Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Risso on April 17, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
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The manager is obviously copping for a fair amount of stick in various threads, as is Randy Lerner. But what of our flame-haired Chief Executive? It seems from the outside that he is there to run the company on Lerner's behalf, so how culpable is he for this absolutely dismal season? In his interview earlier in the season, he said that Villa should still be targetting Europe, and so as CEO, he has presided over a season of failure, following on from last season when the rot set in.
In his defence, the last accounts show a small increase in commercial income of about £2m, but other than that, can anybody point to a reason other than being Lerner's friend that means he should keep his job after presiding over such a terrible period? He certainly doesn't seem very well qualified for such a high profile position.
(Apologies if there's an existing Paul Faulkner thread that I could have posted this in.)
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Seriously, I'd love to see his employment contract - the paragraph tilted 'Duties'.
If he has one.
Peter Kenyon he is not.
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Doesn't "flame haired" mean "ginger haired"? He's more blond isn't he?
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I think he is more responsible than Lerner, who for me is simply misguided in whom he places trust.
He did not control spending under MON, and has made the worst managerial appointment in our history, coupled with being CEO when we are likely to win the fewest number of games at VP in living memory. He and Eck are sharing about 70% of the blame for me, with O'Neill about 15% and Randy 15%.
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Isn't this the point where someone comes along and says "Paul Faulkner - when another McLeish thread just won't do"
Wink?
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Doesn't "flame haired" mean "ginger haired"? He's more blond isn't he?
I'd say a definite ginger:
Warning, brings back bad memories (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/06/17/alex-mcleish-arrives-at-aston-villa-s-bodymoor-heath-photos-97319-28897487/)
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Isn't this the point where someone comes along and says "Paul Faulkner - when another McLeish thread just won't do"
Wink?
I would have gone with:-
Paul Faulkner - when another Randy Lerner thread just won't do.
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Doesn't "flame haired" mean "ginger haired"? He's more blond isn't he?
I'd say a definite ginger:
Warning, brings back bad memories (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/06/17/alex-mcleish-arrives-at-aston-villa-s-bodymoor-heath-photos-97319-28897487/)
I'd actually say neither of them are ginger, to be honest.
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He did not control spending under MON
He wasn't CEO then though was he?
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the CEO is as much to blame as anyone, his head is on the block, if he get's away with this then it is a scandal. Many other CEO's in other businesses have seen their heads role for less.
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As a businessman he's done a decent job in growing the commercial sector. As a football man he ain't got a clue and he and clearly the club would benefit from someone like Steve Stride alongside. That's what they should have done and if we stay up, that should be action number two once McLeish is shown the door.
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My missus tells me that the correct term is "strawberry blonde"
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In my opinion, Bradley Branning is just Lerner's yes man dutifully performing his masters duties and goals. Do you really think Lerner would trust Faulkner to mount a manager hunt? Would any chairman worth his salt do that? I think it is Lerner who guides the grander policy of the club and Faulkner puts it in action. I think he is an easy target.
However, I agree that he may not be the right man for the CEO's job. He has done well in improving commercial revenue and marketing which seem to be the skills he has had within his career. I think where he is lacking is his football knowledge. Maybe if we had a more knowledgeable football person he'd be able to advise Randy on mistakes. Or maybe this is by design.
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In his interview earlier in the season, he said that Villa should still be targetting Europe, and so as CEO, he has presided over a season of failure, following on from last season when the rot set in.
We've failed to get anywhere near Europe, so if that was Faulkner's target, we've failed miserably.
The fact that he seems to have sat on his hands regarding McAnalwart makes me wonder if it was all bluster and perhaps his only task was to ensure our survival for this season.
Either way he's been found wanting, although I do acknowledge the free pie and tea etc.
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Lets get that bloke from Wolves in. Jez Moxey. I dont know the colour of his hair though.
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It's probably bullshit but that story about him "high five-ing" the players as they came into the dressing room after the draw at Klanfield is enough for me to have him sacked.
And the colour of his hair obviously.
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It's probably bullshit but that story about him "high five-ing" the players as they came into the dressing room after the draw at Klanfield is enough for me to have him sacked.
True or not, it still can't beat McBeefcurtains clenched fist salute to the directors box after the draw with Stoke.
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He's done an appalling job from a football perspective, but a decent job commercially. So maybe he should have a commercial role and no involvement in the football side. We need someone who understands the game.
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Isn't this the point where someone comes along and says "Paul Faulkner - when another McLeish thread just won't do"
Wink?
I would have gone with:-
Paul Faulkner - when another Randy Lerner thread just won't do.
Good shout, but perhaps I may suggest:-
Flame haired twat - when another ginger prick thread just won't do.
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Whether he has been a failure or not depends on exactly what his brief from his employer was, and that we don't know, do we? On the face of it, he has done a decent job commercially, but how well will that sit with our new kit makers, our sponsors etc if coupled with relegation?
He should be moved to a Commercial Director's role and a footballing man brought in as CEO to oversee the running of the whole shebang.
It won't, of course, happen though.
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Why do we need a "footballing man" to be CEO? We are a multimillion pound business. We need a business man to be CEO and a footballing man to be manager.
It wouldnt have taken a footballing genius to have made a better managerial appointment than McSweatybollox. Just someone with a modicum of common sense.
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Why do we need a "footballing man" to be CEO? We are a multimillion pound business. We need a business man to be CEO and a footballing man to be manager.
I don't think we do either, but we do need more footballing experience on the board to guide the CEO.
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Why do we need a "footballing man" to be CEO? We are a multimillion pound business. We need a business man to be CEO and a footballing man to be manager.
I don't think we do either, but we do need more footballing experience on the board to guide the CEO.
The CEO is supposed to be the person setting the strategy for the company. It'd be helpful if he has a certain level of knowledge himself.
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Doesn't "flame haired" mean "ginger haired"? He's more blond isn't he?
I'd say a definite ginger:
Warning, brings back bad memories (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/06/17/alex-mcleish-arrives-at-aston-villa-s-bodymoor-heath-photos-97319-28897487/)
Strawberry Blonde ?
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They're all moulding into one in my brain... Faulkner... McBeefBayonet... Grant... I want them all gone... Now!
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He's done an appalling job from a football perspective, but a decent job commercially. So maybe he should have a commercial role and no involvement in the football side. We need someone who understands the game.
selling H & V or our programmes perhaps
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In my opinion, Bradley Branning is just Lerner's yes man
Wasn't he the bloke who gave all those documents to Wikileaks?
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McLeish, Faulkner. Can you imagine how ugly the babies would be?
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As some have said, Faulkner to stick to commercial intrests. A N Other to look after playing matters. What about Ron Atkinson! he was a good wheeler dealer, just thinking about his signing of Dalian, Staunton,Richardson, Saunders, etc, Just what we needed after Dr Jo. as I say he is Quite savvy. or even Sir Graham who would be more diplomatic and able to give his football advice to Randy or even our new manager
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Its always stuck me as odd that we would be prepared to pay £2/3m per year for a pretty ordinary player yet wouldn't appear to offer to pay someone like David Dein the same sort of deal to run things.
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What colour hair you have is determined by the type of melanin you have, there are two types: eumelanin, which is dark brown or black, and pheomelanin, which is reddish yellow.
Red hair ranges from light strawberry blond shades to titian, Copper, and less commonly "true" red.
Red hair has the highest amounts of pheomelanin, around 67%, and usually low levels of eumelanin. At 1-2% of the population, it is the least common hair colour in the world. It is most prominently found in Scotland and Ireland. Scotland has the highest proportion of redheads; 13 percent of the population has red hair and approximately 40 percent carries the recessive redhead gene.
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Faulkner is Lerner’s “place man”, as Ian Ayre is to JW Henry at Liverpool. He is there to mind the shop.
The problem is that because he owes his job to lerner and would not be employed in a similar role elsewhere he will tell Lerner what he thinks that Lerner wants to hear. He is no independent voice.
The Board is “football lite”, there are no wise heads. There is no-one who can make an informed judgement on team performance, or transfer activity, in or out. I do not understand why Lerner does not appoint one or two non-exec Directors to offer that specific expertise.
Stoke City may not be everyone’s taste in football style. But their metamorphosis into a credible Pl outfit is a remarkable achievement and has been a collegiate effort with Pullis, Gerry Francis, Peter Reid and John Rudge all at various stages involved . That breadth of experience is missing at Villa Park. Now I don’t want to get bogged down with specific names, but having the likes of Graham Taylor, Houllier in a non-exec Board role to ask the right questions seems sensible to me.
My guess at the moment is that Lerner does not want to hear siren voices. I think that Mcleish has been charged with reducing the wage bill and keeping us in the PL - and that is it.
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Faulkner is Lerner’s “place man”, as Ian Ayre is to JW Henry at Liverpool. He is there to mind the shop.
The problem is that because he owes his job to lerner and would not be employed in a similar role elsewhere he will tell Lerner what he thinks that Lerner wants to hear. He is no independent voice.
The Board is “football lite”, there are no wise heads. There is no-one who can make an informed judgement on team performance, or transfer activity, in or out. I do not understand why Lerner does not appoint one or two non-exec Directors to offer that specific expertise.
Stoke City may not be everyone’s taste in football style. But their metamorphosis into a credible Pl outfit is a remarkable achievement and has been a collegiate effort with Pullis, Gerry Francis, Peter Reid and John Rudge all at various stages involved . That breadth of experience is missing at Villa Park. Now I don’t want to get bogged down with specific names, but having the likes of Graham Taylor, Houllier in a non-exec Board role to ask the right questions seems sensible to me.
My guess at the moment is that Lerner does not want to hear siren voices. I think that Mcleish has been charged with reducing the wage bill and keeping us in the PL - and that is it.
Remember reading an article earlier in the season saying that Lerner should have sought advice from Steve Stride or Graham Taylor when he took over and should have found a role for that type of figure at the club. Not sure that would have been too popular with Mr. O'Neill though!!
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I can't believe this thread hasn't been locked.