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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Desi on April 25, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
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I was surprised to read that McLeish spoke with Lerner and Faulkner after the defeat.
There was no shot of him in the Directors Box on the TV coverage and those at the match didn't know that he was there.
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He's probably had camouflage lessons from the General.
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He was sat in one of the offices, reading his favorite letter from Sir Alex, no one told him there was a soccer game on, apparently Faulkner forgot and Ginger twat, thought it was a behind doors friendly.
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He was in the tunnel with Faulkner apparently after the game reassuring Mcleish that he is doing a fantastic job.I'm not sure how long they can keep the fact that we can actually be relegated from Randy.I'm not actually sure he realises we can
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He was in the tunnel with Faulkner apparently after the game reassuring Mcleish that he is doing a fantastic job.I'm not sure how long they can keep the fact that we can actually be relegated from Randy.I'm not actually sure he realises we can
I'm sure they think it is the MLS with no such thing as relegation and we get an early pick of the new draft by finishing so lowly.
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At the risk of upsetting site rules, the 3 of them are cretins of the highest order.
A conversation between them must be like a scene from the Teletubbies.
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He was probably watching the Barca / Chelsea game and keeping an eye on the other scores.
Then went to console the Manager for the 1st half display and talked about what a bright future we have after THAT first half 'keep it up Alex, we sure should have won that game bud, I heard we hit the bar too, prepare the lads for Saturday like y'always do and we'll be fine, just fine'.
Semper Fidelis.
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Randy, at a game? LOLOlollllolollooololLLLLzzzer
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Randy Lerner at a Villa game.Never heard so much shite in my life!!!!Does he even know what is going on at the club?I doubt it!!Faulkener is obviously filling him full of shit.......via video conference!!
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Hiding was he? Didn't take his seat in the Trinity, big brave man, at least CEOs of public companies get to face the wrath of shareholders once a year, not this cretin.
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WISH HE WOULD TAKE HIS SEAT ON A BIG PLANE AND FUCK RITE OFF!!
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At the risk of upsetting site rules, the 3 of them are cretins of the highest order.
A conversation between them must be like a scene from the Teletubbies.
If they sold tickets to that conversation, I would pay handsomely.
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I need a shit , will someone please bring me that Fergie letter about McLeish to me.
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Hiding was he? Didn't take his seat in the Trinity, big brave man, at least CEOs of public companies get to face the wrath of shareholders once a year, not this cretin.
Of all the things that Doug was, he was always there through thick and thin. He attended the yearly meetings and reacted to the criticism, he came to games even when tensions were running high and protests planned.
I know Lerner can do what the hell he wants with his club, but it does not paint a great picture of the man when at the first sign of trouble he's off like a shot and leaving Smithers to take all the flak.
Shame on you Lerner for being so cowardly.
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ELLIS IN!!
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ELLIS IN!!
ELLIS IN!!
bet you have waited since 1968 to have written that!
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
He's done a helluva lot more bad, unless you think that free scarves are the be all and end all.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
He has done some good, that's a fair point. The training ground, which he totally revamped, is an example of him doing some good work.
The problem is that, on the front that matters more than anything, ie what is on the pitch, he's managed to show some truly awful management, and that is ultimately what he will be judged on.
It's hard not to look at what we see on the pitch now, and our financial situation, and not conclude that we're pretty much exactly where we were when Lerner arrived, except in far more debt than we were at that time.
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It shows all the good he has done , he makes one bad decision and does not listen to the fans and this happens.
I loved Randy , but now he is starting to piss me off.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Great new training ground and............................?
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
I'm not anti-Lerner and I agree that he has done a lot of good, but he has to show a bit of backbone here and at least make his presence known at the club instead of letting Faulkner run the show.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
He's done a helluva lot more bad, unless you think that free scarves are the be all and end all.
Come off it.It hasn't been that long ago he's handed over a record fee for Bent, seen villa Park nigh on full nearly every home game and we were actually looking to challenge for honours.He got it wrong with Houllier and went completely barmy giving McLeish the job but he has pumped a lot of cash into the club and given us the best seasons we've seen since Little's reign, best part of 15yrs ago.
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Apart from invested more than any other Villa oner.The highest spending club 4 years ago, including Ure Chelsk and Lplop, and he has done more harm than good?........some people need to get a grip.
McL was always a controversial appointment, and it has failed.If he cares then McL will be gone in the summer, if he has had enough, then McL will be here i think.
RL deserves a bit more respect/loyalty.
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He has loaned that money into the club. Randy Lerner is a creditor
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Jesus wept
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Apart from invested more than any other Villa oner.The highest spending club 4 years ago, including Ure Chelsk and Lplop, and he has done more harm than good?........some people need to get a grip.
It's not quite that simple, though, because it turns out that that spending was seriously risking the financial future of the club.
It's hard to draw up a balance sheet of what he's done, and then look at the league and the direction we're heading, and not conclude that the things he got wrong, he got very wrong indeed.
Even after a poor season last year, if you'd been told 12 months ago that in a year we'd be in the situation we are in now, you would've struggled to convince people.
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The thing is Lerner DID do a lot of good for the club. Unfortunately his running of the club over the last couple of years has been so negligent that the previous good is being obliterated by all the bad.
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He owns the club though.He will only get his money back if he sells the club at a profit.
Abramovich has loaned the money to Chelsk as well, as has the MCiteeh bloke.It is alove affair, whereas the owners of Lplop and Ure is all about business.
The only way Randy will get ALL his money back, is if he sells the club for a profit.Now if that was his motivation for all the investment, then good luck to him, but for me it was a bit more than that.
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I wonder if RL will ask for any assistance;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47036391@N00/4695304279/in/photostream/
Nick
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In addition to that pic, check out some of the others - some excellent old pictures of the stadium/ players in there (they aren't mine btw)
Nick
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At the risk of upsetting site rules, the 3 of them are cretins of the highest order.
A conversation between them must be like a scene from the Teletubbies.
That's an insult to the Teletubbies!
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
He has done some good, that's a fair point. The training ground, which he totally revamped, is an example of him doing some good work.
The problem is that, on the front that matters more than anything, ie what is on the pitch, he's managed to show some truly awful management, and that is ultimately what he will be judged on.
It's hard not to look at what we see on the pitch now, and our financial situation, and not conclude that we're pretty much exactly where we were when Lerner arrived, except in far more debt than we were at that time.
Agree very much again with you Paulie. Always on the money
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How much per year has Randy took out of the club?
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Bang on. How much is the debt roughly now?
He has done some good, that's a fair point. The training ground, which he totally revamped, is an example of him doing some good work.
The problem is that, on the front that matters more than anything, ie what is on the pitch, he's managed to show some truly awful management, and that is ultimately what he will be judged on.
It's hard not to look at what we see on the pitch now, and our financial situation, and not conclude that we're pretty much exactly where we were when Lerner arrived, except in far more debt than we were at that time.
Agree very much again with you Paulie. Always on the money
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As he's so skint know I bet he feels a bit of a prick looking back at his old newspaper clippings..........
http://bbc.in/h1cWR9
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As he's so skint know I bet he feels a bit of a prick looking back at his old newspaper clippings..........
http://bbc.in/h1cWR9
He could have used that money to sack the manager.
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As he's so skint know I bet he feels a bit of a prick looking back at his old newspaper clippings..........
http://bbc.in/h1cWR9
He could have used that money to sack the manager.
Or to hire Mick McCarthy...
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The National Portrait f..kin Gallery.Obviously very close to his heart!!C..t!
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
Now that is properly ON THE MONEY!Couldn't agree more.
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'Hounding out the owner' when there's noone else to buy the club doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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McUseless still being manager doesn't make much sense!Where has all the "sense" gone?
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I agree on that, he has to go. But the owner is going nowhere, so we have to rely on him to come to his senses. I shalln't be holding my breath.
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I (for one, there may be others) would like a refund...
(Americans understand a legal compensation culture)
I was (mis) Sold : " Proud History - Bright Future..."
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Maybe Randy could sue McLeech on the basis of 'false advertising', after all, he claimed to be a football manager didn't he?
I wonder if us fans could sue him under the human rights act? I mean, torture is a breech of human rights isn't it?
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I agree on that, he has to go. But the owner is going nowhere, so we have to rely on him to come to his senses. I shalln't be holding my breath.
Will he come to his senses should we be relegated?Or will he come to his senses near christmas next season when we are doing as badly or worse in the prem with ever decreasing attendances and the same feeling of doom hanging over the club?
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McUseless still being manager doesn't make much sense!Where has all the "sense" gone?
I heard Mazrim is saving it up and is going over to Cleveland to slap some into Randy. Which is a nice thought right now.
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'Hounding out the owner' when there's noone else to buy the club doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Yeah,your probably right,lets just say nothing eh ? Wouldnt want to upset anybody
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It's not about upsetting anyone, if there's noone to buy the club what's the point in trying to hound out the owner? The manager I understand, but not the owner.
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It's not about upsetting anyone, if there's noone to buy the club what's the point in trying to hound out the owner? The manager I understand, but not the owner.
The poxy chairman bought the moron in did he not ?
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It's not about upsetting anyone, if there's noone to buy the club what's the point in trying to hound out the owner? The manager I understand, but not the owner.
The poxy chairman bought the moron in did he not ?
Yes, but as I said you can't hound out the owner if there is noone to buy the club.
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'Hounding out the owner' when there's noone else to buy the club doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Yeah,your probably right,lets just say nothing eh ? Wouldnt want to upset anybody
Totally missing the point.
How are you going to "force" someone to buy the club from Randy? Think about it.
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'Hounding out the owner' when there's noone else to buy the club doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Yeah,your probably right,lets just say nothing eh ? Wouldnt want to upset anybody
Totally missing the point.
How are you going to "force" someone to buy the club from Randy? Think about it.
Glad someone else sees it.
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We have an owner who would sell the club if he got the right offer and would refuse to if he didn't. Any pressure on him to sell is pointless. Pressure to make decisive and positive decisions on key employees would be far more productive.
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I wonder if Doug had a word in his ear last night.Thats if he is any good at hide and seek.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Great new training ground and............................?
Was the training ground his work? I'd have thought with the architects/planning/design issues it must have one of the projects carried over the old regime.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Great new training ground and............................?
Was the training ground his work? I'd have thought with the architects/planning/design issues it must have one of the projects carried over the old regime.
Ripped it up and redesigned it, made it better.
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
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Look good old Bill Kenwright would sell Everton tomorrow if he could find a big investor, who he could trust. Everton (and latterly Newcastle) show what you can do by spending wisely, at the right times, and by employing a good manager. Our problem is Lerner has set the bar now to comfortable mid-table, so underachieving from that level inevitably pushes us into relegation trouble. And there's McLeish. I thought he might be a safe pair of hands. He's proved to be uninspiring, cautious and I have to say unlucky too. He just now looks a beaten man with a beaten team. There is no business model which will stand for the level of performances at home last year under Houllier and again this year. Randy could spend all his time in the States for all I care, it's what he's left in Birmingham which matters. Fantastic customer service; faulty product.
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'Hounding out the owner' when there's noone else to buy the club doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Yeah,your probably right,lets just say nothing eh ? Wouldnt want to upset anybody
Totally missing the point.
How are you going to "force" someone to buy the club from Randy? Think about it.
Glad someone else sees it.
I think you've missed the point. The owner NEEDS hounding, because unless he sells, he can't just walk away.
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Unfortunately there are very few individuals about in this world with the money to buy and fund a premiership club. Of those few, some will have come about the money using rather questionable methods. Therefore trying to find someone with the right credentials is like looking for a needle in a haystack.Randy is stuck with us and we are stuck with him!
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
Well thanks for the input,no reasons why you disagree but you just do
I get the impression you'd start an arguement in an empty room ?
No problem with you disagreeing though,just buy your season ticket and replica shirt next season (with coca-cola championship) patches on the sleeve,applaud politely and go home after being turned over by Millwall,Barnsley or Crystal Palce without a murmour
Me,on the other hand will shout,scream, do anything possible to rid the club of Lerner,Mcleish and the rest of the fools
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
Well thanks for the input,no reasons why you disagree but you just do
I get the impression you'd start an arguement in an empty room ?
No problem with you disagreeing though,just buy your season ticket and replica shirt next season (with coca-cola championship) patches on the sleeve,applaud politely and go home after being turned over by Millwall,Barnsley or Crystal Palce without a murmour
Me,on the other hand will shout,scream, do anything possible to rid the club of Lerner,Mcleish and the rest of the fools
disagree with that as well
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At the risk of upsetting site rules, the 3 of them are cretins of the highest order.
A conversation between them must be like a scene from the Teletubbies.
Fletch, with all due respect for your humour, please stop using 'cretin' as a form of abuse towards our undoubtedly shite leaders, I have a cousin with cretinism and I love the bloke.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm not comfortable with this anti Lerner stuff.Admittedly his two managerial appointments have been well, cack, but he has done a helluva lot of good for the club.
Great new training ground and............................?
I have heard Ellis take credit for te training ground as he had put all of the pieces in place. Yes t was paid for when Lerner arrived, but I believe it was one of the reasons te club was sold so cheaply.
As for the investment from Lerner, how much exactly is it because our debts are astronomical since e arrived which suggests the investment came from other sources.
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
Well thanks for the input,no reasons why you disagree but you just do
I get the impression you'd start an arguement in an empty room ?
No problem with you disagreeing though,just buy your season ticket and replica shirt next season (with coca-cola championship) patches on the sleeve,applaud politely and go home after being turned over by Millwall,Barnsley or Crystal Palce without a murmour
Me,on the other hand will shout,scream, do anything possible to rid the club of Lerner,Mcleish and the rest of the fools
disagree with that as well
Great post, by both of you. Even though I disagree with them...
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But is Lerner that good a businessman, or was he fed the golden spoon from his old man Al?
According to Wikipedia, Lerner's net worth in 2010 was $20m, down from $1.5bn in 2008. It can't all be down to the credit crunch??
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
Well thanks for the input,no reasons why you disagree but you just do
I get the impression you'd start an arguement in an empty room ?
No problem with you disagreeing though,just buy your season ticket and replica shirt next season (with coca-cola championship) patches on the sleeve,applaud politely and go home after being turned over by Millwall,Barnsley or Crystal Palce without a murmour
Me,on the other hand will shout,scream, do anything possible to rid the club of Lerner,Mcleish and the rest of the fools
disagree with that as well
Great post, by both of you. Even though I disagree with them...
Sorry Fergal, can't agree with you there!
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At the risk of upsetting site rules, the 3 of them are cretins of the highest order.
A conversation between them must be like a scene from the Teletubbies.
If they sold tickets to that conversation, I would pay handsomely.
Don't give them ideas, they've got to scrape together Jean Makoun's wages somehow.
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But is Lerner that good a businessman, or was he fed the golden spoon from his old man Al?
According to Wikipedia, Lerner's net worth in 2010 was $20m, down from $1.5bn in 2008. It can't all be down to the credit crunch??
That can't be right, that's a huge amount to lose in two years even after a divorce! No way.
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FWIW Here's my opinion on Randy. I think he did come in meaning well and he certainly did pump plenty of resources into the club. Had he been here a couple of years earlier or had MON had just a little bit more imagination with his signings, I think we could have made it to the top 4 and maybe all would have been well. Remember we were looking competitive for fourth. Then unfortunately for him and for us, the rule book changed again and the ante was upped significantly by City and Randy is not rich enough to compete on a level playing field.
I believe he still means well, but now needs the club to be run in a sustainable manner. The trouble is this is very difficult to do, especially when you have leeches like Ireland, Heskey etc. gobbling up resources and putting in journeyman performances. He's certainly made mistakes and McLeish is for me the worst of them. I thought it was a sick joke when I heard we'd approached him.
I think we need several things now. In the absence of selling to some Sheikh; he needs to source some external investment. He probably needs to part sell the club to some external investors, who in combination with him can give us the kind of financial muscle we need. Between them they need to bring in someone to sit on the board with real football experience, who can make sure the overall strategy is sound. Then they need to go out and find a real up and coming manager. I'm all for supporting the manager and giving them time, but McLeish has never been in this bracket. FWIW. I don't think they've much choice but to support him now - to sack him would be a huge risk (KMac looked a out of his depth before Houllier came in so I'm not convinced this is a starter). Hopefully we stay up and get a chance to replace him over the summer.
I don't want Randy out yet, but I do believe the time has come to dilute his influence a bit at the club. Finding an investor to co-own with him, basically a billionaire of similar stature to himself could work. The DOF is vital for us now, as the ownership don't have the necessary knowledge (we cannot be relying on the owner approaching Ferguson for advice, as he quite clearly will not be inclined to take our best interests to heart). I'm sure GT or Houllier would be ideal for the job, as they're both beyond the stage where they could be seen as a threat to the manager. This change needs to happen this summer, as I fear we'll be left so far behind we'll never be able to get back to the top without it...
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Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I've just been out with a few fellow Villa fans and one of them said that he heard an interview on the radio earlier today with John Deehan. Obviously the subject of McLeish and his appointment came up. Deehan apparently said that a few managers had turned the job down before it was offered to McLeish because it was stipulated that the new manager could only employ one new member on the coaching staff. Deehan went on to say that he felt that was the main reason a number of managers turned it down and that he didn't think it was very healthy for the heirarchy to be interfering in such matters. Did anyone else hear the interview? I guess that would explain why Andy Watson did not come with him.
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ok,lets have this right shall we ?
Randy Lerner bought Aston Villa for a knockdown price,threw a bit of his cash at it in the hope of blinding people into thinking that it was the start of something dramatic and when his "5 year plan" went tits up,started to asset strip like crazy and try to recoup his outlay by getting the playing squad down which meant less money being paid out in wages
Darren Bent was bought with the Milner money,the Young and Downing money has gone where ?
So what if we have a state of the art training facility ?,i'm sure the journey men and kids who will be the playing squad WHEN we get relegated will be really appreciative of the depth of the team bath and extra soft physio tables when were dragging our arses around the likes of Barnsley,Millwall,and Brighton next season
Randy Lerner,Faulkner,The General have pillaged ASTON VILLA on the back of a new Holte pub,some free scarves,and hoped nobody would noticed,well a few of the more switched on Villa supporters knew what your game was from the start and now the descenting voices are more than just a few your hiding away like scared little school girls,they are a disgrace and need hounding out the club
disagree with most of that
Well thanks for the input,no reasons why you disagree but you just do
I get the impression you'd start an arguement in an empty room ?
No problem with you disagreeing though,just buy your season ticket and replica shirt next season (with coca-cola championship) patches on the sleeve,applaud politely and go home after being turned over by Millwall,Barnsley or Crystal Palce without a murmour
Me,on the other hand will shout,scream, do anything possible to rid the club of Lerner,Mcleish and the rest of the fools
disagree with that as well
Great post, by both of you. Even though I disagree with them...
Sorry Fergal, can't agree with you there!
I agree, they were shit posts apart from mine.
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But did anyone see Randy?
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Can't really compare him to abramovich as Lerner wants his money back. If he didn't, why is their repayment dates, and why have we already started paying him back? If he does want it all back then it will take us longer than Greece to pay back our debts. Probably makes us unsellable as well
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But is Lerner that good a businessman, or was he fed the golden spoon from his old man Al?
According to Wikipedia, Lerner's net worth in 2010 was $20m, down from $1.5bn in 2008. It can't all be down to the credit crunch??
That can't be right, that's a huge amount to lose in two years even after a divorce! No way.
It's not right, never take anything on Wikipedia for granted!
He's worth about £800million according to Forbes.
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But is Lerner that good a businessman, or was he fed the golden spoon from his old man Al?
According to Wikipedia, Lerner's net worth in 2010 was $20m, down from $1.5bn in 2008. It can't all be down to the credit crunch??
That can't be right, that's a huge amount to lose in two years even after a divorce! No way.
It's not right, never take anything on Wikipedia for granted!
He's worth about £800million according to Forbes.
It would virtually impossible to lose that sort of money in that space of time, absolute nonsense.
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It would be like a modern day Brewsters millions.
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Yeah, he was having a Tatoo removed from his leg, apparently!