Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 09, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
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FABIAN Delph has been advised to modify his game to kickstart his Aston Villa career after setbacks in training prevented him from playing a part in the survival run-in.
Delph was hoping to be involved in the final fixtures of the campaign after making an earlier-than-expected recovery from the ankle surgery he underwent in February.
But the 22-year-old midfielder will be held back until he is completely fit next season after continuing to feel soreness with the joint on the training pitches.
Delph started the season as a first-team regular at Villa but has not played for them since December and got injured on loan at former club Leeds three months ago.
“When I saw Delphy get back in training with the group a few weeks ago, he was as sharp and as powerful as I’ve seen him,” said McLeish.
“He’s fought back well. He’s a determined boy. He’s been through some bad injuries and he’s really worked hard to get himself to this level.
“We do need to try to be careful with him but you try to get the evidence from the training. I know that it’s not a real marker in terms of the real thing but he has trained well, even in practice matches.
“He was close to making the bench and we considered whether he could he be a starter.
“But, again, it’s these wee niggles. One day he’s fine and the next day he’ll train and feel it pounding again, so it’s a wee bit of maintenance in the summer.
“I don’t envisage he’ll be involved until next season now.”
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I don't think he's as good as Gardenery or Herdy personally.
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I'm sure there is a joke about Delphy and the notorious Adelphi in Liverpool. Buggered if I can be bothered to think of it though.
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Oracle at Delphy?
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I would be quite happy to sell 'Delphy' at a decent price to McLeish later in the summer.
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I would be quite happy to sell 'Delphy' at a decent price to McLeish later in the summer.
Maybe we could give him Delphy as payment-in-kind compensation when we sack him?
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I would be quite happy to sell 'Delphy' at a decent price to McLeish later in the summer.
Maybe we could give him Delphy as payment-in-kind compensation when we sack him?
A bit bloody generous, that. Now if you'd said Alan Hutton..
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I would be quite happy to sell 'Delphy' at a decent price to McLeish later in the summer.
Maybe we could give him Delphy as payment-in-kind compensation when we sack him?
A bit bloody generous, that. Now if you'd said Alan Hutton..
Now now, there's no need to be quite that nasty.
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I think ‘Delphy’ is a player who would benefit from a change of scenery.
He started this season ok but then went right of the boil before getting more injuries and I just don’t think its going to happen for him at the villa.
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Be glad to see the back of Heskeyy the big useless donkeyy.
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It will be interesting to see if he makes the squad for tomorrow's Reserves Final in Manchester. We need to win that. Judging by the manager's comments, it may be deemed too risky for Delph.
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He's not as shitty shotty as Huttony, but still not goody enough for the Premiershipy.
Terrible mis-timer of tackles and a walking yellow/red card magnet.
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I think ‘Delphy’ is a player who would benefit from a change of scenery.
He started this season ok but then went right of the boil before getting more injuries and I just don’t think its going to happen for him at the villa.
I think most players would go off the boil having to play in an unfamiliar position. Delph never was or will be a defensive midfielder. Add to that Stan suddenly deciding it was he that was the box to box player and it's understandable why Delph's performances were not up to standard, not to mention the impact it had on our defence.
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I think ‘Delphy’ is a player who would benefit from a change of scenery.
He started this season ok but then went right of the boil before getting more injuries and I just don’t think its going to happen for him at the villa.
I think most players would go off the boil having to play in an unfamiliar position. Delph never was or will be a defensive midfielder. Add to that Stan suddenly deciding it was he that was the box to box player and it's understandable why Delph's performances were not up to standard, not to mention the impact it had on our defence.
I see what your saying but for me he has not shown enough since we signed him.
We've also got better youngsters coming through the system.
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Despite misgivings (and like Makoun) we have to persevere with him in this age of austerity.
He cost a bloody fortune really and we're unlikely to recoup much by getting rid of him.
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I think ‘Delphy’ is a player who would benefit from a change of scenery.
He started this season ok but then went right of the boil before getting more injuries and I just don’t think its going to happen for him at the villa.
I think most players would go off the boil having to play in an unfamiliar position. Delph never was or will be a defensive midfielder. Add to that Stan suddenly deciding it was he that was the box to box player and it's understandable why Delph's performances were not up to standard, not to mention the impact it had on our defence.
I see what your saying but for me he has not shown enough since we signed him.
We've also got better youngsters coming through the system.
Delph is younger than both Chris Herd and Ciaran Clark and less than a month older than Barry Bannan. Whilst I think Gardner has brilliant potential I won't put Delph on the scrap heap just yet. Let's see what he can do injury free and with a decent manager for once.
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Delph is younger than both Chris Herd and Ciaran Clark and less than a month older than Barry Bannan. Whilst I think Gardner has brilliant potential I won't put Delph on the scrap heap just yet. Let's see what he can do injury free and with a decent manager for once.
That just underlines the stupidity of spending £8m on a youth player with no top flight experience.
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I think ‘Delphy’ is a player who would benefit from a change of scenery.
He started this season ok but then went right of the boil before getting more injuries and I just don’t think its going to happen for him at the villa.
I think most players would go off the boil having to play in an unfamiliar position. Delph never was or will be a defensive midfielder. Add to that Stan suddenly deciding it was he that was the box to box player and it's understandable why Delph's performances were not up to standard, not to mention the impact it had on our defence.
I see what your saying but for me he has not shown enough since we signed him.
We've also got better youngsters coming through the system.
Delph is younger than both Chris Herd and Ciaran Clark and less than a month older than Barry Bannan. Whilst I think Gardner has brilliant potential I won't put Delph on the scrap heap just yet. Let's see what he can do injury free and with a decent manager for once.
To be fair I didn't realize he was younger than Herd. As for playing for a decent manager, Well he will definitely have to move on for that. :D
I would like to see an injury free Delph to see what he has got but for me Herd and Gardner are both better.
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Julie?
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Despite misgivings (and like Makoun) we have to persevere with him in this age of austerity.
He cost a bloody fortune really and we're unlikely to recoup much by getting rid of him.
Could say that about most of our squad apart from the "youngsters"
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I think he needs to be given a shot in his best position before we make a judgement. He's been picked in the Herd role but I think he needs to be played alongside Herd before we can see the best of him.
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To skinny for his own good, and mis-times his tackles something awful. Trouble is, financially we`re not in any position right now to discard high investment players like Delph.
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I would be quite happy to sell 'Delphy' at a decent price to McLeish later in the summer.
That'd make a healthy Delphy wealthy :D
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I don't think he's as good as Gardenery or Herdy personally.
I agree.
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I think he needs to be given a shot in his best position before we make a judgement. He's been picked in the Herd role but I think he needs to be played alongside Herd before we can see the best of him.
Agree with that, John. His best displays were half a season for Leeds playing in the middle in a box to box role. They then played him out wide and he was generally crap. He's a player that needs to be involved, linking play and where there's an opportunity to shoot.
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I don't think he's as good as Gardenery or Herdy personally.
At the moment he is ahead of Gardner for me, but both look like they have the talent to progress.
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Aston Villa were/are probably the last club which needs to spend millions on a youth player with potential.
We have had a production line of youth players for years. Not many world beaters of late but plenty better than anything Delph has done. Another example of MON wasting our money.
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Delph is younger than both Chris Herd and Ciaran Clark and less than a month older than Barry Bannan. Whilst I think Gardner has brilliant potential I won't put Delph on the scrap heap just yet. Let's see what he can do injury free and with a decent manager for once.
That just underlines the stupidity of spending £8m on a youth player with no top flight experience.
Nothing wrong with taking a gamble like that occasionally. Man U paid 12m for Ronaldo and a similar amount for Nani before they'd done anything, and from a foreign country to boot.
Delph was really disappointing during his run in the side at the start of the season but I'd like to see him given another chance. He needs to be brought into the team and allowed to do what he does best. You could see his confidence get lower and lower this year. Personally I think he's got the ability to be a success. Whether he'll actually do so or not will depend a lot on our manager and Delph's body holding up.
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Delph is younger than both Chris Herd and Ciaran Clark and less than a month older than Barry Bannan. Whilst I think Gardner has brilliant potential I won't put Delph on the scrap heap just yet. Let's see what he can do injury free and with a decent manager for once.
That just underlines the stupidity of spending £8m on a youth player with no top flight experience.
Nothing wrong with taking a gamble like that occasionally. Man U paid 12m for Ronaldo and a similar amount for Nani before they'd done anything, and from a foreign country to boot.
That would be Portugal. Nani had broke into the full Portugese side the year before signing for Man U, and Ronaldho made his full debut around the time he signed. I think Delph had a couple of run outs in our U-21s to go with his few dozen appearances in the 3rd tier of our league.
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I see our on pitch creativity is matched by our nick naming. genius.
My advice to delphy would be to cut out the bit of his game where he recklessly kicks people and comes off worse.
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Give me Makoun, Gardner, Herd and Bannan over Delphy every day of the week. I have never been impressed with him.
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Pre season friendly against Fiorentina many moons ago?
1-1 home draw with Man United 2 seasons back?
I think he's got the talent. Would be a shame if it wasn't realised. Spunking 8m on him should be a reason to persevere more, not less.
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This is boring. I am going outside to plant my delphiniums. Likes a nice Delphy does Mrs Green.
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Unfortunately this lad is injury prone and I can see this ending in an insurance claim for us to recover some of the transfer money.
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He deserves a chance next season. Everyone is very quick to criticise but I think young, up and coming talent from the championship is exactly what we should be taking a gamble on. There aren't many players that have covered themselves in glory but it's quite a step up from the champ to the prem, he's also had bad injuries. U can teach a player to cut out the stupid tackles but u can't teach natural talent which I do think he poseses
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another appalling transfer made by the pube-headed one. 6m on someone who looks good in Div1 is not even vaguely sane judgement. Even if he'd done it at championship level it would have been a bit steep. To me he looks a lot worse than some of our home grown youngsters and probably will end up eventually in the Championship(after we've paid him god knows how much for the length of his contract)
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He has a cultured left foot and the ability to go past players as well as a decent shot. If he can learn how to tackle or how to not tackle instead of diving-in and getting booked/injuring himself I think he could yet have a future.
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I'd look to move him on this summer. Would rather Makoun got more of a chance next season.