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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Gaztonniller on April 21, 2012, 03:03:09 PM

Title: The difference
Post by: Gaztonniller on April 21, 2012, 03:03:09 PM
So far its 14 draws this season; and had those draws been converted into Wins or even loses, things this season could have been very, very much different in the current league position.
So what IYO has been the factor that has stopped turning those fourteen draws into wins or even worse!! losses. 
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: villa for life on April 21, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
the fact that the opposition scored the same amount of goals as us in each of those 14 games has been one of the primary reasons for getting so many draws.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Fergal on April 21, 2012, 05:06:55 PM
This could turn into a beat the manager thread...
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Shrek on April 21, 2012, 05:47:43 PM
McLeish Out
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: olaftab on April 21, 2012, 06:43:14 PM
15 draws this season not 14. we will get 4 more and end up drawing  half of our games.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Bad English on April 21, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
It is quite disheartening when you think that, had we won those 15 drawn games, we would still only be third today.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: danlanza on April 21, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
This could turn into a beat the manager thread...
With a soggy Villa sock?
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: nigel on April 21, 2012, 09:55:55 PM
Would be interesting to see the table had it still been 2pts for a win, 1 for a draw.
Would we still be so concerned?
Just off to give it a go
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on April 21, 2012, 10:15:49 PM
If it were two points for a win, where would we be in the table?
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 21, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
If it were two points for a win, where would we be in the table?

Yawn
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Rigadon on April 21, 2012, 10:17:40 PM
We haven't looked like winning many of those games.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: willywombat on April 22, 2012, 07:36:00 AM
It is quite disheartening when you think that, had we won those 15 drawn games, we would still only be third today.

That settles it, I'm off to open my veins in a warm bath
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: mattjpa on April 22, 2012, 08:20:50 AM
The mindset that a draw is acceptable
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Shoody on April 22, 2012, 08:45:40 AM
The mindset that a draw is as good as a win
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Gaztonniller on April 22, 2012, 10:12:53 AM
15 draws this season not 14. we will get 4 more and end up drawing  half of our games.

It thats the case then dont that stat suggest that right at this moment, this club is on a very fine pivot between been a very decent prem outfit, or being regarded as one of the prems also rans this season and next?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Monty on April 22, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Well, I've said it before: if you draw all your games you get 38 points, if you win half and lose half you get 57 points. Risky attacking strategies which might result in more defeats are preferable and always will be while the rule is three points for a win.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: nigel on April 22, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
If it were two points for a win, where would we be in the table?
Just worked it out.
How sad is that?  :-[

We would be exactly where we are now.
The table doesn't change that much either. Everton would be the biggest loser by dropping 3 places with the 3 below going up 1 place. Wigan and QPR would change places and that's it.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Irish villain on April 23, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
Well, I've said it before: if you draw all your games you get 38 points, if you win half and lose half you get 57 points. Risky attacking strategies which might result in more defeats are preferable and always will be while the rule is three points for a win.

Was the Scottish league slower to move to the three points for a win system?
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: DeKuip on April 23, 2012, 09:50:30 AM
You'd think in these days of equality, fair play, respect to match officials and having to treat away fans like fellow human beings, you'd get more points for a draw than for being so nasty as to try and beat your opponents (sorry, maybe opponents is too strong a word to use for the other team nowadays).
Three points for a draw, one for trying hard but losing and nothing for being a spoil sport.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Gaztonniller on April 23, 2012, 06:33:48 PM
It is quite disheartening when you think that, had we won those 15 drawn games, we would still only be third today.

i do see yr point, but third place at this stageof the season would mean CL football on the cards, and i dont think anyone could find reason to complain about that prospect.
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: ozzjim on April 23, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
The difference recently has been Bent missing - I reckon if available and the defence looking a bit more sound, plus a few more creative people in the side, he would have nicked us 4 more points than we have. On another site the stats of him in and not in the side are startling. Getting him fit and keeping him is vital!
Title: Re: The difference
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 23, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
The difference recently has been Bent missing - I reckon if available and the defence looking a bit more sound, plus a few more creative people in the side, he would have nicked us 4 more points than we have. On another site the stats of him in and not in the side are startling. Getting him fit and keeping him is vital!

Sad to say, but he'll be gone at the end of the season.
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