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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Chipsticks on May 05, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
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So, as of today per an unexpected phone call, I've been faced with a tough decision.
My closest friend is a Blue Nose, and we have gradually developed a tradition where for Birthdays/Christmas etc. We take the other one to a game, so I take him down the Villa a couple of times a year and he takes me to the Sty. So for Christmas this year I took him to the Everton game at Villa Park, and for my Birthday he took me to Blues - Millwall (great choice, almost got into some trouble).
Anyways, he calls me today to inform me that he has been left with a spare ticket for the play-off second leg against Blackpool this wednesday, and wants to take me along.
Do I take this ticket? I have untill I have tonight to decide. On one hand, I might get the chance to be amongst 30,000 depressed 'Noses, but on the other I might have to bear the agony of them winning.
What do I do?
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Tell him you'd rather have your eyes gouged out that watch that shower of shit.
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Tell him you'd rather stick hot pins in your eyes than go there.
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Have the ticket but don't turn up, then we can laugh at how they couldn't fill their ground.
Or tell him you'd rather catch cat AIDS.
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Gauge your eyes out with hot pins then say there's no point as you won't be able to see anything.
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So, as of today per an unexpected phone call, I've been faced with a tough decision.
My closest friend is a Blue Nose, and we have gradually developed a tradition where for Birthdays/Christmas etc. We take the other one to a game, so I take him down the Villa a couple of times a year and he takes me to the Sty. So for Christmas this year I took him to the Everton game at Villa Park, and for my Birthday he took me to Blues - Millwall (great choice, almost got into some trouble).
Anyways, he calls me today to inform me that he has been left with a spare ticket for the play-off second leg against Blackpool this wednesday, and wants to take me along.
Do I take this ticket? I have untill I have tonight to decide. On one hand, I might get the chance to be amongst 30,000 depressed 'Noses, but on the other I might have to bear the agony of them winning.
What do I do?
30,000?, i think not , but go anyway just to remember however bad it gets , it is not this ;)
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It sounds like you've already fulfilled your one game commitment, so I'd say let him offer the ticket to a genuine nose.
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Go, just to remind yourself how lucky you are.
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Dont go and also break off the friendship.
They say no man is an island but if I had to have noses for friends I would rather be a billy no mates loner and a hermit.
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What have you done to him to deserve this horror?
I reckon he's found out you've been shagging his girlfriend behind his back.
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Go, wear as much orange coloured gear as you can but don't do what you did at the Ipswich match.
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It seems the general consensus is suicide.
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Go, carrying a large crucifix over one shoulder and wearing a crown of thorns
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Go. Pretend your David Attenborough doing a documentary on an off shoot of the human species. Don't be surprised if you become fascinated by the subject matter.
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Or attacked by the subject matter.
For the Blues - Millwall game I was dared to wear claret and blue, to appear as both a Villain and a West Ham fan. I would not have survived the night.
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Can we please have restrictions on use of the word "conundrum" in thread titles.
I was hoping for something a bit more exciting than this
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Or attacked by the subject matter.
Just like Attenborough getting too close to Gorillas.
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Take the ticket. It's football, just go and have a good experience. U could see a 6-5 corker
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Go and enjoy the game - it should be a good one.
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Surely a wind up?
Sitting amongst the animals who glory in attacking anything, I mean anything, associated with Aston Villa is beyond my realms.
Tell him to use his extra finger to find someone else.
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Surely a wind up?
Sitting amongst the animals who glory in attacking anything, I mean anything, associated with Aston Villa is beyond my realms.
Tell him to use his extra finger to find someone else.
Definitely not a wind up, I've gone plenty of times with him in the past. It's just the fact that this is such a big game, I don't think I could hold in my emotions.
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Surely a wind up?
Sitting amongst the animals who glory in attacking anything, I mean anything, associated with Aston Villa is beyond my realms.
Tell him to use his extra finger to find someone else.
Definitely not a wind up, I've gone plenty of times with him in the past. It's just the fact that this is such a big game, I don't think I could hold in my emotions.
My emotions would be the least of your worries if they lose.
Horrible people where football is concerned.
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go to match , and might see next villa manager
ian holloway or chris houghton
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Tell him you're washing your hair.
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
I was going to write something, but this sums my feelings on the matter completely.
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You are an adult. Think about what an adult would do.
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
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Let's have a go at Spurs and see how we feel!UTV!! :)
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Banter is a rhetoric and a vitriolic manner that remains verbal.
Going to St Andrews has never been such an experience. Enlighten me to a differing experience as you are a man of a few years and will undoubtedly have witnessed the politeness of the knuckle dragging animals that club spawns?
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So, as of today per an unexpected phone call, I've been faced with a tough decision.
My closest friend is a Blue Nose, and we have gradually developed a tradition where for Birthdays/Christmas etc. We take the other one to a game, so I take him down the Villa a couple of times a year and he takes me to the Sty. So for Christmas this year I took him to the Everton game at Villa Park, and for my Birthday he took me to Blues - Millwall (great choice, almost got into some trouble).
Anyways, he calls me today to inform me that he has been left with a spare ticket for the play-off second leg against Blackpool this wednesday, and wants to take me along.
Do I take this ticket? I have untill I have tonight to decide. On one hand, I might get the chance to be amongst 30,000 depressed 'Noses, but on the other I might have to bear the agony of them winning.
What do I do?
Do not take the ticket mate. Don't lower yourself to their level.StuJ has already posted how those dirty twats pick on kids and their parents. Fuck the shite into oblivion!!
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Banter is a rhetoric and a vitriolic manner that remains verbal.
Going to St Andrews has never been such an experience. Enlighten me to a differing experience as you are a man of a few years and will undoubtedly have witnessed the politeness of the knuckle dragging animals that club spawns?
I've known, and know, a good few Blues supporters, none of whom would dream of attacking anyone - much like the vast majority of football supporters. I appreciate that they have a higher than normal percentage of antisocial elements among their support but to say they are all the same is to draw the same conclusions as non-football people used to think about us all. If one of your family was taken seriously ill and a Blues-supporting doctor was on hand, what would your reaction be - that they were going to be attacked, or that their life would be saved?
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Would you seriously take your kids to a Nose game?? Fuckin arseholes when you get outside the ground,it's like going back 20 fuckin years going to that shite hole. Get fuckin real!
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Banter is a rhetoric and a vitriolic manner that remains verbal.
Going to St Andrews has never been such an experience. Enlighten me to a differing experience as you are a man of a few years and will undoubtedly have witnessed the politeness of the knuckle dragging animals that club spawns?
I've known, and know, a good few Blues supporters, none of whom would dream of attacking anyone - much like the vast majority of football supporters. I appreciate that they have a higher than normal percentage of antisocial elements among their support but to say they are all the same is to draw the same conclusions as non-football people used to think about us all. If one of your family was taken seriously ill and a Blues-supporting doctor was on hand, what would your reaction be - that they were going to be attacked, or that their life would be saved?
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In my view .....There is no bloody conundrum!!!! Fucking conundrum-sorry,just do not get it.
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One of my most trusted colleagues is a nose, and in 5 years has taken a lot of banter from me, and never given back a bean, but for a wry smile the day we got eck and I said it can't be that bad can it.
She has done more for me work wise than anyone, ever to help, and been a great friend. If you want to go to support your mate just go. The vast majority are normal folk.
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Saying that you could not go to St. Andrews to watch a match with a Blues supporting mate tells me all I need to know really. Why not? I know the answer but for the audience, why not?
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Saying that you could not go to St. Andrews to watch a match with a Blues supporting mate tells me all I need to know really. Why not? I know the answer but for the audience, why not?
No sodding comment !
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Saying that you could not go to St. Andrews to watch a match with a Blues supporting mate tells me all I need to know really. Why not? I know the answer but for the audience, why not?
No sodding comment !
No, come on, could you do it? If not, why not?
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Surely a wind up?
Sitting amongst the animals who glory in attacking anything, I mean anything, associated with Aston Villa is beyond my realms.
Tell him to use his extra finger to find someone else.
Definitely not a wind up, I've gone plenty of times with him in the past. It's just the fact that this is such a big game, I don't think I could hold in my emotions.
Why not?
It's not like they're playing against Villa.
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Go. Keep your head down and chuckle to yourself as The Tangerines take the unwashed apart. In the closing minutes, enjoy the sheer misery that surrounds you.
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Villabobby: I think you're over-egging it a bit. I can think of a couple of times when even the Villa and b-lose thugs have had a nice peaceful time together, never mind the normal people.
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I was once in the same position as you are Chipsticks. I had a very good friend. The best. Sadly now deceased. We used to own and run dogs all over the midlands that's how close we were. He was as staunch a nose as I am a Villa fan and I agreed to go to a match at the Sty with him. Half way through the game my friend casually remarked that I was a Villa fan and without further ado one of them reached across two rows of seats and punched me twice in the face. I spent three hours at A and E having twenty four stitches put in my face. I was 50 years old.
That there are decent men and women who support Birmingham City is a given but only a fool would be blind to the fully justified reputation a very large proportion of them have for being mindless violent thugs. Go if you must but DO NOT under any circumstances be deluded into thinking they are all nice guys like your mate. They are not.
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go to match , and might see next villa manager
ian holloway or chris houghton
Chris HUGHTON.
EDIT: I just saw that I was mentioned above. I've got quite a few friends who are Blues fans - my best friend at uni is one - the experience I had the other day just means that some of them are twats, not all. If my mate offered me a ticket, I'd go to the temple of doom with him.
If they won, fair enough. If they lost I'd be taking the piss. Either way, we'd be getting pissed up in town afterwards.
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A lot of my mates are noses and we all happily have a beer and socialise a few times a week, we don't however even watch each others games on the TV together, just an unspoken rule that its best for all concerned. We'll all happily return from matches and have a beer but never during the games.
Some things just don't mix however hard you might want them to.
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you would look out of place chip! you would need a 1987 shell shuit and big sovs on with that shit badge on a plug chain round your neck!
found out in 5 minutes son!
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For anyone who's still interested, I rang him this morning and told him I'm not gonna go, but I owe him a pint.
I'd like to clarify one thing on this whole debate though. My loyalty doesn't end at Villa. While they are the only team I ever have or will support, and I will do so until the ends of the Earth, I love football. And one of the pleasures in life for me is going to a non-Villa game, whether it be Redditch United or indeed Blues, and not having to worry about whether the Villa win. So as I've said, I've been to a few Blues games before, and had a decent time. Aslong as they're not playing the Villa, I generally don't care how they do.
This game is different though. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it by any means, as I am far too emotionally invested in wanting Blues to get turned over, and should they reach the play-off final; I will be very pissed off. It's probably worth adding that with this in mind, there's a chance it might be genuinely unsafe for me to be there when that final whistle goes.
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The only time I've nearly had any trouble watching Small Heath on TV was in the Catholic Club on Chelmsley when I watched the hilarious play-off defeat at Preston. The one when Francis threatened to take them off the pitch because they were taking the penalties at the wrong end. I'd challenge any Villa fan not to laugh at that. I couldn't keep it in and it was getting proppa nawty towards me. As I was with my bird I left, but had I been alone it would have worth a kicking to see those pens.
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Saying that you could not go to St. Andrews to watch a match with a Blues supporting mate tells me all I need to know really. Why not? I know the answer but for the audience, why not?
No sodding comment !
No, come on, could you do it? If not, why not?
I could not do it, even for any best mate. It goes against everything that is Villa! I have been to many other games when i have'nt gone to the Villa, Kiddy Harriers, Hednesford town and the odd game at Redditch United but i would not and could not go to that shitehole and watch a "game of football" no way. If there was no other club to watch i would rather watch Dancing on f..king ice! The place is a blot on the landscape and full of interbred arseholes who can barely string two sentences together without the word UGG being used! F..king cavemen the lot of them. Just my point of view.
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I wouldn't go, purely because I wouldn't be able to conceal my mirth when Super Kev completes his hat-trick.
Out of interest, is your mate likely to be the sort who "thinks it's a bit of a laugh" to mention to everyone you're a Villa fan? If so, I wouldn't go. If you reckon you can trust yourself not to cheer or do anything daft then you should go. It's a free ticket to a vital play-off game. Should be interesting.
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full of interbred arseholes who can barely string two sentences together without the word UGG being used! F..king cavemen the lot of them.
How often I've thought that, when I've been stood with Villa fans at away grounds.
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You've made the right decision mate. Like you suggested, a normal league game might have been bearable, but if they're singing 'Wembley' at the end, you'd just want to be anywhere else but there.
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For anyone who's still interested, I rang him this morning and told him I'm not gonna go, but I owe him a pint.
I'd like to clarify one thing on this whole debate though. My loyalty doesn't end at Villa. While they are the only team I ever have or will support, and I will do so until the ends of the Earth, I love football. And one of the pleasures in life for me is going to a non-Villa game, whether it be Redditch United or indeed Blues, and not having to worry about whether the Villa win. So as I've said, I've been to a few Blues games before, and had a decent time. Aslong as they're not playing the Villa, I generally don't care how they do.
This game is different though. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it by any means, as I am far too emotionally invested in wanting Blues to get turned over, and should they reach the play-off final; I will be very pissed off. It's probably worth adding that with this in mind, there's a chance it might be genuinely unsafe for me to be there when that final whistle goes.
Sorry I didn't read your response before posting. You can always make it up to him by going to a more low-key game next year.
Hopefully, in the Championship!
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Chipsticks, on reflection, I think you've made the right decision. Laughing your bollocks off when Holloway starts dancing round the Sty's pitch in his big coat would probably land you in spot of bother.
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I wouldn't go, purely because I wouldn't be able to conceal my mirth when Super Kev completes his hat-trick.
Out of interest, is your mate likely to be the sort who "thinks it's a bit of a laugh" to mention to everyone you're a Villa fan? If so, I wouldn't go. If you reckon you can trust yourself not to cheer or do anything daft then you should go. It's a free ticket to a vital play-off game. Should be interesting.
haha, for the record, he is EXACTLY the type to do so. I took him to the Villa once shortly after the glorious 5-1 and in the concourse he said "I can't believe you beat us 5-1" and got a few funny looks.
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Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
I have mates who are Blues fans too, they are normal hard working people on none match days. They can turn into right Berks when they go to that place. There is a culture amongst them that seems to promote excessive testosterone.
As for the doctor being a blue nose, now that is just plain ridiculous Dave! :-)
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Go and have a good night out with your mate no matter what.
It's only football, surely your friendship is deeper than the puerile bollocks most of the posters on here seem to think it is?
Honestly, could none of you really put petty prejudices away and go and watch a match at Blues with a good mate?
Once again a pious self righteous response to being a football fan. Without rivalry and banter football in Birmingham is dead.
If that offends you, then I am happy to see you offended.
Go and ask the knuckle daggers to hold your hand at the next derby and let us know how you get on.
On the one hand banter is fine, but on the other all Blues supporters are knuckle-dragging animals who will attack every Villa supporter at will and disagreeing with you is 'pious.' Something doesn't quite comprehend there.
Banter is a rhetoric and a vitriolic manner that remains verbal.
Going to St Andrews has never been such an experience. Enlighten me to a differing experience as you are a man of a few years and will undoubtedly have witnessed the politeness of the knuckle dragging animals that club spawns?
I've known, and know, a good few Blues supporters, none of whom would dream of attacking anyone - much like the vast majority of football supporters. I appreciate that they have a higher than normal percentage of antisocial elements among their support but to say they are all the same is to draw the same conclusions as non-football people used to think about us all. If one of your family was taken seriously ill and a Blues-supporting doctor was on hand, what would your reaction be - that they were going to be attacked, or that their life would be saved?
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I have mates who are noses and in the main they are sane hardworking men during the week. When the weekend comes they become overwhelmed by testosterone and behave like Berks.
There is something about blues fans that promotes such behaviour.
As for the doctor being a nose, now that's taking it too far Dave! :-)
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Think I've been to the sty about 4 times without watching Villa. The most recent being when I was 14 in 95, a mate had a soft spot for York City, so we went in the away end. Also before that my Bluenose Grandad (Step dad of step dad, so far from blood relation) took me to a couple of Kids for a quid game one being Tranmere, can't remember the other and went to a fireworks display there as well.
Got a few Milwall mates and was going to go to their game this season, but all the restrictions they had it just would have been a lot of hassle to meet up with them, it wouldn't have been easy to leave their escort after the game either, so probably best i missed it.
I go to a fair few matches with mates who support other teams, but I don't think nowadays I could go to the Sty unless it was in the away end. Probably doesn't say much about me but I can feel the hatred building up in me as i hear kro and it would just not be an experience I would enjoy, it would probably start to feel better if they were getting hammered though.
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Being a Brummie ive got the odd Small Heath mate. Go down the game with them? Get feckin real.
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Set foot in the sty while the Villa are not playing? Never! If you were outed as Villa fan I seriously believe your personal safety would be at risk. A kicking is the least you should expect! I remember coming back from a pre season friendly at the sty on the 104 bus back to Erdington when 3 of their knuckledragging scum decided to kick off with me, my brother and my mate. There was no warning, just a knobhead standing in the isle shouting "come on Villa lets have it!" followed by their battle cry of Lulu! There was no provocation for this attack whatsoever. We were all sitting in separate seats as the bus was full, and there was no chanting or anything! Vile disgusting creatures! Enter the sty at your own peril!
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People talk about our obsession with them and theirs with us. But if they suddenly disappeared, we'd carry on pretty much as normal. If we didn't exist, however, neither would they.
Aston Villa is a huge part of being a Blues supporter. Unwittingly, our very existence has shaped their collective psyche. Our superiority has created a bitterness, jealousy, nastiness and hatred which frequently manifests itself when they encounter Villa fans. Lots of Villa fans have stories about attacks and extreme provocation. It overshadows all the decent fans they have (yes, they do have some) and makes Birmingham City quite an ugly club for all outsiders to behold.
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Anyone here old enough to have gone to Villa one week and to Blues the other?
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Yep, me when I was in my teens around 1982/3. Bloody horrible place the sty (not intimidating, just a dump.)
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Only ever been to St Andrews when the Villa have played there and will never ever go for any other reason. This despite all my lifelong and closest mates being noses. I have drank with them before and after in, shall we say, some 'lively' places but we would never dream of watching the game together.
By the way, I can watch Blues on tv against other teams with the lads and although I enjoy it when they lose it doesn't really make my day (or season) whereas they really do genuinely get as much pleasure from our misfortunes as from their (very) few moments of glory.
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I dont think I could enter the sty, unless it was through the away turnstile, whether villa were the visitors or not. I just wouldnt feel comfortable sitting in a stand hearing sotv and all of the rest of there shit for 90 mins. Mind you I dont think the situation would arise with me though....i dont have any Blues mates.
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Loveley ground, always full of discerning, knowledgable, tolerant fans who love nothing more than to discuss pressing social issues with their beloved neighbours from across the city. (Heh Heh!!). ;D
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Anyone here old enough to have gone to Villa one week and to Blues the other?
Er, no.
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Anyone here old enough to have gone to Villa one week and to Blues the other?
Yes, for several years in the '60's with my best mate.
People were a bit more civilised in those days judging from some of the more extreme comments on this thread.
The rise and rise of macho man eh?
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I saw a few games there in 1968/9. They had a strong attacking side with a weak defence.
I was there when Geoff Vowden came on as a sub against Huddersfield and scored a hat-trick, the first player to do so. In another game Blues beat Fulham 5-4, Jimmy Greenhoff, a fine player, scored four and missed a penalty. Fulham were so desperate for goals that they put a full-back up front and it worked. His name? Malcolm Ma cDonald.
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Think you made the right decision Chipsticks. There not all knuckle draggers like some have said, but there is a large portion of them and there will be especially for a game as big as this. No room for error on your part
However a good atmosphere and a good game sounds tempting if you can keep your emotions hidden well and pretened to be happy for them
As has been mentioned, a low key game maybe better, plus taking up a genuine nose ticket wouldn't be too fair. Wouldn't like to miss out on a big game for Villa so a nose could go
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I'd go, I love watching live football and I'm sure the scum will lose.
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You've done exactly the right thing. Now, you know when he's out of the house so why not pop round and make aquaintance with his good lady.
Ding dong.
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Did you go ?
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You are an adult. Think about what an adult would do.
Take advantage of the fact the mate is at the football by nipping round and back scuttling his missus???
disgraceful