platform on the radio he just depresses the life out of me - he never has anything positive to say about us

Its no wonder they let him on as he conforms almost exactly to the negative image the media trys to portray us in
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Mac on May 24, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
I remain at a loss why anyone would listen to TalkSport.  They deliberately talk shite simply to get you wound up and to talk about them.  I mean no body with two brain cells to rub together could really believe what they say could they?

Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Mac on May 24, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
On that subject who is the manic depressive who is Vernon.
Every time he gets a platform on the radio he just depresses the life out of me - he never has anything positive to say about us

Its no wonder they let him on as he conforms almost exactly to the negative image the media trys to portray us in

Which is probably why they have him on. He fits their stereotype and reinforces them holding those vews themselves
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Pete3206 on May 24, 2012, 01:15:56 PM
Adrian Durham on TS yesterday,

"Solskjęr turned down the Villa, would he have turned down Man Utd?"

1, he wasnt actually offered the job (as far as we know, so therefore as far as Durham knows), and 2, how on earth can you try to stimulate debate by comparing the Villa vacancy to a hypothetical vacancy at Man Utd.

Twat.

His other pearl of wisdom was that Ian Holloway would be a perfect fit for Villa.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: nigel on May 24, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
Not sure if he would be classed as an Ordinary Joe but has Darren "Goughie" Gough waded into our managerial debate yet? He was very vocal about the fans versus AM issue towards the end of the season on the basis he had a mate who is a Villa fan and he had been to a game with him during the season.
That's 1 more game than many who voiced an opinion though.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Vanilla on May 24, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Not sure if he would be classed as an Ordinary Joe but has Darren "Goughie" Gough waded into our managerial debate yet? He was very vocal about the fans versus AM issue towards the end of the season on the basis he had a mate who is a Villa fan and he had been to a game with him during the season.
That's 1 more game than many who voiced an opinion though.

The only opinion that counts are the ones with pound signs at the end of them.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 24, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club could apply to a lot on this site to be honest. I'm thinking of one person in particular, meh.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Steve R on May 24, 2012, 05:12:06 PM
I cannot remember anyone ever calling or e-mailing a talk show to say 'I agree completely, I have nothing useful to add'.

Broadcasting troll shows works, the presenters are paid to talk bollocks.

It is only natural that stations such as talksport should go for the best there is and employ tossers like Darren Gough.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: mazrimsbruv on May 24, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
Gavin Sunley ‏@GavinSunley

#Heskey seen in Sunderland, apparently he went for Middlesbrough but missed #bbcsportsday

is a poor attempt at being funny. Come on, Darwin.



You do realise Darwin merely proposed the Theory of Natural Selection, don't you? He's not actually controlling the process from beyond the grave, (via some backwards time travelling) though I do accept that, in some cases, it would be nice if he could!
 ;)
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: mazrimsbruv on May 24, 2012, 05:43:59 PM
I remember back in April we were playing Sunderland and Blackburn went a goal up against Norwich.

Some Dingle called James Deleva, who clearly fancies himself as a Journo and always seems to get his inane drivel posted on BBC Live feed, posted the following:

"Blackburn ahead. Looking over your shoulders, Villa Park?"

I texted: "Re James Deleva at 15.44: I think you'll find that Villa Park can't look over its shoulders, on account of it not having any, on account of it being a football stadium."

They posted it straight away. I was getting texts all weekend from mates saying 'Was that you?'

To prove what a prize, Villa-hating bell-end he is, they posted another of his tweets the following weekend when we were playing West Brom, saying:

"As a Wolves fan, I can't believe I'm saying this but: COME ON YOU BAGGIES!!!"

What a cock. 
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: mazrimsbruv on May 24, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
0% Villa but my absolute favourite and easily the most stratospherically stupid comment I've ever seen on any message board or live football feed was when Arsenal recently played Wigan at the Emirates.

Wigan scored twice in the first 8 minutes and were all over Arsenal. After about 20 minutes Vermaelen scored for the Gunners.

Somebody texted in to BBC Live Football something like the following:

"That's it! Arsenal have scored! Game over! There's no way back for Wigan now!"

Wigan saw the game out to win 2-1.

 :o

Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 24, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Phew! I thought you were gunning for me after the reading the first few words.

How the devil are ya anyway mazrimsbruv? Long time no see.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: joe_c on May 24, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club could apply to a lot on this site to be honest. I'm thinking of one person in particular, meh.

It's... it's me isn't it?
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 24, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
They said 'Ordinary' Joes Joe.

(Actually they put an errant apostrophe in there as well).
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: mazrimsbruv on May 24, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Phew! I thought you were gunning for me after the reading the first few words.

How the devil are ya anyway mazrimsbruv? Long time no see.

Good thanks Percy. Hope you're well.

Yeah I got very disillusioned last summer, both with Villa and H&V. Decided to prioritize my sanity!

Spent most of the season either watching Skiing or actually doing it.

Now TSM has gone I've been re-infected with the 'hope bug' (ya know, the one that kills ya?) so I'm sort of back in the fold.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Rotterdam on May 24, 2012, 07:34:51 PM
I remain at a loss why anyone would listen to TalkSport.  They deliberately talk shite simply to get you wound up and to talk about them.  I mean no body with two brain cells to rub together could really believe what they say could they?



Agreed. It's complete drivel of the highest order.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 24, 2012, 07:47:31 PM
I remain at a loss why anyone would listen to TalkSport.  They deliberately talk shite simply to get you wound up and to talk about them.  I mean no body with two brain cells to rub together could really believe what they say could they?



Agreed. It's complete drivel of the highest order.

But useful for keeping up with the latest promotions at Selco and if you need information on puchasing workwear.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: joecrow on May 24, 2012, 08:32:45 PM
I remain at a loss why anyone would listen to TalkSport.  They deliberately talk shite simply to get you wound up and to talk about them.  I mean no body with two brain cells to rub together could really believe what they say could they?



Agreed. It's complete drivel of the highest order.

But useful for keeping up with the latest promotions at Selco and if you need information on puchasing workwear.

excellant! just spat tea all over my laptop!
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 24, 2012, 08:35:43 PM
Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club could apply to a lot on this site to be honest. I'm thinking of one person in particular, meh.

It's... it's me isn't it?

Say it ain't so, Joe.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: john e on May 24, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
the only thing worse than ordinary joe's talking crap about Villa, is ordinary Joes not talking about us at all.

( O. Wilde.  revised version)  i think
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: wookster on May 25, 2012, 08:14:45 AM
Its amazing how many ex Villa players speak on TS and there's only Collymore who actually has anything good to say.

You'd think Tony Cascarino was a world beater the way he talks and critisies strikers, what a waste of a pair of boots he was
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Hopadop on May 25, 2012, 01:18:58 PM
They're just lazy so and so's.

I've checked, no-one else has done it so the honour is mine

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YOb5IC1js&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLF6444FE9688F44A0
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 25, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
Tony Cascarino is a prick. Can't listen to anything he has to say, can't even understand what the mongol writes.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Nev on May 25, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Tony Cascarino is a prick. Can't listen to anything he has to say, can't even understand what the mongol writes.

Mongol? I know he fiddled his Irish ancestory but this may be a bit trickier.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Chris Harte on May 25, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
Tony Cascarino is a prick. Can't listen to anything he has to say, can't even understand what the mongol writes.

Mongol? I know he fiddled his Irish ancestory but this may be a bit trickier.
Before Jackie Charlton got him in the Ireland team, Ghengis Khan made a sneeky little enquiry about Cascarino running riot through Asia, into the Middle East and going head-to-head with the Greeks and the Romans.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: adrenachrome on May 25, 2012, 03:33:31 PM
Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club could apply to a lot on this site to be honest. I'm thinking of one person in particular, meh.

Biggest *facepalm*  EVOH
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 25, 2012, 03:51:57 PM
Tony Cascarino is a prick. Can't listen to anything he has to say, can't even understand what the mongol writes.
He was hardly a Genghis Khan when he played.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: rutski on May 26, 2012, 04:15:23 PM
Sitting next to Norwich fans at Trent bridge. They are adamant we no way step up from their club and Lambert would be mad to move. Twats!

Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: Monty on May 26, 2012, 04:18:27 PM
Sitting next to Norwich fans at Trent bridge. They are adamant we no way step up from their club and Lambert would be mad to move. Twats!

Well, as far as I'm concerned, they're bloody welcome to him and to their delusions. I have a feeling that second season syndrome will catch up with them next season.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: john e on May 26, 2012, 04:19:59 PM
Sitting next to Norwich fans at Trent bridge. They are adamant we no way step up from their club and Lambert would be mad to move. Twats!




were they 'High Sixing' each other when the wickets fell ?
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: unclefabio on May 26, 2012, 06:38:43 PM
My barber was talking some shit about the Villa a few weeks ago. No longer a big club, going to be relegated soon, no money (true to an extent but you'd think we were Rangers the way he was going on), McLeish couldn't do much better given the resources, etc. Reckoned we wouldn't sack TSM because it would cost too much in compensation. Does a good haircut, mind you, so I'll be back in a few weeks to hear him speculate on who we'll sell Darren Bent to.
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: James on May 26, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
Tony Cascarino is a prick. Can't listen to anything he has to say, can't even understand what the mongol writes.
He was hardly a Genghis Khan when he played.

Quite, more a Ghengis Khan't!
Title: Re: Ordinary Joe's talking crap about our club
Post by: brian green on May 26, 2012, 07:06:25 PM
The depressing thing is how many of the lumpen proletariat have their opinions shaped by the liars and fantasists in the media and on the electronic sites.

When we had just sacked McLeish I was at a wholesale market and was approach by an old twat about my own age wearing a Man U cap.   Everybody knows where I stand so he decided to give me a dressing down for Villa being so hateful and unfair to McLeish.   All the garbage he spouted was straight from the pages of the tabloids - "been on his back since day one" "never given a chance" "you hate him because of the club he came from" "had no money to spend" "spent most of the season with a team comprising youth team players" etc. etc.

There are people out there who are so stupid that they believe if Cascarino/Savage/Shearer says something it must be true.
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